User talk:AussieLegend/Archive 24

Favor!
May I request that as a favor to me, you pull back from PR10000's talk page for a bit? I know that we're aware of some problems the user is having, but I think the user is caught in a feedback loop, and every mistake they make becomes louder and louder which probably just inspires more mistakes. I think if we chill and give them some breathing room it might help. I'd sure be frazzled in this situation. And for some perspective, I had a kid yelling at me and calling for my death a few days ago after his block expired. At Abecedare's suggestion, I gave the kid a pass and he quieted down. It wasn't satisfying, but I believe it helped. I think we should focus on this user's editing, not their talk page. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:35, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I really don't understand this guy. He's deleted other posts from his talk page, but left mine. He's even specifically asked me questions, but apparently doesn't want me to answer them. This is absolute crap. He used creation of his talk archive as his request for unblock claiming that I'd created the page for my own personal use and when I explained why the page had been created he deleted the post. Then I had to explain it again in response to Ritchie333, and yet he's still making the same bullshit claim about why the page was created, even though he left the previous explanation on his talk page. If he really wanted to move on, as he claims, he's stop bringing up the archive page and blaming others, and take responsibility for his own actions. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 17:07, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * And then there was this, specifically I decided to add two resources to Cristina Lago and all of a sudden AussieLegend is there when he has never edited a single article related to an actress on Rede Globo. I just received a notification that he thanked me for that edit. There's a touch of irony in I also notice he is following me around. In his post about his talk page archive he said created by another editor Aussielegend for their exclusive purpose since no one would ever know it existed unless they spotted it on that particular editors contribution history. Isn't checking my contribution history following me around? -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 17:20, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

TRR
Gigget wants me to place a elimination table on the ridonculous race page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crazybob2014 (talk • contribs) 21:38, 4 September 2015‎ (UTC)
 * That's irrelvant. All content added to Wikipedia must be verifiable. None of the content that you added was sourced and given that the season hasn't aired yet, it is obviously not corrrect. Regardless, Giggett said "add in the character teams and ditch the relationship column and no flags yet let's keep it with only text for now", but you posted exactly what she posted on your talkl page. You didn't make any of the changes that she suggested. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 21:44, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Zoie Palmer article locked down
The same vandal, User:Correctfact, vandalized the article again with the same edits. User:Bearcat has put an Admin-only protection level on it. This will not stop User:Correctfact from wanting to distort biographical information about Zoie Palmer and he will return to do it all over again when the protection expires. What has really happened now, however, is that every editor has been punished for the actions of one jerk. Pyxis Solitary (talk) 09:28, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I've left a comment on Correctfact's talk page as well as at Talk:Zoie Palmer. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 10:13, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, I only put it under protection for one week, as an immediate measure to stop the behaviour — but I actually meant to select a shorter period, such as 3 or 12 hours, but accidentally selected one week from the drop-down menu by mistake. I'm fully willing to drop it back down to semi now, as I've already given Correctfact the warning that they can be editblocked if their actions continue. Bearcat (talk) 17:34, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Bad finger! Bad bad bad. :-) Thank you, both, for dealing with this editor's non-stop problematic behavior. Pyxis Solitary (talk) 22:38, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Might want to take a look at this Comment
It would seem that User:Correctfact has taken umbrage at your reverts and decided to report the incident here. --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 12:34, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. As you're aware, I've now made comment at BLPN. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 13:23, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok. I've reported him for a possible legal threat made on that thread. --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 13:28, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

TV Colours
Looks like we have an editor who doesn't understand not to revert to non-contrasting colours on Saturday Night Live (season 41). I've posted in both the edit summaries and their talk page - should I report the IP user to WP:ANI? Alex &#124; The &#124; Whovian 11:25, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The IP has not been adequately warned. I've reverted and left another warning, as the IP has violated 3RR. If he/she does it again a 3RR report should be raised at WP:AN3. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 11:41, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * They've been blocked. I ain't got time for this stuff. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:37, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Image
Hello. Could you please tell me how to change an image? Is that photo taken by yourself in Selena Gomez page? Thanks! (Bistymings (talk) 01:41, 7 September 2015 (UTC))
 * What do you mean by "change"? No, that image wasn't taken by me. According to the file information, it was taken by, who added the image to the article. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 04:27, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh. I thought you were the one who added it. (Bistymings (talk) 01:26, 8 September 2015 (UTC))

Big Brother
Hey AL, you edit Big Brother articles, right? Can you tell me (because really I'm scared to look for myself)—does Big Brother 15 (UK) represent the typical level of detail in a Big Brother article? If so, I'm frightened, because that is an obnoxious amount of information for such a meaningless television series. An editor is sore at me because I converted some problematic tables (before and after) at an Indian version of Big Brother. Anyhow, was curious. It seems to me that the level of detail in the sample article above far exceeds what we would provide in coverage for any fiction-based series and I'd be surprised if these table-laden articles are WP:ACCESSIBILITY compliant. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 09:48, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I try not to edit Big Brother articles. Like a lot of these types of programs, there is far too much detail and you should be frightened. They should all be moved to a separate namespace titled "aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhh!!!!!!!!". -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 10:14, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Episode lists
Hey, Aussie. As I caught the invalid colours on Crossbones (TV series) as you changed the raw code to Episode table, I noticed something in your edit, and just had to ask out of curiousity - what's the difference between Episode list and ? Alex &#124; The &#124; Whovian 08:47, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * User:AussieLegend/Infoboxes/EL is a general purpose template that I use to clean up episode lists. It needs to be substed, but I forgot to type "subst". It's fixed now. Thanks for bringing the mistake to my attention. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 10:10, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * That makes sense. I didn't get what the point of it was until you said it was meant to be substituted. Spacing, yeah? Just tested it out myself, and it seems to work rather well enough. Alex &#124; The &#124; Whovian  12:20, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Informal poll
Hi Aussie how are ya mate? Keeping up with being a Legend or Keeping up with the Kardashians?

