User talk:AzaToth/Archive April 2008

UTC Live Clock
Hi, may I ask you to put a Live Clock showing the current time in UTC + 2:00 in User:Eleassar/monobook.js? Thanks a lot. --Eleassar my talk 11:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, you may ask. → Aza Toth 11:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, so will you help me? I'll appreciate if you add it. --Eleassar my talk 16:35, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I've fixed it. Thanks anyway. --Eleassar my talk 08:38, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Blocked for 24 hours
Screwing with the MediaWiki messages is simply unacceptable. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:06, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * This would be funny if MZM blocked you with twinkle. Mønobi  22:09, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Remeber that on wikipedia our admins have amazing transpareny and accountability, on most other sites the admin's word is law. I had to live with that on my recent break so I think this little bit of fun is perfecty acceptable once in a while.-- Phoenix -  wiki  22:19, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, come on. If you are going to block AzaToth, then there is a whole list of other users who you need to block for such April Fools pranks. Did it honestly do that much harm? Tiptoety  talk 22:29, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I've unblocked, under the presumption that you are wise enough to not pull another stunt like that. &mdash; Coren (talk) 22:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm probably not the wisest person around, but hopefully wise enough :) → Aza Toth 22:39, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

twinkle
I am trying to install twinkle, but I can't see the tabs, or any sign that I have it. Have I not done it right? I cleared the firefox cache, and even logged in and out again.special, random, Merkinsmum  00:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

FYI
For your convenience, I have reproduced an item from "User talk:Ldemery"

"I do read this page; I do not respond.

"1.) I do read this page, and regularly.

"2.) I do not, and shall not, respond to material posted here.

As a matter of personal policy, I do not respond to any communication, through any channel, from any person not known to me, unless that person provides their true name. It is obvious that virtually all persons who post messages on "User talk" pages such as this not wish to "sign" their posts under their true names. (Their personal choice; fine by me.)

"3.) Matters concerning any specific "Wikipedia" article may be addressed on that article's "Talk page." " 4.) With reference to 2.) above: I have stated my true name previously, and shall do so again: Leroy W. Demery, Jr. All who might wish to contact me through some other channel (e.g. e-mail, U.S. mail) are invited to do so; I reiterate that I shall not respond to any person not known to me unless that person provides their true name. Ldemery (talk) 18:33, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Editprotected review request
Hello! I noticed you were an admin and you've done some template work in the past. I put an template up on a page here: Template_talk:Non-free_book_cover a few days ago and I was wondering if you could review my request. I'm not really sure how the whole admin thing works with this sort of thing. Thanks a lot! Tkgd2007 (talk) 02:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

CSD Stuff
Hi AzaToth,

On the template called DB-A7 there is a note that says:

Please use a more explicit template - db-person, db-band, db-club, db-inc or db-web where possible.

Could you add those in the Twinkle CSD function please?  Sw ir  lB  o  y  39  22:21, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

PS: Love the tools!
 * Hmm, though I've done that (or someone else). A bit late atm to fix it, so poke me tomorrow on IRC for priority queue. → Aza Toth 23:13, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

New policy on confusing usernames
On WT:U, we have finally come to a compromise about confusing usernames. The new policy requires discussion with the user before blocking them for a confusing username, and also allows for confusing usernames to be taken as part of a larger pattern of disruption.

