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 * @Tartan357 OK, got it, thank you. Awam King (talk) 05:47, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi @Tartan357.
 * I just want to ask you about the difference between the file below and the one ( image of Rashad al-Alimi) I have uploaded days ago in terms of copyright. Thank you.
 * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Saleh_Al_Sammad_(cropped).png Awam King (talk) 02:46, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * This YouTube video is marked with "Creative Commons Attribution license (reuse allowed)" in the description. The one you uploaded was not. ― Tartan357  Talk 04:00, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

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Bios
Ok, here it goes: Does that help? Please ask questions. Here's good.  Schwede 66  10:28, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * For biographies, you need to define WP:DEFAULTSORT. This ensures that in categories, the entries are sorted by surname rather than given name. I assume that in "al-Aqili", the "al" bit is part of the surname. Correct? If so, this is how it's done.
 * Check links when you've written something (Amran linked to a disambiguation page)
 * Important: for living people, you must provide a reference for the birth date (or year). If it's unreferenced, the date (or year) must be removed. Looking at the sources in Google translate, I assume that it's unreferenced.
 * I guess the biggest weakness of your articles is that they are all extremely short. Or this at least applies to the articles that I have seen.
 * The other general weakness that I've seen thus far is that referencing is a bit thin. One reference for a bio, for example, is clearly not good enough.


 * thanks dear @Schwede66.
 * That's very helpful.
 * Of course I still need your help, so I will ask you whenever i get a problem or questions.
 * Thanks Awam King (talk) 20:10, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Please do. If you want, I can cast my eye over your next articles.  Schwede 66  20:51, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I have applied your comments and made edits to the three following articles. Can you please review them?
 * -Ibrahim Haidan
 * -Sultan al-Barakani
 * -Faraj Salmin Al-Buhsani
 * Also give me your opinion about these articles;
 * -Sagheer Hamoud Aziz
 * -Mohsen Mohammed Al-Daeri
 * -Abdullah al-Alimi Bawazeer
 * -Ministry of Defense (Yemen)
 * -Ministry of Interior (Yemen)
 * Of course I have created all above articles.
 * Thanks Awam King (talk) 20:59, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi dear @Schwede66
 * for the information you changed to in this link
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sultan_al-Barakani&diff=prev&oldid=1113927634 Awam King (talk) 22:50, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've had a go at the first two bios. With the second one (Sultan al-Barakani), the source gives a different place of birth than what you had. Please check. I could not work out why reference #3 (the parliamentary bio) has an author; can you please check why that is there and if it is correct, please show the author in Latin script. And as I said earlier, as per WP:DOB, you must not show a date of birth if you haven't got a reliable secondary source that confirms it; I have removed day and month from the al-Barakani bio as only the year is referenced. Can I suggest that you have a go at the third bio? I've bookmarked it and will "look over your shoulder". I'll give you feedback once you are done, and will then move onto the other articles.  Schwede 66  22:52, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * His birthplace was in Taiz, not in Sana'a, and thie source was wrong in this information.
 * Here is a reliable source alaraby.co.uk Awam King (talk) 22:56, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Now you know how to do it, I suggest you amend the article accordingly. :-)  Schwede 66  23:01, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, i did it. Thanks :-) Awam King (talk) 23:35, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I added a new official reliable reference and updated his birthplace and brith date. Same district and date of the reference #4, previously reference #3. Awam King (talk) 01:28, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Were you trying to say "thank you"? Not sure what you are saying.  Schwede 66  22:53, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, trying to say thank you. Awam King (talk) 22:54, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It's wrong.
 * His birthplace was in Taiz, not in Sana'a, and thie source was wrong in this information.
 * Here is a reliable source alaraby.co.uk Awam King (talk) 22:53, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Please have a read of MOS:DATEFORMAT before you edit Faraj Salmin Al-Buhsani.  Schwede 66  23:05, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I've now reviewed all the above articles. One more issue that I spotted is that there are categories added to talk pages. Those need to be removed; it is the various project tags that place the talk pages into various categories. Everything is automated; no human intervention is ever required.  Schwede 66  06:05, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ok Awam King (talk) 20:04, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * you mean like categories here in this page Talk:Sultan al-Barakani? Awam King (talk) 20:47, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * No. What you see on that talk page are all categories automatically created by the project tags. What I mean is that I've come across several pages where categories had been added manually. When you have the page open in edit mode, you can see that there aren't any categories on that page. I've removed some talk page categories in this example.  Schwede 66  01:31, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, i really noticed that. Awam King (talk) 01:36, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Sagheer Hamoud Aziz
Cool. Please have a go at Sagheer Hamoud Aziz now. Do you think you've learned a couple of things?  Schwede 66  02:25, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course, i have learned a lot of things.
 * Thanks Awam King (talk) 02:34, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Looking good! If you want to improve it further, convert the two bulleted lists to prose as per MOS:USEPROSE. Once done, the article is in good shape and the only other potential improvement is to expand it.  Schwede 66  06:29, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure, but let us continue editing other articles now and then get back to improve this article. Awam King (talk) 19:21, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Other articles
I have also edited these two articles now:
 * Mohsen Mohammed Al-Daeri
 * I've tagged the article for outstanding maintenance. In addition, please define DEFAULTSORT and provide  in the references.  Schwede  66  01:53, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Ahmed al-Maisari Awam King (talk) 20:02, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * is a somewhat surprising link; I'd say it meets the definition of WP:EASTEREGG (which should be avoided). Maybe say it like so? "He is the former Interior Minister of the Cabinet of Yemen, the Yemeni government that is internationally-recognized." In addition, please provide  in the references.  Schwede  66  02:00, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