LOL. Anyway, quick question:

What would you call coke, lemonade, solo, etc. in general (ie. any sweet flavoured drink that is carbonated)?

Ping me! Cheers,  Lux ure Σ  11:56, 12 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Soft drinks, obviously. Americans call them sodas. Despite what the Collins dictionary says, "lolly water" refers to non-carbonated drinks. i.e. cordial. I've asked about this at WP:AWNB. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 12:53, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Jessie Episodes
One use of "Kids" won't hurt. If It does, than every article that has "kids" should be changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.83.60.230 (talk) 14:56, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * This is an encyclopaedia and requires a formal tone. If "kids" is used elsewhere then yes, it should be changed unless there are legitimate reasons to use it, such as in episode titles. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 15:00, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Triple J edits
Hey mate, you assisted earlier this year with sustained edits to the Triple J hottest 100 article for 2014. Another new account has resumed the activity. Bernie bernbaum (talk) 20:09, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Terra Nova (TV series)
Hello, You reverted the changes I made to correct grammar/mechanics errors in the article Terra Nova (TV series) and thereby reinstated those errors, so I undid that reversion. The changes I made are appropriate in any regional version of the English language.Sparknotes is a great resource for those who need to either consult or brush up on the rules of grammar/mechanics. - Cheers, Froid (talk) 16:42, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Binbir Gece
Hello, sorry for the inconvenience. But. This is correct?. I delete that section, but a user, I generate an edit war and ended up winning it. Even this report in Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring‎ and did nothing. So really I do not know, so I wondered if it was right to leave that section of international premieres.-- Philip J Fry   (talk)  16:58, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The section should not be there. I have tagged it appropriately and will delete it myself if sources are not provided soon. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 17:15, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help, but I already explain the user who insists that this section should be, but does not understand and do not really know what to do.-- Philip J Fry   (talk)  01:00, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

List of Lost Girl episodes Series overview template
An anon editor made unnecessary and bad edits to the template. I reversed everything to the way it was before he changed it. However, it is not displaying properly. I cannot figure out why the template did not return to Season 5 being split into two parts, each with a different Originally aired date. The color for the first half is color1 = #1d5b3e, and the second half is color2 = #014945. The template that existed before is there in source code -- but it's not displaying it. I'm over my head here. Pyxis Solitary (talk) 11:06, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 * This was my fault. The series overview template recently had a big clean up that removed old parameters (split5, as per this example), and updated them to newer names (extra5, as per this example). It's been fixed. Alex &#124; The &#124; Whovian  11:26, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Counting Cars
I understand why you sighed. But you know, my request, and your citation, corrected an incorrect running time, and isn't accuracy what we both want? --Tenebrae (talk) 18:22, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * As already explained, running times for individual episodes of a TV series can vary considerably over a series run so accuracy is not possible. The parameter is only meant to be a guide. A minute here or there is irrelevant. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 18:29, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

I need to be called an idiot
Would you look at this idiocy I pulled? I frickin' didn't check the edit summaries that I pasted into this article again. What the fuck is wrong with me?! Copyvios! I mean, I caught them when I actually looked at the table to check for references and crap, but geez... Anyhow, I need you to sling some harsh words and even a few personal attacks. It's the only thing that's going to make me feel better. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:55, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see you are a masochist. Well, I am a sadist so, your work is perfection old chap. Keep it up. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 20:11, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * GAAAAH! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:22, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Avoidance of spoilers
If you get a minute and the spirit moves, go take a look at the discussion of a section on influences relating to the show Mr. Robot. There's a squabble between two editors about how the influences should be described and what are reliable sources that's the major issue, but there's also the secondary issue that one editor is determined to omit the major plot point that one character is actually a delusion on the part of another. His logic is that it's mentioned in the episode description, but shouldn't be mentioned elsewhere so viewers who haven't seen the episode won't be spoiled. The result is vague and somewhat tortured language. You and I both know WP:SPOILER applies to the entire article, but he won't be dissuaded. Sigh. Anyway, if you feel like commenting, it might help. --Drmargi (talk) 01:58, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Point Break (1991 film)
Because, obviously, it wasn't a redirect at the time. That page is being moved back and forth a ton. Ignoring for now — Preceding unsigned comment added by JesseRafe (talk • contribs) 15:42, 5 October 2015‎ (UTC)
 * Well no, it wasn't obvious that it was a redirect at the time. I clicked on the link and it took me to Point Break, not Point Break (1991 film), which is why I asked the question. Maybe add "article has been moved" to your edit summary next time. Cheers. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 15:50, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Tables
Hey Table-meister, am I correct in thinking that the tables at List of Bollywood films of 2015 are not in line with WP:ACCESSIBILITY? In particular the vertical text seems problematic. This formatting seems somewhat pervasive, as I also find it List of American films of 2015. And I gotta say, every time someone comes by to add or remove something, they muck up the table and then someone (often me) has to fix it. But not everything's about me... At some point TheRedPenOfDoom converted the tables at List of Bollywood films of 2016 to a more normal format. I thought that was a good idea. Thoughts? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:35, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * No, List of Bollywood films of 2015 is not compliant. List of Bollywood films of 2016 doesn't comply with MOS:DTT, but it's an improvement. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 17:12, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

WP:TVCAST
I was going to do the cast lists per that page you mentioned on SVU's 17th season page, however I do have one question. Melinda Warner was main cast; would she be recurring cast or guest cast as of now since her role is now small? Callmemirela 🍁  &#123;Talk&#125;   &#9809;  01:37, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * She is not being credited as main cast so that would suggest she be listed as recurring. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 05:03, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Sheldon
The link does support the claim!!! There's a full text available with etymolgy of the name! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.183.178.148 (talk) 08:59, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Unless I need new glasses, the source as provided doesn't support the claim. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 11:33, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Re: Dog with a Blog/List of Dog with a Blog episodes
Sigh. People will never understand, will they? Haha! Look at Amazon or iTunes to determine if it's one or two or more episodes. Some episodes are two episodes put together, I agree (e.g., the finale of Digimon Tamers aired as an hour special when it first aired, but it was two separate episodes), but they are still two separate episodes (e.g., Confrontation Part 1, Confrontation Part 2). However, in many cases, such as with Dog with a Blog, the longer episodes are actually one episode because they were packaged as such, and you can tell because Amazon and iTunes have a length of about 45 minutes for them, whereas normal episodes are 22-25 minutes—you can also tell because there's no Part 1 or Part 2 (or more).

