User talk:Azpyroguy

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The first time that info was deleted was not even done by me, I only back up the removal of it being it is biased. I'll break it down for you paragraph for paragraph:

''The EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation), and DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter) implementations on these engines offered in 2007.5+ Dodge Ram 2500-3500 trucks are plagued with problems, ranging from soot plugged turbos (which creates another subset of problems in itself), soot caked intakes, and plugged DPF filter systems. Most of these caused catastrophic system failures, many times leaving the driver stranded.''

All these problems are problems are in any truck equipped with the new emissions devices. Ford, GM, Dodge, doesn't matter. Even the big trucks. And I have worked on them all, including work for Dodge, Ford and GM dealerships, I don't need ask them anything. This isn't a Dodge/Cummins problem. It's a emissions system technology problem.

''These systems, mandated by the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) as per the 2010 diesel engine regulations, also cause a drop of at least 25% in economy. Similar legally mandated systems on competing diesel engines such as the Power Stroke and Duramax have been mostly trouble-free and without such large-scale negative impacts, providing hope that these problems may be solvable on the B series with future design revisions, and possible manufacturer recalls.''

Powerstrokes started on fire. Duramax runs fleetguard DPF systems, they have the same failure rates as the Dodge's because Dodge also uses Fleetguard. Cummins owns fleetguard. Once again, this isn't a Dodge/Cummins problem. It's a emissions system technology problem. The 25% drop in fuel economy shouldn't even be stated, because these engines are made with EGR/DPF. A EGR deletion will increase fuel economy by 25%.

''Despite Chrysler's attempts to fix these problems to date, owners are still caught in the middle. Chrysler has offered many owners to buy back their vehicles.''

Ford has actually bought more trucks back than GM and Dodge combined.

Chrysler has suggested that owners "drive it hard, drive it fast" but it is not always possible or safe to do this, and it may result in failures of the engine and other powertrain components.

Chrysler actually suggests just leaving the the turbo brake on.

'' Many owners have decided to risk voiding their warranties by removing or disabling the EGR and DPF items on their trucks, resulting in a much more reliable engine and truck with better economy. They report getting around 18 MPG in city traffic, and over 21 MPG on the highway, while not towing.''

By far, the worst part of this whole data bash. Yes owners do EGR/DPF deletes and do get better mileage, perhaps 18/21. But these trucks are built completely different Class 2-5. Let alone this engine shows up in class 6-8 Fords, with the same problems. So can these 18/21 after the delete. Sure, a 2wd, reg cab, 3.42 gearing will get over 25 MPG running bone stock. A 5500 4x4 might do 10 MPG with the deletion. They are all different.

''Under warranty, all problems with the engine and powertrain will be repaired, as long as the owner has not removed any of the emissions system or installed any other potentially warranty-voiding devices. Warranty repairs can prove to be problematic for owners, as warranty repair policies may vary from dealer to dealer. However, under US law, all problems related to emissions systems must be covered under warranty for 5 years or 100,000 miles (significantly longer than the standard warranty); dealers refusing emissions-related warranty repairs risk legal punishment for both themselves and Chrysler Corporation. Although it has been found that on some non-California registered 2007.5 models that emissions warranty is only 5 year or 50,000 miles, whichever comes first.''

Dealers refusing warranty repairs for no reason is non existent. That whole thing is slanted.--Dana60Cummins (talk) 01:18, 13 March 2010 (UTC)