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Yeah sure. I'll just leave you some comments on the list. I'm assuming you would like to take it to FLC, and even if you aren't that is pretty much the rules for all list articles, so it should pass all those criteria. Okay, the lead is the overview. The first paragraph should be just about what the championship is. Look at my recent FLs for more information; they can be located at this link: User:Wrestlinglover/Awards and Accomplishments. Statesment that you can not source should be removed. Reigns that you can not source should be removed. The external links section lists something you are already using. Just remove it.-- Will C  04:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Lead comments
 * "The Early World Heavyweight Wrestling Championship is a professional wrestling championship created in 1905 to identify the best catch as catch can professional wrestler in the world." I don't like early, doesn't read well unless that is the championship's official name. It would be best to rewrite it to this so that it passes numerous guidelines IMO: "The first recognized World Heavyweight Wrestling Championship in professional wrestling was created on May 4, 1905 to identify the best professional wrestler in the world."-- Will C  02:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "The first recognized World Heavyweight Champion was Georg Hackenschmidt who officially won the championship on May 4, 1905 by defeating Tom Jenkins in New York City, New York,[1] the Championship remained active for the next 51 years with the last recognized reign beginning on November 9, 1956." A run on sentence. Change it to: "Georg Hackenschmidt was the first recognized World Heavyweight Wrestling Champion by defeating Tom Jenkins in New York City, New York on May 4, 1905. The second sentence should actually be rewritten and placed before the first champion sentence. "The championship lasted for a total of 51 years with the last recognized reign ending on [blank]."-- Will C  02:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "Several of the championship reigns are also recognized by the National Wrestling Alliance (NWA) under the NWA World Heavyweight Championships lineage." If true source with the title's official history. Also link lineage to the list of champions article.-- Will C  02:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "The World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) current 3 World Heavyweight Championships WWE Championship, World Heavyweight Championship and ECW Championship lineage can also be traced back to the Early World Heavyweight Championship." Source for this? And change to "The WWE Championship's, World Heavyweight Championship's and ECW Championship's lineages, three of the professional wrestling promotion World Wrestling Entertainment' (WWE) current World Heavyweight Championships, can also be traced back to the first World Heavyweight Wrestling Championship." or "The current 3 World Heavyweight Championships owned a copyrighted by the professional wrestling promotion World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) (WWE Championship, World Heavyweight Championship and ECW Championship) lineages can also be traced back to the first World Heavyweight Wrestling Championship."-- Will C  02:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "The WWE Championship's origin can be traced back to the NWA Championship after an incident in which the World Wide Wrestling Federation (WWWF) at the time left the NWA after refusing the recognize Lou Thesz as NWA Champion after he beat Buddy Rogers in a one fall match —The NWA World Title matches usually followed a best-of-three fall format — Vincent J. McMahon, the WWWF's owner created the WWE Championship and awarded Roger's the belt proclaiming he won it in a apocrypha tournament in Brazil. The WWE's World Heavyweight Championship was subsequently spun off the WWE Championship." Your own ideas or do you have a source for all of this? You make no mention of TNA's Title in this which went through a simular situation with the TNA World Heavyweight Championship being created after the NWA World Heavyweight Championship was removed. It should be included as well, NPOV remember?-- Will C  02:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "Most of the well-recognized World Heavyweight Championships in professional wrestling such as the WWE Championship, WCW World Heavyweight Championship, ECW Championship, and NWA World Heavyweight Championship are derived from this version. The NWA World Heavyweight Championship traces its history back to this World Heavyweight Championship while the top titles of the three largest promotions in North America during the 1990s (World Wrestling Entertainment, the now defunct World Championship Wrestling, and Extreme Championship Wrestling) spun off from the NWA World Heavyweight Championship's lineage.

The new version of the World Heavyweight Championship, can also be traced back to this version as it is the successor to both the WCW World Heavyweight Championship and the NWA World Heavyweight Championship." Source for all of this? If no written reliable sources for any of the above comments can be found, then they should be removed, per wikipedia guidelines.-- Will C  02:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * To remain out of universe, a description of professional wrestling should be included. I prefer the one I created which is used in the lead of the TNA X Division Championship. There is also one that is more in depth which I use in lists. It is located in all of the lists which have passed FLC and ones I have expanded which will be nominated one day. Also a overview of champions should be listed along with any important information. My FLs will give more info.-- Will C  02:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Table comments
 * The table which I added is the proper table used in lists which were agreed upon at WT:PW. So you should include it. A key table should also be inserted so people not farmilar with wrestling championships can understand what each section means and ones who are active in the wrestling world who do not understand do not face this problem. Go to List of CZW World Heavyweight Champions and follow the format of that list to convert this one into it.-- Will C  02:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The notes section is only for important things that effected the championship majorly. Not match results, just things that changed its history major majorly. New champions are a given, but not how the new champion won it.-- Will C  02:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * A list of combined reigns table should be included with a footnotes section below it. Follow the format of my lists to get an idea at how to do this. The See also section must go directly below the footnotes section per the wikipedia MoS.-- Will C  02:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Sources
 * Wrestling Titles.com has yet to be proven reliable, but could possibly be usable here. You may have to prove how it is reliable.-- Will C  02:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Wrestling Information Archive is unreliable. They get their information from wikipedia. Wikipedia can not source itself. Remove it please. Try Solie and see if they have anything.-- Will C  02:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Online World of Wrestling has yet to be proven reliable. Their fact checking is in question. To use it you must prove it reliable, which is a hard thing to do. Removing it would be the best thing to do and replacing any results used from them with ones from WrestleView, PW Torch, or Slam Sports.-- Will C  02:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ref 5 has no publisher. It is the wrestlingmuseum.com, which must be proven reliable unless that is the professional wrestling museum's official website, which makes it a primary source which is fine.-- Will C  02:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 411Mania has yet to be proven to have reliable fact checking (yet to be proven reliable).-- Will C  02:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This source:, I'm unsure about. It is a risk.-- Will C  02:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I've made alot of lists recently and learned the process quickly. The first list is usually the hardest. But after around 5, it gets alot easier. After I finished the PWG Champions article, it got very simple.-- Will C  14:27, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, I will. I'll help out if I see anything wrong, if it is small I'll be bold but if it is something bigger I'll ask first. I've seen that article alot and always wished it was expanded but had no urge to do it myself. So I'm glad someone is doing something now.-- Will C  14:32, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

It is a google image, which makes it questionable. I would take it to WT:PW or the reliable source noticeboard to discuss if it is usable first.-- Will C  15:26, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright.-- Will C  21:09, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

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If no reliable source can be found that, that reign happened. Then it should be removed.-- Will C  22:36, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * State when he was first seen with the belt. And in the date won cloumn, place "N/A". The key that should be included, will tell what it means.-- Will C  23:03, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

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Re: Elijah Burke
I restored the information, which said something along the lines of "The Wrestling Observer repoted that Burke signed a contract with TNA". The WO is a reliable source, and this is an accepted wording for something like this. And quite frankly, wording it like that is a lot better than the ips who are going to add randomly that "he signed with TNA". Not to mention the fact that Twitter isn't a reliable source, and as you said he could have been "playing dumb". ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 07:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
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