Production codes essentially mean nothing and are just for internal purposes mostly. Most shows don't even air in production order when they first air, though some do if it's essential to understanding the plot (e.g., Henry Danger and Degrassi). Amaury (talk) 13:55, 7 October 2015 (UTC)


 * I hate production codes. They cause more problems than they are worth. Terra Nova had 13 production codes, but only 12 episodes. The premiere was aired as a single episode, with a single title (Genesis) with one set of credits and a seamless transition from the first part to the second. The finale was aired as two episodes back to back with two different titles, but those production codes caused no end of trouble. (see here and here) I generally advocate exclusion of production codes unless there is a good reason to include them, which there usuallly isn't. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 14:14, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed, but they are useful at the same time, haha—for some, anyway, myself included. However, that's why we go by episode length to determine if it's one, two, or more episodes. Amaury (talk) 14:18, 7 October 2015 (UTC)


 * So let's get rid of the frickin' production codes already. Most of what is labeled as a production code is not even a production code. I know Aussie's heard this story before, but I've seen photos of production boards at Nickelodeon, for instance, and each cartoon segment had a unique production code, 101, 102, 203, 315 etc. These numbers are ostensibly the real production codes because they were presumably used internally for their financial purposes. Making sure segment 102 is on budget, making sure that the person who did the voice in 203 gets paid. Assigning money for the big CG sequence in 404. But when Nick releases an episode, they might pull two segments (let's say production codes 208 and 202), then pair them into a completed episode and call that 201. An 11 minute series might have 52 internal production codes, but only 26 episode episode codes. If a company wants to market a love-themed Valentine's Day episode, they might pull two carts that were produced months apart and pair them as episode 105. The episode codes don't always tell you when something was actually produced, and if they can't do that, what value do they have? So we can tell when they air slightly out of order? Who cares? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:31, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

,, I will work on something this weekend in my sandbox and get your opinions. PS: I hope you weren't annoyed at me, CB. ;) Amaury (talk) 01:50, 8 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Whoa, just saw this,, no I absolutely was not annoyed at you! I just got out my pitchfork to chase the production codes out of town! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:43, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Most of the time, production codes seem to match an episode's actual numbering, even if they're not aired in that order. Henry Danger airs in production order because of the type of show it is and story it has (like Degrassi), but it's an example. Either way, I agree that they're not really necessary.


 * Cyphoidbomb,, I realize it's very basic and only one thing was changed, but please see this. In all honesty, I don't think Directed by and Written by are needed, either, but I left them in, though I did try to switch them around to no avail since TV shows show the writer first. Feel free to leave any feedback on the talk page, as basic a change as it is, haha! , you're also welcome to leave feedback as I know you definitely also work in the TV articles area. Maybe we can all come up with some idea at noticeably changing it. Amaury (talk) 19:34, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

MOS:IDENTITY is being revisited
You are being contacted because you contributed to a recent discussion of MOS:IDENTITY that closed with the recommendation that Wikipedia's policy on transgender individuals be revisited.

Two threads have been opened at the Village Pump:Policy. The first addresses how the Manual of Style should instruct editors to refer to transgender people in articles about themselves (which name, which pronoun, etc.). The second addresses how to instruct editors to refer to transgender people when they are mentioned in passing in other articles. Your participation is welcome. Darkfrog24 (talk) 02:03, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Line breaks in episode titles?
Hey Aussie, hope your weekend is well. I've noticed Luigi1090 adding an manipulating line breaks in episode titles. It doesn't seem like the most elegant way to solve the problem he's trying to solve. Got any thoughts? If so, could I trouble you to please drop him a note? I don't quite understand his explanation here. I also see that another editor has also commented about it. Thanks, sir! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:42, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks pretty awful. I'll get to it but I'm tied up with other things at the moment. I had to attend my mother's funeral today. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 11:41, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry to hear that, Aussie. My condolences. Amaury (talk) 14:11, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Oh shit, sorry Aus. Obviously it can wait. Condolences as well. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:26, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your kind words, but it's really been a relief. She had been going downhill since my sisters pushed her into a nursing home two years ago. She is now with Dad again, which is where she has wanted to be since he passed in 2008. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 01:37, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Kaley Cuoco
The source that is included within the article that is used to support her name as Cuoco-Sweeting is only using a image of her credited name on The Big Bang Theory, and a quoted social media post from Ryan. If these same standards are used to are used then her name should be Cuoco. The newest episodes of the show credit her as Kaley Cuoco. As well as her official Facebook page has her name as Kaley Cuoco.

The Wikipedia page for naming conventions states that the name by which the person is best known should be used and not necessarily their "official" name.

This article states that she will officially change her name back after the divorce is final. The article however is referring to her as Kaley Cuoco.

