User talk:Avs5221/Archive 2

Thanks...
...for your help getting rid of stubs for every speck of rock in the solar system. They mock notability guidelines. If it would be helpful for me to add my voice in favor of the deletion, tell me where I should make that argument. Chrisrus (talk) 03:26, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


 * :) Thanks for noticing! Seems silly to go through prod, but so be it. If you'd like to voice favor, add to the top of the page. That will "second the motion." avs5221 (talk) 03:44, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Done! Thanks again for finally noticing this problem.   But why stop there?  Look at this:


 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Main_Belt_asteroid_stubs
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Main_Belt_asteroid_stubs
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Asteroid_stubs
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Asteroid_stubs

I left a picture on the last of these illustrating the problem. Chrisrus (talk) 05:37, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree it does seem to be quite an issue. Most of the pages I visited noted the date and place of discovery, included some stats from NASA, and that was it. The real culprit here is User:ClueBot_II, which was given unimpeded ability to mindlessly create these useless pages. Your best course of action would be to create the admin who approved it, but he's left Wiki. You could also contact the bot creator, User:Cobi. He'd be the best person to ask why all these pages are necessary. Remember, be courteous (I can tell you really hate these stubs) and that should get you off on the right foot. I wish I had a better answer, but frankly it'd be impossible to manually sort and delete all of those stubs (I'm sure some of them have merit). avs5221 (talk) 06:03, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the advice and information. Chrisrus (talk) 06:34, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, by the way; when you said "I'm sure...merit", I'm really curious what you might have been thinking of. Chrisrus (talk) 06:34, 3 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll be honest, I don't know the first thing about asteroids or what could entail notability. But what I meant is I suspect, just through the sheer number of them, that at least of a few of them would meet notability standards to have their own page (maybe they have a unique orbit or they were part of a notable experiment, I'm just throwing out ideas). But I could absolutely be wrong. That said, I also doubt the vast majority necessitate their own page just so we can list their values. Does that make sense? avs5221 (talk) 02:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah. Put'm on a table somewhere, that's what I've been saying.  Chrisrus (talk) 06:08, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Korhonen
Hello, to your question: sorry if my edit summary somehow implied that Korhonen should be moved to Korhonen (surname) -- it should not. What I meant is that I have added (to what is and remains a disambig page) an infobox and one-line description of the surname itself, until someone wants to export and expand that to a full article all about Korhonen (surname) -- because Korhonen would stay as the disambig page. HTH 62.147.62.25 (talk) 02:47, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think Korhonen alone could be confused for anything but the surname. If so, why not just set it as a WP:SETINDEX and be done with it? Something like Hernández is a good example. avs5221 (talk) 03:03, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


 * But Hernández is currently in the same state: it's just a bad disambig page, with only a one-liner about the name itself on top. I think a better example would be Smith, a disambig page linking to Smith (surname) where you have a full article about the surname alone. Or Wang and Wang (surname), etc.
 * Or, from your POV as a reader: let's imagine that someone expands the data about the surname "Korhonen" into a nice two-page article. If you clicked on Korhonen, either you wanted encyclopedic info about the surname (and then all the disambig stuff is garbage to you, you'd just want a dedicated article), or you were sent there by a bad link (and then all the encyclopedic surname stuff is garbage to you, you'd just want a clean disambig list so as to find the right Korhonen you were reading about).
 * Hope that's more clear. 62.147.62.25 (talk) 03:17, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Absolutely fair enough. I think the best structure would be a page called List of people with the surname Korhonen and the page Korhonen (surname) for the two page article you describe? Sound fair? avs5221 (talk) 03:24, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not so sure. I mean, I'm hardly authoritative on these matters, but I've looked into a load of disambig/surname pages as models so as to improve some Finnish surname pages, and it seems there are 3 levels of structure in use:
 * When you have a small number of people, not many other topics (like places, organizations, etc.), and only a stub-like one-liner about the surname itself, then you keep it all on a single disambig/surname page like Korhonen.
 * When the encyclopedic info about the surname has grown enough to be more than a useless stub, then a separate article like Korhonen (surname) can be carved from Korhonen to keep the latter a simple disambig page.
 * When the disambig page still has an astounding number of people, plus tons of other non-people items to disambiguate, like at Smith, then something like List of people with surname Smith is carved from it because it's too big by itself.
 * That's what it seems to me (and it also seems logical to wait for something to have demonstrated enough groth before being carved to its own article or list). Right now, Korhonen is barely at stage 1. I think there's no point in exporting its one-liner data to Korhonen (surname) because it's likely to stay a stub forever (due to lack of interest or English-speaking documentation about that name, second most-common Finnish surname that it is) -- only someone who is decided to expand it to at least one page of prose should do so, don't you think? For the same reasons, I don't see much use for List of people with surname Korhonen since that's already the function of the page Korhonen (where there is only a dozen of people, and zero other topics). I mean, if you split the current Korhonen between Korhonen (surname) and List of people with surname Korhonen, then there is nothing left at Korhonen but those two entries -- that not the same than Smith where there is still tons of material after they carved the surname and the list of people from it. 62.147.62.25 (talk) 03:52, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I would only do it for the sake of structure, since that seems the way it should be structured. I'd just make Korhonen a redirect to a list of names and leave it in that state. avs5221 (talk) 03:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I understand why for when the current page is enough for the task at hand. Sorry, I have to run (actually I should have gone one hour ago ^_^). 62.147.62.25 (talk) 04:20, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

