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 * By the way, that talk page could do with an archiving ;) &mdash; Dihydrogen Monoxide (Review) 05:55, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

P.O.D.
Hi. Thanks for rating P.O.D. a B-class article. What doyou think, in your opinion, I should do to improve the article into GA-Status? Quetzal123 (talk) 23:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem, the article has definitely improved. Write sections about the band's music (describe their music and lyrics, and maybe their stage shows accurately), reception (what the critics and fans have though about the band), and provide some more sources (preferably at least one per paragraph). Remove wikilinks from the non-notable dates. That should do it. --Azure Shrieker (talk) 23:41, 2 January 2008 (UTC)


 * All right then. Thanks. Quetzal123 (talk) 23:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

"fanzine" in christian metal
I wasn't sure how really to ask but I know you did alot of stuff on the christian metal article so I thought you might know. It says HM magazine is a fanzine, is fanzine a word?

6th line christian metal – Jerry  teps  10:10, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Portal:Christian metal

I just read beyond that... and I now realise that it was the correct term. Sorry for wasting your time. – Jerry  teps  10:14, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, fanzine is a word. HM, however, is a magazine while Heaven's Metal is a fanzine. --Azure Shrieker (talk) 12:45, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Christian Metal
With all respect to this project, The WikiProject Christian Metal is not willing to merge. The members of our project are as interested in heavy metal music in general as they are in Christian lyrics. Many of the WP:CMM members are also members of the WP:HMM but not many of us are members of Christian music projects in general. Christian metal is as much a subgenre of heavy metal music as a subgenre of Christian music. There was some kind of misuderstanding with the merge. Personally I though it was about forming a union between projects, not forming a one project and removing the rest. It really would not make sense to merge Christian metal with Christian music project since there are a lot more articles within our scope than within any other Christian music project's. A lot of the other Christian music projects are interested in softer styles of music, but we, for the most part, are not. WP:CMM is also not inactive, currently the members are just more busy writing articles than updating the project page. Good luck on the project and no hard feelings. --Azure Shrieker (talk) 10:50, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * If you note most of the members of the other projects simply became members of the specific work groups in the new project (i.e. the former CCM Project members are now members of the CCM work group). The thought was that by combining the projects we could unify efforts in editing and formatting the various genre articles. I hope that you will discuss with the members of your project and reconsider. I will leave your work group active and reopen your original project with the Wikipedia council until you a reach consensus. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 13:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