CSLoomis ( talk  &#124; contribs  ) 23:49, 14 October 2015 (UTC)


 * The whole issue here is that her legal name is still "Kaley Cuoco-Sweeting". That is supported by the source that you added, which states that she asked in her divorce filing that her name return to "Kaley Cuoco". Until the divorce is finalised her name is still "Kaley Cuoco-Sweeting", and that is why it is used in the article. The article title and how she is billed are both irrelevant to this. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 02:15, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

A bad warning based on POV pushing
... Checkingfax  ( Talk )  02:30, 17 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Again, please read templates that you add. This one specifically says pages regarding transgender issues and paraphilia classification. CHiPs is not such a page. It's an article about a TV program that ended 32 years ago. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 02:38, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Young & Hungry
Hey, just letting you know, when you updated the List of Young & Hungry episodes page to use series overview, you broke the connection between the main Young & Hungry page and it. (It would automatically update the episode count on the main page as well as the table on the main page) I'm not quite sure how to fix that. I assume you do? 99.162.156.37 (talk) 05:00, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I've checked and don't see a problem. Have you tried refreshing your cache? -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 07:45, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Jessie
This isn't like "Thomas the tank Engine" were the use of "kids" isn't allowed. Some uses of "Kids" are alright. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.83.60.230 (talk) 14:04, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia and uses a formal tone, so we use don't use words like "kids" unless they are part of an episode title. You've been told this before and have been reverted a number of times for exactly this reason. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 14:12, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Template:Series overview, etc.
Hey, AL. I'm taking Template:Series overview of my watch list. It looks like the color-contrast compliance issues that led to the dust-up back in August are since resolved. If you have any more WP:ACCESS issues with this template or any others, please ping me. Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 06:24, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Everything seems to be under control now, although it was only today that I added the option to include a caption when necessary. Still, it all seems to be sorting itself out. We are having a discussion at WT:TV about where to place the table in series articles which does have some MOS:ACCESS issues but they're minor. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 08:46, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Good to hear. I work on Aussie Olympic swimmer articles from time to time, and I hope you won't mind if I ping you for advice or comment now and again.  I have a pending GA nominated article about Olympic medallist Duncan Armstrong.  If you have time to look at it and make any suggestions (including Oz usage, etc.), I would be grateful.  Still looking to layer in some more newspaper references what someone e-mailed me a couple weeks back.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 16:42, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Raj Koothrappali
It's one thing that you may think it's better to link to a less specific article, I may understand that, but you shouldn't reenter a grammatical error. Snowsuit Wearer (talk&#124;contribs) 15:51, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * It wasn't a less specific article, it was an actual article. In article space you should link to articles, not to essays, which I indicated in my edit summary. On that, it wasn't obvious that you had made other changes, since you didn't bother using an edit summary at all. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 16:06, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * You should always look at the dif. before you just undo something. Snowsuit Wearer (talk&#124;contribs) 19:33, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I did, but again, it wasn't obvious that you had made other changes, since you didn't bother using an edit summary. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 03:43, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

V (1984 TV series) article issue
AussieLegend, I think I found a problem – V (1984 TV series), which only ran one season, has a separate List of V (1984 TV series) episodes article. Am I correct in believing that under WP:TVOVERVIEW I should cut and past this episode list back to the main V (1984 TV series) article, and convert the "List of episodes" page into a redirect? Thanks in advance for any guidance on this... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:26, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * As I remember, we decided that we weren't mandating merges back to the main article but it makes no sense to have a separate article for a single season so yes, it should be merged into the main article. Just remember to include attribution when you merge, as explained in WP:CWW. You can do that using Merged from and Merged to. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 04:59, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm familiar with WP:MERGE (though I usually end up forgetting some part, or getting it wrong! even though I try to follow the instructions), and have done this before. I'll probably look into merging the episode list soon, though I may add tags and leave them up for a week or so first... Thanks! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 05:11, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Category:Suburbs of Upper Hunter Shire
Category:Suburbs of Upper Hunter Shire, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mattinbgn (talk) 10:31, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Episode count templates
I'm sorry for putting these episode count templates on Futurama, Family Guy and Supernatural. What's wrong with these templates and why do we have one for shows like The Simpsons but not for shows like Futurama, etc.? Am I a vandal or something and will I be blocked? I just wanted to decrease the total number of edits. PK2 (talk) 19:57, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Templates that transclude to only one page serve no purpose, as it is just as easy to edit the page directly. For Futurama, since the series has ended there is no need to even edit the episode count in the main article, as it will not change. All of the templates listed in are unnecessary. All except The Simpsons episode count have now been made redundant and are now nominated for deletion. As soon as I can get around to replacing The Simpsons episode count, I'll nominate that as well. Creating unnecessary templates is not vandalism. You've just made a mistake in creating the templates. We all make mistakes and hopefully you'll treat this one as a learning experience. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 05:23, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Reference errors on 24 October
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Series overview
Tables are not required to have row headers as far as I know, and I don't see how having an empty cell as row header would benefit anything (I have no idea how screen readers handle that), but I guess others (such as you) might know more about this than me. Anyway, in that case it should be marked up as a header cell (i.e.  rather than  ). nyuszika7h (talk) 15:43, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * MOS:DTT specifies that we use row headers, which help screen readers navigate the row. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 15:49, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't see how empty cells help navigation, but whatever. nyuszika7h (talk) 17:03, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

You may be interested...
There's a new article on Gino and Mark Stocco. Is there a way to add it to the In the news section of the Australia portal?-Keepdry (talk) 02:32, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * The article seems to violate WP:NOTNEWS and adding it to the "In the news" section would confirm that. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 05:33, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Accessibility cleanup template
Hi Aussie, I had an idea I thought you might be able to help with, template-editor-wise. I don't see that there's a cleanup template for accessibility issues. I found Template:Accessibility dispute, but it's meh. The inspiration is this table, which doesn't look very screen-reader-friendly. I wanted to drop a cleanup template, but found none. I like the icon in the dispute template, but I think either a new template should be created, or this one be expanded to include reasons that display on screen, instead of just pointing to the talk page. Something like:

Would yield:

Or something similar/better. I also think including a section switch would be good.

