User talk:Avinash Vats

Got that but in the below of the page unsourced caste mentions are there from unreliable source.Can i revert that ?

What i found is that mention of Kayastha word but in original Rajtarangini its is ashwakayastha who manages accounts of fooder of horses.And in all other books of Kayasthas as a community is not mentioned please clear this issue if am wrong please clear me. Thanks for reply

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 * Our article clearly states:
 * Jaswant Lal Mehta (or Sterling Publications) is not a reliable source. TrangaBellam (talk) 19:51, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * P.S. : I had copy-edited the paragraph; the relevant line goes, To avert such a possibility he had her married to Durlabhavardhana, who was from a low caste. TrangaBellam (talk) 20:00, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

General Sanctions Alert
Chariotrider555 (talk) 15:36, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

March 2022
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Tyagi. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Chariotrider555 (talk) 00:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Have you read my sources ? This is just like a propoganda my all the sources excluding Raaj sources too even Government of India clearly says that Tyagis are Gaur Brahmins. But no you are not checking the sources just for the sake of your propoganda reverting my edits and without checking te sources of other editors which dont have any releated stuff to tyagi edit them.

Your Vandal Edits
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. You have cited false books that doesn't even mention Tyagi as Brahmins in any of its page -- Bingley &Nicholls,Swapan Dasgupta,Shovan Ray,Ian Stevenson and you have also cited Raj Era sources such as Brahmanutpatti Darpan,and Pseudo sources such as Nagendra singh,Commision of Haryana Backward Classes,Untouchability in Rural India(Cited two times. Please read WP:RAJ for more details. Marvel200(talk) — Preceding undated comment added 12:26, 29 March 2022 (UTC) I already mentioned Non Raaj Sources I am not vandalizing all my edits are from the older edits of Sitush and i already forwaded this query to Sitush dont revert my edits until Sitush revrt on talk page. Thanks

None of my edits were false edit war started by you not by me.Brahmanutpatti Darpan was printed in 2005. Thanks

Warning
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia. You are continuously vandalizing the wikipage and it is against the wikipedia policy WP:RAJ. All the sources are already carefully seen and rejected. Marvel200(talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:51, 29 March 2022 (UTC) Dont put copy paste you are not the administrator.

Notice that you are now subject to a sanction

 * Replying to your topic-ban appeal on my talk page: I did check the sources you were adding and found them to be non-reliable and/or not supporting the sentence they were appended to. See below for the details:

In your most recent edit you added 10 references, of which:
 * 1) The first cited source is self-published by a non-expert. See WP:SPS for why this is not acceptable.
 * 2) The second is from 1896
 * 3) The third is by a political commentator with no known expertise in the area of castes and the book's subject does not appear relevant either
 * 4) The fourth's subject matter does not seem related to the article;  Google search says that the only 'relevant' sentence is "The number of Tyagi households is about 60 but their dominance in village matters is quite pronounced", which seems irrelevant to what the source is cited for.
 * 5) The fifth is from 1897
 * 6) Per in-text Google search, the sixth source, which pre-existed your edit, says "Historically the Tyagis are Brahmins but have now left priestly services and mostly are engaged in farming. In services their representation is very less. Educationally too they are backward", which is not the impression the lede sentence gives.
 * 7) Seventh source cited: Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation. How is that a reliable source for this subject?!
 * 8) The eighth and ninth source are the same and only the relevant sentence is "In May 2000, a Tyagi Brahmin, the newly-elected sarpanch of village Dipera summoned..." Not a basis for making a general statement about the community.
 * 9) The reliability of the tenth source is at best disputable and, in any case, the chart on page 29 that you referenced in one of your edit-summaries does not support the actual details of the lede sentence


 * It was apparent that you had mainly searched Gooble books for works containing 'Tyagi' and 'brahmin' and then ref-bombed the article with whatever came up. And then you edit-warred over a month to retain your lede sentence and such sources. This is not the way to edit wikipedia and therefore I am not amenable to lifting your topic ban yet. If, however, you are able to edit less contentious areas of wikipedia for, say, the next three months and show that you can comply with wikipedia's sourcing and neutrality policies, then I will be open to the topic ban being lifted at that point. You can appeal this decision to the administration board for other admins to review but please familiarize yourself with WP:UNBAN and Guide to appealing blocks (the latter mainly talks about blocks but similar principles apply) before you do so.


 * PS: The current version of the Tyagi-article may well have its own inadequacies as I said at the article's talkpage but that is a matter for other editors involved with the page to discuss and improve. Note that, as the guide to appealing blocks makes clear, raising issues about the article or other editors will not help you in your appeal. Abecedare (talk) 12:30, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the support Census of Delhi in the year of 1961 mentions them Tyagis a subcaste of Brahmins.

This is the source link :

https://books.google.co.in/books?id=8NybTO1IQp4C&q=tyagi+brahmin+census&dq=tyagi+brahmin+census&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjV2tqv4-32AhX0heYKHVDUBXc4ChDoAXoECAkQAQ

Most of British sources are allowed in caste related articles than they are not allowed here ?

Added one more link from the Anthropological Survey of India 1992.

https://books.google.co.in/books?id=KhIwAQAAIAAJ&q=tyagi+gaur+brahmin&dq=tyagi+gaur+brahmin&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjp65i0n-72AhWVzjgGHdCUDfI4ChDoAXoECAcQAQ

Important Notice
Abecedare (talk) 05:04, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Topic ban violation
This is a violation of your topic ban from South Asian castes and social groups. Did you even read the topic ban notice? Did you click on WP:TBAN, as urged you to do? It doesn't look like it. You have been blocked for a week. If you violate your topic ban again, you will get a longer block. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Bishonen &#124; tålk 16:59, 30 March 2022 (UTC).

April 2022
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for violating your topic-ban as soon as your previous 1 week block for similar violation expired. It has become clear that yu are not interested in editing any areas of wikipedia outside the ones related to castes, so this time the block is for indefinite duration.. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Abecedare (talk) 04:14, 7 April 2022 (UTC)