igloo
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Extended Play (film)
I accepted the AFC for Extended Play (film); I noted your comment, but found Google Book hits that I think will assert N - I added one of them, and I'll tidy it up. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  20:21, 6 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Awesome. I had a feeling there was something more to it, I just wasn't finding much. Thanks for looking it over. avs5221 (talk) 20:26, 6 March 2010 (UTC)


 * No worries; that's one prolific IP'er, User_talk:12.196.37.227 :-o  Chzz  ►  20:29, 6 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Should create an IP barnstar for him. :P avs5221 (talk) 20:31, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Weltbühne Trial
Sorry, was just looking at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Weltbühne Trial; looks OK-ish, but I think I'd insist on a direct ref for the quote. Just a passing note.  Chzz  ►  20:34, 6 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, just finished with it. I made note of more sources and trying to actually work that quote into the article. Stand-alone quotes never quite look right, but sometimes it's the only way of including them. I also suggested he might just merge it to the subject's article. It was a one time event that had a much broader sustained impact on his life. I think the consequences of being sent to an interment camp might be better hashed out on the author's page rather than getting lost in a stand-alone article. avs5221 (talk) 20:40, 6 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Good stuff; quite interesting, really - I'm no expert on legal, but I'd guess the quote will be OK; it kinda does say where it is from in the body, but I think it just occurred to my GA-reviewing side, about all direct quotes needing a ref.  Chzz  ►  20:44, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

ACC
Please confirm that you made a request for an account in the ACC process. Thanks, Pmlineditor   ∞  06:05, 9 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Confirming my request for an account in ACC. avs5221 (talk) 06:49, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * And done. :) Pmlineditor   ∞  09:28, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Re. huggle q
 Chzz  ►  11:25, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

And...have a cuppa :-)

