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Could you have a look at this DS issue?
Hello Awilley. Season's greetings.

There's an editor who has repeatedly violated the 24-hour BRD sanction at the Racial Views of Donald Trump article. The same editor has been making problematic edits at other BLP and Politics-related articles. I opened a thread at the user's talk page here trying to explain the problem and asking for them to correct it, but this does not seem to be sinking in. Next time you have a chance, could you have a look and do as you see fit? I'm not inclined to file an AE complaint, but the behavior does need to stop. Thanks. SPECIFICO talk 19:26, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry I missed you. (Traveling) It looks like you got this resolved in a different way at SPI. ~Awilley (talk) 23:38, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * All's well thanks for the note. SPECIFICO talk 00:39, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions topic area changes
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Additionally any Article probation topics not already revoked are proposed for revocation.

Community feedback is invited and welcome at Arbitration/Requests/Motions. --Barkeep49 (talk) 16:59, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

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New administrator activity requirement
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Happy Ninth Adminship Anniversary!
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Update: Phase II of DS reform now open for comment
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Arbitration enforcement action appeal, notification
Hi, This is notification of my appeal. You were the enforcing admin. FYI we briefly discussed it over a year ago. Regards, -- Yae4 (talk) 12:07, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

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1RR, not quite working out
A 1RR DS for Hunter Biden laptop controversy isn't really working. We've got roughly the same number of editors on opposite sides of an argument, merely reverting each other. Editor-A adds something; Editor-B reverts it; Editor-C re-adds it; Editor-D reverts it; etc etc. A 1-month protection for the page, would've been best. GoodDay (talk) 22:36, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

I doubt 24-hrs will do. If not 1-month, then why not 2-weeks. GoodDay (talk) 22:57, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for stepping in. I was thinking something a bit longer term than a day, as the dispute immediately reignited after the last protection expired. I think more along the lines of three days or a week. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:54, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * A month would've been best. But, I think 2-weeks would've sufficed. GoodDay (talk) 22:57, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I tried to reply yesterday but my edit got lost in an edit conflict and I was on mobile in the car so I gave up.
 * A month of full protection on an unstable article with this much traffic isn't an option in my book. I still think the best option would be for you to follow the advice I left on TFD's talk page: to work with your opponents to find a compromise. That would make protection unnecessary. ~Awilley (talk) 15:39, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello Awilley. If an editor pinged editors to a talkpage discussion (editor's who've already chimed in on that talkpage, in recent days on same topic), to ask them if they'll support that editor's edit to the page. Would that be considered canvassing? -- GoodDay (talk) 03:13, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

PS: When the page protection expires. You'll know (via page history) which editor or editors, will soon re-add the dispute tag. GoodDay (talk) 19:12, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at the church main article
I'd like to say I'm surprised, but I'm not. I knew that as soon as the recent rfc regarding capitalization ended in favor of lower case "the", the name of the article itself would be challenged based on that result (despite the arguments in the rfc that the two were completely separate and distinct situations that had nothing to do with each other). Anyways, just wanted to make sure someone else was aware as I'm likely to be out of communications for a couple of days due to an unexpected medical situation. --FyzixFighter (talk) 02:27, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2023
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Arbitration
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 * The 2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review has concluded with many changes to the discretionary sanctions procedure including a change of the name to "contentious topics". The changes are being implemented over the coming month.
 * The arbitration case Stephen has been closed.

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Hello Awilley. Here's something odd: The talk page template for the 24-hour BRD restriction has been changed to a new version that IMO is not as clear and easily observed for most users. I'm pretty sure I don't need to tell you why, but for anyone else who reads this, the former version was worded in terms of each editor's own actions, which are known and controlled by them. It said more or less, if your edit is reverted do this and this. The new version says "observe BRD" -- which takes the user link-hopping eventually to a page that says BRD is optional and ties to the CONSENSUS page, which is very broad and does not give the kind of brief instrumental instruction that the former 24-BRD template presented. The former template simply told editors what to do in order to comply. The new one is a head scratcher, especially since any infractions may be (sometimes unintentionally) from less experienced editors. I have no idea how templates work, who edits them etc. and I was hoping that with your Admin and software chops you might agree with me and propose to the appropriate person that we return to the former wording for this very effective page restriction. SPECIFICO talk 15:32, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The template was probably changed to match the new wording proposed by Arbcom. I'll have a look and see what if anything can be done. ~Awilley (talk) 16:31, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I don't recall any discussion of this revision during the review process. This restriction works very well on the most contentious pages, Trump among others. It would be a real loss if it were not well understood or less widely applied vs. the more onerous and less effective restrictions. SPECIFICO talk 16:44, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2023).

Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Following an RfC, the administrator policy now requires that prior written consent be gained from the Arbitration Committee to mark a block as only appealable to the committee.
 * Following a community discussion, consensus has been found to impose the extended-confirmed restriction over the topic areas of Armenia and Azerbaijan and Kurds and Kurdistan.

Technical news
 * The Vector 2022 skin has become the default for desktop users of the English Wikipedia.

Arbitration Miscellaneous
 * The arbitration case Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 24 February 2023.
 * In December, the contentious topics procedure was adopted which replaces the former discretionary sanctions system. The contentious topics procedure is now in effect following an initial implementation period. There is a detailed summary of the changes and administrator instructions for the new procedure. The arbitration clerk team are taking suggestions, concerns, and unresolved questions about this new system at their noticeboard.
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Administrators' newsletter – March 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2023).

Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Following a request for comment, F10 (useless non-media files) has been deprecated.
 * Following a request for comment, the Portal CSD criteria (P1 (portal subject to CSD as an article) and P2 (underpopulated portal)) have been deprecated.
 * A request for comment is open to discuss making the closing instructions for the requested moves process a guideline.

Technical news
 * The results of the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey have been posted.

Arbitration
 * Remedy 11 ("Request for Comment") of the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been rescinded.
 * The proposed decision for the Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case is expected 7 March 2023.
 * A case related to the Holocaust in Poland is expected to be opened soon.

Miscellaneous
 * The 2023 appointees for the Ombuds commission are AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, JJMC89, MdsShakil, Minorax and Renvoy as regular members and Zabe as advisory members.
 * Following the 2023 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Mykola7, Superpes15, and Xaosflux.
 * The Terms of Use update cycle has started, which includes a [p]roposal for better addressing undisclosed paid editing. Feedback is being accepted until 24 April 2023.

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Good article reassessment for Baháʼu'lláh
Baháʼu'lláh has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Unpicked6291 (talk) 21:07, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2023).

Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * A community RfC is open to discuss whether reports primarily involving gender-related disputes or controversies should be referred to the Arbitration enforcement noticeboard.

Technical news
 * Some older web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis starting this week. This mainly affects users of Internet Explorer 11.
 * The rollback of Vector 2022 RfC has found no consensus to rollback to Vector legacy, but has found rough consensus to disable "limited width" mode by default.
 * A link to the user's page will now appear in the subtitle links shown on . This was voted #17 in the Community Wishlist Survey 2023.

Arbitration
 * The Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case has been closed.
 * A case about World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been opened, with the first evidence phase closing 6 April 2023.

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2023).

Administrator changes
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CheckUser changes
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Oversighter changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * A request for comment about removing administrative privileges in specified situations is open for feedback.

Technical news
 * Progress has started on the Page Triage improvement project. This is to address the concerns raised by the community in their 2022 WMF letter that requested improvements be made to the tool.

Arbitration
 * The proposed decision in the World War II and the history of Jews in Poland case is expected 11 May 2023.

Miscellaneous
 * The Wikimedia Foundation annual plan 2023-2024 draft is open for comment and input through May 19. The final plan will be published in July 2023.

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Administrators' newsletter – June 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2023).

Administrator changes
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CheckUser changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Following an RfC, editors indefinitely site-banned by community consensus will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
 * As a part of the Wikimedia Foundation's IP Masking project, a new policy has been created that governs the access to temporary account IP addresses. An associated FAQ has been created and individual communities can increase the requirements to view temporary account IP addresses.

Technical news
 * Bot operators and tool maintainers should schedule time in the coming months to test and update their tools for the effects of IP masking. IP masking will not be deployed to any content wiki until at least October 2023 and is unlikely to be deployed to the English Wikipedia until some time in 2024.

Arbitration
 * The arbitration case World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been closed. The topic area of Polish history during World War II (1933-1945) and the history of Jews in Poland is subject to a "reliable source consensus-required" contentious topic restriction.