The Barnstar of High Culture Awarded
Oh! And thanks for thanking me, much obliged! IronCrow (talk) 05:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much! Nice to know someone appreciates my work. To be honest, the current FAC on Christian metal does not seem to lead anywhere since certain users keep bringing up issues that would require major amount of work, and to me it seems that none of my contributions to the article since it was accepted as GA have been constructive. Quite the opposite, it seems to become more and more chaotic. And there simply are not very reliable and comprehensive sources on Christian metal. I have also written all the band articles that I'm interested in. I don't know what to do anymore in Wikipedia. It is also pretty frustrating how the Wikipedia policies keep changing so insanely often. I uploaded many bandlogos and now they are discouraged, what a waste of work. Anyway, thanks again for the Barnstar. --Azure Shrieker (talk) 09:04, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Yeah, I used to enjoy editing Wikipedia alot more until the policies became sporadic. The edits you've done aren't bad at all, though for some reason as soon as the Christian metal article was seemingly "finished," someone decides that it is unpolished. The sources we have are agreeable (to me) and certainly somewhat viable, more viable than alot of other articles. I'm really confused too. I thoguht we should try for grammar more, but as soon as I finish up doing that, something else is up. But I'm like you: I blame the policies changing too often. As soon as an article is nicely done (or at leave moderately done well), something happens to where it is lower in quality. But yeah, we should try slimming the articles up, maybe, or concentrate more on band articles than on the Christian metal page. What I do not get is how someone (I won't say who) will say "this and this needs to be fixed" but they do not offer to help do the edits. Whatever happened to etiquette in Wikipedia? Heh, You're welcome again, for the Barnstar, just thought you deserved another. IronCrow (talk) 02:50, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Greetings
I noticed you added flags to the LoCMB. Sometime ago I had added the 'expandable list feature' (I call it that) to the that list. You can see its implementation here. I believe that this feature is suitable for cleaning up a diverse list as LoCMB, which in its current state is cluttered. Besides that, additional band specific information can be added. Thank you. Weltanschaunng 10:30, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the tip, the current list definitely requires a clean up. Now I'll just have to figure a way to use that feature. --Azure Shrieker (talk) 11:04, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The code you require for adding that feature can be found on the talk page. I had put it there some time back. Happy editing! Weltanschaunng 15:46, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Adding bands
I thought I would send you a note to get some feedback. I want to start adding some bands to the wiki like Fear Not and Magdalen but not sure if it would be a good thing considering there isn't much info on the bands other then some HM Magazine information. I have quite a few albums from bands that aren't on the wiki. I just need feedback if you think adding stubs would be good and should I just leave them off. Please understand I don't want to get into edit wars, or do things that are considered vandalism on wikipedia. That's why I use the talk pages more then editing. I'm also thinking of trying to add images to the pages also for those that don't exist. Let me know what you think, any feedback is appreciated.OfficialDoughboy (talk) 13:58, 25 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It does not matter if you can not find enough info to write an article longer than a stub, as long as the band meets at least one of the notability criteria on music. Someone else who knows more about the subject may extend the article later, it happens, I've extended band stubs myself a lot too. The band article needs to contain an info that makes them notable enough for wiki, and at least one source, HM is considered a good source. For example, Magdalen contained, if I recall correctly, Ken Tamplin in its line up once, which makes the band meet the criteria #6: contains a notable musician (Ken Tamplin has an article, making him notable for wiki). See Aletheian for example, they have a stub article but they meet 2 notability criterias. Don't get shocked if your article gets tagged for deletion, some of the recent changes page patrollers are too eager to tag things they think are non-notable for deletion. Usually the articles will be kept here if the bands meet one criteria. I've only had one of "my" articles tagged for deletion, Drottnar, and they were kept when I pointed out in that deletion discussion they meet notability criterias. I hope that helps. Feel free to ask more, I'm glad to help. --Azure Shrieker (talk) 16:50, 25 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the speedy reply :) I have bookmarked that page so I can refer to it again. I think I'll start with Magdalen because I know more about them then other bands.  If I need help I will definitely ask.  Thanks again!OfficialDoughboy (talk) 19:28, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Magdallan
Just thought I would let you know I got a page up on Magdallan. Thanks for your help because it immediatly was put up for speedy deletion and it didn't get deleted :) Let me know your thoughts and if there are some ways you can think of to help me improve it.  I also added a page for the album Big Bang.  Thanks again!OfficialDoughboy (talk) 05:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the edits! Even though small they made the page look better!  Thanks again!OfficialDoughboy (talk) 20:45, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure, no need to thank me, just trying to be helpful :-). By the way, I checked the article edit history, and its seemed that you saved the page for wiki quite early, without wikilinks and such. I suggest that you write the possible future articles in WordPad first, take you time to write those, add wikilinks and whatever you can, and then save it to wiki. I do that a lot because it allows me to revise the content better so that I can save a pretty complete article with band templates and everything, and it usually saves from all that hassle of disputed notability. But whatever suits you. --Azure Shrieker (talk) 21:06, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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Message from Phil63
If you are determined to edit the Dale Thompson Wikipedia page then why don't you edit it when it is actually vandalized? I am having to monitor it too much because someone keeps poting terrible things about me on it! So STOP fixing what I repair! You are killing me dude! Stay off my page!

