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Hi Ayress97 - your page is looking good so far!

A few suggestions: 1. remove the authority from the genus name in the intro text. Wiki pages like this that I've seen include the authority/author in the overview table only. This page is for a broad audience and most readers will not know what the Adans. after Sabal means.

2. Similarly, including (Arecaceae: Coryphoideae: Sabalae) after the genus name without an explanation would be confusing for someone without previous knowledge of botanical nomenclature. I think the way it is written in the original Sabal page (subfamily Coryphoideae, tribe Sabalae) is fine. And the family, Arecaceae, is listed in the overview table with the authority, etc.

3. Some plant pages have a separate sub-section titled "Description" which goes into morphological details used for ID. Maybe consider putting the description of the midrib and variation in leaf blades under a similar sub-section.

4. I think moving the info about the Lepidoptera to its own "pollinators/parasitoids" subsection was a great idea.

5. thanks for the feedback on West Indies

I am excited to see what you add for the other subsections - especially phylogenetics & hybridization/polylpoidy. I think they will greatly improve the page! Lindsaeaceae (talk) 00:53, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Comments from Emily
'''[This looks good so far. I assume you will be moving your newly-written sections to the existing Sabal page when you're done? What is your plan for the introductory text block at the top? There is already a text block like that on the existing Sabal page; are you going to overwrite it or incorporate yours with what is already there? I notice that it seems you're not done with some sections here, I assume you're planning to complete those?]'''

Sabal palms (or fan-palms) are an endemic genus to the new world. Currently, there are sixteen recognized species of Sabal (Arecaceae: Coryphoideae: Sabalae) and one hybrid. The species are native to the subtropical and tropical regions of the Americas, from the Gulf Coast/South Atlantic states in the Southeastern United States, south through the Caribbean, Mexico, and Central America to Colombia and Venezuela. Members of this genus are typically identified by the leaves which originate from a bare, unarmed petiole in a fan-like structure. All members of this genus have a costa (or midrib) that extends into the leaf blade. This midrib can vary in length; and it is due to this variation that leaf blades of certain species of Sabal are strongly curved or strongly costapalmate (as in Sabal palmetto and Sabal etonia) or weakly curved (almost flattened), weakly costapalmate, (as in Sabal minor). Like many other palms, the fruit of Sabal are drupe, that change from green to black when mature.

Species

 * 1) Sabal bermudana L.H.Bailey – Bermuda palmetto (Bermuda)
 * 2) Sabal causiarum (O.F. Cook) Becc. – Puerto Rico hat palm (Puerto Rico, United States Virgin Islands, British Virgin Islands, Haiti, Cuba, and the Dominican Republic)
 * 3) Sabal domingensis Becc. – palma cana (Cuba, the Dominican Republic, and Haiti)
 * 4) Sabal etonia Swingle ex Nash – scrub palmetto (peninsular Florida, United States)
 * 5) Sabal gretheriae H.J.Quero.R. – Yucatán palmetto (Quintana Roo, Mexico)
 * 6) Sabal maritima (Kunth) Burret (Jamaica and Cuba)
 * 7) Sabal mauritiiformis (H.Karst.) Griseb. & H.Wendl. – palma de vaca (southern Mexico to northern Colombia, Venezuela, and Trinidad)
 * 8) Sabal mexicana Mart. – Mexican palmetto (southern Texas south through[Mexico to Nicaragua)
 * 9) Sabal minor (Jacq.) Pers. – dwarf palmetto (northeastern Mexico, Southeastern United States: Florida north to North Carolina, west to Texas)
 * 10) Sabal palmetto (Walter) Lodd. ex Schult. & Schult.f. – cabbage palmetto (Cuba, the Bahamas, Turks and Caicos Islands, Southeastern United States: Florida north to North Carolina, west to Texas)
 * 11) Sabal pumos (Kunth) Burret – royal palmetto (Guerrero, Michoacán, and Puebla, Mexico)
 * 12) Sabal rosei (O.F.Cook) Becc. (coast of northwestern Mexico)
 * 13) Sabal uresana Trel. – Sonoran palmetto (Chihuahua and Sonora, Mexico)
 * 14) Sabal yapa C.Wright ex Becc. – cana rata (Yucatán Peninsula, Belize, Cuba, and Guatemala)
 * 15) Sabal miamiensis (S. etonia × S. palmetto) - Miami palmetto; southern Florida, sometimes treated as a distinct species
 * 16) Sabal x brazoriensis D.H.Goldman, Lockett & Read (S. minor × S. palmetto) - Texas

Formerly placed here

 * Serenoa repens (W.Bartram) Small (as S. serrulata (Michx.) Nutt. ex Schult. & Schult.f. )



Extinct Taxa
Historically Sabal was found... [will you be adding more text here?]