Miscellaneous
 * Following a community referendum, the arbitration policy has been modified to remove the ability for users to appeal remedies to.

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2023).



Administrator changes
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 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Deckiller · Electionworld · MBisanz · Penwhale · Raul654 · Roadrunner · Viridae · Yannismarou

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Guideline and policy news
 * Contributions to the English Wikipedia are now released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License (CC BY-SA 4.0) license instead of CC BY-SA 3.0. Contributions are still also released under the GFDL license.

Technical news
 * Discussion is open regarding a proposed global policy regarding third-party resources. Third-party resources are computer resources that reside outside of Wikimedia production websites.

Arbitration
 * Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the Scottywong case and 9 July 2023 for the AlisonW case.

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Administrators' newsletter – August 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).



Administrator changes
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 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg AlisonW · Amberrock · Closedmouth · Scottywong

Interface administrator changes
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Technical news
 * The tag filter on Special:NewPages and revision history pages can now be inverted. This allows hiding edits made by automated tools.
 * Special:BlockedExternalDomains is a new tool that allows easier blocking of plain domains (and their subdomains). This is more easily searchable and is faster for the software to use than the existing MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. It does not support regex (for complex cases), URL path-matching, or the MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist.

Arbitration
 * The arbitration cases named Scottywong and AlisonW closed 10 July and 16 July respectively.
 * The SmallCat dispute arbitration case is in the workshop phase.

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

Administrator changes
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 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Dwheeler · G.A.S · Royalbroil · Ssd



CheckUser changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
 * A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that [s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.

Technical news
 * Special:Contributions now shows the user's local edit count and the account's creation date.

Arbitration
 * The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.

Miscellaneous
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"Wikipedia:Wrong" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wrong&redirect=no Wikipedia:Wrong] has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached. Quick Quokka [⁠talk • contribs] 20:38, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
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Administrators' newsletter – November 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).



Administrator changes
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 * The WMF is working on making it possible for administrators to edit MediaWiki configuration directly. This is similar to previous work on Special:EditGrowthConfig. A technical RfC is running until November 08, where you can provide feedback.
 * There is a proposed plan for re-enabling the Graph Extension. Feedback on this proposal is requested.

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 * Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
 * , and  have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee Elections.  is the reserve commissioner.
 * Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
 * Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
 * Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
 * Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
 * An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

Miscellaneous
 * The Articles for Creation backlog drive is happening in November 2023, with 700+ drafts pending reviews for in the last 4 months or so. In addition to the AfC participants, all administrators and New Page Patrollers can conduct reviews using the helper script, Yet Another AFC Helper Script, which can be enabled in the Gadgets settings. Sign up here to participate!

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2023).

Administrator changes
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Oversight changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Following a talk page discussion, the Administrators' accountability policy has been updated to note that while it is considered best practice for administrators to have notifications (pings) enabled, this is not mandatory. Administrators who do not use notifications are now strongly encouraged to indicate this on their user page.

Arbitration
 * Following a motion, the Extended Confirmed Restriction has been amended, removing the allowance for non-extended-confirmed editors to post constructive comments on the "Talk:" namespace. Now, non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace solely to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided that their actions are not disruptive.
 * The Arbitration Committee has announced a call for Checkusers and Oversighters, stating that it will currently be accepting applications for CheckUser and/or Oversight permissions at any point in the year.
 * Eligible users are invited to vote on candidates for the Arbitration Committee until 23:59 December 11, 2023 (UTC). Candidate statements can be seen here.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:53, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Crime labels...an essay
A few of us have been writing an essay: Crime_labels. I ran across your similar posting on BLP Talk "Applying controversial labels to people" so thought you'd be interested. I am overwhelmed by the vast expense/waste of time and effort debating/squabbling the same issue across large numbers of BLPs! Cheers, Bdushaw (talk) 14:28, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).

Administrator changes
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Arbitration
 * Following the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee:, , , , , , ,.
 * Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were enacted in June 2009.
 * The arbitration case Industrial agriculture has been closed.

Miscellaneous
 * The New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in January 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,000 unreviewed articles awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!

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Administrators' newsletter – February 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).

Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

Technical news
 * Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size.

Arbitration
 * Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
 * Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.