Or something better. (I didn't spend any time thinking of the wording). Thoughts on this? Can you help with this? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:38, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll look into it. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 18:05, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Appreciated. And if it's not an exciting project, I'll force someone else to do it. :) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:58, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

I added the existing template to 2015 in film and it comes out, "This 's accessibility is in question." Blergh. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:56, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Marine subtropical
Marine subtropical means that the climate has oceanic influences, but is warm enough in summer to be above the threshold at 22 C as mean temp for the warmest month to be classified as subtropical. For example, Auckland falls below the 22 degrees threshold, so is counted as oceanic in spite of being very similar in many respects to the Sydney climate, only slightly cooler year-round. A major case in point is the subtropical climate found in Kansas City which have winter lows far below freezing, where as Sydney remains far above frost in terms of averages. Therefore the statement in my opinion is pretty uncontroversial. There is no exact boundary under the Köppen classification though, so I guess you have a point in terms of sourceability.

Best wishes from Sweden!

Lommaren (talk) 10:15, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Lost_Girl_(season_5)
Howdy, Aussie! Long time!

Re "Viewers" column: is there a way to make the "[a]" footnote in it stand out? Can the color of the lettering be made white? There are editors based in the USA who don't understand that Lost Girl is a Canadian television show produced in Canada for Canadian television. They don't understand that the only viewership that matters is the viewership in Canada. They don't understand that Showcase is the home channel, it produced the series, and Showcase's viewership determined if Lost Girl was renewed for another season. If the "[a]" footnote in the column were more visible it would help in stopping USA editors from adding Syfy/USA ratings to the column. Pyxis Solitary (talk) 11:30, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I've converted the article to use Episode table which should address the problem. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 12:35, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Saw what you did. Looks good. Thank you for handling this matter swiftly. If that doesn't stop the Americanos from screwing up Canadian data, I don't know what will. :-) I have no illusions about my editing capabilities in regards to tables, so I'm not going to try my hand at it, but I think the episodes articles for Season 1, 2, 3, 4 should probably have their columns turned same table format, too. Pyxis Solitary (talk) 13:40, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I've updated the other seasons. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 16:41, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

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Template:Infobox film - template tweak requested
Hi Aus, in case this is something you could quickly bang out, I was hoping to float it past you: Template talk:Infobox film. Short story: film name needs to be able to work also as film_name. Currently, if you use an underscore, nothing displays in the infobox. If you can get to it, thank you, if not, thank you as well. :) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:37, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ - see the template talk page for more. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 18:13, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you sir! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:33, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Aired episodes
Hey, Aussie. Out of mere curiousity, since I noted your comment of it being completely pointless, what were you attempting to do in the Aired episode template sandbox? Alex &#124; The &#124; Whovian 10:28, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I was trying to add a tracking category, but I didn't bother checking the code from the template. Had I done so, I would have realised that the code uses as of, which already puts it in that tracking category. It's been one of those days..... -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 11:52, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Notability
Hi AL, I think you may be setting a bar for notability that is a little higher than Wikipedia demands or in practice uses. I have created thousands of articles and nowhere else has this level of notability been demanded, except perhaps in biographical articles of living people. The hut articles are referenced by climbing guides and internationally recognised Alpine Clubs as well as information from their own websites. I am content for the tags to remain where there are no references independent of the hut's own site, but I would be grateful if you didn't add notability tags where there are independent references. Cheers. --Bermicourt (talk) 11:00, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I've edited thousands of articles and have participated in far too many AfD discussions to count. Notability is established as I explained on your talk page. I'm sorry, but if I do not see notability established in accordance with our guidelines, I will add tags as required. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 11:05, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Big 10
Happy belated ten year wiki-birthday, Aussie! May you be healthy enough to do another 10 years, even if you decide to quit long before then. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:37, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised Wikipedia hasn't been the death of me. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 10:41, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

List of dramatic television series with LGBT characters
How does one contact admins that oversee Wikipedia's LGBT articles? The List of dramatic television series with LGBT characters category page has been bombed with a 1,038-words, six-paragraph personal opinion. Pyxis Solitary (talk) 03:27, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * If you have page issues, you can request page protection at WP:RPP, or if you need admin's help with a situation, you can start at topic at WP:AN. I've restored the content (any user still has editing rights on that page) but there is a much larger issue with the fact that there are hardly any references for the claims made in the article. And considering the potential disruptive or controversial nature of the topic, it would be best to have the refs there to back up the claims that a character does or does fit in that list. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 06:10, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Pyxis Solitary (talk) 09:41, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank the lord for talk page stalkers. Pxyis, there are no admins that specifically oversee one set of articles or another. If you have a problem that you can't fix yourself and that needs the attention, you can always contact one at WP:ANI. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 10:12, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Alpine huts
Look I don't really want an argument either, but I'm not sure you realise how rude you sometimes are: "your comments don't make any sense to me," etc. If something doesn't make sense, it's a good idea to ask questions, politely, until you do understand. And you also come across, probably unintentionally, as quite arrogant: "it's clear that you don't understand the notability requirements." Actually, I do understand them quite well, but we happen to differ over what constitutes notability and you also want to reject what I and others consider reasonable sources. It would be fairer to say "it's clear we don't agree on the notability requirements." Finally you also act in a way which seems to me rather high-handed, as if you are the authority and not just a mere editor like the rest of us (e.g. see your response to me above). Even if you were always right, and who knows you might be, the way in which you have treated me feels like bullying and is not how Wikipedia is meant to operate.

