User talk:AzaToth/Archive November 2007

Twinkle Problems
A friend - much younger than me - installed Twinkle on my computer, following the advice given here WP:TW. Now some mysterious changes happened in my contr. list. All my top edits are marked with rollback and vandalism. We blanked the monobook.js page again. Did we do anything really harmful? Please let me know soon? Best wishes Hans555 11:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S. Forget it! I have managed. --Hans555 09:50, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

No legend for Image:VersionNumbers.svg
Bit of a noob, so I don't know if this is the right place, but do you know of a reference or legend for ? All those dotted colored lines and octagons and whatnot are a little confusing... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xoxota (talk • contribs) 15:40, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion mixed up
It's db-csd-notice-custom, not db-csd-custom-notice. Plus, I think you got parameters 1 and 2 backwards. Thanks for making this change, though. Pyrospirit ( talk  ·  contribs ) 16:29, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed.... → Aza Toth 16:31, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Looks good to me. If you want, you could also add in the different warnings for different types of A7 tags. I'm not very experienced with JavaScript, but I think you'd need to change part of the  object from

'inc': 'a7', 'web': 'a7', 'band': 'a7', 'club': 'a7',
 * to

'inc': 'a7.3', 'web': 'a7.4', 'band': 'a7.1', 'club': 'a7.2',
 * Being the newb I am though, that could be totally wrong. Pyrospirit  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 16:38, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Nice to meet you.
Wow, I randomly clicked on a link of contributors to Brian's entry and am stunned to see one as well versed in programming as you are. Dazzling and thorough resume. If you in l.a. I'd really like to meet you. You can learn more about me here ww.carlocapomazza.com Take it easy! :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlocapomazza (talk • contribs) 17:08, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

knights and knaves
Hello, I saw that you were a contributor to the knights and knave page. Question #2 is killing me. I keep getting no possible solution. Do you know the answer??? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.177.50.120 (talk) 13:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Think you have asked the wrong person, I haven't made any edit to that page. → Aza Toth 13:46, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Age template
Thanks for letting me know about the "delete request". I have replied on the voting page. --Uncle Ed 21:18, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Template doc and Template doc inline semi-protection request
On 01:07, April 4, 2007 you protected Template doc and Template doc inline with pp-template. Per WP:RFP, "If you do want a page unprotected, please try and ask the protecting admin first...", so I write here. These templates are merging with I as primary merge editor. I need admin support to lower the protection level from pp-template to just pp-semi-template to complete the merge. Thank you in advance and best regards. – Conrad T. Pino 03:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

SSP
HUH? Suspected_sock_puppets, elaborate at SSP please. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 03:05, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Bug fixing only. → Aza Toth 03:06, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Is it true Twinkle tags users immediately with sock tags in SSP cases? I don't think it should do this. The user may be innocent. I feel admins should do this only for long term sock cases or indef block cases. See User_talk:Collectonian. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 15:36, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It's my interpretation if the tag, as else, the default setting of the tag should never be used, and it make no sense for me. → Aza Toth 16:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Small bug in Twinkle
As I've been using Twinkle (which is an excellent tool), I noticed that when it adds a speedy deletion notification to an image caption, it hides the regular caption for the image. See Gbe languages for an example. I've tracked down the problem, and I believe it would be fixed if you went to User:AzaToth/morebits.js and changed

replacement = replacement.replace( /\]\]$/, '|' + data + ']]' );

to read

replacement = replacement.replace( /\]\]$/, ' ' + data + ']]' );

Thanks again for Twinkle! I hope we can get this bug fixed to make it even better! —Remember the dot (talk) 22:54, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * That's a fix for an old bug, and I'm not eager to go back to that behavior. It's in fact a feature, and not a bug. But if you like, you could help me by doing a full parser for the image tag. → Aza Toth 22:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, I'll look into creating a more sophisticated parser. —Remember the dot (talk) 23:42, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Earlier there was a problem with many images that hadn't the caption last, but for example the size, and as I believed that the deletion notice was more important than the current caption, I though that it would be best to just override the previous caption than to try to add to it. A more sophisticated system must be able to recognize the full image tag syntax, and to be able to find the last (if any) caption. → Aza Toth 00:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, I've developed a parsing algorithm and am, for the moment, using User:Remember the dot/Sandbox in place of User:AzaToth/morebits.js. After some debugging, it appears to be working fine. I successfully nominated several images for pseudo-speedy deletion using my replacement code, and the image captions were successfully updated as well. Could you try out my new code and tell me what you think? —Remember the dot (talk) 06:06, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle in Opera
Hey there, thank you very much for making twinkle work again in Opera, i've been aching for it, great job. :) Something about which i am unsure whether it is an issue or intended: At the end of a process (reverting, speedy deletion, notifying a user after a revert/speedy) the centered window always just sticks in place, not mentioning anything about being done (the last thing it will output is something like "data recieved" or similar). Again, thanks. ~ | twsx | talkcont | 09:16, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I can use Twinkle on my Wii, because its Internet Channel is powered by Opera! THX!!!!! Dalekusa 23:54, 13 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dalekusa (talk • contribs)