Miscellaneous
 * Voting in the 2024 Steward elections will begin on 06 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 27 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
 * A vote to ratify the charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open till 2 February 2024, 23:59:59 (UTC) via Secure Poll. All eligible voters within the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to either support or oppose the adoption of the U4C Charter and share their reasons. The details of the voting process and voter eligibility can be found here.
 * Community Tech has made some preliminary decisions about the future of the Community Wishlist Survey. In summary, they aim to develop a new, continuous intake system for community technical requests that improves prioritization, resource allocation, and communication regarding wishes. Read more
 * The Unreferenced articles backlog drive is happening in February 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with Unreferenced. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. Sign up to participate!

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Administrators' newsletter – March 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).

Administrator changes
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Bureaucrat changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Phase I of the 2024 RfA review is now open for participation. Editors are invited to review, comment on, and propose improvements to the requests for adminship process.
 * Following an RfC, the inactivity requirement for the removal of the interface administrator right increased from 6 months to 12 months.

Technical news
 * The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages.

Miscellaneous
 * The 2024 appointees for the Ombuds commission are だ＊ぜ, AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Doǵu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, MdsShakil, Minorax, Nehaoua, Renvoy and RoySmith as members, with Vermont serving as steward-observer.
 * Following the 2024 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Ajraddatz, Albertoleoncio, EPIC, JJMC89, Johannnes89, Melos and Yahya.

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Thanks for at least undestanding the issue
I have been trying to get other members of the LDS WikiProject to understand the issue with varying degrees of success. I'm glad you get it from your edit summary and edits on 2 Nephi. Is there some way you can help explain this to the others? The Book of Mormon pages are filled with this kind of mystifying prose, and I cannot tell if it is all anachronism or if it gloss that has been added by Mormon oral culture through their Sunday School classes. Any thoughts you might have on how to get, let's be honest here, cultural Mormons to understand that this kind of description does not work outside of the Mormon culture would be most appreciated. jps (talk) 11:38, 17 March 2024 (UTC)


