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AvicBot malfunction
your bot is replacing Nascar with "Heluva Good! Sour Cream Dips"Coffeepusher (talk) 02:42, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It's fixing a double-redirect - look at the article - Heluva Good! Sour Cream Dips at The Glen - it's a race, and related. There is no malfunction. Avic ennasis @ 03:02, 10 Nisan 5772 / 03:02, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * oh, I was using a new bot, and it looked just like reoccurring vandalism from my view. I'm just getting used to it so sorry for the mistake.Coffeepusher (talk) 03:06, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

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The AvicBot has been redirecting the terms on the right side of the bulleted list at Talk:Extrinsic_extensor_muscles_of_the_hand to "extrinsic extensor muscles of the hand". A user has gone around removing 11 articles and redirecting them to some new page. Would it be possible to configure your bot to ignore double redirects for these particular articles? Currently it isn't a double, but if the user does this again, the bot replaces them, and unfortunately when we restore the removed articles, the bot doesn't correct it by restoring the redirect to where it originally pointed.

I am wondering, in regard to bot codes, would there be some way to enhance the code to recognize situations like this (maybe via reading history or recording its own actions) where it can reverse a redirect alteration after a page it changed (which at one point pointed to a redirect page) would have no longer pointed to one after it gets restored?

Having the same issue with EmausBot so will direct them here, maybe you guys could compare notes? Y12J (talk) 22:24, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm looking into solutions for this... No promises, but I'm thinking of having some way to log the bot edits for this might be best, so they can be reviewed later. Avic ennasis @ 01:31, 20 Nisan 5772 / 01:31, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Awesome, looking forward to it. For now I'm just keeping track of them on the article's talk page so once the back and forth stops they can be restored. Y12J (talk) 10:29, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

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AvicBot C-Train/Calgary LRT redirect
Just bringing to your attention that AvicBot changed two redirects for the Calgary light rail network to go to the Edmonton system's page. The redirects are Calgary lrt and Ctrain. The original target was C-Train, AvicBot changed it to Edmonton Transit System. C-Train is not a redirect.  vıd ıoman  22:56, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
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Want to run for RFA?
Hi, I noticed your bot fixing a double-redirect, and then searched a bit more and see you have > 70K local edits, > 200K global edits, Global Rollback, two local Sysop rights, and run a Global Bot. Hence I could nominate you for Adminship if you want to start doing Sysop things over here, too?  It Is Me Here   t / c 15:37, 14 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I appreciate your offer. I've thought about RfA before, to be honest. I've always been rather nervous about the whole process, though perhaps I should just "bite the bullet" and go for it. If you think I could be a better asset to the community with a mop, then who am I to disagree? Avic ennasis  @ 05:43, 26 Iyar 5772 / 05:43, 18 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Cool. Seeing as I'm not overly familiar with your work, as I say, what major work have you done on en.wp specifically / what sort of admin work would you be looking to go into / anything else I should know? Thanks!  It Is Me Here   t / c 09:25, 18 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I've dabbled here and there, off and on - Mostly at WP:UAA and dealing with vandalism and speedy deletes. I also help with WP:CFD/W/M and as an admin could help with WP:CFD/W as well. I have a registered nick on IRC so I can respond to stuff real-time (though I haven't been on much lately, I should have more time available nowadays). The only concerns I think that might come is that 1.) my activity comes and goes (real life stuff affects that), though I do have email alerts for talk-page changes and will make it a point to respond quickly as an admin, and 2.) that my activity may not be "extensive" enough for some people, as far as admin-areas of the project. Hopefully, I'm wrong - I do like to think I've put in enough time here to know what's what.  Avic ennasis  @ 02:47, 28 Iyar 5772 / 02:47, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, there's the link. Read 1, 2 etc. – standard stuff. I wouldn't bother with, although on the subject of your user page, you might want to clean it up a bit. I don't just mean the pictures/whatever (nothing wrong with showing a bit of personality), but more the fact that it is confusing in places (e.g. do you have a degree in Theology or Computer Science?). Once you've filled in your page, feel free to transclude it yourself. Good luck!  It Is Me Here   t /  c 10:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Heh, I'd forgot about most of those userboxes. I've cleaned it up a bit. My RfA is live now - thanks again for the nomination. I hope the community has the same trust in me that you have. Avic ennasis  @ 06:17, 29 Iyar 5772 / 06:17, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

