User talk:Audacity/2008-2018

= 2008 =

Hey!
Under article List of Backmasking the chorus of My Name Is played backwards is Eminem I'm Slim here is a source http://jeffmilner.com/backmasking.htm


 * Replied at User talk:71.156.46.94.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  05:13, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

warnwel
Thanks, Any other suggestions that you might have to improve it's usefulness? --.ιΙ  I n hu man 14  Ιι. ( talk 01:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


 * That would be feasible... But I would have to learn a lot more coding than I already know. I'm up for a good challenge. --.ιΙ  I n hu man 14  Ιι. ( talk 02:17, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey, thanks!
Thanks Audacity for the barnstar. I think you've done a great job with the portal. I'm pretty technically challenged but I think I can take on a small part and help keep at least the FAC section updated. Anything else I can do for FP let me know. Cricket02 03:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: CSS for Template:Hidden messages
Hi, I'll take a look at the CSS, clean it up as best I can and make it vertically minimal yet still readable :-) I'll try to get it done soon. Thanks! trisweb (Talk) 18:40, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Adminship
Congratulations, you are now an administrator - with pretty much unanimous support! If you haven't already, now is the time look through the Administrators' how-to guide and Administrators' reading list. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me, or at the Administrators' noticeboard. Warofdreams talk 12:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

You are now an admin ;-)
Congratulations, and good luck! <font color = "darkmagenta">« <font color = "darkmagenta">Snowolf <font color = "darkmagenta">How can I help?<font color = "darkmagenta">»  12:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Way to go! Congrats.  User:The Transhumanist 17:32, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar and the wolfs! (One of these days I'll put one of 'em on my user page ;-) ). One thing, is intentional that the barnstar is without your name, only the date? <font color = "darkmagenta">« <font color = "darkmagenta">Snowolf <font color = "darkmagenta">How can I help?<font color = "darkmagenta">»  00:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Congratulation's! You've earned the trust of the Wikipedia community, good work; and, for the future, good luck. Cheers, Dfrg.msc 09:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thirded ~ <font color="#ED9121">Anthøny 18:27, 23 May 2007 (UTC) Anthony is aware that thirded is not even a word


 * Congratulations. Here are what pass for words of wisdom from the puppy:


 * 1) Remember you will always protect the wrong version.
 * 2) Remember you must always follow the rules, except for when you ignore them. You will always pick the wrong one to do. (See #5)
 * 3) Remember to assume good faith and not bite. Remember that when you are applying these principles most diligently, you are probably dealing with a troll.
 * 4) Use the block ability sparingly. Enjoy the insults you receive when you do block.
 * 5) Remember when you make these errors, someone will be more than happy to point them out to you in dazzling clarity and descriptive terminology.
 * 6) and finally, Remember to contact me if you ever need assistance, and I will do what I am able.
 * KillerChihuahua ?!?


 * Just wanted to say congratulations of your new administration ship. One day, I hope to become one too. Agtaz 05:04, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Audacity
Since your username is Audacity, does that mean your created the program? Or do you just enjoy using it? --The Juggla 13:57, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey
I don't know you, and you don't know me, but I came around here because you seem to be avery established user (you even have a badge) and I thought you might be able to help me find an admin, only to find that you are an admin. I was looking for some help on the Zutara article. It's an article about a ship in a TV show. By definition almost it cannot pass WP:V and its impossible to discuss the matter in a way that is not in-universe. I nominated it for deletion, but it was turned into a redirect to an article about a character in the show. Anyway, I've read that admins can simply delete articles. So, that's basically what I was looking for Millancad 22:27, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Millancad 04:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

The Barnstar of Diligence
Thanks.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  00:08, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Backmasking
My apologies. I was unaware of how the authentication was done (Blithering newbie as I am). When I find a printed reference, I'll include it. Thanks for your diligence. Unidyne 01:26, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Smile
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> Hello Audacity/Archives, Hydrogen Iodide has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Village Pump: Signatures
I agree with the "instruction creep" reminder, even though I am frequently irritated by a few of the artful signatures that seem to shout "Look at me! look at me." (That is my problem, however, and not a reason to make a community rule.) I did want to know how we, as a community, can address the point or control it without making a rule; that is, unless the matter is left to persoanl choice, how can the "community" make its wish (to the extent that there is a consensus in the matter which is, I predict, unlikely) known without making a rule? Thank you for considering this question. While it follows from the approach you suggested at the Village Pump/Proposals, I don't feel its answer is relevant to anyone but me. If you disgaree, please feel free to copy this question and any response you may make, to the appropriate place in the discussion. Bielle 17:31, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. I have amended my comment on the Village Pump page, giving credit where due. Bielle 19:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

List of slang terms for poker hands
Thanks for the heads-up. I get this is what I get for explaining why I felt consensus was the way I felt it was. Cheers, Wily D 00:15, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

July 2007
Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. However, articles should not be moved, as you did to Colorado Springs, Colorado, without good reason. They need to have a name that is both accurate and intuitive. We have some guidelines in place to help with this. Generally, a page should only be moved to a new title if the current name doesn't follow these guidelines. Also, if a page move is being discussed, consensus needs to be reached before anybody moves the page. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. ''Note: Your opinion dosen't override Wikipedia policy. see WP:NC:CITY. WP:NC:CITY also overrides WP:MOS. Feel free to move the page back yourself, or another Admin can make the final decision. Description: "Moved Colorado Springs, Colorado to Colorado Springs."'' FastLizard4  ( Talk | Contribs ) 22:40, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * OK.  I'm a (little) less confused now.  I couldn't move the page back myself, anyway, because a redirect page still exists at Colorado Springs, Colorado.  Only an Admin could move it back.  By the way, how do you get the "AAAAAAAA" behind the Wikipedia symbol like that?  It's really cool!
 * -- FastLizard4 ( Talk | Contribs ) 06:10, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Oh, I clicked the link to Uncyclopedia in your userbox.  That is the only page I like on it!
 * -- FastLizard4 ( Talk | Contribs ) 06:34, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Poker Slang - 99
Hi Audacity,

I've come over the term German Virgin several times, as well on-line as in real play. This is why I chose to submit it. I should have included a link off the bat, sorry for that.

I looked a bit further and found some other references, the main ones are: http://www.betyouraces.com/24.html and the German version of wikipedia, funily enough...

I will not submit it again, to avoid clogging up the edit page. I'll leave it up to you to include the term or not.

Thanks, Nol 83.83.78.182 00:53, 16 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the explanation, Nol. I'm not sure if I personally agree with this, but the consensus seems to be that most sites such as the one you linked to are not reliable sources for terms in the list. Other language Wikipedias are also not considered reliable sources because of their user-edited nature.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  03:32, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Album Cover Fur
Note that there are images like Image:Jackiedeshannon.jpg which want to transclude the "Purpose" text to expand on a non-standard "Use". Your changes just broke this. Twice. Jheald 18:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry, that came out harder than I meant it to. But it is quite good to be able to use "Purpose" to expand on the standard use texts in various circumstances (including the case of a bespoke use tag).  Jheald 18:43, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Though, to be fair, there are only 4 images that I've rationaled that do this; so it might be easier just to decide what the template should do, and then re-write the rationales accordingly.  Jheald 18:49, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

The last few edits have broken the "Infobox" use, which is mission-critical. Can I suggest Template:Album cover fur/development for test versions? Jheald 19:05, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I still prefer my last version, with the user-expanded "purpose" added after the first two sentences, or after the boilerplate for a standard "use". What was your issue with this? Jheald 19:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Confused
How do you become an administrator, and what do they actually do?