 Chzz  ►  11:40, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Red Rock Deli Potato Chips
At Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Red Rock Deli Potato Chips, you commented that the references were behind paywalls. Actually, they are free as long as your library has a subscription to the archive, as most libraries appear to, and even without access through the library, the preview usually gives enough information to confirm the validity of the reference. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 13:35, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * My apologies, I should have been clearer in my comments. My concern was accessibility as covered in WP:PAYWALL, but that burden has clearly been met. That said, I'd be curious as to your thoughts on notability. avs5221 (talk) 14:02, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the media coverage is enough to show notability. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 17:06, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Shahida_Azad_Jamaludin
Well hello there, sorry if i get this too direct, she is a Malaysian news presenter and tv personalities and that concede her importance or significance and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. Utusan is the most sell out newspaper in Malaysia thus verifiable the reliability. Would be ashamed seeing millions of her fan unseen her encyclopedia. Honestly i would like you to help me in this matter. Will wait your feedback. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jesyshore (talk • contribs) 07:01, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cologne Classical Ensemble
I have responded to your comment.--Carabinieri (talk) 18:38, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Airplaneman talk 18:57, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Adoption
Hello. I've just taken a look at your past 500 revisions, which look good in general. I see you are active in AFC; great! It also looks like you are a vandal fighter; we always welcome more. The only things I can suggest at first glance are that you try as much as possible to improve articles instead of just tagging them. It's my own opinion, of course, but I try to follow that philosophy. I'm not saying to find refs or make an article a Good Article, but instead of taking the time to tag for, say, wikification, you can do a quick copyedit yourself. That way, you have saved the time it would have taken to tag, and the article has actually improved. Other than that, try to use edit summaries 100% of the time. Everything else looks good; please feel free to ask questions and I'll do my best to answer. BTW, what criterion did you not meet for admin coaching? You seem experienced to me. Airplaneman talk 19:09, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Without looking, I was short on edit count and maybe time active? Thank you for taking a look at my revisions! I very much appreciate it. I've added the script/gadget to force a signature, so that problem should be resolved. And as far as editing....I know :( I've done that with a few AfC candidates. I did a lot of work on Judith Miller and Agility Logistics before they passed AfC, and I totally rewrote The Generating Company, a non-AfC article I stumbled across. I'd really appreciate feedback if you could take a look at those (I don't know if I'm any good at major copy-editing...my fiancee says I'm really good!). avs5221 (talk) 21:00, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds good! I'll take a look at the articles mentioned.
 * Judith Miller (antiques expert) is the Judith I assumed you worked on :). I fixed some things:
 * Needs bold title
 * External links formatted
 * Italicize TV show names, magazines, etc.
 * Ideally, the article should be categorized. WP:HOTCAT is a useful tool for the purpose. I'll categorize it (see very bottom of article)
 * Other comments:
 * Could use an infobox, in this case infobox person
 * List is quite long compared to prose; consider mentioning only the notable ones (an option)
 * Nice use of the cite template :)
 * Otherwise, a great stub or start-class article! Will do more later. Happy editing, Airplaneman  talk 00:04, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You can tell I don't edit articles very often...sigh, something I must improve. Sorry for the wrong link. Funny too, because it was horribly difficult at times finding links for the antiques expert and not the journalist. I think I got so caught up in referencing everything and protecting it from copyvio or WP:BIO, I forgot some of the simpler things. Especially the EL. I'm a little embarrassed by that one :( Thank you for your thoughts on the bibliography. I had no idea how to touch that one. I will continue to...polish that article. :D avs5221 (talk) 02:41, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Just looking through what you changed on the page, I think a big problem was I didn't look at the page quite enough after AfC. Things like, categories, bold title, EL, etc., are things I should have seen. I don't edit a lot, but I should see those mistakes. Thank you for putting a microscope on my work, it will make me more critical in the future. avs5221 (talk) 02:53, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Please don't be too hard on yourself :). Looks like you've only actively edited for 2-3 months; it took me about five to really get used to Wikipedia. is a preference thing, used on the majority (2/3) of wiki articles because it looks neater and cleaner the . Regards,  Airplaneman  talk 03:18, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I was taking a 4 year hiatus is all ;). I don't mean to be hard on myself, I just want to be a good editor. This is some of the first real feedback I've ever gotten, so I may be a little hard on myself at first. But for 3 months worth, I'm really happy to be involved in projects like AfC and vandalism. I'm really trying to contribute back to something I've used countless times. avs5221 (talk) 03:55, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds great! That's partly why I'm here too. I also just like it. As soon as wiki feels like a job or obligation, I'm outta here :). I'll just keep tabs on your contribs and try to give tips when I see the chance. Don't hesitate to ask any questions you may have. Airplaneman  talk 12:31, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Wonderful! Thank you. avs5221 (talk) 07:50, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Possible Vandalism by IP address 79.184.107.214
I was looking at the microsoft office article and I noticed that someone had changed the microsft office template so that when you clicked one of the links it would redirect you to the wikipedia article on spagetti. I went to the template and undid the change. How do I check to make sure no other articles have been changed this way. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.98.15.172 (talk) 20:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


 * If you're asking about the specific user, 79.184.107.214, then the best way is to check their contributions and see if any of them were vandalism. If you look at the left side of your window, there's a link to Special pages. Then look for User contributions under 'users and rights'. Input 79.184.107.214 and you can see if his activity was vandalism. Click diff for an easy way to see what changes he made (both of his edits are vandalism). Hope that helps! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Avs5221 (talk • contribs)
 * Don't forget to sign your comments :) Airplaneman  talk 00:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey-o! avs5221 (talk) 02:31, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

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Talkback
Airplaneman talk 20:52, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Bradjamesbrown (talk) 06:30, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Chan Chun Sing
Hi, I think I've got it right now. 116.88.228.195 (talk) 11:40, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Judge Robert Lamberton
Hi there, I have added as many links as I can find at the moment to the article. Possibly a photo or two will help too in due course. I had a look at another similar article at and it looks basic by comparison to my one --81.187.71.75 (talk) 14:31, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I should warn you that this editor is de-facto banned from Wikipedia, and therefore his contributions should be declined regardless of merit. Thank you. O Fenian (talk) 16:01, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I see that the above user or should I say abuser, continues to disrupt edits from this facility irrespective of who makes them. I believe the correct term is 'nuisance' when used in this case. Basically, my co-workers and myself have agreed to ignore this trouble maker. Thank you for taking the time to look at this. --81.187.71.75 (talk) 16:30, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up, O Fenian. Yikes. avs5221 (talk) 19:45, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Re. Codedon
Thanks for the heads-up re. .