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Is this bot possible?
I haven't discussed it with anyone on Spanish wikipedia yet, so I'd need to get it approved, but I was wondering if it would be possible to create a bot that can check for pages in a category on English Wikipedia that have spanish interwiki links and add the Spanish Wikipedia page to its corresponding category. For example I just created es:Categoría:Videos de YouTube, I would like to go through Category:YouTube videos and find pages like Nyan Cat which has an interwiki link to Spanish Wikipedia and add it. (I just did that one manually, but there are 156 pages in the category. I have created others too.  If that can't be created, or they won't approve it on Spanish Wikipedia, is there a way to create something that will list all of the pages that have interwikilinks in a category for me?  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  20:24, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I believe that should be do-able. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis  @ 05:07, 7 Sivan 5772 / 05:07, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

en→es
I have a list of pages at User:Ryan Vesey/Pages in categories. Can you please create a list of the Spanish wikipedia pages that these correspond to? Ryan Vesey Review me!  06:50, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I have a new list now, can you assist? Ryan Vesey  Review me!  00:12, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Your bot puts interwikies wrong
Hi, Thrashing (computer science) had interwiki to russian ru:Компьютерный сленг (this is real story, not just an example), which means "Computer slang" and this terms are not related completedly. The russian article had interwiki to english one, too. So, 26 May UTC I removed en->ru interwiki. But I didn't remove ru->en interwiki, because I'm too lazy and I hoped some interwiki bot will remove ru->en interwiki. But instead, your bot didn't remove ru->en interwiki and moreover 28 May 2:34 UTC it added en->ru interwiki again! So, it is bug in your bot. Please, fix it. If someone removes interwiki, it means that this interwiki is wrong, so any bot should not add it again and it should remove reverse-interwiki.

But this was only part of the problem. The real life is even worse: Thrashing (computer science) had the following interwikies: cv, de, (en), es, fr, gl, ja, pt, ru, th, uk. I read this articles (thanks to google translate) and understand, that (I'm sure):


 * cv slang
 * de thrashing
 * (en thrashing)
 * es thrashing
 * fr slang
 * gl thrashing
 * ja thrashing
 * pt thrashing
 * ru slang
 * th thrashing
 * uk slang

Moreover, all this articles have interwikies to each other (thanks to interwiki bots, dammit). So, they are complete graph. 26 May I not only removed en->ru interwiki, but also all other wrong interwikies (en->cv, en->fr, en->uk). 28 May 2:34 UTC your bot added this interwikies back. But instead, it had to split this complete graph to two connected components, i. e. two complete graphs: de-en-es-gl-ja-pt-th and cv-fr-ru-uk.

Also, the bot should correctly work in any case, for example, somebody changed en->ru interwiki and now it points to another article (bot should reconstruct complete graphs). Safinaskar (talk) 12:23, 28 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Why there is such many interwiki bots? I think there should be only one interwiki bot for all languages. And it should have very stable code, it should correctly work in all situations etc. But now there are many bots and I think there is bots that has the same bug. Also, FYI: I just (28 May 13:04 UTC) splitted the graph manually. Safinaskar (talk) 13:19, 28 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid that's how the code works. If an Interwiki is incorrect, it must be removed from the articles in all languages - else the bots will just assume that someone made a new page and that links are missing and re-add them. The bot's are not smart enough to read your edit summary or know if/why an interwiki was removed. Also, if there was just one bot running, It wouldn't be very effective - articles are created and deleted all the time across 250+ different language Wikipedias, and one bot simply could not keep up with that. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 18:07, 7 Sivan 5772 / 18:07, 28 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Bots are not smart enough? So, make them smart! Also, I have a question: have all interwiki bots the same code? Safinaskar (talk) 16:43, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