Danielspencer91 14:07, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for explaining moderators to me and helping me out with my article and stuff. Danielspencer91 22:18, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

hint
Where can a person go to upload wavefiles or such for others to check out? Logognosis 23:23, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

My postings
While I would agree that with those postings I am promoting a website, it is a wiki project, and I believe directly relevant to the pages I have posted them on. I have not posted them on article pages, only talk pages, where people can discuss things and I don't see what's wrong with it. As I say, it is a relevant and worthwhile wiki project that obviously I cannot do by myself. It needs more people to help, and the most effective way to let people know about something they may be interested in, in my opinion is what I've done. DMajj 11:41, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Your deletion from Ambigram
You gave the edit summary: rv: page didn't even load for me

While there are probably a few reasons the link to that site probably doesn't belong there, that a site is temporarily down isn't one of them. -- Smjg 11:13, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I think it's permanent, as I'm now getting a 404 error from the site. But you're right that if the only issue was a temporary problem with the site I would have commented it out. I was implying that beyond the other reasons for not keeping it - specifically, the consensus that there are far too many ambigram sites to link to all, and that links shouldn't be added without discussion - the page was broken. I'm not sure if the anon editor whose link I deleted will ever read my summary, but I suppose I should have explained further just in case.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  16:48, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The site works for me as I try it now. That suggests it's an intermittent problem, and you happen to be catching it when it's down.  But if you catch it when it's up, you'll see that it actually isn't an ambigram site, but a commercial site whose logo just happens to be an ambigram.  Hence it was probably right to remove it - you just didn't give the right reason.  Still, it's something to consider next time you remove a link.... -- Smjg 17:10, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

MUSTARD
Thank you so much for the help on MUSTARD. would you be so kind as to protect the WikiProject Music/MUSTARD/Usage and the Sophomore pages? violetriga keeps changing them to his/her standards, and it's becoming quite frustrating. Bouncehoper 21:01, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again for the help! Bouncehoper 16:51, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

...hello there again. were you under the impression that the compromise made would involve the inclusion of sophomore in linked instances? that was my impression. i hate to keep bringing this crap up, cuz DAMN am i tired of it, but i just need to know if i'm in the wrong here or not. Bouncehoper 07:05, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * ok. that's a little bit different than what i thought. so why is violetriga still reverting things?
 * Bouncehoper 17:44, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * yeah you're right. thanks, dude. Bouncehoper 05:43, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Subcats
Subcats are crucial for readability, stop getting rid of them.

You nazi.

Plenty of reasons?
What "plenty of reasons?" That 78% of U.S. cities require dabbing? So what? A high percentage of films require dabbing too, that doesn't mean we dab all films. What other reasons? --Serge 01:20, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't get it, none of those "reasons" are unique to cities. They are just as true for any other article. I don't get it. --Serge 04:03, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, at least Scott admits that he thinks cities SHOULD be treated differently from how other articles are currently treated, and even goes so far as to say that many other articles should be treated the way he thinks cities should be treated. But most of the other defenders of the comma predab convention don't even seem to acknowledge, or perhaps even recognize, the significance of all this. So it's hard to agree to disagree with them. --Serge 05:52, 15 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Speaking of "defenders of the comma predab convention [who] don't even seem to acknowledge, or perhaps even recognize, the significance of all this", check out this entry. --Serge 07:02, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair use disputed for Image:Image:CocaColaHiddenPicture.jpg
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Featured!
Yay, we're now officially featured! :-) Thanks for all your help in getting us there! Best, Madder 19:12, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

ScienceApologist and my talk page
Hi Audacity,

You're familiar with SA's actions on my talk page. They certainly seemed like vandalism at the time (espc since the thing is not a personal attack on anyone), but now reading WP:VANDAL I'm not sure whether or not it meets the technical definition- mainly because technically SA could have really believed that was a personal attack. On the other hand, looking at the whole situation, maybe one would have to be quite a wikilawyer to say it wasn't vandalism. I'm being asked to offer him an apology for calling him a vandal. What do you think? —— Martinphi (Talk Ψ Contribs) 22:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It would be sincere if I'm wrong. I just don't know that I am.  Need second (neutral) opinion, which is why I came to you. —— Martinphi (Talk Ψ Contribs) 01:05, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks (: See this. —— Martinphi (Talk Ψ Contribs) 19:51, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Template lesson needs proofreading / copy-editing
Hi Audacity. A new lesson on templates has been written for the Virtual Classroom. It needs some advanced template users/designers to look at it before it goes live (that is, before I announce it all over the place). I was hoping you would take a look at it: User:The Transhumanist/Virtual classroom/Scartol, on Template use and design. I hope to see you there. Sincerely, User:The Transhumanist 04:51, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:HHW
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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Rain forwards.ogg
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AfD nomination of Political hip hop
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Classification of admins
Hi Audacity. Please consider adding your admin username to the growing list at Classification of admins. Best! -- Jreferee    t / c  23:05, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks (comment on Torah Codes)
Thanks for leaving a comment about my work.

Curious, was there a particular edit or addition that caught your attention?

riverguy42 (talk) 16:43, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Image:Zoso.svg
If you believe that this image is non-free, then see to it that it is removed from the Wikimedia Commons, otherwise, it is free-use across this project in any namespace. — <font color="007FFF">Save_Us _ 229 22:31, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Help?
I picked you out randomly. Can you point me to someone that has expertise in templates? I want to change a template parameter to a new parameter but preserving the old parameter. --Jeanenawhitney (talk) 02:03, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Informing past contributors of new TFD for Template:Maintained
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Bible code (important notes)
Audacity, FYI on the "codes" and primary sources as editors, please review this characterization of the WRR authors from Brendan's partner in MBBK, psychologist and MBBK co-author Maya Bar Hillel. Please consider Brendan's complaints of "bias" in the context of MBBK's own "bias", especially as Bar Hillel is on record as saying (from my memory) "it does not matter what evidence is presented, I do not and will not believe it". Editor Brendan McKay comes with a highly biased POV and a severe WP:COI, and the recent tags added to the article are already problematic. Please keep the article on your watchlist. WNDL42 (talk) 13:29, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:Month-3
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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Excessive content removal at Bible code
Audacity, appreciate your attention to the matter, but you are acting too quickly in response to a primary source's complaints.

(1) Please remember that the "other side" is not represented here. I am in the process of contacting through private e-mail some 'semi-disinterested' parties to comment on Brendan's complaints. His issues are important and deserve consideration, but my extensive (10 year) research history in the topic leads me to the considered opinion that they are mostly baseless.

(2) McKay's POV is highly biased and does significant "harm" to the WRR editors, if the article continues to be a coat rack for McKay, as it has been since McKay himself created the article. As McKay is the "attacker" of WRR authors, his POV needs very careful scrutiny. The most important BLP considerations here are protecting the WRR authors from additional damage, under the "do no harm" clause.

(3) Brendan's vague complaints about a "POV" he does not care for do not justify the extensive edits and content removal you performed. His specific complaint can be dealt with by changing three words. His further specific complaints (should he cite any) can be dealt with similarly.

I am well researched and well connected on the topic, I'd ask you allow me to lead this, if you will be so kind. WNDL42 (talk) 16:02, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi again Audacity... FYI, in the brief period of time before McKay posted his complaint, there were three separate anonymous IP edits, one at least ID'd as suspected vandalism. It's common for primary sources to be a bit sneaky in this regard, McKay (creator of the article) can be expected to be a bit frustrated about losing "control" of the article, so we should be aware that this may possibly not be as entirely "above board" as it appears...fyi see these edits, which appear to be representative of the MBBK POV.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wndl42 (talk • contribs) 16:43, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for dropping me a note on my talk page...


 * For now, let me say here that I don't agree that the section removed (which had it's basis in McKay's own original POV version) was "full of POV" except to the extent that it balanced the MBBK POV with the WRR POV. When I found the article, there was a strongly WP:UNDUE weighting in favor of the MBBK POV, and further...what was there somewhat mischaracterized both MBBK and WRR. It was obvious to me that what I found reflected and carried the bias of McKay's original entry, gave undue weight to criticisms of Drosnin, strangely made no mention of Satinover, (which is the only treatment that approaches "scholarly", IMO. In summary, the article I found was merely carrying forward the original MBBK bias to the extent that it was a WP:COATRACK for the MBBK POV. I believe that my first round of edits corrected some serious distortions, such as this:


 * "The McKay paper did not go so far as to accuse Witzum and Rips of falsifying their experiment, instead it argues that the ELS experiment is extraordinarily sensitive to very small changes in the spellings of appellations. This fact, when combined with available wiggle room, was exploited by McKay et al. to duplicate the Genesis result in a Hebrew translation of War and Peace."


