User talk:AzaToth/Archive January 2009

Template:User-uaa's reason parameter
Hey AzaToth, can you stop by here if you have a free moment? A few editors have requested a clarification of the documentation regarding the "reason" parameter. I think I've got the gist of its function, but it's not a template I'm very familiar with, so I'd appreciate it if you had a look. Thanks. --Bongwarrior (talk) 06:37, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

I think this is self-promotion
Hi, I just thought this entry is an instance of self-promotion or even COI. Would you pls take a look at it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afshin_Rattansi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.241.37.104 (talk) 22:14, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * done → Aza Toth 22:54, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Automatic Welcome message
Hi AzaToth! I wonder if you could help me. In Twinkle, when I place a CSD on an article, if the user who posted the article has nothing on their talk page, Twinkle is now adding an automatic welcome message in addition to posting the CSD notification. I would like to ask if you could provide an option to disable that function please.

I feel quite strongly about the fact that if I am going to warn someone about something, I wouldn't say "Hello, nice to see you, welcome!" first, and then tell them that the first article they created has been shifted cause it broke the rules. I am issuing a greeting on one hand, and a slap on the face with the other! It just doesn't seem right in my opinion.

I feel that it should be my choice to welcome someone, and it shouldn't be done automatically when I am not expecting it to happen. I am sorry if my message seems a bit harsh, but something needs sorting with this feature. Thanks for your help, Thor Malmjursson (talk) 20:00, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes. As an an admin, it is distinctly embarassing when I go to implement a usernameblock on a clearly non-serious username and find that they have been welcomed as a new user. I must stipulate that it does not prevent me from applying the block if it is appropriate, but it does not help wiki's image. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 20:38, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * hmm, I do? → Aza Toth 22:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, the CSD notifications do, after a change I made one month ago following this discussion: if the user talk page doesn't exist then they add a notice (in case of vandalism or an attack page it's slightly modified to not thank the editor for his contribution). The reasoning was that a CSD notice is intended to be more information than warning, in particular with a new user, so the welcome notice is placed to provide helpful links and to soften the "slap" of the editor's first article being deleted. Personally, I was a bit hesitant to force the welcome notice on all Twinkle and Huggle CSDers. I think it was a good idea since it might help retaining a couple of editors who otherwise would be driven away, and I certainly think that all in all it is benificial for our image, even if a couple of editors with a clearly inappropriate user name are also welcomed. Changing Twinkle to give the user control over this feature would be quite easy, so if you still feel strongly about this say the word and I'll work on it. Cheers,  Amalthea  22:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I certainly feel strongly enough to ask you to do something about it please, Amalthea. I am not gonna welcome someone automatically if I am CSD'ing an article under G3 for vandalism, which has already happened once. I would rather it be something I can switch on or off through the twinkle configuration rather than it being something I am asked if I want to do or not.
 * As I said above, its my choice if I wish to welcome someone, and would rather its not done automagically without my knowledge until after the event. Up to now, what I am doing is if I post a CSD I am going to the user's talk if its a new one, and deleting the welcome.  Let us switch it on and off please, or remove the function altogether and leave it up to us as to who we welcome! Thanks! Thor Malmjursson (talk) 03:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Anthony is specifically referring to User talk:Darth Panda, in which case I believe his concern is well-founded. While I am partially at fault for not paying close enough attention to the username, and while this specifically was with WP:HG and not Twinkle, I'm sure that this can possibly happen with Twinkle and to other users. The only issue I see here is that in certain cases, a welcome would be beneficial and in some cases, a welcome would be detrimental. Might it be better to ask users if they wish to post a welcome or not? I know it may slow people down, but in my opinion, precision is more important than speed. D ARTH P ANDA duel 01:33, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Twinkle script help
How could one modify it to add an extra rollback link? I would like to modify my script to have a rollback link for confirmed sockpuppets.—  Dæ dαlus Contribs  11:09, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You need to copy twinklefluff.js and modify it. → Aza Toth 22:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I have, but I want to know what I need to specifically modify.—  Dæ dαlus Contribs  04:05, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Issue with Twinkle (and Friendly)
A rather interesting problem with the scripts, I posted at Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle. Have the script(s) been updated recently? Gary King ( talk ) 18:14, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Possible Twinkle change?
You might want to consider whether it's better to put a single Shared IP notice on an IP page, rather than, as in this example, three. thanks. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:54, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Suggesting a new vandalism identification feature in Twinkle
I propose that you add a redirect vandalism revert feature to Twinkle. This way, if someone abuses redirects, we can have a more specific edit summary, such as "(Reverted 1 edit by Vandal identified as redirect vandalism to last version by Editorofthewiki. -- IRP ☎ 19:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I moved my message to the bottom of your user talkpage because you didn't notice it. -- IRP ☎ 23:20, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah sorry :) The problem I see is where to place such functionality, and/or how ot identify probable redirect vandalism. Also, the codebase needs to be cleaned up first before any new features could be added. → Aza Toth 00:54, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It should be able to tell the difference between an ordinary edit and a redirect using a similar method to the automatic edit summary feature. -- IRP ☎ 17:38, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Just to let you know that I moved the post to the bottom again. -- IRP ☎ 02:14, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Portal:Read more
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so you're 27 and still a student? how long have you been programming? sorry im just interested tom @     gersizer@aol.com  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.17.248.138 (talk) 01:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Twinkle starting to flicker
Just a heads-up: Twinkle seems to be breaking down here and there for some users today. You might want to check the Talk page. Thanks. (Twinkle is wonderful, by the way. Even half-operational, it can still facilitate mind-blowingly efficient vandal-bonking.)   --Dynaflow   babble  22:53, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Commons image deletion discussion
Please see Commons:Deletion requests/Images of Spider-Man sculpture --InfantGorilla (talk) 16:13, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Virgo
In answer to cries to remove nudity from Wikipedia, always countered by the no-censoring policy, I've been working very hard to come up with a way to allow Wikipedians to censor their images without violating the rule. I'm planning to program a customizable add-on content filter that can be installed in the same manner as Twinkle, so that the content is only censored if a user specifically asks for it, and even then, only for that user. I haven't worked with JavaScript before, though. How different is it from Java? Also...would you be willing to help code the add-on? Thanks. Bob the Wikipedian (talk • contribs) 21:46, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Removal of Autowelcome from Twinkle
Hi! Despite my previous request to enable a switch off for the autowelcome from twinkle, I am still having to remove autowelcomes from the talk pages of people I have no intention of welcoming to WP. Could this please be looked into again at some stage, since its becoming a bit of a drag leaving csd messages and welcomes on the same page when I don't want to welcome them. Cheers :) Thor Malmjursson (talk) 03:22, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I have not forgotten you. Sorry that I'm so slow. :\ Cheers, Amalthea  03:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Iceflow, you can use the TwinkleConfig.welcomeUserOnSpeedyDeletionNotification option now to configure the automatic welcome messages. Place in your monobook.js to turn them off completely. Thanks for your patience, and Cheers, Amalthea  14:09, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