 * There are many minds much better than mine working on artificial intelligence - and until they succeed, I'm afraid we are stuck with rather 'dumb' bots. There is some variation in code from bot to bot, but I believe most of them rely on the same base - Pywikipediabot.  <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis  @ 04:09, 10 Sivan 5772 / 04:09, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for link! I understand a lot of things (especially interwiki.py helped to me). Do you use this script? Do you use it in automatic mode or semi-automatic mode? I think I understand why there is such many interwiki bots: because they need manual interaction, so one human cannot work with all this interwikies. Moreover, such human should know all languages (oh!). Am I right? Safinaskar (talk) 08:47, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

RFA
Hi Avicennasis, I'm sorry to say that I have closed your RFA as unsuccessful, with a final tally of 67/34/6. Despite your apparently sound technical work, I felt that there was very consolidated opinion in the opposition section concerning your content contributions, with ultimately no overriding consensus to support you contributing in an administrative role here. I hope that you found the feedback constructive and valuable. Best, WilliamH (talk) 12:30, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Good luck next time :) Ryan Vesey  Review me!  17:30, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear that you RFA failed. I don't see how lack of content contributions would make you a bad admin. → B  music  ian  02:33, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the kind words. It is a valid point, though. At least I now know what the community expects of me in the role of an admin. I'll certainly be working to eliminate those concerns! <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis  @ 05:21, 8 Sivan 5772 / 05:21, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Nonfree content on your userpage
After the question was raised during your RFA, I'm surprised the matter was not pursued further. Under WP:NFCC #9, nonfree content may not be displayed outside article space, even if it meets "fair use" requirements of copyright law. I believe you should remove the material involved promptly. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 18:08, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Mr Wolfowitz. I also think that the quote is too long to be fair-use. -- Dianna (talk) 00:36, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The entire text of the quote is available on Wikiquote. Text on Wikiquote is released under a CC-BY-SA 3.0 license.  As such, the entire content of Avic's user page is composed of free material.  If you still believe that the material is not free, I suggest that you raise the issue on Wikiquote.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  03:30, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz does have a point - while the author himself has given away this book for free, that's only been "free as in beer, not as in speech," so it retains it's copyright (though Neil probably wouldn't mind the quote. ) I will also point out that fair use cannot and should not be measured by length. "The distinction between fair use and infringement may be unclear and not easily defined. There is no specific number of words, lines, or notes that may safely be taken without permission." Regardless of length, though, it is non-free, and outside articlespace, and as such, I've removed it. It's about time I changed my userpage anyways.


 * A note about Wikiquote and the licensing - A person editing a page there (or here, really), agrees to license the material that s/he has created, not that they have copy/pasted word for word from another place. (Although it doesn't say it as explicitly.) If an editor were to pastes the entire text of a New York Best seller on Wikiquote (or, again, Wikipedia), and, by saving the page, "irrevocably agree to release [their] contribution the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL.", it does not and can not void the copyright of the author whose work they posted without permission. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 05:12, 8 Sivan 5772 / 05:12, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for researching this, Avicennasis, and for replacing the sketchy content. Good luck on your next attempt at demotion to admin! Might I suggest helping out at WP:EAR or answering queries that are tagged with the template as a couple of ways to get involved in helping users interpret the byzantine world of wiki? Regards, -- Dianna (talk) 18:57, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

AvicBot "repairs"
The article Joseph_(name) has a wrong link to the French Wikipedia: József instead of Joseph. I've fixed it, but your bot changed it back. Please fix it and tell AvicBot that József is the Hungarian form of the name! ;) Thx! – Insane.kismanO (talk) 11:02, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * When you update an interwiki, if it's incorrect, you must change the link on every other article in the Interwiki links, like this, else the bot will simply think the link is outdated do to a pagemove or something. This is how all iw bots work, I'm afraid - really easy to add links, really hard to correct them. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 15:32, 8 Sivan 5772 / 15:32, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

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 * Thanks! Glad I could be of help! <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 05:52, 9 Sivan 5772 / 05:52, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