 * The above two sentences are a nicely weasle-worded, but utterly false statement. De-weasled, the statement above says "MBBK didn't say WRR cheated, it merely showed how their result was false by demonstrating the exploitation technique they used to achieve their false positives", which is, politely, horse mess. MBBK was an entirely unsubtle accusation against WRR of cheating, pure and simple. The evidence for this is Bar Hillel's "Maddness in the method", which I hope you've read carefully.


 * BTW, I like some of USER:Jimbo Wales edits to the article, like this, and I think that whatever changes are needed are at that level of subtlety. WNDL42 (talk) 15:16, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * What do you think about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wndl42 (talk • contribs) 22:32, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:Verylongtalk
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fastest cars by acceleration
I have removed the Hennessy Viper amongst others from this list as I dont think they are suitable as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automotive_superlatives - as the editor who put the Hennessy in there, I thought it would be polite if I informed you of my edit. I am not doubting the Hennessy's ability to get from 0-60 in the stated time, I just dont think it is a true production car as per wikipedias guidelines, however I am interested in your opinion in this matter.Sennen goroshi (talk) 14:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Help With Ubiquity Records Page
Hey not sure how to talk to people but im trying to launch the follownig page i have ben working on. Here is the link to the article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Y2klol/Ubiquity_Records

thanks User:y2klol —Preceding comment was added at 16:26, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:CocaColaHiddenPicture.jpg)
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New here
Hi! I saw your name on the welcoming committee pages. Ive been reading all about the style and substance of how to edit, the mechanics of it. And I think I've got that down pat. My thing is I don't know where to start! There's just so much stuff to do I don't know what would be best. Any advice? I don't want to jump feet first into something I shouldn;t be doing and make a fool out of myself. Thanks! Skubanky (talk) 22:17, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

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Hatfield Visual Arts College
The Hatfield Visual Arts College article has been vandalised a lot by unregistered users. I've picked an administrator randomly - you - to semi-protect it against unregistered users for the next two months. Thanks DinosaursLoveExistence (talk) 12:43, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

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Clean-up on prop 4!
You know, Audacity, you spend too much time staring at Axolotl eggs and not enough time mopping. ;) Nice to finally meet you in your glorious online janitor persona.  I can't wait for my RfA so I can be an internet janitor, too.  Until this post comes back to haunt me at said RfA, at which point the universe will explode with irony, but not before scoring me about 15 opposes.  I do feel like an idiot that I had to ask what your username was and didn't just search for your IRL name when you mentioned you were a wikipedian.  I did search for people transcluding , or in category  , but you used a nice, convienent bullet point to prevent either of those awesome versions of my let-me-find-him-by-looking-for-admins-from-st-johns idea from working.  My only other idea was to go through all 1,800 admins with Mr. Randi, a nun with a ruler, and a dowser, and I wasn't sure whether that would score any useful hits or just fun ones.  Anyway, I hope this post was funny and didn't just make me sound like an asshole. See you around school. &hArr; &int;Æ S   dt  @ 00:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

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That's Weird
I have an audio recording software named Audacity and you are named after it. ADGTHFan (talk) 18:52, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Happy birthday
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Protecting a page
Could you protect the Bedlingtonshire Community High School from non-logged-in users as it's getting a bit of vandalism. Thanks a lot. DinosaursLoveExistence (talk) 11:20, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: WikiCleaner error
I meant to take the brackets out completely. Sorry about that. Btw, has nothing to do with the tool, which is not automated in any way. Any mistake is mine :) --User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 04:51, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hey, thanks Audacity for the barnstar. It has been my sincere pleasure to help out in this very small way. Cheers. ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 01:09, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Recall
Your user page states you are open to recall. What is the procedure you use? Thanks! Hipocrite (talk) 16:28, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

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Page protection
Could you protect the page Lincoln Christ's Hospital School against edits by non-registered users, as it has seen large chunks of material go missing on a regular basis? DinosaursLoveExistence (talk) 09:57, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, 60% of the page was deleted by an anonymous user. I think it really is important. DinosaursLoveExistence (talk)

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 * Maintenance tag removal is an automatic revert with Template:Uw-tdel1 warning. I gave you friendly advice. You really need to read WP:OWN. --Morenooso (talk) 06:16, 3 May 2010 (UTC)--Morenooso (talk) 06:16, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Let's stay on your page as I'm busy. You're trying my patience. As this admin put it in his [usertalk DIFF, the "signal to noise ratio" you are raising is insignificant. Read WP:OWN. --[[User:Morenooso|Morenooso]] (talk) 16:24, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I've read it, and I don't think I should stop advocating a useful change because of it. I posted an invitation for a third opinion at Talk:Backmasking.  Λυδ α cιτγ  04:21, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

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I have a question for an audio editing expert. Do you personally know a lot about the science of waves, or do you just deal with the program Audacity? Geeky Randy (talk) 03:19, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll do that.  Geeky Randy (talk) 05:05, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

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=2012=

MSU Interview
Dear Audacity,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:
 * Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
 * Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
 * All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
 * All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
 * The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 04:31, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

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New Rational Skepticism WikiProject member asking for look at Theosophy entry
Since you are an active participant in the Rational Skepticism WikiProject, would you mind looking over the Wikipedia entry on Theosophy to see if you find any concerns?

I've been ordered to fix the page so that it accords with my understanding of the NPOV policy. I'm happy to do that but I have a lot of work at my job.

Now I've been told that I must make the changes by April 30th or the NPOV tag will be removed. I simply can't learn how to use Wikipedia as a newcomer, become familiar with all the sources, and make the edits if I must do it all by April 30th.

Would you look over the Theosophy page? Also, can you recommend anything? Thanks much,Factseducado (talk) 15:31, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
辻畠 (talk) 14:11, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Cleaning Talk: La Luz del Mundo
Hi Audacity, thanks for the cleanup of LLDM talk page, that talk page has grown incredibly large (and is still growing). Is there an easy way to solve this problem, like by archiving it or through some other method?

Also, I was hoping that my new section "Proposed Revisions" be followed by its respective subsections: controversial content, membership numbers,"The LDM" vs "LLDM". I feel it would be easier to keep track if they're presented as subsections the way you did ithere. Let me know what you think. Best, 06:02, 14 November 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RidjalA (talk • contribs)


 * Hi Ridjal. Of course: it's your comment, and I've switched to subsections. As for the talk page, I too was thinking about archiving it due to its length, but it looks to me like the early discussions might still be relevant to the current dispute. What do you think?  Λυδ α cιτγ  06:30, 14 November 2012 (UTC)


 * True. Maybe archiving might not be such a good idea after all. I can see how it might become a problem if users have to keep resorting to archives for resolutions. I guess I can live with how the page is now, but I'll get back to you should the scroll bar turn into a dot. Thanks again. RidjalA (talk) 07:10, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the article La Luz del Mundo
Hi, I do hope that you have taken an interest in editing the LLDM article. We do need more editors for it even if they don't know Spanish. Please continue to frequent the talk page and the article with your edits and input. Thank you. Fordx12 (talk) 15:06, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Personal attacks
Hi, Since you saw his post in the Luz Del Mundo talk page I think I'll ask you this question.

