User talk:Awotter/Archive 1

Fall WPOR COTW
Welcome to autumn and the weekly COTW news. Great job to those who helped out with last week’s articles: Darlene Hooley & Thunderegg. Both made great improvements. This week, something a little different. With fall upon us, the photo ops are going to be harder to get, so we have a photo request fulfillment drive. Take a look at the requested pictures for  Oregon category or the graphics subproject for what’s needed. Then go take a picture, or search online for a free picture to upload (US gov sites are great and there are links available from the above links). If you fill a request, be sure to remove the request template from the article’s talk page. Our other item is another red link removal drive, this time on the flagship Oregon article. Like the state parks red link drive, try to coordinate on the talk page. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. Aboutmovies 02:04, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Week 1 October WP:ORE COTW
I know everyone has been waiting anxiously for this week’s COTW, so here they are: Barlow Road and Columbia River Plateau. Both are almost Start class, just some formatting and referencing, plus a little expansion and they will be there!

As to last week, it is difficult to track the items we were working on, but I know some pictures were added and at least three red links were removed from Oregon, so thank you to all those who participated. The award winner will be GoodDamon for their creation of the Oregon Forest Resources Institute article. We have now worked through all the Top class stubs and are into the High class stubs. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. Happy editing, and remember if you see a downed power line, don’t pick it up. Aboutmovies 20:25, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

WPOR CoTW: Don Schollander & Conde McCullough
Greetings WPOR world. Last week was great with the Barlow Road seeing lots of improvement, maybe even B class. Columbia River Plateau also saw some improvement, maybe enough to bump it to Start. On with the countdown, another two Stubs in the High category, both happen to be people: Don Schollander a multi-gold medalist; and then world-renowned bridge architect and all-around swell guy Conde McCullough. Schollander needs sources more than anything, and McCullough needs more of a bio, plus maybe a nice chart for the bridges with type/year/location/length. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. This week’s safety tip, stranger=danger. Aboutmovies 18:15, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

WikiOregon COTW
Greetings once again WikiProject Oregon members. Thank you to those who help out with improving Conde McCullough and Don Schollander last week. This week is a Stub break, with a Ref improvement drive for Oregon and a request for work on Portland Police Bureau. For the ref improvement, this means sourcing tagged statements and standardizing all existing citations, both of which are needed for GA and FA status. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. Aboutmovies 18:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Collaboration of the Week
Howdy doody ya’ll WPOR poke, time for more COTW. Thanks for the work on Portland Police Bureau and improving the references at Oregon. This week we are back to Stubs with Eastern Oregon and Fort Vancouver National Historic Site. Both need just a little TLC to make it to Start. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. Aboutmovies 02:27, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

SPAM ala COTW
Ladies and Gentlemen its time for another episode of Collaboration of the Week. Last week’s show starring Fort Vancouver National Historic Site & Eastern Oregon received high ratings. This week’s show star two more stubs, Johnny Kitzmiller & John Wesley Davis. As always, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Don’t delay, act today! Aboutmovies 18:28, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

New COTW
Hello again from WikiProject Oregon. A round of applause for the project in October when we added three GAs, one FA, plus 10 DYKs! Next, thanks to all those who participated in last week’s Collaboration of the Week, John Wesley Davis & Johnny Kitzmiller. This week we have the Cayuse War, and in honor of the home opener, the Portland Trail Blazers. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies 18:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion of Mo's Restaurants
A tag has been placed on Mo's Restaurants, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read our the guidelines on spam as well as the Business' FAQ for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Dougie WII 06:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Mo's and stuff
With Mo's the nomintor for speedy deletion looks new and has no idea what they were doing there. If you check the history of the article you'll see someone else remove the tag with some commentary about that editor. With the WPOR tag, it looks like you figured it out, but next time as the sole contributor I'd suggest not adding the class (Stub/Start/B), allow someone else to check the quality and make the determination. By adding the tag it automatically shows up in a special "unassessed" area that I check just about everyday (kind of sad actually). But feel free to tag an article you create with the WPOR tag, assuming it is an Oregon person/place/thing. It's also a good idea to find similar articles and find other wikiproject tags to place on them too.

Also, with talk pages, use the + symbol to leave a new message, that way it will be at the bottom, in chronological order. I had a hard time finding the message as I was looking at the bottom of the page.