 * It is a problem, and it's one that is hard to see when you're "in" it. There is a whole slew of "Mormon lingo" -- terms Mormons use that are confusing to outsiders, words that mean different things inside Mormonism than outside. I don't know the exact reason for it, and I suspect it has something to do with basically having your own state for a century. But I've also seen these kinds of things in many different groups, cultures, religions, and even political parties. I'm certain an English speaking alien visiting the United States for the first time would be confused by our use of the words "pro-life" and "pro-choice". And I occasionally read news articles mentioning "dog-whistles" used by politicians that sound innocuous to casual observers but have specific meanings to people in their base.
 * I'm not sure how to best solve the problem. It takes a conscious effort. I suppose the first step is to recognize that there is a problem. An expansion of MOS:LDSJARGON might be helpful. Off the top of my head I can think of a bunch of words that have a completely different meaning inside Mormonism than outside. For example:
 * Elder = 19-year-old boy
 * Priest = 16-year-old boy
 * Laurel = 16-year-old girl
 * Deacon = 12-year-old boy
 * Sunbeam = 4-year-old child
 * Sacrament = Eucharist
 * Ordinance = Sacrament
 * Atonement = Agony in the Garden + Crucifixion of Jesus (roughly)
 * Word of Wisdom = health code
 * Zion = Pretty much anywhere where Mormons gather together, but also a specific place in Missouri. And a national park. And a bank. Oh dear.
 * Plural marriage = religious polygamy
 * Godhead = Trinity (but mostly this kind)
 * Trinity = A really bad false doctrine made up by the Catholic Church
 * Heavenly Father = God the Father. (The TV series Under the Banner of Heaven overused that one, in my opinion. Where most Mormons would have just said "God", they made sure to say "Heavenly Father" each time.)
 * Christ = Jesus (this one's not unique to Mormonism obviously, but it's not great form on Wikipedia to swap the title for the name)
 * Celestial Kingdom = Heaven
 * Spirit Prison = Hell but more like Purgatory
 * Outer Darkness = Actual Hell
 * Telestial Kingdom = Something between heaven and hell
 * Gentiles = non-Mormons (sometimes including Jews 🤦)
 * The Church (capitalized) = LDS Church (no, I'm not going to take the time to write it all out)
 * Gospel = kinda hard to define. Basically the whole message about Jesus saving everybody.
 * I remember once being in a meeting where a word was being re-defined in real time. There's a well-known document from the church presidency stating that husbands/fathers are to "preside over their families". But there's also a principle that husbands and wives are supposed to be "equal partners". There were some interesting mental gymnastics involved in trying to redefine the word "preside" as meaning "not being in charge".
 * Anyway, I'm not trying to bash or mock LDS, but I am being more provocative than necessary, because I do want people to recognize that it's a problem. ~Awilley (talk) 17:29, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Christ = Jesus to Mormons, but is that always how they interpret it in the Book of Mormon? If so, extremely confusing for an outsider. Same with "Messiah". Of course, they're listed on the anachronisms page for good reason. I am surprised that you are worried that this list will be seen as bashing or mocking. jps (talk) 18:15, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry, no, that's not what I was saying. "Christ" didn't really belong in this list, but I mentioned it because I had switched a "Christ" to "Jesus" in my edit yesterday. Jesus has hundreds of titles (Christ, Jesus Christ, Messiah, Savior, Lamb of God, Son of God, The Lord, Jehovah,...) and they're all pretty much interchangeable to Mormons. My point was that for the purposes of writing on Wikipedia we should just be writing "Jesus" and not swapping that out with any titles. Calling him "Christ" (translated "anointed one") or "Messiah" (also "anointed") is POV as well as confusing to outsiders. ~Awilley (talk) 21:32, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The other one to deal with is "Atonement" which is pretty difficult to follow as a concept when it is being described in early books as something that the characters in the BoM are anticipating. As you may know, that doctrine essentially exists only in Christianity and took centuries to come into being within Early Christianity only to be recast/repurposed again and again amidst heresies and reformations and counterreformations right up to is usage within low church Protestant Christianity out of which the vast majority of the "Christian" parts of Mormons gets its theology. Just using that word unadorned in a narrative, for example, is jarring. We either need to discuss it or find a way to put it that isn't so much like an oopart. jps (talk) 21:41, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Right. That is a confusing one. How do you concisely define Atonement for a global audience, and how did people in 600 B.C. know it? The Book of Mormon answer is that an angel told Nephi in a vision that Jesus was going to be born in Jerusalem and then die to save everybody, so Nephi taught his followers to anticipate that. But I don't know how or whether to explain that in Wikipedia terms. I haven't done much editing on Book of Mormon topics. My focus has been more historical...Joseph Smith, Mormon belief and culture, etc. Just replied to you on AN/I btw. I think you misread the IP's edit. Rachel was reverting a Mormon pushing a Mormon POV. (Note how the IP references "The Church" in caps.) ~Awilley (talk) 22:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Replied there. It was a compound edit, unfortunately, so I think the critique still stands.
 * Anyhoo... back to more pleasant topics: the thing that is troubling with describing the Book of Mormon is that Joseph Smith (et al.) was pretty fast and loose with their "translating"... which seems to be a common apologetic rejoinder when it comes to anachronisms. Problem is: Wikipedia is supposed to be intelligible so I think we have to either (a) identify the anachronisms in the discussion or (b) figure out a way to use words that are broad enough to not cause confusion. Sure, "church" could mean "religious gathering" more broadly, but Nephites, I gather, are thought by most Mormons to have attended something similar to their own church services. As Hydrangeans pointed out, the concern over this feels like it is falling into apologetics, which it is. But it is also falling into the problem of specificity. The proper solution is probably to excise discussion that would get bogged down in these sorts of things in favor of clear high-level summary style.
 * By the way, in researching all this, I found: Don't know how much you like irreverant Mormon flowcharts, but I really enjoyed it.
 * jps (talk) 22:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Ha! I'm reading Harry Potter to my kids right now, so I appreciate the house references. On the diff discussion, it was the "were you a fence sitter" part that Joseph Smith did not come up with but later leaders did.
 * Speaking of racism, that's a topic I struggle with when writing about Americans in the 1800s. I don't want to excuse it, but at the same time, literally everybody was racist back then by today's standards. So when I think about Mormonism, they're hardly unique in having racist policies from 1840 through the mid-1900s. What made the LDS Church unique is they held onto their racist policy all the way until 1978 and it took them until 2013 to apologize for it. I guess that's one downside of being a gerontocracy. I mean it's great to carry on some traditions, but others need to die. Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of respect for octogenarians...the accumulated experience and achievement and common sense...but on the flip side they are also pretty much set in their ways and resistant to change. (cough cough)
 * On how to treat anachronisms a) vs. b) I really don't know, and suspect it's best on a case-by-case basis. My personal preference is probably b). Find a way to make it intelligible to outsiders but still recognizable to believers.
 * My Wiki-time is over for today, so I probably won't be able to respond too much more. ~Awilley (talk) 22:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * There is pretty strong evidence that this traces to Smith. I put it in the response.
 * As far as racism goes, there is no excuse. It's just fact. The honest thing to do is admit it and be clear that basically the mucky-mucks were all inveterate racists. Same thing with the Founding Fathers of the US. And the fact that other white men were ridiculously racist is sidestepping the point. After all, weren't Founding Fathers and Mormons supposed to be better than everyone else according to their own doctrines?
 * Anyway, good to be honest about the past and not try to hide it. I see that on the LDS pages about their own racism. They need to do better. Maybe they will someday.
 * Glad you liked the flowchart in spite of its irreverance.
 * jps (talk) 23:20, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