Dale — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phil63 (talk • contribs) - (Message moved from user page by Onorem♠Dil 12:43, 14 April 2008 (UTC))


 * Hey, I'm not the main editor of that article or anything. It just looks weird that you post something alarming like "Dale Thompson does not exist but it is okay to believe in him" which seems pretty much like vandalism to me. If you really are Dale Thompson himself, then I respect your wish to remove that page, and I will leave that page alone. By the way, you have got to play some concerts in Scandinavia again.--Azure Shrieker (talk) 19:58, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar
I wasn't sure if you any barnstars or not and I wanted to give you one for your work. Turns out you do have barnstars, but ehre's one you don't have. You deserve it! Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 19:34, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh wow, thank you kindly. I was traveling abroad for a week and therefore could not reply earlier. I try to keep managing, editing, updating, and extending these metal articles as much as I can, but I'm getting increasingly busier at my studies and other work. There has been numerous times when I have considered leaving Wikipedia before it affects my life, but somehow I still keep editing articles when I come to look for non-music-related information :-). However, I usually tend to check my watchlist on a daily basis for vandalism and other edits. Thanks again for the barnstar, it is very encouraging.--Azure Shrieker (talk) 14:29, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, no problem. Don't worry about replying earlier. And I know what you mean. Wikipedia sucks up much of my life, too. I wouldn't edit it regularly but I have time during breaks at my college, so that's when I do most of my editing. Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 18:00, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Underground era of Christian metal
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Christian black metal
Once again, I would just like to take the time to thanks you for your efforts on this and other pages in both protecting and adding valuable content to them. Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 19:33, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Heh, thanks for thanking me, you're being too cool with me. The unblack metal article really needs some work on the name dropping of the labels and releases and focus on notable stuff, and I'm trying to do something about it. Come to think about it, I've seen the movement being called "Christian black metal" instead of "unblack metal" in the mainstream media mostly; I'm probably going put up a poll on the the discussion page on renaming the page "Christian black metal." --Azure Shrieker (talk) 19:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Demo 98/99
Hello, Azure Shrieker. The article Demo 98/99, a demo by Vaakevandring, is an article that just got tagged for deletion. Since Christian metal is your specialty, and you're very good at improving articles, is it okay if you help me on this article so that it's less likely to get deleted? Thanks. B T C 03:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, I'll see what I can do about it. --Azure Shrieker (talk) 08:41, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Kohllapse
I like what you did at Talk:Kohllapse re:unifying the assessments. I was about to do that after posting my reason for C-class but you were too fast!Shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 08:51, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

New WP:CMM style
Hey there, can you please give your opinion on my proposed new style of the project layout? (new style). It's only slightly different but it looks a bit better. – Jerry  teps  01:22, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Notice on Antestor reference
I just wanted to notice you(sorry for my english) that the 9th references at the antestor page is no longer accessiable. Don't know if it's much to do about it, but anyways you are much more experienced than me, so I'll let you handle it. Thanks Nor-bm (talk) 14:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for telling this. It's not the first time that link has been offline, so I think we should just wait for a while that the person who maintains that fansite pays the domain payments, and then it hopefully comes online again. If not, I'll remove it. Actually I should just remove the whole citation right now because fansites are not really approved in Wikipedia as sources, and there are better sources for Antestor. --Azure Shrieker (talk) 17:09, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you
Hey guy, thanks for the lesson, see if the Extol's article and the Immortal Souls' article are right now. And sorry for my poor english. Bye.

(J.P. Sola Christus (talk) 06:02, 13 December 2008 (UTC))

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Extol
Hey guy, (sorry for me english) I have edited Extol's page and put their most recent style as "Experimetal metal" (The Blueprint Dives). Do you agree with me? I don't know very much (almost nothing) about this style. What de you think about this? Bye. (J.P. Sola Christus (talk) 04:13, 16 March 2009 (UTC))


 * In my opinion "Experimental metal" is a bit redundant because it just links to the avant-garde metal page. I do agree that Extol were a head of their time in their metal and it was definitely experimental, and Blueprint definitely has it's experimental sides... Well, not that it matters much, but in my opinion "progressive metal" is enough.--Azure Shrieker (talk) 10:19, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Well guy, I see in the "Blueprint" page that the style as a mix of prog metal and post-metal. Do you agree with this? I know almost nothing about post-metal. I also have see in Extol's page "a mix beetween prog metal and post-hardcore. What do you think? Bye(J.P. Sola Christus (talk) 20:58, 16 March 2009 (UTC))