Now look, why don't we bury the hatchet and find a constructive way forward. The AfD will run its course. I'm willing to work with you and/or others to improve Alpine hut articles by adding appropriate sources, if that's what's needed. If, on the other hand, you insist that they're not notable, I'll just refrain from adding any more. It's really no big deal and I have more constructive things to do. --Bermicourt (talk) 21:49, 7 December 2015 (UTC)


 * You really need to stop blaming other people and making excuses. As far as I am concerned, there is no hatchet to bury. The aggression and rudeness here has all been one sided. I created a new infobox as the result of an AfD and converted all your articles to use the new infobox but when I tried to encourage editors to bring poorly or completely unsourced articles up to a standard you reverted my attempts, and have continued to reverting my attempts, all the while blaming me. When your comments don't make any sense, telling you that is not being rude, it's simply stating a fact.
 * I'm willing to work with you and/or others to improve Alpine hut articles by adding appropriate sources - I don't have any confidence in that claim. In over 3 years you made no attempt, instead blaming me for your inaction. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 14:26, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

WP talk:MOS/TV reply
(1) Thanks for your answer about Recurring/counts. Most editors don't understand it and it's confusing. (2) But, I'm still waiting for a response in Tense for non-fiction episode list summaries. Thanks. --Musdan77 (talk) 21:39, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I've replied, but as I've explained there, I'm going away for a few days to see Taylor Swift in Melboring, so I may not be around. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 00:35, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Kosciuszko Huts
Hi,

Thanks for drawing attention to the various Kosciuszko Huts here. I've added some material to CSIRO Hut and Daveys Hut but there are few resources on these or any of the others. For what it's worth they are also very low-traffic - the average is 1.2 page views a day. Only three (CSIRO, Daveys and New Pelion) come close to 2 views, and the first two of those are a result of me editing them this month.

I'm contemplating creating a list-style article including all the Kosciuszko Hut articles. Positives include greater notability, improved reader utility (people looking for one hut are likely to want to also view others), and the opportunity to include more general information on the huts as a group. The negative is an inevitable duplication of the existing articles, which may hasten their eventual AfD.

I will either propose this more widely or just do it in the next week or so. Just wanted to get your views along the way, as someone who has recently been editing several hut articles. -- Euryalus (talk) 06:22, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I'd say just do it. I'm of the firm belief that this would be better for all hut articles, not just the Australian ones. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 06:42, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

The Dumping Ground (Series 4)
I don't really see how mine was "unsourced material". The Dumping Ground will be airing another series next month, and I felt it was time to create a post for it, the only information that should had a reference was the production dates, seeing as I got those from List of The Dumping Ground episodes. But, it's safe to presume that there is no cast changes, as nothing has been announced yet. Christhecoolboy (talk) 14:43, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * All articles require references. This one had none. Until such time as references can be provided, the article should not exist. Also, "it's safe to presume" constitutes original research, which is not permitted. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 14:46, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

IPA in Northcote, Victoria
Hi AussieLegend

You have reverted the change I made to the article Northcote, Victoria. The reason why I changed Template:IPA-en to Template:IPA is that folks at Help:IPA for English are rather prescriptivist and insist very much that Template:IPA-en be used according to a pan-dialectal standard. This means that they would only accept, whatever the local pronunciation is.

I personally think that the prescriptivism is not helpful, but watcha gonna do.

There is a (good) chance that the non-standard transcription  can sneak through undetected, but be warned: It is possible that some editor will one day discover it and unrelentlessly enforce the prescriptivist pan-dialectal standard. In order to prevent that, I changed the Template:IPA-en to the Template:IPA which can be used for anything, including local pronunciations of English. --mach &#x1f648;&#x1f649;&#x1f64a; 16:17, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Edit summary
I did not ignore the note here. Perhaps you misunderstood what the note says. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:59, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * My apologies for my edit summary, which was innacurate. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 03:48, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
To You and Yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 18:23, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

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Birthdates
I disagree completely about birthday issues when the birthday is IMPORTANT to the storyline. Harry Potter's birthday was extremely important to the story. So was Amy Farrah Fowler's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akcarver (talk • contribs) 23:12, 20 December 2015‎ (UTC)
 * You are free to disagree but the standing consensus is that the birthdates of fictional characters are generally considered to be trivial. That it was Amy's birthday might be important to the storyline, but the actual date itself is not. WP:FICTENSE says Works of fiction are generally considered to "come alive" for their audience. They therefore exist in a kind of perpetual present, regardless of when the fictional action is supposed to take place relative to the reader's "now". If one were to watch "The Opening Night Excitation" on, say, June 25, 2020, it would would still be her birthday while watching the episode. It would not matter one iota that her birthdate was December 17. Quite to the contrary in fact. If one considered her birthday to be December 17, then on June 25 the story would make no sense. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 06:40, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Merry Christmas, Aussie!
And may all your days be [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvfhoWIPoVw merry and bright. . .] Your Christmas down under will no doubt be warmer than ours in Atlanta. Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:21, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy Holidays too!
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Merry Christmas!
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Template edit request
Hi Aussie, could I impose upon you to please look at this edit request and comment on whether it's a suitable change or not? A belated Merry Christmas to you, assuming you go in for that sort of thing. Me, I'm just in it for the loot. Thanks man, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:37, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I've been tied up with other real life issues and haven't been able to get to this as of yet. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 12:23, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

TVUPCOMING
Hey, Aussie. I noticed you had made &#123;{User:AussieLegend/tvupcoming}} while looking at your cheatsheets tonight; funny thing, I've been working on the same thing at &#123;{User:AlexTheWhovian/Upcoming}}. Were you ever able to get the provided parameter (year) to substitute into while it was in the comment? I'm having this exact issue. Alex &#124; The &#124; Whovian 12:47, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
 * No, I was never able to resolve it. I hope you found the cheatsheets useful. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 12:24, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I did, thanks! If you're wanting to get yours to work, I found the solution: Help:Substitution. Alex &#124; The &#124; Whovian  23:54, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Family Guy (season 14)
Hi AussieLegend, I'm unclear about your revert of my edit here. The info I used for the summary was clearly sourced in the Futon Critic reference that was already provided and I don't know of any policy that disallows summarizing of episodes that haven't aired if there is significant coverage by a reliable source (in this case, Futon Critic). Thanks  Katniss  ♥  03:43, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * How can you summarize something in your own words that hasn't aired yet without paraphrasing it and hence violating copyright standards? Alex &#124; The &#124; Whovian  04:00, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Or getting the story wrong. The Futon Critic source says Africa, while KatnissEverdeen's summary said India. This is why we wait until after an episode has aired. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 05:35, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Hardcore Pawn
Hi, I heard you reverted my edit for Hardcore Pawn you don't know is renewed, or still playing, but you don't have proof that's no new season. So the show is probably cancelled. That's why the article is outdated. Happypillsjr  ♣    —Preceding undated comment added 15:36, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia doesn't speculate. Per Verifiability, which is a core policy, everything added to Wikipedia must be verifiable. There is no source confirming cancellation so we can't say that the series has been cancelled. To do so constitutes original research, which is not permitted. Your edit to Hardcore Pawn deleted a valid template without any explanation, which is another reason your edit was reverted. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 16:15, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