I am starting to feel very uncomforatable with the personal attacks RobertRosen keeps throwing at me. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard&diff=522992379&oldid=522992245 That link is to the dispute resolution where he has edited his original s the Teahouse, but seeing as he has attacked an editor from there who helped me out, I'd rather not drag others into this in case he does the same to them. What should I do? I feel like he is trying to chase me away from editing Wikipedia. Fordx12 (talk) 15:32, 14 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I've just asked RobertRosen to please stay civil.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  17:22, 14 November 2012 (UTC)


 * That didn't seem to help, sadly. And RidjalA's  and RobertRosen seems to be spreading these accusations to other parties . I admit that I made a mistake by only editing LLDM. I can't account for Ajaxfiore's, or any other editor, habits and account creation. However, is one not allowed to correct that mistake? Now RidjalA seems to be saying that I am here on a mission of some sort of "militancy" and pretty much discounting any opinion I may have. You can have an IP address check on me if you want. As far as I know, no one else in my household has created a Wikipedia account, and I mostly log in at home. I checked up on Ajaxfiore, and the Spanish Wiki version of the article. He seems to have done a lot of edits in computer program type articles and other religious articles there in the past http://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Especial:Contribuciones/Ajaxfiore&dir=prev&target=Ajaxfiore I have no edits in Spanish wiki because it does not interest me http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Contribuciones/Fordx12 I just want the attacks to stop especially when they are voiced to other parties. Fordx12 (talk) 21:02, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Email
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Impressive
... or not so impressive. ;) — <u style="color:#000000;">Francophonie&#38;Androphilie (<u style="color:#000000;">Je vous invite à me parler ) 21:44, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice, fooled me. I think I got it now.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  22:43, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Athelete

 * I'm sorry about that. I didn't realise that. I'm afraid I'm not too good with Greek etymology. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 08:27, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

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User talk:Albeit27"
In case you don’t notice - I left a decidedly unreserved thanks on my talk for you. I am eager and have found a project! Paul Lir Alexander Just an FYI.Albeit27 (talk) 22:59, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
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Just an FYI re: your advice
Hello Audacity, no need to respond. I just wanted to leave a quick note to let you know I’ve thoroughly studied Help:Minor edit and was going to go back and correct all of my “minor” mistakes (wow those m’s now stick out like a sore thumb!). Upon further reflection, because there are so many, I’m afraid I may do more harm than good. I now realize how do it correctly. Again, I appreciate your help because the quicker I can look like a decent editor the better! I’m now moving on to more closely study MOS! I’ve ordered an excellent book about the article Paul Lir Alexander (previously mentioned) because I’m interested in the subject and there are few and sketchy resources online. I can hardly wait to get to it! My best.Albeit27 (talk) 23:44, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

=2013=

Request for assistance on La Luz del Mundo
Last month you settled a dispute on La Luz del Mundo with this edit. However, the matter has been brought up again by RidjalA. The editor insists on introducing an unnecessary quote to bypass wiki policies, and because the "Pro-LLDM lobby especially hates this one". Furthermore the editor appears to be instigating an edit war since he looks "forward to another edit war". Also please have a look at the two new sections in the talk page Talk:La_Luz_del_Mundo and Talk:La_Luz_del_Mundo. Thanks Ajaxfiore (talk) 17:42, 11 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Ajaxfiore. My intent with that edit was to provide a version both sides would be happy with. It's unfortunate that that has not turned out to be true, but at the same time I can understand RidjalA's feeling that the quote in question should be included. So after looking at the current discussion I'm afraid I don't really have an opinion on the matter of whether or not it needs to be included - other than to remind all parties to assume good faith wherever possible.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  04:17, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you! Ajaxfiore (talk) 23:43, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Request for comment on Talk:La Luz del Mundo
Hi there! I cordially invite you to participate in the request for comment on Talk:La Luz del Mundo. Should you wish to respond to the invitation, your contribution to this discussion will be very much appreciated! Ajaxfiore (talk) 23:44, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar
Hi,

I realize that you were paying me a compliment. At the same time, I looked at your userpage and found some things with which I staunchly disagree. So let me start with a question: do you believe that the damage done by affirmative action policies (putatively, "reverse discrimination") is, overall, lesser or greater in real terms (outcomes so far) than that done by racism? -- UseTheCommandLine (talk) 05:18, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Lesser, certainly, but what of it?  Λυδ α  cιτγ  05:20, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Is there a solution for remedying the historical effects of racism that noone would complain about? -- UseTheCommandLine (talk) 05:23, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * or rather, that someone would not perceive as damaging to their interests? -- UseTheCommandLine (talk) 05:23, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm not sure; however, what I think is bad about affirmative action is that it may not be in anybody's interest. Its marginal effect is to put worse students in better schools, and while that's clearly bad for other students who would have gotten into those schools, it doesn't seem likely to be particularly good for the worse students either, since they won't be able to keep up with the work. I understand that diversity is valuable but I think in the educational realm you really have to judge people by their minds not their skin colors. Maybe I'm being too idealistic, or maybe I'm just rationalizing a defense of my own interests - it's hard to say exactly what causes one political belief to feel right to us.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  05:33, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I do appreciate that bit of doubt that I see creeping in there. I don't think that "worse students" is an immutable category, and that being placed in a more robust academic environment can bring out the best in a student, even one who does not come in at parity with some or most of their peers. I also don't think that the marginal benefit of being accepted to a "better" school for someone with the benefit of substantial historical privilege is as much as it's made out to be. I'm certainly not saying people should be accepted to schools solely on the basis of their skin colors, but I feel that the "reverse discrimination" term is not useful to the debate over what constitutes an appropriate level of credence to historical factors and cultural norms. In my view, use of the term is often used to squelch discussion of what appropriate weight should be given to the fact that person A displays X amount of academic maturation given a background of deprivation, versus person B who displays Y amount given a background of less deprivation. Please note that I am not making assertions about you specifically. -- UseTheCommandLine (talk) 05:46, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I think what I'm getting at can be summed up in a quote by Paulo Freire:
 * "Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral."
 * Happy to continue discussion here, but I think a venue like irc would be better for this. If you happen to be there and wish to discuss this further, let me know. otherwise I will need to try to squelch my unfortunate tendency to want to save the world by bedtime.
 * Thanks again for the barnstar. -- UseTheCommandLine (talk) 05:50, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Your input is requested
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Question
May I please ask "when" you moved to Beijing, and if it's permanent? Supersaiyen312 (talk) 21:41, 1 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Certainly! I came here for the first time in February of 2012, and since then I've been back and forth between Beijing, Taiwan and the US, with my stays in Beijing adding up to a little over a year in total. I'm still not sure about whether it's permanent or not - China has a lot of great things going for it, but it's also a hard place to live long-term.


 * I take it you're interested in Japan? I'm just starting to learn Japanese now, and I went to Tokyo for the first time last month. Also a fascinating country!  Λυδ α  cιτγ  07:20, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replying Audacity, that made me feel better. Yes, I like a lot of countries in the world actually, the tops including Japan, Iceland, New Zealand, Canada, etc. I'm just curious why you chose Beijing though, not Hong Kong, Macau, or Taiwan? I've never set foot outside the United States, but Taiwan seems like the more innocent place to me if I had to choose. However, I'm no expert on these countries so it doesn't really matter. Supersaiyen312 (talk) 13:27, 2 July 2014 (UTC)


 * My primary goal was learning Chinese, and I had Chinese international student friends in college, so mainland China was the logical place. In retrospect it was a good decision, since people's English is better in places like Taiwan and Hong Kong, and you don't get as many chances to learn Chinese. But China's also a very exciting place to be at the moment - you can see a lot of fascinating changes happening in front of your eyes.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  13:46, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, I understand. And my bad about the edit on the article, I feel stupid now, lol. Supersaiyen312 (talk) 13:54, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries! You should see some of my old edits.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  13:57, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you

 * Thank you!  Λυδ α  cιτγ  12:46, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

delete my pics
hello, I uploaded a few pics to get a link to explain a few things to ppl i knw online but there are some pic like the reference for swimming club that can be and is being misinterpreted so I would like to delete the pics under my uploads! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tekksavvy (talk • contribs) 04:17, 11 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't see any file uploads by your account - can you link me to the pictures in question? Cheers,  Λυδ α  cιτγ  01:17, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

appreciate if youd check your email address! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tekksavvy (talk • contribs) 10:51, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Yo
Hey Dan, how's it going? HarbisonSchwartzkopf (talk) 19:26, 14 October 2014 (UTC)HarbisonSchwartzkopf