and these:
 * Nasser al-Dhaibani
 * Please have a look at MOS:DATERANGE. If the endash needs to be spaced, it needs to be spaced on both sides. 1968- 3 December 2021 is wrong on two fronts: you need an endash (not a hyphen) for date ranges, and it needs to be spaced (because one of the dates has spaces in it). It should look like so: 1968 – 3 December 2021.  Schwede 66  02:08, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Ameen Ali al-Akimi Awam King (talk) 21:11, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

I have created this new article Mohammed Al-Hadhrami Awam King (talk) 00:41, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I reviewed this one earlier today.  Schwede 66  02:11, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Forgot to tell you that I also created Portal:Yemen. Took a lot of time and effort. Awam King (talk) 20:10, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I can't say that I've ever looked at a Portal, so wouldn't know the first thing about those.  Schwede 66  02:11, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Defaultsort
I was having second thoughts about. Not being an Arabic-speaker, I wondered what the function of "al" is in surnames. My hunch was right and it needs to be omitted for indexing: Manual of Style/Arabic. There's in fact a current discussion about updating the guidance; what you are looking at is the status as of three days ago. So, Mohsen Mohammed Al-Daeri needs to be sorted as such:. Can you please go back through your bios and either update the indexing, or define this for the first time (as it's still often missing)?  Schwede 66  01:49, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Awam King (talk) 03:42, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * people use Al with their surenames to refer to the family or tribe they belong to and to distinguish it from a common proper name. For example al-Bakri and Bakri, when we use the first "al-bakri" as a last name it means the family or tribe they belong to. When we use Bakri as a surename it may be confusing as it can refer to a proper name (can be father/grandfather) or a tribe/family. But in most cases we can use surenames without al. Awam King (talk) 03:47, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * people use Al with their surenames to refer to the family or tribe they belong to and to distinguish it from a common proper name. For example al-Bakri and Bakri, when we use the first "al-bakri" as a last name it means the family or tribe they belong to. When we use Bakri as a surename it may be confusing as it can refer to a proper name (can be father/grandfather) or a tribe/family. But in most cases we can use surenames without al. Awam King (talk) 03:47, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Categories
To maintain categories, I suggest you turn on HotCat in your preferences. HotCat explains what you need to do. It's much better to use HotCat than to do these things manually as it shows you while editing whether you have the category name right. If you do want to do this manually, please note that the stub tag goes last, preceded by two empty lines.  Schwede 66  23:30, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * ok, got it, thanks. Will use it. Awam King (talk) 23:39, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Two new articles
Today i created two new articles; Basindawa Cabinet and Bahah Cabinet.