morebits.js QuickForm capabilities
One of the Friendly users asked me if it were possible to display a list of checkbox items in the "tag" feature in columns. Imageine if the Twinkle "csd" tag displayed all of the CSD criteria in 2 columns...that's essentially what they're asking if I can do to "tag".  I looked at the QuickForm object in the morebits.js library, but didn't see any way that this could be done, so I wondered if you have ever explored this type of functionality or know of a workaround to do it.  Thanks!  Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 18:16, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It's possible, but there are two ways to do it, either add the column-count CSS3, or use tables. → Aza Toth 18:38, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll look into it! Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) —Preceding comment was added at 18:42, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh, I didn't mean it was possible right now, I meant two possible solutions to implement it :) → Aza Toth 19:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, gotcha! Thanks for the clarification.  Looking at morebits.js, it seems it would be relatively easy to add the "style" attribute when adding a "div" element type.  Of course, I pretty much know jack about morebits, though.  Let me know if you ever add a feature that would support columns.  Thanks!  Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 19:29, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

ARV in Safari
Hi, the arv functionality doesn't seem to be working in Safari (3.0.4 Mac OS X Intel). I get an undefined message in the Javascript console when press the submit button.

Everything else works great, thanks! -- Dougie WII (talk) 19:05, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Blocking templates in twinklewarn.js
Could you add the missing block templates listed on Blocksnotice to twinklewarn.js? Thanks! Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 20:03, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Template:Template doc reverted
I recorded your revert as evidence for your implied support of Option 2: redirect one in deciding &#123;&#123;Documentation, template&#125;&#125;'s final fate. However Option 2: redirect one has consequences which deserve consideration (see Option 2: redirect one) at your earliest convenience if you've not already done so. – Conrad T. Pino (talk) 20:29, 18 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I made the decission, as the template was stated by having being deprecated by, and thus, it makes sense that it would still use the look as that template does, and not the other templates look. → Aza Toth 20:32, 18 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you. This revert indicated to me wider notice was worthwhile. I've updated Template doc to provide notice to client template users. – Conrad T. Pino (talk) 22:44, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Caption bug
Are you interested in implementing my change to morebits.js which we discussed above? I'd like to have it put into the main code (which is protected), where it will be shielded from vandalism. Currently my morebits.js replacement is stored at User:Remember the dot/Sandbox. —Remember the dot (talk) 00:03, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Are you sure it will catch all possible parameters? → Aza Toth 00:14, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It recognizes all the parameters listed at Extended image syntax, so yes. I am confident that it will not introduce any problems. —Remember the dot (talk) 19:41, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that page is a bit outdated, I think you need to read the source :) → Aza Toth 19:54, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Can you point me in the right direction as far as the source code I should look at? And also, the code works from right to left, so even if there was another parameter that should be recognized, as long as the caption is on the right there would be no problem.
 * I do remember that "upright" is one of the keywords, so I've added support for that. —Remember the dot (talk) 01:01, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Think it's defined in the linker code. → Aza Toth 07:39, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I looked at, added "border" to the code, and updated WP:EIS. Did I miss any other parameters? —Remember the dot (talk) 19:58, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, apparently not
eh! Johnbod (talk) 02:28, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Gots an idea for Twinkle.
I like being able to choose between AGF edits, normal edits, and Vandalism edits, but you forgot test edits. A lot of edits are stuff like "Headline 1 test test test" and stuff, and those were obviously tests. However, there is no button there. If it is possible to add a 4th link when viewing diffs, that would be great. Thanks! Soxred93 has a boring sig 04:17, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Just my two cents' worth: I would say the AGF option is appropriate for test edits. —Remember the dot (talk) 19:43, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * hmm. Is it ok if I can modify Twinkle to have a test option too? Soxred93 has a boring sig 02:47, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Classification of admins
Hi AzaToth. Please consider adding your admin username to the growing list at Classification of admins. Best! -- Jreferee    t / c  23:06, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

User Warning comes across a bit harsh
Hi! Your efforts - and the editors who use Twinkle - are doing a great service to Wikipedia.

I was on the receiving end of an edit reversion from a link I put up. I am not arguing the reversion. My effort in writing you is that the user warning I received assumed I was putting up a spam link, was a newbie, or an idiot. My link was meant in good faith. But I have been editing on Wikipedia for a while and am not a spammer.

Can I suggest that you change your user warning to have a more positive tone that assumes Good Faith and doesn't end with "Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia," which basically states that the recipient is a newbie and doesn't know what he/she is doing at all on the site (and we should be nice to the Newbies anyway, I believe).

Just one reaction from someone on the receiving end of the user warning. Many thanks again for your efforts to clean up Wikipedia. - JerseyRabbi 13:43, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Take that up at WP:UTM → Aza Toth 14:19, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Hot dog globalize tag
Please see the hot dog talk page. --Zeamays 14:31, 30 November 2007 (UTC)