I must admit, their comments have made me feel very depressed. I've answered as best I can;

User_talk:Codedon

Cheers,  Chzz  ►  06:39, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

iSelect
Replies posted and edits to page to address the concerns you raised [iSelect submission for review] 124.180.233.111 (talk) 04:30, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. Page restructured and more content added. I think it is now more comprehensive than an existing page it links to nib! If still not up to scratch for inclusion, happy for it to be deleted as I don't have much more to add to it 139.168.49.112 (talk) 15:46, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks a lot for helping me out. Im glad i can finally help out at wikipedia, I always thought the site's idea was interesting :) Hayanareslan (talk) 19:09, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

The Forgotten International
I would like to know what exactly is a relevant source. I know there are tons of descriptions on wiki what a relevant source is I just do not understand why exactly the sources I entered in the Articles for Creation/The Forgotten International aren't relevant in your opinion? Please explain, because all these sources are written by well know international organizations and posted as a public media content. Roadtrip nation interview was broadcasted on TV, aurora forum is an official press release not mentioning the Rotary Club. Please advise. Thank you. Trowie —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trowie (talk • contribs) 00:06, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, Trowie. I'll leave a brief explanation for each reference. Feel free to leave me a message here if you have other questions.
 * http://roadtripnation.com/ThomasNazario
 * Talks primarily about Thomas Nazario. The video itself is vague and the bio is very short. So in all, is this a relevant page to 'The Forgotten International'? It gives some info about Nazario, but that's all.
 * http://auroraforum.stanford.edu/event/global-solidarity-human-rights-and-end-poverty
 * Again, only a very brief bio about Nazario.
 * http://www.rfriberg.com/rotary/Rotary_Web_Site_Data/documents/12-5-07_000.pdf
 * Again, this would be fine for an article about Thomas Nazario, but it doesn't even mention Forgotten International.
 * You have some good sources for an article on Thomas Nazario, but not nearly enough for The Forgotten International. The quality of the sources is fine, but they can't be trivial mentions, as is the second article. avs5221 (talk) 10:42, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Question regarding an article nominated for speedy deletion
Why did you recommend my article "Nic Armstrong & the Thieves" for deletion? This band had been reviewed by National Public Radio on several occasions; futher, I found about 6 or 7 articles on Wikipedia that mention this band and/or its lead singer. I would thus argue that they are noteworthy. Cicero in utero (talk) 08:37, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think this has been sufficiently hashed out on the article's talk page. avs5221 (talk) 09:54, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Account Creator Request Declined
Your account creator request has been declined. Kindly do not apply again while you work on our project. You might be blocked or banned if you attempt so again. Thanks.   ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪    ―Œ  ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣  17:23, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * p.s: and it's lovely to have you on the project otherwise. I might be a day late for the April Fool's joke; but congratulations avs on getting the rights. See you later.   ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪    ―Œ  ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣  17:25, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, sir, won't happen again. avs5221 (talk) 18:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Congrats! I feel as if I am not helping my adoptees enough... but most of them are inactive, anyway. So, I'll think of something you might not have done... have you worked in article assessment? Airplaneman  ✈  23:09, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * And what do you think of me creating a classroom for my adoptees? Airplaneman   ✈  04:25, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I never saw this (not sure how *shrug*). I think a classroom would be a great idea. Let me know what you come up with :D avs5221 (talk) 09:02, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

AFC silviu ionescu
Hi Avs5221, I did some improvement to the AFC article. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Silviu_Ionescu and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Chzz#Articles_for_creation.2FSilviu_Ionescu. I would appreciate your further comments and feedback. Thank you Ronald2010 (talk) 08:48, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm looking over the article now. I'm not quite done, but please look at the article and let me know what you think. I'm also on IRC if you'd like to chat. avs5221 (talk) 10:05, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

The Interpol picture would be covered by copyright, but not owned by Interpol. It would be difficult to determine where the photo came from, so you will have to treat it as unknown copyright. May be able to use under fair use if the person is in hiding. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:15, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

(note, I am copying this over to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Silviu Ionescu to keep discussions in one place  Chzz  ►  13:22, 12 April 2010 (UTC))

Talkback
ww2censor (talk) 12:55, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Silviu Ionescu - Centralizing discussions
Please note I have moved the prospective article to Articles for creation/2009 Singapore Romanian diplomat incident

This frees up the page Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/2009 Singapore Romanian diplomat incident, where we can discuss developments.

This hopefully avoids the problems of the various discussions split over several user talk pages.

The page title was changed following discussions and concerns over WP:BLP1E - further discussion can continue on the talk page.