As to Mo's I'll take a look in the next few days and let you know, but great job with citing sources, that's one of my biggest pet peeves, and the number one reason why articles get deleted. In fact Mo's likely would have been deleted if it didn't have sources. Aboutmovies 07:35, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Homework for me, lots of UCC! Aboutmovies 08:35, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Mo's Restaurants photo layout
Great work on the article. Thanks for the excellent effort. I notice you added the  back in. That's fairly unusual to do when the photos are simply interacting with text. See, for example, Oregon which has had a lot of effort applied to make it react and appear well when subjected to a wide variety of browsers, style sheets, resolutions, and font sizes. I recommend removing them. Perhaps a few 's would accomplish your goals? —EncMstr 09:05, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

WPOR's newest COTW
Thank you to all those editors who helped improve Cayuse War and Portland Trail Blazers last week as part of the Collaboration of the Week. They are looking much better. This week, with the election season over, we’ll tackle a request for Oregon Ballot Measure 37 (2004), which should have plenty of WP:RS available to work with on improvement. Our other article is another Stub in the High category, our only Miss America, Katie Harman. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Legal disclaimer: WikiProject Oregon and its affiliates are not liable for any personal injuries acquired while editing on the COTW including but not limited to carpel tunnel syndrome, Wikistress, alcoholism, anxiety attacks, or extreme emotional distress. Aboutmovies 20:13, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

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Re: World War II Online
To break 3RR, you need to make an edit, then revert to it four more times, or just revert someone else's edit four times. As for protection a specific version, see The Wrong Version. east. 718 at 00:51, November 20, 2007

Oregon COTW version 11.20
Welcome to the jungle folks. Thanks to those who helped out with Katie Harman and Oregon Ballot Measure 37 (2004) last week. This week, we have two high priority stubs, one of the two major hospitals in Legacy Emanuel Hospital & Health Center, and Oregon Department of Education. Enjoy your turkeys, or for some enjoy your tofurkeys. As always, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 09:03, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

WPORE Civil War COTW
Hello again to WikiProject Oregon members, time for this week’s Collaboration of the Week. Thank you to those who helped out improving Legacy Emanuel Hospital & Health Center and Oregon Department of Education last week. This week, in honor of the annual Civil War, we have the University of Oregon Ducks and the Oregon State University Beavers. Or if you attended some other school, feel free to improve your alma mater’s article. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:09, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Ship articles
Thanks for cleaning up those articles that needed sections! Maralia (talk) 05:34, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

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FA for WPORE COTW
Greetings boys and girls from the fine folks at The Wettest Place on Earth! A thank you to those who helped last week make some good improvements on the U of O and OSU OS articles. For this week, the next stub on the list is Fortune 1000 company Lithia Motors, Inc. way down south in Dixie, which only needs a little added to make it to Start. The other is a bit more of a challenge, but Linus Pauling I believe is our only Nobel Prize winning Oregonian, and a former FA. So hopefully we can get it back to FA, check the talk page’s article history template for comments. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies 21:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Linus
Pleas just add a and not hidden comments. Also, instead of removing things like pacificst, add the same tag otherwise no one will know to look for a ref to back it up. Thanks. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I know to use to request an inline citation, at that moment I was just trying to juggle several different things while rewriting the summary and was also trying to add some info and verify references to the 'Activism' section and I was afraid it was just going to be reverted and I'd would have lost what I added before I could do that. I should have just used  rather than an invisible comment like you said. Awotter (talk) 09:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem, just wanted to make sure since add the tag is easier than adding a long hidden comment, and the pacificst thing needed to be tagged and not deleted, or moved to the talk page had this been a WP:BLP. Great work on the article though. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Oregon COTW #25 (or so)
Hello again from the COTW of WikiProject Oregon. We thank ye who went forth through the rain and mud and helped out with last week’s articles Lithia Motors and Linus Pauling. Hopefully Linus can return to FA status early next year. This week we have the request of Oregon Ballot Measure 5 (1990) and High importance article Portland Rose Festival. Whatever work you can contribute would be greatly appreciated by our master. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Your removing of T-54/T-55 pictures.
Hello.

Because you removed most of the pictures from the article, the article is now unreadable and looks horrible. I going to undo your edit because it clearly makes the article worse. If you want to coordinate the image removing with me then please inform me on my talk page.

Thank you for understanding. - SuperTank17 (talk) 11:57, 15 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello.


 * Yes, you did remove the pictures from the article and placed them in the gallery. All I agreed on is that all pictures of T-54/T-55 that won't fit in the article should go to the gallery. As far as I know the pictures fitted just fine. - SuperTank17 (talk) 12:07, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually this was what I intended with my first comment on creating a gallery section. I am currently editing from a 14" laptop and for instance the "Chinese versions" section is actually quite difficult to read at the moment with the current layout with 3 images to the left and 3 to the right. --MoRsE (talk) 14:37, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Happy Holidays from WP:ORE
Hello again from the Collaboration of the Week for WikiProject Oregon. This week are two more stubs, the Oregon Garden and former Congressman Robert B. Duncan. Both are close to moving up to Start class, so only a little work is needed. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 00:07, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Mattyness: Le Paradis massacre
Thanks a lot! It's very nice of you, and thanks a lot for your edits. I'm not too good at copyediting or reviewing my work, I tend to think it's brilliant, and not realize my mistakes! But hopefully it will pass GA soon, then A-Class, then FAC! Thanks again, Mattyness (talk) 23:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC).

