User talk:AzaToth/Archive May 2007

Belinda Peregrín
This article has been locked for almost a month. --FateClub 00:50, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

TWINKLE
Hey, AzaToth. I found a typo in TWINKLE. The edit summary for the personal info warning reads parsonal, not personal. Anywho, great tool. Thanks.  W ODU P  20:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

TW ARV
Except for the fact that it takes a little longer to fill out, I like the new ARV. However, why does a username report always go to RFCN? Maybe put in a checkbox saying "this username is considered a blatant violation", and it checked, sends the report to AIV instead. Thanks -- TeckWiz is now R Parlate Contribs@(Let's go Yankees!) 21:39, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, can TW leave on the user's talk page, as that's what is supposed to happen. (By the way, there's also a proposal for a new username reporting location here). -- TeckWiz is now R Parlate Contribs@(Let's go Yankees!) 01:23, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I was going to raise this issue. RFCN is getting some pretty obvious reports that could properly go to WP:AIV to be blocked immediately. As I understand it Twinkle no longer has AIV reports for usernames as an option? It might be useful if people had the choice... WjBscribe 01:40, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Right now, I'm just using the vandalism part of the TW ARV report, and filling in the comment, so it doesn't go to RFCN. Selecting vandalism on the dropdown doesn't make the report show vandalism unless a box is checked. -- TeckWiz is now R Parlate Contribs@(Let's go Yankees!) 01:46, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

TW WP:RFCN reports
Please take this feature out of Twinkle. RFCs on usernames should not be generated automatically by any tool, any more than WP:RFAR or user conduct WP:RFC complaints should be. There are requirements to satisfy first, namely, the user must be editing, and attempts must be made _first_ to address the username issue with the user (that is, if the username is not something so bad as to be blocked on sight). Obvious names should be reported to AIV; non-obvious names should not be reported at all with an automated tool like this. Mango juice talk 14:04, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You are right that they shouldn't be reported to RFCN, but as there are at the moment no alternatives I made it so. The optimal solution would be to have a WP:ANU board. in twinkle, you must at least mark one checkbox, and those are directly taken from WP:U. → Aza Toth 15:24, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

twinklewarn
Just to let you know there were some changes in the uw templates lately: I don't know how you want to organize the single templates, but puting 2 tabs might be a good solution (at the risk of having yet an other tab on my edit page ;)) -- lucasbfr talk 10:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * uw-copyright is now a single issue (as opposed to the 1-4 series)
 * there are many new single templates : WP:UTM.

Usernames for administrator attention
Would you be able to change twinkle to report all username violations to the above page? When the name is reported it needs a specific reason for it being against policy. I think we'll be going live in the next day or two. Usernames should be reported using Userlinks. Thanks.  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  23:04, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Any chance you can change the format of twinkle reporting to the above page so that it reports as follows (no headings) - It's the same format as AIV;


 * - reason it is against policy. ~

Cheers.  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  11:18, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * This looks great. Thanks for looking into that so quick. HighInBC(Need help? Ask me) 18:03, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * How come TW now just lists the violation letter+number that matches in WP:U? I think it was better when it fully described it. It makes it easier for people with slower connections, and admins. -- TeckWiz is now R Parlate Contribs@(Let's go Yankees!) 00:05, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed, might be better to allow users to fully explain their concerns - otherwise it's a free for all!  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  00:06, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No Ryan. I just mean righting having TW write out the reasons instead of having something like

"A7", which corresponds with something on WP:U. -- TeckWiz is now R Parlate Contribs@(Let's go Yankees!) 00:48, 5 May 2007 (UTC) :::::Why was it changed from full description to a code matching WP:U? I think it was better when it explained it in the report. Oops. You already fixed it :) -- TeckWiz is now R Parlate Contribs@ (Let's go Yankees!) 23:23, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

JavaScript
Hi AzaToth. I'm working on a basic edit count tab and I need to know what is the equivalent of in JavaScript (like wgUserName and wgPageName)? ~ Magnus animum  ∵ ∫ φ γ 01:27, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle won't open user talk page
Hi! I just installed Twinkle, and it won't open the user talk page when I rollback a vandalism, even though it says it is opening it. I tried all three settings (window, tab, blank), and none of them work. Any thoughts on what might be wrong? Thanks. HeirloomGardener 04:21, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Never mind. Firefox was blocking popups from wikipedia.org. I put that in the allowed list, and it works fine now. :D HeirloomGardener 04:51, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

