User talk:Avraham/Archive 26

Hi Avi
Did you get my response? Pedro : Chat  07:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello
Avi, do you think you could take a look at this discussion. Obviously having been entrusted with the tools, I'd really like to act in manner that's befitting of an admin. Do you think I could get some honest feedback about how I handled that situation? Thank-you Seraphim&hearts;  Whipp 09:19, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Remember that giving SW a positive review would, of course, be a conflict of interest once removed ;) Sceptre (talk) 14:25, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * But seriously speaking, when I said, "I take all the comments to heart and hope I can fulfil the role of being an admin to the high standard that the community deserves", I really did mean it, and that's why, as on several other occasions, I just want someone to let me know that what I'm doing is right or wrong. Seraphim&hearts;  Whipp 14:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Personally I think you're a bit more resilient (and possibly a bit more foolish for that reason) than I - I grew tired of trying to argue with Pixel because he's adamant about the issue. Still, thanks a lot for stepping in, SW, without being asked to either. Sceptre (talk) 15:10, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi, SW. There was no issue with your stepping in initially and providing Pixel with advice. The only possible constructive criticism I could make, my friend, would be to say that if you see that the recipient is nonreceptive, perhaps an earlier disengagement is warranted. If they want the last word, let them have it :) . Thanks, -- Avi (talk) 15:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank-you muchly. Damn pride! :P I'll bear that in mind for the future :). Seraphim&hearts;  Whipp 15:47, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Someone's got a favourite nominator.. :) Rudget   (Help?) 15:00, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You're so gonna get badgered by me now! :P Seraphim&hearts;  Whipp 15:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Avi
I hope the vandal got a laugh out of it too. I'm trying to keep things light around here in light of the neverending drama that teeny tiny things tend to provoke. Hope you are doing well and happy editing.  T i a m u t talk 15:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Highly Active
Sorry I missed you in the list, it's a work in progress. And being chopped liver isn't all that bad. :) Useight (talk) 15:34, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

FYI
I have made a proposal re Jaakobou here --NSH001 (talk) 17:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

My RfA
Thank you for !voting in my Rfa. I hope I can learn and build from it. CJ2005B (talk) 20:28, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Smile!


Here's an iceberg for you! Icebergs somehow promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving something friendly to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Make your own message to spread WikiLove to others! Happy editing! Acalamari 21:46, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! Thanks for the return smile! Acalamari 21:51, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Skype invite
Hi, I'd like to invite you to a Skype chat. Please e-mail me for my Skype ID. :) Durova Charge! 04:50, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

New Project
Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 02:57, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Judaism related issue needs input
Hi Avi, can you have a look at the proposal at Talk:Circumcision? The proposal looks fine to me, but I think this needs input from someone who understands the subtleties of Jewish law. Thanks, Jakew (talk) 13:45, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Washington Post reporter ISO info
Avi, I'm writing a feature story for the Washington Post Sunday Magazine about Wikipedia and the open-source information movement. In particular, I'm going to take an in-depth look at the editing and refining of disputed Wiki article: the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad entry. As you know, mediation was completed last November. I'd like to interview some of the Wiki users who were active parties in the process. I've "spoken" woth about a half dozen participants by email. However, I THINK I negelcted to contact you when I sent out my original interview requests. Would you be willing to talk with me by phone or email? I'm hoping to file a first draft of this story this coming week. Any chance we could do an interview sometime in the next three or four days? Thanks, Teamsport86 (talk) 15:55, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

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RfB
1) So soon? :S (is there an image for that?)

2) "with another soon-to-follow" - ooh, who?

3) Good luck.

dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 05:03, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I can't support unless you know the difference between a block and a ban! dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 05:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

RE:Question
Heh, I'm not GlassCobra :P Good luck with the nom, hope to see in the 'cratship in a week.  « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @  '' 05:38, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Haha, its all good, I mean was about to drop my support and oppose lol.  « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @  '' 05:41, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow I have to say, nice use of the word "dis-invertebration" lol :)  « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @  '' 05:45, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Haha! Avi, I could ask you a question for you to reply to, if you like. :P GlassCobra 07:19, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Messianic Jews
Because Messianic Jews fail to recognize the Holy Trinity, they are not recognized as Christians by the two main Christian Churches, ie the Catholic and Orthodox Churches. Belief in Nicean creed is held as a prerequisite by most Christian bodies. However, many Messianics use the kabbalistic concept of Shilush to carry the same meaning.

HOLY OF HOLIES IN THE HOUSE OF YAHWEH AT TEL ARAD
Avraham I'm not sure exactly why you edited the content that I have put on the holy of Holies subject. Nevertheless, the fact of the matter is that a holy of holies exist at the site known as the House of Yahweh of Tel Arad. This is the only location in Israel archaeologically identified as the House of Yahweh and also has a holy of holies which as we all know was only used for the ark of the covenant in Israelite times. In addition to that the holy of holies existed before and during the First Temple. The bottomline is that under the holy of holies pages a link to site or reference of the location deserves to be made esspecially considering the archaeological uniquiness of the site. BECAUSE IT IS THE ONLY ISRAELITE HOLY OF HOLIES FOUND DEDICATED TO YAHWEH WITHIN THE LAND OF ISRAEL TO THIS DATE. I understand your contention with me putting this kind of information up which sounds like I'm directing people to somewhere else. Yet the truth of the matter is that we have found every drop of archeaological evidence necessary to prove the Mishkon or House of Yahweh at Tel Arad to contain a holy of holies used by the children of Israel (in first Temple period). So leave this info alone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saverx (talk • contribs) 17:25, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