 * Good. Since Wikipedia is not a social network, we should continue this conversation on Facebook, but it's nice to see one of your edits pop up on my watchlist.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  02:37, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Aw HarbisonSchwartzkopf (talk) 15:39, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

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I saw you removed images from "Paul Finch" with per WP:NFCC. One of the images you removed has been re-added with. I'm not really sure what to do here. I've been trying to discuss things in good faith with this editor on their user talk page, the article's talk page and at Teahouse/Questions, but have not been having very much luck so far. I've tried informing them of various Wikipedia policies and guidelines that are relevant to the edits being made, but it seems as those explanations are falling upon deaf ears. I believe this editor is not intentionally trying to be disruptive, but that is the direction things appear to be heading. I don't want to come off as biting a newbie, but I beginning to feel that a stronger approach might be warranted. Any suggestions on how best to proceed without creating any more drama than necessary? Thank you in advance - Marchjuly (talk) 11:50, 24 November 2014 (UTC)


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A newbie created Vision for learning using wikimedia, a sweet, naive version of Wikimedia + WP:Welcome. I've welcomed them, and I'd like to make the article's deletion (under WP:A10) as un-bitey as possible. You seem to be a gentle-mouthed admin, so I wanted to ask for your help. Proceed as you see fit. FourViolas (talk) 13:48, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Never mind, it's been deleted and it's up to the author to take it personally or not. Have a nice day! FourViolas (talk) 14:14, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Now that I've bothered you, could I have an expert opinion on my behavior at Revolution 60 on February 4th? I'm pretty sure DivineAlpha and I were within our WP:3RRNO rights, but I'd like your thoughts. FourViolas (talk) 14:19, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, sorry for the late reply. Looks like clear-cut vandalism to me, in which case there's no problem with your reverts. Cheers,  Λυδ α  cιτγ  17:48, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

You are a nice admin who's worked in Music
So perhaps you could work this out without too much biting or bruising. Basically, it looks like a group of academics (led by one in particular?) has been editing constructively, and also writing a big OR paper ([high-quality WP:NOTESSAY stuff) about charter schools and socioeconomic factors in education. (these are live, contentious issues in US education-policy circles, teachers' unions, etc.)

I'm asking you to use magic admin wisdom to 1) make the unencyclopedic content go away, while 2) making sure the authors have a copy saved somewhere and 3) managing to avoid making them hate Wikipedia, and maybe even 4) recruiting an expert or two.

Thanks a lot! FourViolas (talk) 03:26, 7 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi, sorry for the late reply. From a Google search, it looks to me like a pretty clear neologism, so I don't think there's a place for this article here. Which means that WP:AFD is the way it'll have to go... but doing that while avoiding #3 is tough.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  11:24, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

In response to Four Viola's and Audacity's notice about deleting the Learning-Disadvantage Gap article, please consider the following points
The Learning-Disadvantage Gap report at first inspection may incorrectly seem like a document of original concepts, especially by someone not immersed in the convoluted world of educational standardized high-stakes testing systems in use today, and the growing movement in opposition to it, but in fact it is not. The anti-standardized high-stakes testing movement is not my own. I am but a pawn in the movement. The Learning-Disadvantage Gap is a collection of original articles and studies that I have accumulated over the past five and a half years from reliable separately published articles not yet compiled in a format easily accessible to the public. Not even the Learning-Disadvantage Gap words and concept is original, as I have borrowed from references as well.

To clear up any possible misunderstanding, the Gap is compiled and written exclusively by myself with technical assistance by my staff. The name, Music Teacher’s Club, is just that, a name, and this is my very first proposed entry to Wikipedia. I am the owner of a music store, Johnny Thompson Music.com, and chair of Parents and Students for Music and Arts aka AllArtsAllKids.org.

Having studied Wikipedia policies I believe the Gap avoids cherry-picking of reference articles in a negative sense and synthesis of combining separate ideas to reach any conclusions. Actually, the report does not reach conclusions other that what is from any of the two hundred plus references. All two hundred plus references are interconnected by one goal: educational equality for all.

I do not pick references that agree with my personal view, rather, I learn first from each and every reference before I report on it. I am the student and messenger, not the teacher. That said, the report may be the first of its kind that combines original works of others that I am aware of.

This is a neutral report which includes reporting on current educational inequities and non-compliances of statutory and education laws by the United States Department of Education.

The collection of two hundred plus references to the Gap consists of works by U.S. Department of Education, K-12 teachers, principals, and district superintendents, university professors and studies, parents and students, civil rights groups, court cases, constitutional attorneys, statistical groups, arts advocacy groups, and more. Just one reference alone includes a list of five hundred plus university professors who as a group are petitioning the U.S. Department of Education specifically to stop test-focused reforms particularly NCLB (No Child Left Behind).

Although written by a potpourri of writers, each with their own expressed views, the goal of each and every reference, and within the stop high-stakes testing movement in general, is equal learning-opportunities for the disadvantaged and all students in America, without regard to their socio-economic and academic standings.

The Learning-Disadvantage Gap, and in fact big Gov’s standardized high-stakes testing, is not generally known by the American public. The national mainstream media has yet to cover the movement and to spark a national debate. That said, there is a substantial and growing grassroots movement, starting on the East Coast, that has tens of thousands of students “opting out” of March and April NCLB, Common Core, and other state test-based no-excuses high-stakes yearly testing. I will mention at this point that my group, Parents and Students for Music and Arts, has a twitter account and am proud to report that the largest independent anti-high-stakes testing group of teachers follows us on Twitter.

I consider this Wikipedia report, an honor should it be accepted, a very much needed public service article. It is my plan to continue upgrading quite often. Currently, we are doing so almost daily. I believe it to be a wonderful venue for educating people on the subject with limited time to invest. Also I believe it is so important that parents of economic and academic disadvantaged kids have a source to learn from that offers hope. The Gap welcomes contributions as well as other points of view from Wikipedia’s very large at-large contributing public editors. We are looking forward to having an active Wikipedia article.

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 * Hi Mr. Thompson. Thanks for your explanation. However, I think your article may still fall afoul of Wikipedia policy (No original research), specifically insofar as it is "analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources." Would you mind taking a look at that policy and seeing if you still think your article is suitable for this encyclopedia?  Λυδ α  cιτγ  09:43, 25 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you Audacity, for your response. To answer your question, please refer to our reply to FourViolas. I believe I have answered the question you've just asked. Thank you sincerely for your input on this matter.


 * Delete but merge some sources and information into Achievement gap in the United States (as original red-flag-waver). Unfortunately, "[compiled from] reliable separately published articles not yet compiled in a format easily accessible to the public" is a description of high-quality WP:SYNTHESIS, which is firmly verboten. This report is great and useful, but publishing great original research is not what Wikipedia is for.


 * Nonetheless, I think the article has a lot of usefully collected information which could improve Achievement gap. I suggest Mr. Thompson looks at that article, which has already benefitted from the contributions of many clear thinkers, and adds info from his report where it would be nonredundant and WP:DUE. FourViolas (talk) 15:08, 25 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep - Hello Four Violas. Thank you for your kind words and advice on your last talk and articles for deletion pages updates.  The sticking point is the topic of originality, so let’s see if we can get to the bottom of that.  Wikipedia (WP) title of “No original research: OR is used to refer to material for which no reliable, published sources exist.”  I agree with that because all of my references are indeed published previously by reliable sources listed in our earlier communication to you.  That said, I respectfully ask you to be very specific and quote WP published policies whereby you reached your conclusion to delete.


 * As stated in my first response to you, “The Learning-Disadvantage Gap is a collection of original articles and studies that I have accumulated over the past five and a half years from reliable separately published articles not yet compiled in a format easily accessible to the public. Not even the Learning-Disadvantage Gap words and concept is original, as I have borrowed from references as well.”  In your response you quoted me, “unfortunately, ‘[compiled from] reliable separately published articles not yet compiled in a format easily accessible to the public’ is a description of high-quality WP:SYNTHESIS, which is firmly verboten.”  And then you continued that, “this report is great and useful, but publishing great original research is not what Wikipedia is for.”  To this, however, I respond that WP publicly states that “synthesis of published material serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources.”  My follow-up to that is that all carefully researched references supply their own conclusions and in numerous cases they are direct quotes.