Best,  Chzz  ►  13:28, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

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Thank you for all your help! avs5221 (talk) 17:54, 12 April 2010 (UTC)




 * You are more then welcome. *SNAP*. Might i present you something well-earned as well? Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 18:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Michael P. Fay
Why is he notable enough? I think he is most notable in Singapore canning incident of 1993-94 and you don't do propose deletion. Try AFD instead. ApprenticeFan talk  contribs 02:43, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ avs5221 (talk) 09:00, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Image question
hello. i just wanted to upload an image to the wiki commons but it keeps on asking for a license. i actually asked the author's permission to use the picture.it just keeps on telling me 'You must give the original source of the file, the author of the work, and a license.' Can you please help me

Thanks, Hayanareslan (talk) 16:55, 14 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Take a look at Uploading images for information on uploading images with proper attribution. You need to have the author send an email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. avs5221 (talk) 22:09, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

1st section can't be edited
✅ avs5221 (talk) 16:53, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Pure Data Flow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Pure_Data_Flow

Hello, I was hoping to get some guidance. I tried submitting an article yesterday about a company that was declined by you for not having sources. I followed the format of a couple other software companies hoping it would be correct. As for sources, do I simply need to post references to the information on the companies websites? Or, do I need something more than that? The company is a Canadian corporation and I can provide proof of that, just not sure what needs to be done to get the information up. Thank you! NEMESIS4 (talk) 15:09, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Start off by taking a look at wp:rs for guidelines on reliable sources. In general, you cannot use self-published sources to create an article. Wikipedia requires independent, verifiable, third-party sources. That means news articles, tv reports, books, scholarly journals, etc. Is the company mentioned in the news? Are its products used and then talked about? Those are the kinds of sources for which we are looking. avs5221 (talk) 21:04, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Picture related question
Hi Avs5221, I am trying to figure out how to change the name of this picture frome File:Home-logo.png to File:Ohio Virtual Academy.png. When I go to that page there is no "move" tab on the top of the page. Is it impossible to rename file pages? Thanks --Alpha Quadrant (talk) 19:35, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Per WP:MOF: only "administrators can move pages in the file namespace." avs5221 (talk) 21:32, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

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Reviewers can review edits made by users who are not autoconfirmed to articles placed under flagged protection. Flagged protection is applied to only a small number of articles, similarly to how semi-protection is applied but in a more controlled way for the trial.

When reviewing, edits should be accepted if they are not obvious vandalism or BLP violations, and not clearly problematic in light of the reason given for protection (see Reviewing process). More detailed documentation and guidelines can be found here.

If you do not want this userright, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. Courcelles (talk) 03:23, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

looking for adoption
Hello, I am looking for someone to adopt me :) I have quite a challenge on my hands creating a historically referenced page on an existing Spa and Wellness centre. The issue, as you can imagine, is to not make it commercial, but focus on the history and the pertinence of this spa on the island of Koh Samui in Thailand, that has become a spiritual centre of holistic wellness spas. Can you help? Grimmbones (talk) 05:00, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Large Adoption backlog! Can you help?
-- Swarm Talk 06:02, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

(158621) 2003 BJ
Why do articles such as, just to pick the first one, (158621) 2003 BJ, still exist? If you see your first archive, we has a conversation about this and I thought they'd decided to put'm on a chart somewhere as they mock notablity guidelines. What happened to that? Chrisrus (talk) 05:28, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Looking for adoption
Hello. I am new here, so I do not know very well how to use Wikipedia. I am a student, and by the end of my school semester I have to write an article. Would you like to adopt me? :)VB (talk) 23:15, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

It wasn't me!
I got your message chastising me for vandalizing the AVID page. Sorry it happened, but it wasn't me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.62.201.31 (talk) 20:38, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Wasn't me either
I took a WP:WB and wasn't around in January. Hmm. avs5221(t&#124;c) 11:14, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Rhode Island Governors Template
Hello, I had been working on a Rhode Island governors template, and noticed you had come up with one for colonial governors. I've wanted a template that includes everyone from Roger Williams to Lincoln Chafee, so have created one. I've taken the liberty of changing out the templates for all the colonial governors, but do not plan to change out any of the state governors unless there is an impetus to do so. I just wanted to make sure the template included every one who is considered governor of Rhode Island, whether colonial or state. Hope this is all OK with you. Regards.Sarnold17 (talk) 23:40, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Notification
Hey, just a friendly note I decided to accept a redirect request you previously declined here. Yoenit (talk) 13:09, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * No worries, my only worry with it is it can be a semi-common surname/nickname, perhaps easily confused with Bubba, especially as it can be an easy typo. But, hey. Thanks for letting me know. avs5221(t&#124;c) 13:18, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Flixya Page
Hi,

Thanks for reviewing the page!