A Question Regarding Twinkle
I tried to set up Twinkle, but got a script message saying that my account is too new to use Twinkle. When will my account be able to use Twinkle?-- Al max  999  03:46, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You will be able to use Twinkle when your account becomes autoconfirmed. Ioeth (talk contribs twinkle friendly) 14:41, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Problem w/ WP:TW
Whenever I try to CSD tag with Twinkle, it doesn't have a "Submit query" button or any similar button. Could you please fix this? Jonathan321 (talk) 01:13, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not supposed to. When you select a CSD template the process will be submitted automatically.  Ioeth (talk contribs twinkle friendly) 01:22, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, when I do that, it doesn't work. Jonathan321 (talk) 02:03, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you using Internet Explorer? Twinkle doesn't support Internet Explorer, so you'll have to use a more sophisticated browser like Firefox, Safari, or Opera. —Remember the dot (talk) 04:43, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I use Firefox. Jonathan321 (talk) 05:59, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, great. Have you tried clearing your browser's cache? —Remember the dot (talk) 07:08, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, and it still doesn't work. Jonathan321 (talk) 18:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming you have everything installed as gadgets, correct? Please tell us all of the gadgets that you have enabled.  On a side note, the code that you have in your monobook.js file will not change the way that Twinkle functions if you have it installed as a gadget.  Ioeth (talk contribs twinkle friendly) 19:08, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I only have Twinkle enabled as a gadget. Jonathan321 (talk) 22:42, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Help:Article count
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Thread of note
Could you take a look at this thread and give some input: WT:FRIENDLY? Thanks! Ioeth (talk contribs twinkle friendly) 15:43, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

SVG Buttons on Commons
Hello, I noticed that you are the creator of several "button" files such as File:Button-White.svg. Would you be willing and able to create analog buttons, but in a couple different lighter colors (the ones that come to mind are Yellow and Light Gray). The reason I ask is because they are used in a template on Commons (commons:Template:Weather World C), and the darker colors that are currently being used (File:Button-White.svg and File:Button-White.svg) make it hard to see the numbers overlaid on them. I have started a discussion at commons:Template talk:Weather World C on the matter. Thanks for your time. - Running On  Brains  03:25, 30 January 2009 (UTC)