 * I must admit that it was I who put that "mix of prog metal and post-metal" to the Blueprint page. The critics were comparing Blueprint to bands like Neurosis and Cult of Luna who are post-metal (a mix of post-rock, hardcore, doom, avant-garde), so I thought it was appropriate. I kinda think that Blueprint has post-metal and progressive metal influences, but I could be wrong, it is a difficult album to categorize. I'm not familiar with post-hardcore, but the screaming vocals do sound like some bands that are called post-hardcore, the music on the other hand, do not. Sorry, I'm not being much of a help here. None of the post-metal, post-hardcore of progressive metal tags have any sources for Extol, so feel free to replace them with experimental metal if you wish.--Azure Shrieker (talk) 22:32, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Vaakevandring edit
G'day... I changed "Christian black metal" back to "unblack metal" because that is the current title of the Wikipedia article about it. I don't particularly care about which term is used, though. So it's up to you :-) -- leuce (talk) 23:27, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Why hello. You know, in my opinion, the "unblack metal" article should be renamed "Christian black metal" because that's what it is. I've just been hesitant to do that because then people would probably make articles for "Christian thrash metal", "Christian death metal" etc. which would be ridiculous. I tend to change "unblack metal" to just "black metal" because I've seen the band members (not just Vaakevandring but others too) and fans come to change unblack out of the description, they don't seem the like the term and I understand why, I mean it has a bit of a parody tinge to it as you can read from the unblack article, and the bands seem to think that the term harms their mission to minister the black metal scene, something like that :-P. --Azure Shrieker (talk) 10:28, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

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Antestor
Hi.

I think that "extreme metal" is better to define the sound of Antestor, because they played Black, Death and Doom metal, they have experimented all these genres. What do you think? (Sorry for the English). Abraços. (J.P. Sola Christus (talk) 00:05, 8 April 2009 (UTC))


 * Um, in other-language wikipages Antestor are called "Christian black metal". Besides, their last album was definitely black metal, not death metal, not doom metal. The Return... had doom influences and Martyrium had a lot of death/doom, yes. But shouldn't it matter most what they are commonly labeled and what they played on their last album? "Extreme metal" fits better bands like Mortification, Celtic Frost, Sarcofago etc. with obvious thrash influences, in my opinion.--Azure Shrieker (talk) 22:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Full Armor of God Broadcast

 * Comment Full Armor of God Broadcast is facing deletion. Any advice, assistance or help would be much appreciated! Help represent NON-SELLOUT Christian Metal!!  Help The Full Armor of God Broadcast keep giving the devil a blackeye on Wikipedia!Ivanhoe610fa (talk) 03:35, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Barnstar
Wow, thanks a lot for that barnstar award; that totally made my day. Yeah, I try really hard to get articles shaped up and arranged well, especially the music ones. You yourself are a pretty good editor as well. Thanks again for this well-appreciated barnstar. Backtable Speak to Me about what I have done  18:37, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Drottnar
It's fine if the label owner said that. It doesn't really matter to me, justs seems like people could get the wrong idea about them. Thanks, MOO (talk) 15:25, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

NEW Full Armor of God Broadcast article
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MySpace as refs
WP:ELNO starts by saying "Except for a link to an official page of the article's subject" from which I infer that a MySpace link to Theocracy when speaking about the band is valid. I have restored that portion of your edit on Christian metal. Thanks for the vigilant work. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:42, 16 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks for clearing that up. --Azure Shrieker (talk) 15:21, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

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Christian metal talk
Reply. Unreliable sources--3family6 (talk) 02:13, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Project 86
Am I making too much of the issue on the talk page? --Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:29, 15 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Maybe a little. Debating on a band's status tend to leave nowhere; it's a constant subject matter on certain forums. I personally would not add the C-tag to band articles if not necessary, faith is such a personal matter, and I like it when it's kept as an inside knowledge betweeen band and fans. It creates a special relationship with the music.--Azure Shrieker (talk) 19:47, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Kekal maintainers
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 * I'm ok with that. If I find something reliable and note-worthy, I'll contribute it to the article.--Azure Shrieker (talk) 19:47, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

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Nomination of Endtime Productions for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Endtime Productions until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. North America1000 12:31, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

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