UAA comment
I never got the chance to post my response:
 * Spoken out, it's "retarded", edits so far indcate nonsense/vandal only as well. Wildthing61476 17:43, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * How is is possible to pronounce a W as an R? → Aza Toth 17:45, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * If you are going to be derogatory towards "retarded" people, one might leer "weeeetarrrd" instead of "retard" SGGH speak! 17:55, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle
I have a quick question. When I run the "Vandal RollBack" script, do I have to put the warning in to the Vandal's talk page, or does it do that automatically? If it does, I can't see the warning after I run the script. Bgs022 21:24, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm having problems getting twinkle to work. I've disabled popups, but every time I click on something (for example, the rollback vandal function), nothing happens. Could it be mybrowser (internet explorer)? Thanks Monkeymox 13:45, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes it is, TWINKLE is not compatible with internet explorer. Get Firefox! -- M s c h e l 13:49, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle Question
When I am using the Vandal Rollback, does it automatically leave a message on the vandal's talk page? Or do we still need to do that? I do have Firefox. Ayudante 04:41, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle userbox
Hi there, I wanted to let you know that I think Twinkle is a great tool. I am impressed at how easy it makes reversions. I decided to put the twinkle userbox on my userpage, but I can't get it right. I tried cutting and pasting, and I trying typing it, and neither seems to work. Can you figure out what I am doing wrong? Thanks.  EleosPrime  17:57, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You were missing three  closing tags, and they were messing up the display of the Twinke userbox. I went ahead and fixed it for you. —MrSomeone ( tlk • cntrb ) 18:15, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. By the way, I just started using Twinkle today, and I am curious as to why the rollback (VANDAL) option doesn't always appear.  Am I doing something wrong?   EleosPrime  04:05, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle bug
I sent you an email, but here's the same message:

There's a bug crept up in twinkle. After each revert, the first thing that appears except the restored version is "undefined". No clue why that is. Look at these: (first version of page) ("vandalism") and (undefined as part of the nonsense text (after I separated "undefined" from the rest of nonsense. (In namespace)

This is pretty urgent, because you have to remove this by hand. I can't write a little bot that automatically removes "undefined" from every twinkle revert, nor fix the bug. This may turn into more than a little mess. Evilclown93 00:59, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I reverted your last change (optimization it seems?) Hopefully that should allow it to function until you can fix it. Prodego  talk  01:44, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Everything's settled now. All systems check. Evilclown93 02:56, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll look into it. → Aza Toth 10:26, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Should be fixed now... → Aza Toth 10:50, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Db reason on TW
Can TW be programmed so that if an equal sign or a url is included, it uses the template format, as the page says to use that, other wise the template will come up with no reason given. See here. -- TeckWiz is now R Parlate Contribs@ (Let's go Yankees!) 02:58, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

MfDs
What's going on? Why are you spamming that user's talk? --ST47 Talk 14:07, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I had a bug I didn't find, sadly Zoidberg had to take that, as he created the sandbox :) → Aza Toth 14:09, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I suppose that's the price of greatness :) Enjoy. --ST47 Talk 14:10, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, you've created a lot of MfD subpages too. I think we're up to the sandbox being on its 7th nomination now. :-p --Deskana (AFK 47)  14:33, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, had to run for a dinner :) → Aza Toth 18:30, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi AzaToth, I see what the problem is, you reported, but the actual account that was created was which I've just blocked (do you see the difference? The one you reported has one less $ on each side). Could it be a problem with twinkle reporting?  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  19:01, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Think so, dunny why it happend, I'll look into it → Aza Toth 19:02, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * With all due respect, Administrator Noticeboards aren't bot testing playgrounds; anyway, make sure you don't make the page spontaneously combust or anything, and I'm happy  cheers ~  Anthøny  22:05, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * There was a problem with the twinkle username reporting template - it was the only way AzaToth could test it out, he can continue to do so in my opinion.  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  22:08, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, have you considered changing the reporting template to Reason the name is against policy ~ ?  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  22:09, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I found the problem ($$ in string.replace goes to $), but have been unable to fix it. → Aza Toth 22:48, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Would 1= as a prefix to the username work?  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  23:02, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Request for comment on computer program
The Computer program article is in need of repair. Would you comment on any improvement suggestions? I joined the talk starting with the thread talk:computer program. Timhowardriley 23:15, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Feature Request
I'm not exactly sure if Twinkle currently has this, but I would like a message to be sent to the user if an edit is rolled back because of vandalism. Aremith Talk 06:15, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