Holiday COTW
Greetings to all the WikiProject Oregon crew. Happy holidays to those who celebrate holidays. Thanks to those who helped out with last week’s articles Oregon Garden and Robert B. Duncan. Due to the holidays and people likely to be spending less time on Wikipedia, the new Collaboration of the Week will run for two weeks (OK actually I’ll be out of the country, but same difference). The first item will be a general Reference Improvement Drive. So find an article, source an tagged sentence or bring all the citations up to WP:CITE standards. The other item is a Tagging Drive, looking for those random articles about Oregon that do not yet have a WikiProject Oregon tag on the talk page. In the past I’ve found the Category:People from Oregon and its sub cats fertile ground for the lost Oregon souls. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:02, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Le Paradis
You are right, I should have notified you of the changes being made to the article. That was discourteous and I apologise. I was undertaking the article for a GA review and I felt (as I noted on the talk page) that some of your edits were unneccessary and recommended changes to them. I did not however advocate the complete removal of your additions, and I am sorry that this happened. As I mentioned on the talk page, I felt that your additions made the lead too long and there were a few other problems, but I actually thought your additions improved the article overall. I suggest that you go back to the talk page and discuss this issue with Mattyness who I am sure will be happy to discuss any changes you wish to make. Merry Christmas.--Jackyd101 (talk) 13:20, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Image:Paul-harkins.jpg and Image:Paul-harkins.jpg
Thank you so much for rescuing the photos. I pretty much had given up on trying to save the non-free use photos. Thanks for being a saint! Americasroof (talk) 13:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

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New Year COTW from WP:ORE
Happy New Year to all the Oregon WikiProject People. A big round of applause for everyone last year, we got a lot done. A thank you to everyone who helped with the last Collaboration of the Week, I saw a large number of articles in the unassessed section and our total number of articles is over 5000 (we were around 4000 in June when the assessment program finished the initial run) so I know at one person was busy tagging. This week we are back to a High importance Stub article the one and only max security prison, first prison, and only one with a death row in the state, the Oregon State Penitentiary. Then, by request we have one of the most prolific ballot measure sponsors in Mr. Bill Sizemore. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 16:55, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Hare Field
I appreciate your help with working through the unassessed cat. However, I think the above article you mistook for one of the many airport/heliport stubs as it is a Start class at worse. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)


 * My bad sorry.Awotter (talk) 07:09, 9 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, it happens. Thanks for taking a look. At least the unassessed is back down to under 20 from about 350. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:25, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

What the Bleep
Hi, I notice your comment on the RfC and wondered if you clarify what aspect of WP:MOS are the words "promulgated, pseudoscience and erroneous" failing to meet? Thanks. Anthon01 (talk) 01:47, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * "The lead should be capable of standing alone as a concise overview of the article, establishing context, summarizing the most important points, explaining why the subject is interesting or notable, and briefly describing its notable controversies, if there are any. The emphasis given to material in the lead should roughly reflect its importance to the topic according to reliable, published sources. The lead should not 'tease' the reader by hinting at but not explaining important facts that will appear later in the article. It should contain up to four paragraphs, should be carefully sourced as appropriate, and should be written in a clear, accessible style so as to invite a reading of the full article.""Next to establishing context, the lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article in such a way that it can stand on its own as a concise version of the article (e.g. when a related article gives a brief overview of the topic in question). It is even more important here than for the rest of the article that the text be accessible, and consideration should be given to creating interest in reading the whole article (see news style and summary style). The first sentence in the lead section should be a concise definition of the topic unless that definition is implied by the title (such as 'History of …' and similar titles)."
 * Never use a five dollar word when a two dollar one will work. Try critics state, considered unscientific, incorrect etc.Awotter (talk) 06:13, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Pseudomessage
lol..! Thanks for the smile, the Bleep talk page is far too serious and deadly. I don't understand quite why the skeptics feel the need to..um...trash it. I appreciate your involvement, between MOS, LEAD and NPOV, the currend lead is unacceptable. As you point out, the lead should be concise, simple and clear...yet it is now full of unnecessary details..and details on things like a letter to the editor of Physics Today...the criticism portion of the lead takes up a full 41% of the total lead, and there are no comparable details on the other, positive views on the movie. It's totally biased and undue, not a chance it will stand as-is. But it will be a battle, no doubt. Hang in there! Dreadstar †  16:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Oregon GA COTW
Howdy to WikiProject Oregon members, time for another edition of the Collaboration of the Week. As you may have already noticed, our flagship article Oregon is up for the third time as we make a push to get WP:GA status before going for WP:FA. Since this will take some time to get where it needs to be, this will be the COTW for more than just a week. Also, so we hopefully don’t trip over ourselves, try to coordinate on the article’s talk page. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here.

On another note, just a general good job/pat on the back to the project for a great 2007, the first full year of the project. We had 83 DYKs about Oregon, improved one article to FA, and went from around 4 GAs to 17 GAs. Plus numerous new articles, improvements to existing, the introduction of the COTW, and the introduction of article assessment at the project. Again, great job and here’s to a new year. Aboutmovies (talk) 17:14, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

MacArthur Page
I saw the main page after I put the link in there. I didn't think of it being alright to split pages at the time but then I realized I pondered doing so earlier in the day. You're right and I messed that one up.Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:44, 20 January 2008 (UTC)