Extinct species within this genus include:


 * Sabal bigbendense Manchester et al. 2010†
 * Sabal bracknellense (Chandler) Mai †
 * Sabal grayana Brown 1962 †
 * Sabal imperialis Brown 1962 †
 * Sabal jenkinsii† (Reid & Chandler) Manchester †

Phylogenetic Work in Sabal (1990s- Present)
The name Sabal was first applied to members of the group by Adanson in the 18th century. Previous names that this genus was associated with include, [remove this comma, it's not necessary] Corypha, Chamaerops, andRhapis [please make sure you italicize Latin names, here and throughout]. Within Sabal, relationships have been studied among extant species using morphological data, nuclear sequence data and plastid sequence data, and enzymatic sequence data. [please make it more obvious here that you're going to discuss these results below]

In 1990, Scott Zona organized [please rephrase this sentence; you don't "organize" species along a cladogram, a cladogram is the result of analyses of characters to produce a reconstruction of relationships, which is the cladogram] species of Sabal along a cladogram [link this to its own wikipedia page] (a tree showing relatedness) using key morphological and anatomical characters. He distinguished four groups, in which all of the species encompass, or clades [please fix this, it is not a complete sentence]. '''These clades include species that are more closely related within the group than outside of the group (in other clades). [you don't need to define this; link to the wiki page for "clade" the first time you use the word]' The clades within his study include (1) The clade that includes Sabal minor; (2) the clade that includes Sabal bermudana, Sabal palmetto, Sabal miamiensis, and Sabal etonia; (3) the clade that includes Sabal maritima, Sabal domingensis, Sabal causiarum, Sabal maurittiformis, Sabal yapa, Sabal mexicana, and Sabal guatemalensis; (4) the clade that includes Sabal uresana, Sabal rosei, and Sabal pumos''. These clades associate closely with geographic distributions. '''[please rephrase each of these so you don't have to keep saying "the clade that includes...". Also, please say something at the end (or somewhere) about what the geographic associations are]'''

In 1995, a smaller taxonomic study of S. minor was published that address the trunk-baring growth form of S. minor, Sabal louisiana . Since the 19th century, S. lousiana has oscillated between between its treatment as a distinct species and its treatment as the same species as S. minor. This study did not use molecular sequence data though they did use enzymatic isolation methods to compare S. minor and S. louisiana. [this section would work better as a separate section that is a note about this species' status]

In 2016, 15 species of Sabal were analyzed using molecular data to explore the evolutionary relationships among the species. This study incorporated plastid and nuclear sequence data that together were used to estimate the relatedness between the species of Sabal. '''[you need to say much more here. what were the results of this study??]'''

Pollinators and Parasitoids
Sabal species are used as food sources by several species of birds including [all of these need to include links to the appropriate wikipedia pages about the groups they belong to]Mimus polyglottos, Turdus migratorius, Dendroica coronata, Corvus ossifragus, and Drycopus pileatus, the palm beetle, Caryobruchus, [the punctuation here makes it unclear whether Caryobruchus and the palm beetle are the same thing or not, please fix]and various species of hymenoptera. Bears (Ursus americanus) and racoons are also known to feed on fruit of various species of ''Sabal. Sabal palmetto is recorded to have its own lichen, Arthonia rubrocincta, that only occurs on the leaf bases of the Cabbage Palm (Sabal palmetto''). In Europe, the introduced Lepidopteran species Paysandisia archon has become a prominent pest whose larvae are known to feed on some species of Sabal . '''[where are these European species? are they in botanical gardens? Please clarify.]'''

Anthropogenic influence

 * Update** Changes suggested by Lindsaceae and Emily were incorporated into my article. This page is now live. I added my sections into the current page for Sabal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayress97 (talk • contribs) 18:32, 6 April 2019 (UTC)