User talk:Aviral18

July 2022
Hello, I'm Yamaguchi先生. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person   on Pardeep Narwal, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 18:49, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Pawan Sehrawat. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 18:52, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to Bajrang Punia. Thank you. Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 18:53, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Caste in an biography article
Caste of a living person requires self-identification in an interview or declaration in verified social media handles like Twitter, etc, per WP:CONSENSUS at WP:INB. That is the person should mention that he/she belongs to the caste explicitly. Do not add otherwise. For dead people you only need a reliable source WP:RS. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:27, 11 July 2022 (UTC)


 * ok Aviral18 (talk) 11:35, 11 July 2022 (UTC)


 * You said OK, but not following consensus and rules in Wikipedia. You added Sushil Kumar, using Jatland.com as a source, which is considered unreliable in Wikipedia. Even reliable sources do not work for living people. You need an interview video or tweet from Sunil Kumar where he says "I am a Jat". See the Bajrang Punia source where he self-identifies his Jat caste - "अंतर्राष्ट्रीय जाट दिवस की हार्दिक शुभकामनाएं । मुझे गर्व है मेरे समाज पर जो बुलंदियों को छू रहा है". Find a similar or and interview for Sushil Kumar. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:47, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * sorry sir new to wikipedia. I will keep it in mind now Aviral18 (talk) 11:54, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Please stop adding names of living people in List of Jat people without any self-identification. SIdhu Moose Wala is kept because he is dead. Per WP:CONSENSUS in Wikipedia, we cannot mention caste of people in their articles or a list if no self-identification is present (interview or declaration in official social media handle, website). - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:45, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * i am adding sources and everyone whom i am putting is from jat community. What is wrong in it? Aviral18 (talk) 15:50, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * That's what I've been saying. Adding a source is not enough for a living person. As per the below consensus, you have to provide an interview or tweet/post from the person's official social media account where he/she says they are Jat. The source I added for Bajrang Punia above, he says मुझे गर्व है मेरे समाज, that is self-identification that he is a Jat. Simply adding a source that says a person is Jat is not enough for living people, but is OK for dead people. For example, Moosewala is dead. We didn't write his caste when he was living, since no self-identification was available then, but after his death, I added his caste in Sidhu Moose Wala article, since the self-identification policy do not apply to dead people, but only living. Hope you understand that. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:09, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * This is the WP:CONSENSUS at WP:INB with a poll also, against mentioning caste of a living person without self-identification. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:49, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * other communities have also done this
 * can you take this action on their page too?? Aviral18 (talk) 15:58, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I can. I check only List of Brahmins, List of Jats, List of Rajputs and List of Khatris. Besides it is a consensus. You can challenge and remove them from other articles. If someoone has problem, tell me. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:01, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Use reliable sources like news portal, books, etc. This is a Wiki like blog source, so unreliable. Harnaaz Sandhu source you provided was fine, since her motehr said that they are Jatt Sikhs in an interview. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:23, 11 July 2022 (UTC)


 * so those who do not have Wiki page will not be added in list even there are are proper sources?? Aviral18 (talk) 11:03, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes people without Wikpedia articles can't be added per notability. If you want, you can draft articles of them per WP:WTAF WP:GNG and get them reviewed (thus moved to mainspace), thus establishing notability. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:12, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
 * if i draft article of them. can they be added after that? Aviral18 (talk) 17:14, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You have to get those reviewed and transferred to the mainspace. Drafts can't be linked in articles per MOS:DRAFTNOLINK guidelines. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:28, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Hathi singh tomar moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Hathi singh tomar, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page.  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 07:38, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Hathi singh tomar (August 15)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Ts12rAc was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.


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 Ts12rAc talk to me 17:06, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Deshwal
Hello, Aviral18. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Deshwal, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 06:02, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Deshwal


Hello, Aviral18. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Deshwal".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 05:58, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Hathi singh tomar
Hello, Aviral18. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Hathi singh tomar, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 18:00, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Hathi singh tomar


Hello, Aviral18. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Hathi singh tomar".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 17:56, 15 February 2023 (UTC)