NCIS: Los Angeles rv
"Instead of using raw code, use the templates specifically designed for this purpose." Using those templates every time obviously causes repeated linking, which is ridiculous. It's better not to use those at all than to have the same links over and over.

"Per convention, link the first occurrence of a character's name" Again: WP:REPEATLINK. The following section is about the characters, and that's where the links should be – and certainly not in both places (2 consecutive subsections). – Musdan77 (talk) 16:53, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


 * A switch can be added to the templates so that only the first occurrence of the templates is linked but WP:REPEATLINK does provide for repeated links in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, hatnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead. However, that table should not really be in the main series article at all, per the discussions we've had at WT:TV. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 17:00, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


 * 1) Please explain the "switch", or give a link to it. 2) Of course repeated links can be used in those cases "if helpful for readers". I don't think it's helpful or needed when they are so close to each other. 3) I don't disagree with that -- if there is consensus. —Musdan77 (talk) 17:15, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * A switch is just an extra parameter that you can add to change the output. Instead of writing Cmain, writing Main displays just "Main" without a link. You can actually make the cell display anything.


 * WP:TVCAST says that the cast and characters section should be presented as prose. A table is not endorsed by the MOS. It's not mandated that there should be no tables, but there has never been any real support for them. They can be used where a lot of tabular data is present,such as at The Walking Dead but not in articles like NCIS: Los Angeles where the information is easily presented in prose. See, for example, this discussion from August 2015. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 00:01, 31 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help. I should have figured that myself (CMain|). So then, should I do the switch thing or did you want to remove the table? (Actually, I guess it would be moved to the characters article – and altered for that.) —Musdan77 (talk) 04:25, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year, AussieLegend!


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CartoonFanboy
Special:Contributions/Cartoon_Fanboy vandal ? Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 21:13, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Could be but he seems more like a new editor who is unaware of policies and guidelines. Well, he knows about 3RR but clearly not WP:CIVIL. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 10:50, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

New Girl
Don't threaten me on my talk page. You're violating the outcome of the RfC &mdash; I quoted directly from what the ADMIN directed be put into the template. I'll ask that same admin to speak with you. You can't just throw a number in and expect us to "take your word for it."--Tenebrae (talk) 15:41, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
 * As you are well aware, the RfC was closed for technical reasons; i.e. the wording of your question suggested an outcome that could not be achieved. There was no consensus for any change to our existing procedures. You have reverted 3 times at New Girl, so a 3RR warning was appropriate, it was not a threat. If you have a problem with figures, challenge them and give other editors a chance to provide citations, don't remove the figures that have been in articles for and certainly don't remove the parameter entirely. Your recent actions concerning this have become quite disruptive. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 15:48, 4 January 2016 (UTC)


 * 3RR does not apply in cases of vandalism. Contrary to your assertion, the RfC absolutely said reliable sourcing is required for runtime.
 * Here are the exact words by the closing admin: "The point at issue was, narrowly, are we allowed to use running time figures measured by individual editors directly. The answer is an unambiguous "no"< for the same reason that we would not allow such sources for the height of an actor or the size of a building. --Guy (Help!) 18:14, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * And I will take this to any 3RR claim, so I imagine WP:BOOMERANG may be a concern. --Tenebrae (talk) 15:55, 4 January 2016 (UTC)


 * You were not reverting vandalism and the content you've quoted is from your private discussion. It is not reflected in the TfD close. However, it does not say that citations are needed in all circumstances! -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 16:26, 4 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Deliberately editing in defiance of RfC outcome is vandalism. What part of the admin's statement "A reliable third party source is required says that a reliable third-party source is not required? --Tenebrae (talk) 16:44, 4 January 2016 (UTC)


 * To help you find it, it's under "Thank you, and a question": "Yes, exactly that. A reliable third party source is required. Guy (Help!) 07:19, 20 March 2015 (UTC)"
 * --Tenebrae (talk) 16:45, 4 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Per Vandalism, Bold edits, though they may precede consensus or be inconsistent with prior consensus, are not vandalism unless other aspects of the edits identify them as vandalism. The RfC did not close with a consensus and RfCs are not binding. Therefore, your edits were not revrsion of vandalism. You continue to misrepresent the outcome of the RfC. The closer was clear when he said The RfC close has nothing to say about whether running times from reliable independent sources have to be cited inline in infoboxes, or whether citation from a source linked within the body is acceptable ... The close speaks only to the question of whether personal observation is an acceptable source for a running time. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 17:14, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, your edits are vandalism since they deliberately defy WP:NOR, one of the cornerstones of Wikipedia. -1Tenebrae (talk)


 * Perhaps you should actually read some of the policies. Original research is not vandalism. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 19:36, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thanks. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 19:37, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Attribution
I thought I was already covered by simply naming the articles in the edit summary. I've tried inputting parameters into the templates, but I can't get it to work. I believe this is what I need to document, if necessary:

The entire content of List of works by Derren Brown in this version split to Derren Brown with this edit  and to a new article, List of Derren Brown shows.