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About interwikies (again)
Hi, I think that that bug in your bot is actually Pywikimedia bug (you are using this bot, right?). So, I posted the bug here: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3532712&group_id=93107&atid=603138 Safinaskar (talk) 10:09, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
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Protect pages from double redirect fix
I'd like to protect a couple of seldom-used pages from having their double-redirects "fixed" by your bot. Is there a tag which the bot will respect? —&#91; Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 21:37, 7 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes - simply add to the page. I would suggest nobots though, as there are other bots that fix double-redirects. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis  @ 00:05, 18 Sivan 5772 / 00:05, 8 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. It turns out that double-redirects don't work, though, so I couldn't do what I wanted to do anyway. :) —&#91; Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 22:30, 8 June 2012 (UTC)


 * And that's why the bots fix these - so they work. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis  @ 06:57, 19 Sivan 5772 / 06:57, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

A question
How to move a file without leaving a redirect ? eg regards--D ℬig  Xray  05:53, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It's a userright restricted to Sysops and Global Rollbackers. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 05:54, 18 Sivan 5772 / 05:54, 8 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Indeed, so thats why i was not getting any such options, thanks for the clarification. any special req for global rollback rights ? --D ℬig Xray  05:56, 8 June 2012 (UTC)


 * One has to be active in anti-vandalism work across a wide-range of wikis. Small Wiki Monitoring Team and Global rollback go over these - but generally, one has to be active in reverting vandalism across different language wikis for a few months before they are likely to get the userright. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 05:59, 18 Sivan 5772 / 05:59, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * ok, the quick reply is much appreciated, regards --D ℬig Xray  06:05, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you know if Wikipedia's technical restrictions allows for giving that option to a new userright? It just seems silly that more editors can't do that. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  15:24, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, the ability to create a new userright with certain permissions is actually very easy to do, on the technical side - the problem would be getting consensus for such a change. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 18:38, 19 Sivan 5772 / 18:38, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Think I should head to the village pump? I just can't think of a good reason of not granting permission to at least those with rollback rights.  The only downside could be if someone didn't check for links.  It would even help with vandalism.  If someone chose to move Rod Hamilton to Republican pig farmer from Minnesota and they didn't leave a redirect, anybody could undo the move.  Currently, it would take an admin. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  18:56, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You can certainly try - it is a rather useful tool, and it still leaves a history on both pages to show what happened. The community has gone both ways about breaking up the admin's toolbox - so it may gather some opposition, which you should be prepared for if you start that discussion. I do this it would help more than hurt, if given to trusted editors. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 05:34, 20 Sivan 5772 / 05:34, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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Research project relating to the Wikimedia Strategy Process
Dear Avicennasis,

My name is Gordon Mueller-Seitz and my colleague, Leonhard Dobusch, and I are currently engaged in a research project relating to the Wikimedia Strategy Process that took place in 2009-2010. Our key interest is to explore how this strategy process actually unfolded.

In this connection, we started with interviewing WM personnel and promoters such as Eugene Kim in a first step. By now we want to broaden our insights in a second step and we would like to kindly inquire if it was possible to make a short telephone interview with you concerning the WM strategy process? If yes, we would very appreciate it if you could suggest a date/time that would suit you and the telephone number we could reach you from April onwards.

Thank you very much for a brief reply. We look forward to hearing from you.

Best wishes, Gordon and Leonhard

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A25 Bridge
A25 Bridge still has that pesky double redirect. Olivier Charbonneau Bridge should be the final title. Peter Horn User talk 22:47, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You'll have to move the article at Olivier-Charbonneau Bridge to Olivier Charbonneau Bridge, then. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 05:47, 28 Sivan 5772 / 05:47, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Backlog Priority Bot
Would it be conceivable for a Bot to be created that lists "Backlog priorities". I am thinking of something based on page view statistics. For example Firefighting averages around 250 views a day (usually more) and it has 3 tags on it. I'm sure there are similar articles with even more average daily views. Would it be possible for a bot to take page view information for a 30 day period divide that number by 30 and add and remove articles with maintenance tags to a page like Articles with maintenance tags receiving over 1000 views a day, Articles with maintenance tags receiving over 500 views a day, and Articles with maintenance tags receiving over 100 views a day? It wouldn't be necessary for the bot to remove the pages if it was done manually. Ryan Vesey Review me!  16:50, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It should be possible, sure. I'm not quite sure how it could be implemented, but it's certainly do-able. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 18:36, 29 Sivan 5772 / 18:36, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Is it something that you'd be interested in doing? Should I consider making the comment at bot requests? Ryan Vesey  Review me!  02:48, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not 100% sure on how to go about coding that - and I don't have Toolserver access, which might be helpful for this. It's certainly a good idea, just not one that I could implement - a request at WP:BOTR would be in order. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis  @ 03:02, 1 Tamuz 5772 / 03:02, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