EDIT: I would prefer it if the current system was replaced with an automated system which posts on the user's Talk page automatically. Aremith Talk 09:02, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle code error
I believe you've got a superfluous space character in User:AzaToth/twinklefluff.js, I'm not sure if it's the cause of my problem, but it seems like it is. I have it set in my config not to watch any reverted pages, however when I restore to rev., Twinkle automatically watches the article. Anyway, here's the line (653) 'wpWatchthis': TwinkleConfig. watchRevertedPages.indexOf( 'torev' ) != -1 ? true : form.wpWatchthis.checked, Line 541 appears to also have the same superfluous space, maybe you did a find and replace or something similar and didn't notice the space character. if( TwinkleConfig. watchRevertedPages.indexOf( type ) != -1 ) { Thanks for the great tool, and let me know if that wasn't the problem (just curious ;]) —MrSomeone ( tlk • cntrb ) 06:09, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm, that doesn't appear to be the problem, since the code has been like that for a while but the script has just started acting like that, weird. —MrSomeone ( tlk • cntrb ) 06:36, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Multi page XFD
Hey AzaToth! Is it possible for you to program TW to allow a user to make a combined xFD nomination (e.g. 3 articles nominated for deletion in one AFD discussion). --R Parlate Contribs@ (Let's go Yankees!) 20:39, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Mispelling in Twinkle
In the User:AzaToth/twinklewarn.js script, there is a line of code saying:

addPortletLink('singlefunc', 'javascript:tagadd("uw-pinfo", "Posting parsonal info about other is prohibited")',

"Posting parsonal" should be "Posting personal" Thanks! -Billy227, Review my account!! talk contribs sndbx usbx 20:03, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

TW problem
For some reason, I can't get anything to show up. How do you get it to work? What shows up where? I use Firefox, cached my browser, and don't use Norton. What's the problem? It's exactly the same as it was before the script. I see nothing. Where is it supposed to show up? On what pages? Or what do you do to make it show up? hmwith talk   21:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

TW Error
I keep getting the following error evey time I try to [rollback (VANDAL)] "The recieved top revision id is less than our current revision id, this could indicate that the current revision has been deleted, the server is lagging, or that bad data has been recieved. Will stop proceeding at this point."

Jerm 21:17, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That is a rare error, that might came up sometimes, though it shouldn't be permanent. It can happen when different parts of wikipedia is lagging, so old data is returned. → Aza Toth 21:45, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you know how long it normally lasts, because it still seems to be happening? Jerm 03:02, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I now see notices about server lag so I will stop talking now. Jerm 03:05, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

There was a change in api.php during an update yesterday - i solved it in my port on de.wikipedia by changing the query in revertPage: var query = { 'action': 'query', 'prop': 'revisions', 'titles': wgPageName, 'rvlimit': TwinkleConfig.revertMaxRevisions, 'rvprop': [ 'ids', 'timestamp', 'user', 'comment' ], 'format': 'xml' } --C-M ?! 09:27, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok, I'll change it then, I see that you have added a rvprop of 'ids' → Aza Toth 12:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Just so you know, Aza, I'm not sure it is server lag, as both me and another user I contacted today are having the same problem. Personally, I've had it every time I tried to rollback, so I've now resorted to using the "Restore this version" feature. Great script, by the way! -- Razor  ICE  11:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I've had the same issue as RazorICE - I get the message every time I try a rollback, despite the fix. Thanks for looking at it - this is a fantastic script!  Cheers, --Folic Acid 13:29, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 *  Looks like it's working now! - maybe it was server error after all? -- Razor  ICE  07:01, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No, it was an API change, but you might have had problem purging cache, perhaps you are sitting behind a persistent router? → Aza Toth 07:21, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I am. Guess that was it then. :) -- Razor  ICE  04:09, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle code
Hi, do you mind if I use your simple window code in another javascript application. If you don't mind, what license is the code under? Thanks. ——  Eagle 101 Need help? 22:37, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That piece of ****? pd. → Aza Toth 22:50, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