I have also fixed old articles I created. Fixed ( DEFAULTSORT), (Dateformat), (dash), (short description)... Awam King (talk) 03:10, 7 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Great! I've reviewed Basindawa Cabinet and I suggest you make the equivalent edits to the other one.  Schwede 66  04:49, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I think it is done :-) Awam King (talk) 04:59, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

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 * ok Awam King (talk) 19:48, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I already added a new reference Awam King (talk) 19:56, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

My contribution
Hi User:Schwede66 Hope you doing good. I just wanna know how do you find my contributions to the Wikipedia recently. Thanks Awam King (talk) 02:10, 12 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Much improved! Not consistent enough for autopatrolled, in case that's the background to your question. I pinged you from a DYK nomination page the other day; have you had a chance to look at that yet?  Schwede 66  02:54, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Nope, I don't mean that. Not care anymore about autopatrolled.
 * Helping to improve Yemen related articles and information as much as possible is what i really care. What i mean by question is that i have created many articles on Yemeni governments.
 * Thanks Awam King (talk) 03:19, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Not yet, but Will look at it today. Awam King (talk) 03:52, 12 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Really appreciate this. Will try to do more and better.
 * Thanks again Awam King (talk) 00:50, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Regarding some sources
As you pointed out at my DYK nomination, there are now two Shura Councils. Could you point me towards any sources for the Sana'a/Houthi one? If you can't, no problem, but if you can I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks. Duonaut(talk &#124; contribs) 22:44, 13 October 2022 (UTC)


 * This is website of Houthi-controlled shura council in Sana'a:
 * https://shoora.gov.ye/2022/10/13/%d8%b1%d8%a6%d9%8a%d8%b3-%d9%85%d8%ac%d9%84%d8%b3-%d8%a7%d9%84%d8%b4%d9%88%d8%b1%d9%89-%d9%8a%d9%87%d9%86%d8%a6-%d9%82%d8%a7%d8%a6%d8%af-%d8%a7%d9%84%d8%ab%d9%88%d8%b1%d8%a9-%d9%88%d8%b1%d8%a6%d9%8a/
 * and this is the official account of the shura council of the legitimate government of Yemen on twitter:
 * https://twitter.com/YemShura
 * here are other sources on the council affiliated with with the yemeni government:
 * -https://www.aa.com.tr/ar/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%89-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%85%D9%86%D9%8A-%D9%8A%D8%B9%D9%82%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%B9%D9%87-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%88%D9%84-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B6/2116860
 * -https://www.aa.com.tr/ar/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%85%D9%86-%D9%87%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%8A-%D9%8A%D8%B9%D9%8A%D9%86-%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%A8%D8%A7-%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%A7-%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%A6%D9%8A%D8%B3%D8%A7-%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AC%D9%84%D8%B3-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%89/2111762
 * let me know if you need more. Awam King (talk) 00:47, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, much appreciated. Duonaut(talk &#124; contribs) 22:14, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

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Hubert Jäger moved to draftspace
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Being an ambassador didn't automatically confer notability per WP:NPOL. If there are more references or material demonstrating notability it should be added to the article. &maltese; SunDawn &maltese;    (contact)   02:43, 21 October 2022 (UTC)


 * - https://a24now.com/2021/10/eu-mission-arrives-in-aden-to-help-progress-peace-efforts-and-end-the-war/
 * -http://en.adenpress.news/Mnews/35680
 * -https://en.ypagency.net/267593/
 * -https://www.habertusba.com/al-jaber-discusses-with-the-german-ambassador-to-yemen-the-kingdoms-peacekeeping-efforts/?amp
 * I think I am a journalist and know well what you are talking about.
 * Are these references enough or u need more? Awam King (talk) 03:42, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

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