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User talk:Dragonfarm
So why would you unilaterally change a category in a block message I left on a user's page? I'm sure you know changing others' talk page contributions is almost always wrong. You seem to be doing it a heck of a lot. Toddst1 (talk) 02:33, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Just as it says on Category:Wikipedians who are indefinitely blocked for spamming - "Over time, it is expected that the older talk pages listed here will be switched over to the newer categories." - I've been trying to sort this category into better subsets of that. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 02:37, 1 Tamuz 5772 / 02:37, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok. That makes sense, but if you're going to switch them, do it right. That user should be part of both Category:Wikipedians who are indefinitely blocked for advertising and Category:Wikipedians who are indefinitely blocked for promotional user names. You also made a similarly incorrect change on User talk:Empowerbpo.  Beyond that, you should reference that you're updating the cats to newer ones in your edit summaries. As it stands now, it looks like you're second-guessing all these admins.  Toddst1 (talk) 02:44, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I'll go back over the ones I've done already to see if the advertising category also applies, and use a better edit summary. (I apologize for the prior one - I never intended for it to look like I was second-guessing anyone, but I can see now how that could be taken.) <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 02:48, 1 Tamuz 5772 / 02:48, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Cool. And this is probably an indication that I should probably sign off for the night - that I assumed you were mucking with me/us. Admins need thick skin and mine is apparently feeling a bit thin tonight.  Cheers. Toddst1 (talk) 02:51, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

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Double redirect to penis
Hi. Is there a way to prevent edits such as this? I guess the issue was caused by this bit of vandalism. --MZMcBride (talk) 05:26, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Not that I've been able to account for, just yet. I am going to start generating redirect-fix logs, based on namespace, like this, so the edits can be reviewed later for vandalism redirects. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 19:44, 4 Tamuz 5772 / 19:44, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

C7H9NO5
The error is corrected. Thanks for letting me know. --Dcirovic (talk) 02:49, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis  @ 05:35, 5 Tamuz 5772 / 05:35, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Mackintosh Braun (band)
Hi, you recently declined my page due to a lack of notability and unverifiable references. The artist in question is signed to and has released two albums through Atlantic Records, a subsidiary of Warner Music Group, and much of my information was cited through AllMusic.com, one of the leading music review/database sites on the internet. The group's soundtrack work was cited through IMDB and Wikipedia itself, and even if the group were not signed to a major label, I believe that this work alone would qualify them for inclusion. All of this information is available in the draft I submitted, and I would greatly appreciate it if you took a second look at the article. Thank you.

63.116.153.127 (talk) 19:04, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Please see my reply below. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 18:40, 6 Tamuz 5772 / 18:40, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Help with blacklist
Hi Avicennasis,

I noticed that you made an edit to this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_engine

I work for FindTheBest, a company listed on that page. FindTheBest was blacklisted from Wikipedia a few years ago for adding a page while the company was still very young. Now that the site has grown to 10M visitors a month, I am attempting to get FindTheBest removed from the blacklist.

I appealed to this page, but was denied by ~Amatulić: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#FindTheBest.com

Amatrulic told me I need to find a trusted editor to make an appeal to have the FindTheBest page restored. Can you help me out? Feel free to contact me at evanthomas1(at)gmail(dot)com

Thanks!