RfA draft.
Thanks, Avi. Blackworm (talk) 18:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

THE HOLY OF HOLIES IN THE HOUSE OF YAHWEH
Avraham I'm not sure exactly why you edited the content that I have put on the holy of Holies subject. Nevertheless, the fact of the matter is that a holy of holies exist at the site known as the House of Yahweh of Tel Arad. This is the only location in Israel archaeologically identified as the House of Yahweh and also has a holy of holies which as we all know was only used for the ark of the covenant in Israelite times. In addition to that the holy of holies existed before and during the First Temple. The bottomline is that under the holy of holies pages a link to site or reference of the location deserves to be made esspecially considering the archaeological uniquiness of the site. BECAUSE IT IS THE ONLY ISRAELITE HOLY OF HOLIES FOUND DEDICATED TO YAHWEH WITHIN THE LAND OF ISRAEL TO THIS DATE. I understand your contention with me putting this kind of information up which sounds like I'm directing people to somewhere else. Yet the truth of the matter is that we have found every drop of archeaological evidence necessary to prove the Mishkon or House of Yahweh at Tel Arad to contain a holy of holies used by the children of Israel (in first Temple period). So leave this info alone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saverx (talk • contribs) 17:29, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

The My references
Listen, the Tabernacle Congregation of Prayer is a Yeshiva and institute of biblical studies. They have researchers, historians, and archaeologist all over the world investigating Israelite and Jewish sites. In fact members of the Yeshiva work closely with Israeli archeaologist at Tel Arad til this day. Most of the information published on their website is not openly known about the site outside of those that deal directly with it. Yet as for the webpage in question it only states quotations from book of the original archaeologist of the site in 1962, Yohanan Aharoni and notes from the National Park of Israel and historic references. I originally provided the title of Mr. Aharoni's books on the Wikipedia page however someone removed them. The information at http://tcprayer.bravehost.com/house.htm is the only one that provides quotes from the books that I could find published online. But if the Yeshiva is legitamate enough to work with the Israeli government on the ground then I have no problem with accepting them as a legitamate source of information about the site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saverx (talk • contribs) 19:02, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

The Neutral Evidence
You know your whole arguement seems to be bent on the fact that you've never heard of this site and aren't familiar with those works published on it. Either that or you don't believe I have a Neutral view on the subject. Like I said before the website in question is the only place that I know of that gives away this information for free online. However, the statements made on the site are not new. 'The Harper Atlas of the Bible' on page 53 under the 'Temples in Palestine' section there was shown the holy of holies area in the Israelite temple at Arad. In July of 1987 Biblical Archaeology Review published an article concerning the Phoenician Israelite Broad-Room Temples found in Israel. In the article it stated that "the tenth-century B.C. temple from Arad is the only Israelite temple to the Hebrew god Yahweh ever recovered in an excavation." In May of 2001 Biblical Archaeology Review on pg 34 in an article entitled 'Sacred Stones in the Desert' by Uzi Avner, again a picture of the holy of holies was shown with a picture of two artifacts with Ancient Hebrew written upon them. The article stated that "much evidence found at Arad, such as two potsherds inscribed with the names of the Israelite priestly families Pashur and Meremoth, rove that the temple is Israelite." these names were well known priest in the Tanach (Bible) which worked close to the house of Yahweh in the time of Erza and Nehemiah. Also Hershel Shanks made mention that "..BYT YHWH had been found complete in only one extra-Biblical inscription, a faded ostracon from Arad with an obscure context,.." In the section of the book 'The Israelite temple at the Arad Fortress' it was stated on pg 41 that "In 1968, Yochanan Aharoni unearthed one of the most remarkable archaeological finds ever discovered in Israel: an Israelite temple in Arad. This find is unique; to this day, over thirty years later, no other Israelite temple has been found." On page 42 it was said that "the temple at Arad is the only Israelite temple ever found, it gives us an insight into Israelite worship and what Israelite temples looked like." Also on page 47 it concluded by stating that the citadel was "a site where a series of strong fortresses were built on top of one another, starting with David or Solomon, right up to the Roman Period." (which verifies the chronological timeline that the Yeshiva's website displays in detail). I could go and go on Avraham and these are just the repected news sources that your Wiki polies refered to and doesn't even cover the indept findings of Aharoni and his books.

See Yohanan Aharoni was the Chairman of the Department of Archaeology and Ancient Near Eastern Cultures and founder of the Institute of Archaeology at the Tel Aviv University. After his excavation of the site he wrote two books that he went into detail concerning his finds at the House of Yahweh. The first was 'The Archaeology of the land of Israel' and the second the 'Arad Inscriptions'. In one of the books he states "There can be no doubt that the shrine in the northwest corner of the Arad fortress had all the architectual elements of the Jerusalem temple and the Pentateuchal tabernacle: courtyard, vestibule, holy place, holy of holies, altar for burnt offerings, incense altars and even the orientation towards the sunrise." All of those sources are on the site that we are disputing about, yet the fact are not in dispute and the people who are learned about the site have published simular content. Now I could just copy those references and make direct note of them on the Wikipedia page but this way saves time. Plus, the best thing I like about the site that I refer to is that it states the prospectives of others, shows the agreements and the disagreements. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saverx (talk • contribs) 20:19, 5 May 2008 (UTC)