Could you help me editing the article so it no longer appears to be an advertisement.

I appreciate your help! Thanks in advance!

Best regards SocialHope (talk) 08:07, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Sure, why don't you join our IRC page or send me a message here if you want to talk. avs5221(t&#124;c) 08:18, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm going in circles-- I thought I left you a message but it seems to be on my talk page...
Hi before I give up in despair I'd like to mention the following there are 38 theatre groups in the Wikipedia category community theatre I didn't look at them all but I looked at a random selection, namely:

Avon Players Footlight Club Georgetown Little Theatre Heller Theatre Lakeshore Players Community Theater San Mateo Community Theatre Shadowland Theatre Venice Theatre Villagers Theatre Walk the Plank (theatre company) Winneshiek Players

All of them are small theatre groups who primarily or solely reference their own websites for information, which is to be expected since no community theatre groups would expect broad internet coverage. The information about the groups would naturally reside within the groups' paper archives. This does not diminish their significance within their city. Titirangi Theatre for example has existed since 1935 and has been referenced in many local history publications and newspaper items which are not online. It must have been accepted that Community Theatre warranted its own category, otherwise the category would not exist. I would be very dismayed to think that the article on Titirangi Theatre was been assessed by different criteria from the other 38 community theatre groups. perhaps you could put this article forward somewhere for discussion? regards Macsnapper Macsnapper (talk) 08:37, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Please don't despair or give up. This is a community project and articles are meant to grow. The point I was trying to convey was that generic links, such as show times, etc. are not enough to establish the notability of the theatre. There are several ways to proceed. You can find additional sources, if available, or you can create the page in the mainspace yourself and see if it is nominated for speedy deletion. Please see WP:ORG and seriously consider if your theatre meets those guidelines for notability. avs5221(t&#124;c) 08:50, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for you response
I don't quite get the talkback process yet, but no doubt I will one day :) Thank you for your response re Titirangi Theatre. Depending on what I find when I read the WP:ORG guidelines I may put the aticle in the mainspace and then add references as I track them down or try it the other way round thanks again and keep up the good work Macsnapper Macsnapper (talk) 09:17, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * It'd be preferable to keep it in articles for creation until sufficient sources are available, otherwise you risk getting the page deleted, which may make it more difficult to add in the future. I know where you're coming from, so don't fret. Remember, try everything you can, such as local newspapers, performing arts associations in the area, etc. Notability should not be a hindrance to creating an article, but rather a measuring stick to ensure you're article has a sufficient foundation upon which to grow. avs5221(t&#124;c) 09:22, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!
I am signed in as "Hope" on the chat channel. Can you guide to improve the article and make more "encyclopedic". — Preceding unsigned comment added by SocialHope (talk • contribs) 13:18, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't see you. I may have mistyped the address above. Make sure it is irc.freenode.net channel #wikipedia-en-afc. avs5221(t&#124;c) 13:26, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Lets try to chat
I am logged in: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=wikipedia-en-help#

as "Hope". Thanks once again!

203.101.166.114 (talk) 19:18, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Make It Work wiki
Hi,

Thanks for reviewing my submission for Make It Work, Inc. I was wondering if you had any suggestion as to how I could improve the article and get it approved. I cited several sources, so I'm not sure what else I can do to make it notable.

Any feedback is appreciated!

Thanks, Danielle — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shabu262 (talk • contribs) 00:19, 31 March 2011 (UTC)


 * There are a few problems that I can see. Setting the advertising problem aside for the moment, you first need to address your sources. For instance, this and this are fine articles, but the NYT article only talks to Greenspan and is really more of a generic article about entrepreneurship rather than Make It Work, Inc. The Noozhawk source is much better, in that it speaks about the company, until you consider this quote, taken from the organization notability page: "other works in which the company, corporation, organization, or group talks about itself—whether published by the company, corporation, organization, or group itself, or re-printed by other people." The rest of the sources seem to fit this category, also from WP:ORG: "that extends well beyond routine announcements and makes it possible to write more than a very brief, incomplete stub about an organization."


 * If you take that all into consideration along with my comments about advertising, the best course of action would be to find more suitable sources. If you can do that, you should be able to find more information that can help attest to the company's notability while filing out an entire article.