Evan (talk) 21:00, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry - based on prior user's actions with this site and repeated attempts to promote it on Wikipedia, I don't think I can be of any assistance to you with this. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 05:22, 6 Tamuz 5772 / 05:22, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

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afc review


Err, it doesn't fail WP:NMUSIC since the band has signed at Warner... I have the helpee in #wikipedia-en-help. Please rethink your decision. (maybe d|v| would be more correct). <small style="font: 12px Courier New; color: #000000; display:inline;border:#009 1px dashed;padding:1px 3px 1px 4px;background-color:#fff">mabdul 17:37, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I've resubmitted it myself for review from another editor. WP:NMUSIC doesn't list merely being signed at a big label as a notable trait - but it does mention releasing albums from a big label as counting. While this AfC does mention a couple albums, neither the article nor the references say which label they where released under - and the references do need work.


 * I have no prejudice on any editor un-doing any of my work on AfC if they feel I was in error. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis  @ 18:39, 6 Tamuz 5772 / 18:39, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I've updated the albums. What other references need work? Besides the major label (and soundtrack work) what else is needed to demonstrate notability? 63.116.153.127 (talk) 19:00, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Interwiki
Could you make a note on AvicBot's page that shows editors that they can fix an incorrectly added interwiki link by hiding it in a hidden comment? See Bot owners' noticeboard and Village pump (technical)? As a comment, it appears that advice given at User talk:Avicennasis/MainArchive/2012Q2 actually doesn't work in some situations. It would be great if AvicBot could provide some amount of advice in the edit summary as well or at least point towards the advice on the bot's user page. Ryan Vesey Review me!  16:20, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * This may not be the solution, it doesn't appear to be fully supported at the Bot owners' noticeboard. Ryan Vesey Review me!  16:36, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Trumeau mirror
What criteria is the bot using to add interwikis? I just had to spend a few minutes at several wikipedias removing a wrong interwiki which was added to Trumeau mirror and other languages.--Jordiferrer (talk) 06:55, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * AvicBot only uses -Auto for interwikis - so any errors that occur are either due to another bot or a human editor. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 06:57, 9 Tamuz 5772 / 06:57, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you know which was the error in the mentioned example? --Jordiferrer (talk) 23:47, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * It looks like the problem was caused by this pagemove on EnWp and this incorrect interwiki added to DeWp, which was then replicated to all the others by this interwiki bot. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 07:07, 10 Tamuz 5772 / 07:07, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Question about AvicBot
I just saw that AvicBot is processing category renames. Does AvicBot delete categories after transferring their contents to the renamed categories? If not, I don't think it should be doing Cydebot's task. I disabled AvicBot for CfD until I hear back, though obviously anyone can turn it back on if they desire. Just trying to be cautious about something I haven't seen before.--Mike Selinker (talk) 07:48, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 * AvicBot does not delete categories, as it is not an Adminbot. Per the BRFA for this task, AvicBot will move the pages in a category then tag that category with, for example, as it did with Category:Formula One drivers by constructor teams (I believe). AvicBot was running for exactly this reason, when Cydebot just seems to die at random. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis  @ 09:16, 10 Tamuz 5772 / 09:16, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Cydebot does indeed seem to die at random. My concern is that this creates a lot of manual work, but if there's a way we can run the original categories through a deletion bot with the appropriate summaries, that might solve the problem. Anyway, we can continue with the process. Go ahead and re-enable the bot.--Mike Selinker (talk) 15:08, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Article Rejection
Hi, I received a rejection for my article on "The Leprecaun Monthly" cartoon magazine. I used a couple of Wikipedia articles as reference that both reference the magazine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Fitzpatrick_%28cartoonist%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fergus_O%27Hea

and I also included two other website references and the "Dictionary of Irish Artists", a book that is an encyclopedia of Irish Artists through the last two centuries which I was actually able to check out at a library and read (which is more than the other writers probably did for their articles because it's a very difficult book to find!). So in closing, I thought 5 references would be sufficient for this title. Can you tell me what I'm lacking? I have artwork too, but I can't upload it since my status is not high enough yet.

Thanks! 15:11, 18 July 2012 (UTC)LKruczek (talk) LKruczek (talk) 15:08, 18 July 2012 (UTC) "Lisa Kruczek, June 30, 2012" — Preceding unsigned comment added by LKruczek (talk • contribs) 20:18, 30 June 2012 (UTC)