 * Apparently I was not as clear as I could have been with my quote. I was somewhat clumsily trying to say in the rush to finish my reply that all the articles have been previously published in a format accessible to anyone interested.  But to my knowledge – and I may be mistaken about this – I may or may not be the first person to read and compile these original works referencing each and every one on WP.  Furthermore, to quote WP again, “to demonstrate that you are not adding OR, you must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article, and directly support the material being presented.”  I suggest that any and all synthesis that is accomplished fully complies with WP policies that we also touched upon in our first direct communication to you on 24 March 2015.


 * Thank you for your continued discourse. In all due respect, we strongly believe this article merits a stand-alone WP entry and thereby we must ask you to consider our points and that you defend or alter your stance.


 * JCharlesThompson (talk) 05:22, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep - Hello again Λυδαcιτγ and Four Violas,


 * I’d like to start off by saying that I have not always expressed myself clearly and I have given you and Four Violas the wrong impression at times. Once again I want to apologize for that.  Music is my profession, not self expression through writing.  I always think that people understand what I mean just because I do, but, I will in the future be more careful.


 * Having once again reviewed WP policies, I want to reinforce that these are also my policies in both letter and intent. These policies include those of OR, synthesis, neutrality, cherry picking, and verifiability of authoritative references with author notability.  Some references may already have reached their own conclusions.  My job is to give voice only to their experiences and conclusions regardless of my personal opinion.  I have edited and removed throughout my article whatever I think is questionable.  I continue to include references from the Department of Education taking in to account their differing points of view and stated policies.


 * If you find another suspect entry please let me know. I have made so many recent changes that my references have become out of place, and I need more time to reposition, add more, and to continue upgrading in general.  In addition, your editors will always have the opportunity to revise as WP allows.  Lastly, I am likely going to change the title to “Academic-Opportunity Discrimination,” the reasons for which can be elaborated more in future correspondence.


 * Thank you for taking the time to engage this important article.
 * JCharlesThompson (talk) 02:54, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Responding to Nakon's deletion of the article "Learning-Disadvantage Gap"


 * (Hello Nakon) I consider your deletion of the article “The Learning-Disadvantage Gap” a hasty and inappropriate decision as it was based on a single quote that was taken out of context from a 25 March 2015 talk page response in regards to the proposed deletion of this legitimate and informative article.


 * Please note in my quote, “The Learning-Disadvantage Gap is a collection of original articles,” of which you focused on, I was referring not to myself but rather to the authors of the two hundred verifiable reference articles.


 * The seventh paragraph of the same communication went on to address specifically these two hundred references as shown here. Here’s the quote: “[t]he collection of two hundred plus references to the Gap consists of works by the U.S. Department of Education, K-12 teachers, principals, and district superintendents, university professors, and studies, parents and students, civil rights groups, court cases, constitutional attorneys, statistical groups, arts advocacy groups, and more. Just one reference alone includes a list of five hundred university professors who as a group are petitioning the U.S. Department of Education…”


 * The rest of my quote, “reliable separately published articles not yet compiled in a format easily accessible to the public,” explains that while these independently authored articles are currently and verifiably published and accessible to the public through various online and traditional sources, they are now compiled as a quick-read and convenient WP article.


 * I'm not making an appealing your decision here, asking only for future editor/administrator fairness and to be judged solely on how well the article itself abides by WP written policies. For all that has been said, I appreciate the opportunity to rewrite the article in our user-sandbox which will hopefully establish itself as a legitimate standalone WP article in the future.  Thank you, as well as to Audacity, Four Violas, and others.


 * JCharlesThompson (talk) 02:05, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

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Oxaloacetic acid
I reverted your change on the above topic, as acids are not med that way. It would have to have been hydrogen oxaloacetate. The oxaloacetate would be used for salts or esters.JSR (talk) 18:50, 30 March 2017 (UTC)a


 * OK, thanks. I wasn't 100% sure if the change was correct, but oxaloacetate redirects to oxaloacetic acid, which I assumed meant they were the same. Do you have a good understanding of their relationship, as there should be something about that in the article?  Λυδ α  cιτγ  22:53, 30 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Although on second thought, if you look at a diagram of the citric acid cycle, the molecule labeled "oxaloacetate" looks the same to me. Thoughts?  Λυδ  α  cιτγ  22:57, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * And that is an oxaloacetate anion, a salt, not oxaloacetate acid.JSR (talk) 23:19, 30 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Got it. I just bolded the word "oxaloacetate", since that seems to be the commonly used name in biochem. Thanks!  Λυδ α  cιτγ  01:11, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

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Thank you message regarding the contribution about the MUSIC article
Thank you for your contribution about the article, Backmasking, featured portal, Portal:Music. I also impressed that the very well organised user page - Useful pages,Interesting articles and etc. - It might be a good wiki edit model for the user page. :) Goodtiming8871 (talk) 04:25, 16 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Appreciate the compliments :)  Λυδ α  cιτγ  16:41, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – August 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2017). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Anarchyte • GeneralizationsAreBad • Cullen328 (first RfA to reach WP:300)
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Cprompt • Rockpocket • Rambo's Revenge • Animum • TexasAndroid • Chuck SMITH • MikeLynch • Crazytales • Ad Orientem

Guideline and policy news
 * Following a series of discussions around new pages patrol, the WMF is helping implement a controlled autoconfirmed article creation trial as a research experiment, similar to the one proposed in 2011. You can learn more about the research plan at meta:Research:Autoconfirmed article creation trial. The exact start date of the experiment has yet to be determined.
 * A new speedy deletion criterion, regarding articles created as a result undisclosed paid editing, is currently being discussed (permalink).
 * An RfC (permalink) is currently open that proposes expanding WP:G13 to include all drafts, even if they weren't submitted through Articles for Creation.

Technical news
 * LoginNotify should soon be deployed to the English Wikipedia. This will notify users when there are suspicious login attempts on their account.
 * The new version of XTools is nearing an official release. This suite of tools includes administrator statistics, an improved edit counter, among other tools that may benefit administrators. You can report issues on Phabricator and provide general feedback at mw:Talk:XTools.

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2017). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Nakon • Scott
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Sverdrup • Thespian • Elockid • James086 • Ffirehorse • Celestianpower • Boing! said Zebedee

Guideline and policy news
 * ACTRIAL, a research experiment that restricts article creation to autoconfirmed users, will begin on September 7. It will run for six months. You can learn more about the research specifics at meta:Research:Autoconfirmed article creation trial, while Wikipedia talk:Autoconfirmed article creation trial is probably the best venue for general discussion.
 * Following an RfC, WP:G13 speedy deletion criterion now applies to any page in the draftspace that has not been edited in six months. There is a bot-generated report, updated daily, to help identify potentially qualifying drafts that have not been submitted through articles for creation.

Technical news
 * You will now get a notification when someone tries to log in to your account and fails. If they try from a device that has logged into your account before, you will be notified after five failed attempts. You can also set in your preferences to get an email when someone logs in to your account from a new device or IP address, which may be encouraged for admins and accounts with sensitive permissions.
 * Syntax highlighting is now available as a beta feature (more info). This may assist administrators and template editors when dealing with intricate syntax of high-risk templates and system messages.
 * In your notification preferences, you can now block specific users from pinging you. This functionality will soon be available for Special:EmailUser as well.

Arbitration
 * Applications for CheckUser and Oversight are being accepted by the Arbitration Committee until September 12. Community discussion of the candidates will begin on September 18.