 * Hope that is of some help. If you still want to talk, leave me a message here or join us on IRC. Cheers, avs5221(t&#124;c) 07:34, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! I reviewed your comments and re-submitted. I added many more links and removed anything I couldn't verify. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shabu262 (talk • contribs) 18:07, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Bendigo Pottery
Hello

My name is Susan Nicholls, I am a recently appointed employee of the National Museum of Australia in Canberra. I've been tasked with increasing community knowledge of Australian history and culture by contributing additions to WP articles and creating new ones about materials in our collection. I've been warned very strictly about not "marketing" the NMA and have no wish to do so!

Having introduced myself, I'd like to thank you for your very prompt response to my proposed article on the Bendigo Pottery. It's true I did get most of the information I included from the NMA webpages about the pottery, but I was mainly seeking review of the content and appropriateness of the article for Wikipedia. We are in the process of confirming donation of all our content, but in the meantime, assuming the content is donated, is this the kind of content you're looking for?

Any further advice you think I need to hear will be greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

All the best, Susan Susan+49 (talk) 23:19, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Colonial RI governors template
Hello again, AVS--would you mind if I merged my "Rhode Island Colonial and State Governors" template into your "Colonial Rhode Island Governors" template? I'll get rid of the list of state governors (that template already exists), and then we'll have a single template for all the colonial magistrates and one for all the state governors. Here's the template: Colonial and State Governors of Rhode Island

Thanks.Sarnold17 (talk) 22:39, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Huyton Hill
You recently declined Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Huyton Hill Preparatory School on the basis of speedy deletion criterion A7, however, A7 does not apply to schools. I'm curious how you found it relevant in this case. Elizium23 (talk) 13:22, 26 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I declined an AfC article based on WP:CORP, not A7. The review template makes note of A7, yes, but it also notes corporate notability, under which schools are a subsection. In regards to relevance, it was primarily based on the included sources and content of the article. In my opinion, the school lacks the necessary secondary sources to establish notability and therefore inclusion to Wikipedia. I believe the AfC template included in the talkpage sufficiently explains this to the original editor. I apologize if I was unclear. avs5221(t&#124;c) 13:30, 26 June 2011 (UTC)


 * PS - I noticed your conversations with the OP. I do apologize if I treaded on a continuing project. Maybe it would be best to ask the author to move the page to his talkspace so he may edit at his own pace? But as I said, it sorely needs secondary sources. Maybe I'm missing something, but the article lacks...girth. avs5221(t&#124;c) 13:36, 26 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I understand, and it's ok that you reviewed and declined it. I am not much of a reviewer yet, as you can see. And I certainly agree the article needs more sources. Elizium23 (talk) 13:45, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

RI Governors
Hi, and thanks for your interest. Yes, I first expanded your template to create this:

Later, I discovered material on the Deputy/lieutenant Governors, so I expanded the original idea to create this template:

Now I'm trying to upgrade all the articles of the people on the templates. It will take some time, but I'm making progress. Thanks again for touching base.Sarnold17 (talk) 17:33, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Review of Huyton Hill Preparatory School
I have left a reply to your review in My Talk. I will add text to the article to emphasise its relevence and hope that you will reconsider your review. Thanks for your feedback. GordonD (talk) 20:22, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Heroes & Generals
Reto.KenSolo (talk) 13:49, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

I did not create...
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Legend of Omar, even though you left me a message on my talkpage that I did here. The actual creator of this AfC was User:Omar Coffee(talk)/Omar Coffee contributions. I did not create this article, only making some edits to the article in the course of helping this editor in IRC-Help. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 03:29, 27 June 2011 (UTC)


 * A review script sent it to you. Apologies. avs5221(t&#124;c) 08:55, 27 June 2011 (UTC)


 * No worries, just wanted you to know. Cheers, Shearonink (talk) 03:06, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

George Holloway
I have forwarded an article on George Holloway 4 times now and each time it gets turned down for the same reason. I have continually added info, links and a ref, but still no joy. What does a guy need to do to get this guy mentioned on Wiki. Please explain to me in a little more detail what is required. Thanks Darrell Webb — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darrellw100 (talk • contribs) 12:42, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Darrell,


 * I'm sorry your article keeps getting declined on AfC. Let me see if I can provide some information so you can work to improve your article.


