User talk:Avindustrygeek

Avindustrygeek, you are invited to the Teahouse!
Maybe you have not seen, I would prefer to do any edit discussion on the Wheeltug talk page. thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.180.21.6 (talk) 11:20, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

I would be happy to carry on a detailed discussion with you on the Talk page for others to see, but first I would like to kindly request that you set up a user login and profile. Avindustrygeek 12:56, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * If you like for our discussion I can sign my comments to you on Wheeltug talk, how about I use the sig 'Tugboat'. I am not interested in long term wikipedia drama, I do not use a wikpedia account to edit and I stay on topic.  You should know non-username contributions are on an equal footing to username contribs.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.180.62.248 (talk) 10:08, 12 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Let me first address a couple of your points where my response is fairly straightforward. You make the comment "20-22 airlines interested, this is recycled Wheeltug press release quote, numbers change but source is always Wheeltug; needs real 3rd party source, I would drop that line."

The Aviation Week article from January 2017 is behind a paywall, so you may not have been able to access the entire article. Information about the number of airlines signed up was provided in the article and was not from a quote attributed to anyone associated with WheelTug. I consider Aviation Week to be a credible Third Party source.

Another comment you make is "Dual door boarding, wheeltug twist, etc; marketing statements from CEO or press releases recycled in industry mags, too much info for stub article." The Royal Aeronautical Society (referenced in my footnotes) decided that dual door boarding was an important enough aspect of WheelTug to highlight in its write-up of the show. The RAS writeup is not connected to any company press releases. Dual door boarding was used historically to load airplanes, but the increasing thrust of modern jet engines made those methods no longer safe. Thus, with the exception of some over-wing procedures (which do not involve parallel parking and are mostly used for wide body jets), dual door boarding has not been seen much since the 1980s. It is only logical that the ability to board and deboard passengers through two doors will greatly speed the process, regardless of whether or not you accept WheelTug's estimates of the time saved. Since the emphasis of WheelTug's messaging is time saved and dual door boarding is a major time saver, I believe it is very relevant, especially in light of the RAS article.

In your first comment you speak about the "latest certification application." The problem there is that WheelTug only has one certification application. Their plan was approved by the FAA in December 2016 and that is undoubtedly what generated the spate of articles this past January. There is no record of FAA STC applications from WheelTug prior to the plan approved last December. The earlier versions of WheelTug were therefore just proof of concept demonstrations. Avindustrygeek 15:08, 12 September 2017 (UTC)