Given this, it does not make sense to report confusing usernames with TWINKLE anymore. Can you remove it from the list?  r speer  / ɹəəds ɹ  22:42, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I cant see much of an compromise there. Has there been consensus for yet another policy change? → Aza Toth 23:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. Are you reading the same page? A whole lot of users left comments in favor of ending the practice of blocking of confusing usernames on sight. The usual opposition came from Until( 1 == 2 ) and Ryan Postlethwaite. Until has withdrawn from the discussion, and after compromising on a new process for blocking users who aren't doing anything wrong except clinging to a bad name (a situation I find rather improbable but others worry about), I swung Ryan Postlethwaite, and he's helping to develop the new process. I'd call this even more consensus than Mangojuice had for his simplification of the policy. Please don't try to veto it with TWINKLE.  r speer  / ɹəəds ɹ  07:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * At the moment the section about confusing usernames are too confusing and paradoxal, I'll hold on making an change until it's defined what part of that section holds. → Aza Toth 18:26, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I find the reasons people give for blocking users over "confusing usernames" paradoxical. The difference is that I have argued my position on WT:U and gotten people to support it. TWINKLE is already held in low regard by the people who actually deal with UAA. Apparently it never even tells its users that when they click the "inappropriate username" button it's going to go to UAA and recommend a block, and it certainly doesn't warn its users when the block they request is going to be controversial. Usually when I talk to TWINKLE users in this situation they're caught completely by surprise. I know TWINKLE is your tool, but please try to make it a tool for working with the username policy and not fighting against it.  r speer  / ɹəəds ɹ  17:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I would say the consensus is still in flow for that matter. (1 == 2)Until  19:08, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Where is it flowing to, may I ask? What's happened recently on the page hasn't been a backlash, it's been old Wikipedians like Kim Bruning showing up (because single user login brought their attention to it) and pointing out that the username-blocking culture is still bad for the project, and we're still not being inclusive enough, even after the long-discussed reforms.  r speer  / ɹəəds ɹ  17:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Twinkle Help Please
I don't quite understand the instructions for installing Twinkle on Firefox. The directions mention a monobook.js file, where can I find that and how would I edit it? Thanks for the help.Xenosagian (talk) 13:37, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You can find it at User:Xenosagian/monobook.js. Click edit to edit the page. Ths link is red because you have not yet created it.  Sw ir  lB  o  y  39  14:45, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

morebits.js
What's with this line of code (part of qString):

As far as I know,  is never defined, and so it throws an error for me when creating a new   object. paranomia (formerly tim.bounceback) a door? 00:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's implied that qString is a string object. Perhaps that should be checked though. → Aza Toth 06:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I see. This can be checked via, and maybe I'll submit a patch if I get time. paranomia (formerly tim.bounceback) a door? 21:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * This should do it (untested). This:


 * Should be changed to this:


 * paranomia (formerly tim.bounceback) a door? 21:49, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

salam
salam lala —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.30.66.246 (talk) 13:15, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Coding
I was wondering if you could help me with some JS coding. I have been trying to make a tab at the top of any page, that when clicked, tags the page with an tag. This is because I commonly list 4/5 redirects in one nomination and it is getting tiresome to tag them manually.

I have come up with this, but it doesn't work, and in fact stops ANY tabs from working. As I have very little knowledge about JS [I mainly do VB.NET] programming, could you have a look over it and make the changes necessary to make it work? It's probably something glaringly obvious and I'm being stupid, but I thought that it can't hurt to get advice from an expert! Thanks in advance. >< Richard  Ω6  12  15:08, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:50 öre SEK.png}
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VandalProof
Quick Question what templates does VP use to welcome/reject users. βcommand 2 17:21, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Any particular reason why the gadgets for Twinkle and Friendly duplicate ImportScript (not incidentally clearing out importedScripts)? --Random832 (contribs) 07:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

UTC Live Clock gadget
Hej Asatand! I have a rather old and slow computer, and I use Firefox. So I can not use the gadget "UTC Live Clock" since it slows down my browser so much that I can not use Wikipedia anymore.

I copied your code to my own monobook.js and changed it so it only ticked (woke up) once per minute and did not show any seconds. Then it worked very well for me. Since this clock is intended to be used so people can compare times of signatures and watchlists and so on, then I don't see the need for seconds anyway.

With your permission I would like to change the code of the installed gadget the same way, so everyone can use it.

--David Göthberg (talk) 21:48, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I would recommend forking, as I think there are some (me included) that wish to have seconds visible. → Aza Toth 22:04, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Twinkle
Hi, it seems Twinkle has suddenly stopped working on my account - i.e. all buttons are gone except the welcome button. Any ideas? Regards, CycloneNimrod Talk? 20:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Some warring over the inclusion of Twinkle as a gadget was occurring (see MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition), so that's a temporary outage. nneonneo talk 21:24, 30 April 2008 (UTC)