User talk:Avontoun

Externl links
I've removed all of the links you inserted to an external photo site. See WP:EL for more advice on the sorts of links that are welcome. In short, links must be very highly relevant. Your insertions border on (or cross the border of) spam, seeming to have more to do with promoting the EL than improving the article. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:04, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Can you be more specific as to why you have removed links. All links created relate to the History of Edinburgh or specific streets and places.

The links are relevant as they contain archive film and photos relating to the history of Edinburgh and the historic information is researched.


 * Specifically, because you posted the self-same link to all of these pages (bar the London pages). An external link from, for instance, Tron Kirk should immediately take me to some specific additional info on the kirk, not to a general purpose site which invites me to rummage around on the off chance that I might find anything on the kirk. See WP:EL point 13. I suspect if I looked harder, I'd find other reasons to reject its inclusion,. such as point 1. Then there's the fact that it doesn't work in my browser, which makes me suspect it has accessibility issues per point 7. --Tagishsimon (talk) 18:56, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Here are current examples of External links on Edinburgh Edinburgh – Inspiring Capital, the official introduction to Edinburgh City Region which is Edinburgh council The City of Edinburgh Council, again Edinburgh council Edinburgh – The official Tourist Board which is tourist information National Library of Scotland: SCOTTISH SCREEN ARCHIVE (selection of archive films about Edinburgh) which is archive film footage

The Historic Cities is providing similar information and content to the above, including archive film footage, photos and historic information. The above examples are giving minimal information on whar Edinburgh is about and it's history but giving information about services related to Edinburgh!!

And the same self link is because there is only one page which contains ALL the content. It is a web application. It doesn't have to be multiple pages and if someone is looking form information on Lawnmarket, Cannongate, Royal Mile, Holyrood, Edinburgh, Princes Street etc, the that page provides relevant information. It shouldn't have to be different pages for different subject matter!

Re: "doesn't work in my browser" I have tested this on: Firefox, Chrome,Opera, Safari and IE8 and 9 it doesn't work on ie7 but ie7 is redundant so access should not be an issue

The other sites mentioned above do not take the user to specific pages on the subject matter.


 * I'd be happy to see any inappropriate link removed. The existance of other poor links on any page is not reason to add more. WP:EL are the guidelines. IE6 users still exist - much of HM Government, for instance. I suggest if you feel very strongly you could go to External links/Noticeboard such that a fuller discussion with more interested parties can be had.
 * Do you have any connection with the EL website? --Tagishsimon (talk) 20:05, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

I built EL site over 3 years and research information for the site and the photos from sources including Capital collections (Edinburgh Council) and Royal Commission on Ancient and Historic Monuments and continue to develop the site. I am from Edinburgh.

Also, Government sites may use ie7 but that is certainly not a barometer for the wider population. You'd be just as well to state that a software can't be run on Windows 95 therefore it isn't a viable product.

You'll find most web development companies support support the most recent browser version plus 2 previous. Since we are now at ie10 then you'd set the bar at ie8.

Since you were so quick to remove the links, I'd suggest you check the other external links for ALL the pages you removed my link from and establish what is appropriate. I don't do other peoples' work for them.
 * That's not how it works. If you want the EL's back, I've pointed you at the appropriate avenue. See also WP:COI. --Tagishsimon (talk)