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 * Please stop scrubbing the words "LDS Church" and "Mormon" from articles: you mean my editions of the LDS edition of the Bible and Template:Latter-day Saints right?
 * First, the Church publishes the "Holy Bible", not the "LDS edition of the Bible", is ironic that you mention that "calling people "Latter-day Saints" out of the blue with no explanation is confusing to readers in our very broad audience, many of whom are completely unfamiliar with Mormonism and its WP:Jargon" but you think that the entry "The LDS edition of the Bible is a version of the Bible published by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) in English, Spanish, and Portuguese" is good, implying that the readers know what LDS means. I think that entry is wrong for those two things that I said, but also because "Holy Bible" is the name that the Church uses, and you're wrong thinking that the entry I wrote was implying that the Church are the only ones who publish the book when I explicitly wrote "is a version of the Bible", where I wikilinked the word version. And no, I'm not removing the LDS word, as you can see in my revision, I never removed any LDS word.
 * Second, in the template, Joseph Smith Translation is NOT part of the standard works, as you can see here. Articles of Faith goes after Joseph Smith-History, not before. I don't understand why you also removed the List of Book of Mormon translations article link. And using Less-active Latter-day Saint, instead of Less-active Mormon, is because that, even that I know some of the references use Mormon (first because are old references and second because some newspapers are haters of the Church but I guess that can't be considered bias), there's references that use Latter-day Saints, and as you can see, the name of the template and main article is "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints", Latter-day Saints, and not the "Mormon Church", thus using Latter-day Saints would be fine since the use is not to short it (I'm not using "Less-active members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints"), like the "LDS Church" use. And yes I know that some people knows about Saints in the Catholic Church, but is not the same name, neither the same meaning (Catholics are not Saints, and Catholics pray to dead Saints), and not everyone knows this, there's many people that are not Catholic, even that are not Christian, so I don't see this as problem to use "Latter-day Saint".
 * "Bible Videos" listed at Redirects for discussion: I added my comment.
 * Other: I saw you reverted the edition of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints article that had Jesus Christ as the founder of the Church in the template, the Catholic Church article and other churches have Jesus Christ as the founder, but this one can't have it, doesn't makes this bias? We can simply write "Jesus Christ, according to the church", referencing it, and add a note that says "Joseph Smith is considered as the restorer and first president", with the reference. Also, I don't think that edition was the best way to do this.

Greetings, I hope we can have an agreement to address these topics. Furawi (talk) 05:49, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

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The Noleander clarification request, in which you were listed as an involved editor, has been closed and archived. The request was related to that case's principle 9, which states: "Editors are expected to refrain from making unnecessary references to the actual or perceived racial, religious, or ethnic background of fellow editors. Such references should be made only if they clearly serve a legitimate purpose. In the context of a noticeboard discussion or dispute resolution, it will rarely serve a valid purpose to seek to classify the participants in the discussion on this basis." Among the participating Arbitrators, there was a rough consensus that this principle remains true with current policies and guidelines and that there is not an exemption from this principle for asserting that an editor has a conflict of interest. For the Arbitration Committee, SilverLocust 💬 05:35, 12 July 2024 (UTC)