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Administrators' newsletter – October 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2017). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Boing! said Zebedee • Ansh666 • Ad Orientem
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Tonywalton • AmiDaniel • Silence • BanyanTree • Magioladitis • Vanamonde93 • Mr.Z-man • Jdavidb • Jakec • Ram-Man • Yelyos • Kurt Shaped Box

Guideline and policy news
 * Following a successful proposal to create it, a new user right called "edit filter helper" is now assignable and revocable by administrators. The right allows non-administrators to view the details of private edit filters, but not to edit them.
 * Following a discussion about mass-application of ECP and how the need for logging and other details of an evolving consensus may have been missed by some administrators, a rough guide to extended confirmed protection has been written. This information page describes how the extended-confirmed aspects of the protection policy are currently being applied by administrators.

Technical news
 * You can now search for IP ranges at Special:Contributions. Some log pages and Special:DeletedContributions are not yet supported. Wildcards (e.g. 192.168.0.*) are also not supported, but the popular contribsrange gadget will continue to work.

Arbitration
 * Community consultation on the 2017 candidates for CheckUser and Oversight has concluded. The Arbitration Committee will appoint successful candidates by October 11.
 * A request for comment is open regarding the structure, rules, and procedures of the December 2017 Arbitration Committee election, and how to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.

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Administrators' newsletter – November 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2017). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Longhair • Megalibrarygirl • TonyBallioni • Vanamonde93
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Allen3 • Eluchil404 • Arthur Rubin • Bencherlite

Technical news
 * The Wikimedia Foundation's Anti-Harassment Tools team is creating an "Interaction Timeline" tool that intends to assist administrators in resolving user conduct disputes. Feedback on the concept may be posted on the talk page.
 * A new function is now available to edit filter managers that will make it easier to look for multiple strings containing spoofed text.

Arbitration
 * Eligible editors will be invited to submit candidate statements for the 2017 Arbitration Committee Elections starting on November 12 until November 21. Voting will begin on November 27 and last until December 10.
 * Following a request for comment,, and  will serve as the Electoral Commission for the 2017 ArbCom Elections.

Obituaries
 * The Wikipedia community has recently learned that (William Allen Peckham) passed away on December 30, 2016, the same day as . Allen began editing in 2005 and became an administrator that same year.

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2017). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Joe Roe
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg JzG
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Ericorbit • Perceval • Thingg • Tristanb • Violetriga

Guideline and policy news
 * Following a request for comment, a new section has been added to the username policy which disallows usernames containing emoji, emoticons or otherwise "decorative" usernames, and usernames that use any non-language symbols. Administrators should discuss issues related to these types of usernames before blocking.

Technical news
 * Wikimedians are now invited to vote on the proposals in the 2017 Community Wishlist Survey on Meta Wiki until 10 December 2017. In particular, there is a section of the survey regarding new tools for administrators and for anti-harassment.
 * A new function is available to edit filter managers which can be used to store matches from regular expressions.

Arbitration
 * Voting in the 2017 Arbitration Committee elections is open until Sunday 23:59, 10 December 2017 (UTC). There are 12 candidates running for 8 vacant seats.

Miscellaneous
 * Over the last few months, several users have reported backlogs that require administrator attention at WP:ANI, with the most common backlogs showing up on WP:SPI, WP:AIV and WP:RFPP. It is requested that all administrators take some time during this month to help clear backlogs wherever possible. It should be noted that AIV reports are not always valid; however, they still need to be cleared, which may include needing to remind users on what qualifies as vandalism.
 * The Wikimedia Foundation Community health initiative is conducting a survey for English Wikipedia contributors on their experience and satisfaction level with Administrator’s Noticeboard/Incidents. This survey will be integral to gathering information about how this noticeboard works (i.e. which problems it deals with well and which problems it struggles with). If you would like to take this survey, please sign up on this page, and a link for the survey will be emailed to you via Special:EmailUser.

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ArbCom 2017 election voter message
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Administrators' newsletter – January 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2017). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Muboshgu
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Anetode • Laser brain • Worm That Turned
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg None

Bureaucrat changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Worm That Turned

Guideline and policy news
 * A request for comment is in progress to determine whether the administrator policy should be amended to require disclosure of paid editing activity at WP:RFA and to prohibit the use of administrative tools as part of paid editing activity, with certain exceptions.

Technical news
 * The 2017 Community Wishlist Survey results have been posted. The Community Tech team will investigate and address the top ten results.
 * The Anti-Harassment Tools team is inviting comments on new blocking tools and improvements to existing blocking tools for development in early 2018. Feedback can be left on the discussion page or by email.

Arbitration
 * Following the results of the 2017 election, the following editors have been (re)appointed to the Arbitration Committee:, , , , , , ,.

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Administrators' newsletter – February 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2018). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg None
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Blurpeace • Dana boomer • Deltabeignet • Denelson83 • Grandiose • Salvidrim! • Ymblanter

Guideline and policy news
 * An RfC has closed with a consensus that candidates at WP:RFA must disclose whether they have ever edited for pay and that administrators may never use administrative tools as part of any paid editing activity, except when they are acting as a Wikipedian-in-Residence or when the payment is made by the Wikimedia Foundation or an affiliate of the WMF.
 * Editors responding to threats of harm can now contact the Wikimedia Foundation's emergency address by using Special:EmailUser/Emergency. If you don't have email enabled on Wikipedia, directly contacting the emergency address using your own email client remains an option.

Technical news
 * A tag will now be automatically applied to edits that blank a page, turn a page into a redirect, remove/replace almost all content in a page, undo an edit, or rollback an edit. These edits were previously denoted solely by automatic edit summaries.

Arbitration
 * The Arbitration Committee has enacted a change to the discretionary sanctions procedure which requires administrators to add a standardized editnotice when placing page restrictions. Editors cannot be sanctioned for violations of page restrictions if this editnotice was not in place at the time of the violation.

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Administrators' newsletter – March 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2018). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Lourdes†
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg AngelOfSadness • Bhadani • Chris 73 • Coren • Friday • Midom • Mike V
 * † Lourdes has requested that her admin rights be temporarily removed, pending her return from travel.

Guideline and policy news
 * The autoconfirmed article creation trial (ACTRIAL) is scheduled to end on 14 March 2018. The results of the research collected can be read on Meta Wiki.
 * Community ban discussions must now stay open for at least 24 hours prior to being closed.
 * A change to the administrator inactivity policy has been proposed. Under the proposal, if an administrator has not used their admin tools for a period of five years and is subsequently desysopped for inactivity, the administrator would have to file a new RfA in order to regain the tools.
 * A change to the banning policy has been proposed which would specify conditions under which a repeat sockmaster may be considered de facto banned, reducing the need to start a community ban discussion for these users.

Technical news
 * CheckUsers are now able to view private data such as IP addresses from the edit filter log, e.g. when the filter prevents a user from creating an account. Previously, this information was unavailable to CheckUsers because access to it could not be logged.
 * The edit filter has a new feature  that edit filter managers may use to check if one or more strings are all contained in another given string.

Miscellaneous
 * Following the 2018 Steward elections, the following users are our new stewards:, , , ,.

Obituaries
 * Bhadani (Gangadhar Bhadani) passed away on 8 February 2018. Bhadani joined Wikipedia in March 2005 and became an administrator in September 2005. While he was active, Bhadani was regarded as one of the most prolific Wikipedians from India.

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Administrators' newsletter – April 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2018). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg 331dot • Cordless Larry • ClueBot NG
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Gogo Dodo • Pb30 • Sebastiankessel • Seicer • SoLando

Guideline and policy news
 * Administrators who have been desysopped due to inactivity are now required to have performed at least one (logged) administrative action in the past 5 years in order to qualify for a resysop without going through a new RfA.
 * Editors who have been found to have engaged in sockpuppetry on at least two occasions after an initial indefinite block, for whatever reason, are now automatically considered banned by the community without the need to start a ban discussion.
 * The notability guideline for organizations and companies has been substantially rewritten following the closure of this request for comment. Among the changes, the guideline more clearly defines the sourcing requirements needed for organizations and companies to be considered notable.
 * The six-month autoconfirmed article creation trial (ACTRIAL) ended on 14 March 2018. The post-trial research report has been published. A request for comment is now underway to determine whether the restrictions from ACTRIAL should be implemented permanently.

