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Categories for discussion/Working/Large
Hi, Is Avicbot reading Categories for discussion/Working/Large as well as the regular page? There haven't been any large listings since the bot was put onto CFD stuff but it would be useful to know for certain if it will be looking there before doing so. Timrollpickering (talk) 20:37, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
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Polite CFDW inquiry
Hi! I've long noticed a troublesome trend with Wikipedians writing and running bots that perform tasks that are essential for the proper maintenance and functioning of Wikipedia without sharing the source code to them. Then, years later, if/when that bot runner disappears (or has something bad happen to him; the canonical "run over by a bus" example), Wikipedia is in a bad place, because we have to scramble to re-create a program that evolved over the course of years and that had very rich functionality.

That is why I proposed a requirement at WP:BAG that the source code of all bots be provided before they are approved to do any novel task, and that the available source code by kept up to date as the bot matures. I haven't tracked whether that requirement actually ended up going through, but I still maintain that it's a good idea, and in order to "walk the walk", I contributed back the countless hours I've spent working on category robots back to the community to the PyWikipediaBot SVN repository. I'm sure you no doubt discovered that this was the case when you were able to effortlessly bring up your category moving bot in the wake of the June 2012 North American derecho that left Cydebot inoperative for five days owing to a lack of power. We are well-covered for the eventuality of me possibly getting run over by a bus (much as I would hate for that to happen).

However, the fact remains that I have not been run over a bus yet, and I would like to respectfully and politely ask for you to leave the category moving tasks to Cydebot until that (or another power outage) should occur. I spent a lot of time writing the bot and I think it's only fair that I get the enjoyment of of running it too, and it's important to clarify that I released the source code not for other people to be able to run it here, but for other people to be able to run it in the event that I am no longer able to (or of course on other language Wikipedias where I am not not running a bot). Thanks for letting me bend your ear, Cyde Weys  01:54, 14 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello. First, let me thank you for the polite note. It seems clear to me that this is something you've spent a lot of thought on, and I appreciate that you can calmly and rationally explain your position on something that seems close to your heart.


 * The task I purposed was solely to have AvicBot run when Cydebot go down, as you mention above. It was never my intention to try to replace Cydebot - only to have a backup approved and on-hand should it be needed. This is why I coded in a checkpage - so that AvicBot's CFD task can be called upon only when Cydebot is not feeling well. When Cydebot is up, as is the case now, AvicBot should be disabled with this page.


 * For the moment, I've commented out this task from cron - effectively disabling the script. My question is - do you feel that this checkpage is enough? (Should the instructions be more clear about *only* enabling this task if Cydebot has been down for 'X' hours?) Would you prefer the checkpage to be fully protected, perhaps under your/Cydebots' userspace, for you to enable if you know Cydebot will be down? Or would you rather the task be left alone, until that bus comes along?


 * I will have no qualms about whichever decision you make. I can easily strike this task entirely off AvicBot's to-do list. I respect your choice in the matter, as well as the thoughtful way in which you've started this discussion. (If you prefer to continue this conversation more privately, feel free to email me.) Please let me know your thoughts or concerns with any of the above. Avic ennasis @ 07:02, 24 Tamuz 5772 / 07:02, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for understanding. It's fine to leave the checkpage around with some instructions to the intent of "Do not enable this bot unless Cydebot is down and a sizable CFDW backlog has accumulated". Or some number of hours (24?) is fine, if that's easier to explain. -- Cyde Weys 22:14, 15 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I've modified the editnotice for the checkpage to reflect the above - Feel free to make any other suggestions (or just modify it yourself.) I'm going to uncomment the line in my crontab to start this check again. If you need anything else, or decide later on to change your decision, my talk page is always open. Avic ennasis @ 05:21, 26 Tamuz 5772 / 05:21, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

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Article Rejection
I have not received a reply for this post, so I'm posting again.

Hi, I received a rejection for my article on "The Leprecaun Monthly" cartoon magazine. I used a couple of Wikipedia articles as reference that both reference the magazine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Fitzpatrick_%28cartoonist%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fergus_O%27Hea

and I also included two other website references and the "Dictionary of Irish Artists", a book that is an encyclopedia of Irish Artists through the last two centuries which I was actually able to check out at a library and read (which is more than the other writers probably did for their articles because it's a very difficult book to find!). So in closing, I thought 5 references would be sufficient for this title. Can you tell me what I'm lacking? I have artwork too, but I can't upload it since my status is not high enough yet.

Thanks!

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Hi Avicennasis! I notice that seems to be running an old version of Pywikipediabot, which is causing small issues like this. As interwiki.py is frequently updated, the bot policy recommends that its users update to the latest version of the script daily. Is this something you could put in cron? Thank you! &mdash; madman 02:39, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It is, or at least, was, until it apparently broke recently... Thank you for the heads-up. I've stopped any Interwiki instances until I've fixed that. Avic ennasis @ 05:59, 4 Av 5772 / 05:59, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem! Thanks for your quick response. &mdash; madman 06:19, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

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The Leprecaun Monthly
I have not been able to get a response from you for this question:

I received a rejection for my article on "The Leprecaun Monthly" cartoon magazine. I used a couple of Wikipedia articles as reference that both reference the magazine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Fitzpatrick_%28cartoonist%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fergus_O%27Hea and I also included two other website references and the "Dictionary of Irish Artists", a book that is an encyclopedia of Irish Artists through the last two centuries which I was actually able to check out at a library and read (which is more than the other writers probably did for their articles because it's a very difficult book to find!). So in closing, I thought 5 references would be sufficient for this title. Can you tell me what I'm lacking? I have artwork too, but I can't upload it since my status is not high enough yet.

This is my third time posting. I'd love to get a response.

Thank you

Lisa Kruczek August 8, 2012 LKruczek (talk) 19:23, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

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