arbitration - FYI
As you have probably heard, the mediation between E104421 and Tajik has been abandoned because Tajik was found to have been sockpuppeting while claiming to be unavailable. As a result, Requests for arbitration/E104421-Tajik has been reopened and a /Proposed decision has been posted. The Proposed decision does not mention you, but you should be aware that a Workshop proposal criticizing you has been offered at Requests for arbitration/E104421-Tajik/Workshop, so you may wish to comment there. Regards, Newyorkbrad 21:37, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

One line twinkle
Hi AzaToth - just a quick question. Is getting twinkle as simple as putting that one-liner into monobook? --HappyCamper 13:26, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

FAC promotions
The official "ruling" on a FAC occurs when Raul adds an article to the Featured article log. Null (SQL) was added as part of this update. The bot just tags the discussion and updates the talk pages. Gimmetrow 05:14, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It must have been a mistake, I don't think even Raul can over ride the consensus that much. → Aza Toth 13:42, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

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How do you remove the title of the Main Page?
Hi. I found on MediaWiki:Common.js that you wrote the javascript for "Main Page layout fixes". I copy pasted it into my wiki trying to hide the title, but it doesn't seem to work. Would you possibly take a look at it and tell me if you see what I did wrong. Maybe it's not in this JavaScript? Thanks --Steinninn talk 12:22, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

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Image:Qxz-ad36.gif
don't you think 400+ KB is a little big for a file that could get loaded up on people by surprise? Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 01:04, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * hehe, just a note form April:

Very cool, and thanks for the help, but just two things:


 * the text is a bit hard to read, and
 * 431,685 bytes? What's that sound I hear? Ah, an angry mob of dial-up users banging on the door.

It's OK, they'll get disconnected before they manage to finish breaking it down – Gurch 19:33, 14 April 2007 (UTC) → Aza Toth 12:21, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Multi-page xFD
Hi AzaToth. I mentioned this once before on your talk page and got no reply: Is it possible to make a part in TW for a multi-page xFD (i.e. one nomination for multiple pages because they are about the same thing, and don't meet the same guidelines (as described here. --R Parlate Contribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 22:51, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I was thinking about that, but couldn't decide in what end I should start, finish all the other xfc's first, or enhance the existing first. I might have more time now, than the last weeks. → Aza Toth 23:24, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Broken script
Listings are added to the top of the list now. Uncle G 10:57, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * User:AzaToth/twinklexfd.js

New usermessage bar format
Hi AzaToth! I'm trying to get my usermessage bar to display a silver border, silver font-colors, and. You can see what I've accomplished so far at User:Magnus animum/monobook.css. Do you have any ideas as it is not currently working? Thanks, ~ Μ ΛG иυs ΛΠ ιмυМ   &#8776; &#8730;&#8734;  15:55, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Bad administrator!
I suspect that user:Chrislk02 is a sock puppeteer. He has currently banned 3 users for being sock puppets. I checked their contributions, and I suspect, that those 3 banned users are sock puppets for Chrislk02. All of their contributions has been vandalism, and they have all been reverted by user:Chrislk02. The vandals vandalism, are all on the same pages!!! The vandalism, were all somewhat simliar. The banned users are:

user:Shaq dunks like a maniac

user:Symbiotic Dresscode

user:Jumpsteady R

I think that Chrislk02 has been making accounts, vandalizing with them and reverting the vandalism with his admin account in order to make him look good. He thought people wouldn't figure his scheme, because he blamed the sock puppeting on a banned user, and the vandalism was small. Runewiki  777  20:57, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Just to throw in my 2 cents, I think it could be a coincidence that the users' vandalism was similar and maybe had the page which was vandalized on his watchlist.  ~ Μ ΛG иυs ΛΠ ιмυМ   &#8776; &#8730;&#8734;  22:21, 31 May 2007 (UTC)