 * First thing fist, the article needs to be wikified. This means adding: a distinguishable lede, or introductory paragraph; section headings, such as early life, publications, death; and other finer details such as links. These will all visually improve the legibility of the article. Much more in-depth information can be found it the Wikipedia Manual of Style. Make sure to go slowly and not get overwhelmed. Ask an experienced editor for help if you have questions.
 * You need to add inline citations so editors/readers can verify the article's information (see point 4 for examples of text needing attribution). This can be challenging, so see referencing for beginners for additional help. Quotations always require citations.
 * Other Manual of Style corrections, such as italics for book titles, punctuation issues, etc. This may be better left to an experienced editor, but now is a great time to learn! Try your best and ask questions.
 * This is the crux of the issue: reliable sources. As it stands at the moment, you have one source. In most cases, it is inappropriate to cite an entire article using one source. Articles need attribution. Can your article not proceed forward with only one source? Not necessarily, but editors try to improve upon an article as much as possible before moving it out of AfC. But grand claims such as "the man who brought sewing machines and ready-to-wear clothing to England" and "the first to offer disability insurance in the UK" need to be referenced since they are likely to be challenged.


 * I hope this helps. If you have any other questions or want help tweaking your article, please don't hesitate to leave me another message here. I'd be more than happy to lend a hand. avs5221(talk&#124;contrib) 13:23, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * PS: Don't forget to sign your edits with ~.

Help! S.O.S.
Dear Sir, I am trying to place a legitimate encyclopedia entry into the Wikipedia website. The information that I intend to pass along proclaims the importance of a specific massage school in Baltimore that is notable because of its recognized singularity. What information would make this article more suitable and appropriate for your website? What is the difference between my entry and other massage school entries such as the National Holistic Institute and Northwestern Health Sciences University? I need some level of advice and encouragement. Please help me, kind sir. Help me, and I shall surely appreciate you for it. (Mbernsten (talk) 16:06, 30 June 2011 (UTC))

Talkback
 Puffin  ''Lets talk! 16:17, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

UNEP OzonAction
Hi, I've added some reliable third party sources to the article. Sanjpereza (talk) 17:44, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation
 You recently made a submission to Articles for Creation. Your article has been reviewed and because some issues were found, it could not be accepted in its current form; it is now located at Wikipedia&. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer. Feel free to edit the submission to address the issues raised, and resubmit once you feel they have been resolved. (You can do this by adding the text to the top of the article.) Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! avs5221(talk&#124;contrib) 17:56, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Please Review My work
Hi, Thanks for your first review and suggestion ,I've made certain changes and taken utmost care to look like neutral view and avoided unaccepted words. plz check it again http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Jenna_Pietersen

About my reference though I have added another famous reference sports illustrated magazine link but i think i have done little mistake in adding that.can you plz help me with that. Thanks Best Regards Satyakam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Satyakampradhan (talk • contribs) 18:33, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Worthy of inclusion?
Hi, Can you suggest why this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Ben_Rhydding_Hockey_Club cannot be included, when this page, for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beeston_hockey_club can?

Mrmoosehead (talk) 11:44, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Please understand I'm just an editor; I don't review, nor am I aware of, every article on Wikipedia. A sysop just ran across the article and tagged it as unreferenced, so hopefully someone can clean it up. That said, it is underdeveloped and may be deleted.
 * Your article is well written, but as I mentioned in my review, it does not have enough sources currently. If it made it to the mainspace, it'd be similarly tagged and likely deleted. Since you submitted it to AfC, I tried to provide feedback so you may correct these deficiencies before placing it in the mainspace. Please don't turn this into a competition or try to compare it other articles. AfC exists to help editors review and expand upon their articles, not diminish their work.


 * If you can add more sources, I'm sure the article would be fine for inclusion. If you need any help, please let me know.


 * avs5221(talk&#124;contrib) 12:04, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, not trying to make it a competition, just trying to find an article to compare to to understand why the BRHC one shouldn't be included. Still don't see why not, compared to many others. Anyway, have added some more citations and trying to gather some more information to add to make it more notable. But personally, I think a long standing club like this is already notable. Thanks for your time. Mrmoosehead (talk) 16:20, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Submission for Jacki Zehner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nsg2)
Hi there,

I understand that you reviewed my submission for Jacki Zehner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nsg2) and it was not accepted because it "composed mainly of copyrighted information". This is something I don't understand because information about Jacki is itself about her and her experience. I included references to other places where her experience and background are also described but only in the context of explaining who she is. I am at a loss as to how to re-submit this. Would you just suggest that I remove most of the links that I had inserted? I would very much appreciate your advice and guidance in order to improve my submission and have it posted.

With thanks,

Nina Nsg2 (talk) 17:16, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Just following up on my note above. Would appreciate any guidance you can offer on how to move my submission forward!

Thank you.

Nsg2 (talk) 18:26, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Matthew_Griswold
Greetings! I'm trying to work through the completely disastrous AFC backlog right now and noticed that you flagged the above AFC as "being reviewed" about 5 days ago. Is it safe to assume that you are not currently reviewing it? I see no activity from you on the article since then. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡ bomb 21:10, 7 July 2011 (UTC)