Technical news
 * There will soon be a calendar widget at Special:Block, making it easier to set expiries for a specific date and time.

Arbitration
 * The Arbitration Committee is considering a change to the discretionary sanctions procedures which would require an editor to appeal a sanction to the community at WP:AE or WP:AN prior to appealing directly to the Arbitration Committee at WP:ARCA.

Miscellaneous
 * A discussion has closed which concluded that administrators are not required to enable email, though many editors suggested doing so as a matter of best practice.
 * The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team has released the Interaction Timeline. This shows a chronologic history for two users on pages where they have both made edits, which may be helpful in identifying sockpuppetry and investigating editing disputes.

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Nomination of Zhang Yong (politician) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Zhang Yong (politician) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Zhang Yong (politician) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

Administrators' newsletter – May 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2018). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg None
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Chochopk • Coffee • Gryffindor • Jimp • Knowledge Seeker • Lankiveil • Peridon • Rjd0060

Guideline and policy news
 * The ability to create articles directly in mainspace is now indefinitely restricted to autoconfirmed users.
 * A proposal is being discussed which would create a new "event coordinator" right that would allow users to temporarily add the "confirmed" flag to new user accounts and to create many new user accounts without being hindered by a rate limit.

Technical news
 * AbuseFilter has received numerous improvements, including an OOUI overhaul, syntax highlighting, ability to search existing filters, and a few new functions. In particular, the search feature can be used to ensure there aren't existing filters for what you need, and the new  function can be used when checking multiple namespaces. One major upcoming change is the ability to see which filters are the slowest. This information is currently only available to those with access to Logstash.
 * When blocking anonymous users, a cookie will be applied that reloads the block if the user changes their IP. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. This currently only occurs when hard-blocking accounts.
 * The block notice shown on mobile will soon be more informative and point users to a help page on how to request an unblock, just as it currently does on desktop.
 * There will soon be a calendar widget at Special:Block, making it easier to set expiries for a specific date and time.

Arbitration
 * The Arbitration Committee is seeking additional clerks to help with the arbitration process.

Obituaries
 * (Craig Franklin) passed away in mid-April. Lankiveil joined Wikipedia on 12 August 2004 and became an administrator on 31 August 2008. During his time with the Wikimedia community, Lankiveil served as an oversighter for the English Wikipedia and as president of Wikimedia Australia.

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11 years of adminship
Wishing Audacity a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman ( talk ) 01:29, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2018). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg None
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Al Ameer son • AliveFreeHappy • Cenarium • Lupo • MichaelBillington

Guideline and policy news
 * Following a successful request for comment, administrators are now able to add and remove editors to the "event coordinator" group. Users in the event coordinator group have the ability to temporarily add the "confirmed" flag to new user accounts and to create many new user accounts without being hindered by a rate limit. Users will no longer need to be in the "account creator" group if they are in the event coordinator group.
 * Following an AN discussion, all pages with content related to blockchain and cryptocurrencies, broadly construed, are now under indefinite general sanctions.

Technical news
 * IP-based cookie blocks should be deployed to English Wikipedia in June. This will cause the block of a logged-out user to be reloaded if they change IPs. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. For the time being, it only affects users of the desktop interface.
 * The Wikimedia Foundation's Anti-Harassment Tools team will build granular types of blocks in 2018 (e.g. a block from uploading or editing specific pages, categories, or namespaces, as opposed to a full-site block). Feedback on the concept may be left at the talk page.
 * There is now a checkbox on Special:ListUsers to let you see only users in temporary user groups.
 * It is now easier for blocked mobile users to see why they were blocked.

Arbitration
 * A recent technical issue with the Arbitration Committee's spam filter inadvertently caused all messages sent to the committee through Wikipedia (i.e. Special:EmailUser/Arbitration Committee) to be discarded. If you attempted to send an email to the Arbitration Committee via Wikipedia between May 16 and May 31, your message was not received and you are encouraged to resend it. Messages sent outside of these dates or directly to the Arbitration Committee email address were not affected by this issue.

Miscellaneous
 * In early May, an unusually high level of failed login attempts was observed. The WMF has stated that this was an "external effort to gain unauthorized access to random accounts". Under Wikipedia policy, administrators are required to have strong passwords. To further reinforce security, administrators should also consider enabling two-factor authentication. A committed identity can be used to verify that you are the true account owner in the event that your account is compromised and/or you are unable to log in.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:59, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Indeed!
This edit has just appeared on my watchlist. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Audacity&diff=next&oldid=843992072&diffmode=source ~ ToBeFree (talk) 12:42, 7 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Haha, excellent! Nice to see you here.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  02:48, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Ingush
The Northeast Caucasians are both a language and ethnicity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6000:60A0:B200:498F:966E:7EF0:32F2 (talk) 05:09, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm not an expert, but Wikipedia has an article for People of the Caucasus (Caucasian) and for Northeast Caucasian languages, but not for People of the Northeast Caucasus. So in the context of the sentence - "The Ingush are a Caucasian native ethnic group" - it doesn't make sense to replace the link to People of the Caucasus with Northeast Caucasian languages. However, you'll notice that Northeast Caucasian languages is linked in the sentence immediately after.  Λυδ α  cιτγ  06:29, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Hell Awaits backwards.ogg
Thanks for uploading File:Hell Awaits backwards.ogg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 17:26, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:I Remember Larry backwards.ogg
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Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 17:51, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Nature Trail To Hell backwards.ogg
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Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 18:09, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Precious
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:12, 29 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank YOU! This really put a smile on my face. Feels great to be appreciated :) And I know I've seen you around before. So thank you for your editing and for taking the time to do things like this. Cheers!  Λυδ α  cιτγ  13:19, 29 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank YOU! - Look, - the smile is on my face as well! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:22, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2018). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Pbsouthwood • TheSandDoctor
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Gogo Dodo
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Andrevan • Doug • EVula • KaisaL • Tony Fox • WilyD

Bureaucrat changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Andrevan • EVula

Guideline and policy news
 * An RfC about the deletion of drafts closed with a consensus to change the wording of WP:NMFD. Specifically, a draft that has been repeatedly resubmitted and declined at AfC without any substantial improvement may be deleted at MfD if consensus determines that it is unlikely to ever meet the requirements for mainspace and it otherwise meets one of the reasons for deletion outlined in the deletion policy.
 * A request for comment closed with a consensus that the promising draft template cannot be used to indefinitely prevent a WP:G13 speedy deletion nomination.

Technical news
 * Starting on July 9, the WMF Security team, Trust & Safety, and the broader technical community will be seeking input on an upcoming change that will restrict editing of site-wide JavaScript and CSS to a new technical administrators user group. Bureaucrats and stewards will be able to grant this right per a community-defined process. The intention is to reduce the number of accounts who can edit frontend code to those who actually need to, which in turn lessens the risk of malicious code being added that compromises the security and privacy of everyone who accesses Wikipedia. For more information, please review the FAQ.
 * Syntax highlighting has been graduated from a Beta feature on the English Wikipedia. To enable this feature, click the highlighter icon (Codemirror-icon.png) in your editing toolbar (or under the hamburger menu in the 2017 wikitext editor). This feature can help prevent you from making mistakes when editing complex templates.
 * IP-based cookie blocks should be deployed to English Wikipedia in July (previously scheduled for June). This will cause the block of a logged-out user to be reloaded if they change IPs. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. For the time being, it only affects users of the desktop interface.

Miscellaneous
 * Currently around 20% of admins have enabled two-factor authentication, up from 17% a year ago. If you haven't already enabled it, please consider doing so. Regardless if you use 2FA, please practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:22, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

your page
Hi! I just came across your personal page, and some information there struck me as inappropriate. It seems to me that referring to other editors by name and mentioning their relationships while they don't mention any personal details on their pages is a form of outing. I am quite surprised that you as administrator did not notice or care. I hope it is just an oversight. Retimuko (talk) 18:53, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * You're probably right. Cheers,  Λυδ α  cιτγ  02:16, 12 July 2018 (UTC)