The entire content of List of Derren Brown shows, series and specials in this version merged to Derren Brown with this edit  (same as the one given above)

The entire content of Mind Reader – An Evening of Wonders in this version merged to List of Derren Brown shows with this edit

Any ideas how to properly format it in the templates? Corf Nont (talk) 19:11, 6 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Use split from and split to. Check Talk:List of NCIS: New Orleans episodes and Talk:NCIS: New Orleans (season 1) for examples of how to use the template. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 20:33, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

I still can't figure it out. I know what you want done, I just can't get my head around the templates. Would it be OK to just make a scratch built version using the base code....i.e. to manually insert something like I've put below on each talk page, editted as appropriate to match each action I listed above.

Corf Nont (talk) 18:35, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Subtropical Climate of Sydney
Hey Aussie I realise the source states that the climate of Sydney is temperate (even the maps show temperate) but I did email the bureau about this and they confirmed that Sydney (Observatory Hill at least) is above the 18 degree isotherm and therefore is classed as a Subtropical climate. If you wish to see the email concerning what I have just told you, please tell me.  Lux ure Σ  02:12, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Your email constitutes original research, so it can't be used. We have to reflect what published reliable sources say. I just saw a new report that said we had 100 mm of rain here in the past 24 hours when I know that we had 132.7mm. However, if I was adding the amount to an article I'd have to add 100 mm, not the correct figure, because the reliable source says 100 mm. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 07:52, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * That is pretty stupid considering it's wrong. Heard they were evacuating some residents of Raymond Terrace due to the rain.  Lux ure Σ  11:25, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Reliable sources aren't always reliable, but we have to live with it. Today demonstrates how unreliable they can be. The water in the paddock near my house is deeper than it was in April (4+ metres), and Grahamstown Dam is overflowing, but it's really not a big thing. Tonight The Project showed a number of houses but they are at the lowest point in the town and are some of the several houses adjacent to the river that get wet every time the river floods. Fortunately, most of the owners were smart enough to build houses with all living areas above the garage. Cars can be parked less than 100m away and be perfectly safe. Some of the road closures around here make no sense. The road from the old Pacific Highway to the Williams River is closed completely, but I saw cars driving over the bridge over the river. You can't get into Maccas, but you can get into my storage shed, which is closer to the river. If you drive past the road closed sign at the end of the road where my storage said is, you can turn right and get into Maccas that way. Fortunately, the highly inefficient pumps that Council installed are working this time so the lowest parts of the town are mostly dry. Despite being higher in the paddock next to my house, there doesn't seem to be as much water in the valley as there is in this image. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 12:11, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Indeed, I've found it happens quite a lot as a university student. I've seen sources that I question since it seems like opinion of the researcher. While I personally agree that Sydney just scraps into the subtropics, authoritative sources say otherwise and have searched high and low looking for other reliable authoritative sources in my uni's library but no luck. Bidgee (talk) 07:31, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Episode table template
Sorry for what I disrupt on putting episode table template for all seasons of the American Hell's Kitchen, but it seems to follow with the new standards for the template. ApprenticeFan <font color="#919191">work 13:54, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Don't apologise, it's actually a good idea. Unfortunately, due to a lack of functionality it doesn't work in all articles. I've reverted just to find out which articles it can be used in, and I'm now restoring it to the ones where it does work. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 13:59, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Page move
I'm not sure if this move meets MOSTITLE. Could you check into this? — Confession0791 talk 03:41, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

JAG/NCIS dispute resolution
I have requested a dispute resolution, as legal documents filed by the franchise creator don't meet your burden of proof. --Unframboise (talk) 00:09, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You are welcome to do that. I have opened a discussion at WT:TV as a result of your edit-warring. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 00:10, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello
Hi. So I noticed that your account has been active for a long time so you know how things work. Okay so there is a TV show called The Shannara Chronicles it has aired episodes 1 & 2 and has released 3 & 4 online. Under the "list of episodes" someone keeps repeatedly changing it from 4 to 2 "because episodes 3&4 didn't air yet." So my question is do you add episodes 3&4 even if they air or not and if so is there a way to report that user for vandalism? 9janedoe999 (talk) 22:15 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Mel & Joe
What is non notable? And how is this speculative? His hair is either grown or not... (and no time to grow hair the week between shootings, and then cut it again..), and matches the production code... (all eps before 1016 are short hair...)

--AnTho-aR (talk) 18:55, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Non-notable is not worth mentioning. Wikipedia discourages trivia. It is an encyclopaedia, not a fansite. The words "we can assume" are speculative. We do not assume anything. This is original research, which is not permitted. Per Verifiability, a core policy, all content added to Wikipedia must be verfiable, and the content that you have added to List of Melissa & Joey episodes is just a lot of unsourced personal assumptions. If you want to add something like that, it must be sourced to reliable sources. Unless that happens, it cannot be included. Please also note that, since your additions have been opposed, you are now obligated to discuss them and convince other editors to form a consensus to add them, per WP:BRD. While that happens you should not continue restoring the edits to the article. While the edits are under discussion, the status quo reigns. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 01:04, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Quick change
Hey Aussie. Per this template edit, it's all fine, except you need to make the 'N' in No. lowercase. That would be most appropriate. So it should be  Thanks. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:41, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Question
If I was looking for Australian press sources for As the Bell Rings (Australian TV series), where would be the best places to look?... Thanks in advance. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:17, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't really know. Australian ratings are controlled by the major TV networks here and the ratings are generally for current shows. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 13:21, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'm not looking for ratings. Really, I'm looking for where you'd go for "new TV premieres!"-type announcements. But that article is completely unsourced, and I'd like at least one Australian press source announcing that that show was going to premiere on Disney Channel Australia or something... Thanks! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:15, 25 January 2016 (UTC)