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While I have received your email, I do not intend to discuss the matter in question off-wiki. If you would like to discuss it, please either contact me on my talk page, or reply here. Seraphimblade Talk to me 21:24, 29 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Ok sure, i understand you have been overseeing the creation of a page for Cambridge Precision Ltd and new edits to an existing Gallyon page.
 * I am a former employee of Cambridge Precision Ltd and wish to create a page for them, i feel that they reach the criteria for notability following a number of national award wins in 2023, regional expansion, numerous newspaper links online and connections to Cambridge University as well as UK govenment regarding COVID-19.
 * It is only a simple page with some photos so they would have some presence on Wikipedia which i feel that they would deserve. Also i would like to update an exisiting Gallyon page with some up to date information and photos.
 * I am a former employee but am no longer employed by the business in any way.
 * I left on good terms and now wish to help them create a page.
 * Please let me know how this would fit in with your policy.
 * I understand that you have highly exacting standards, if you could please guide me in the matter i would be most grateful.
 * Thanks
 * RB
 * B1x1t1g (talk) 22:30, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Alright, so in order:
 * I don't "oversee" anything like that. I deleted one article on "Cambridge" since it was promotional, and took some promotional material out of the other one. Every editor on Wikipedia "oversees" everything, or at least anything they care to.
 * No one and nothing "deserves" an article. Either a subject is notable; that is, there is a substantial amount of reference material in reliable and independent sources, or there is not.
 * There was already a lot of promotional material about that "Gallyon" company&mdash;I got some, but there's a lot more in it. If you add anything, make sure it cites reliable, independent sources, and is written neutrally. And ensure that you understand how image licensing works here before you try to add any photos, especially if you're not the one who took them.
 * You can take a look at your first article, but I highly recommend that new editors spend a fair bit of time editing existing articles before trying to create a new one. Selecting an appropriate subject for a new article and then writing it is one of the more difficult things to do here, so without any experience at seeing what articles should look like and learning things like neutrality and how to find appropriate sources, your chances of success are not high. Also, if you do try to create a new article, make sure you don't do it backward. Find high quality sources that cover the subject in depth first, and then base the article on only what those sources have to say. Don't just write whatever comes to mind and then try to find sources later. And if you once worked for the company, especially stay away from anything that's just your personal knowledge, but is not verified by any published source. And if you don't find a substantial number of reliable, independent sources that cover the subject in reasonable depth, well, you'd need to pick something else to write about, since an article on that subject would not be appropriate. Seraphimblade Talk to me 00:37, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok thank you then:
 * - I will look to create a Cambridge Precision Ltd page that has less promotional copy, perhaps i can share it with you first?
 * - With regards to Gallyon i have found out who took the photos so will reupload them and credit appropriately.
 * - I am not sure about which other pages i could edit? I am not that knowledgeable about other things unfortunately! I made sure to include all my sources and citations for the two pages so will look to resubmit my edits if appropriate?
 * Thanks RB B1x1t1g (talk) 14:39, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not very interested in helping personally with it. First, this looks like marketroid type stuff, if not flat out undisclosed paid editing, and I'm certainly not helping with any of that. The draft and articles for creation process would be used in that case. Secondly, it seems what I'm saying is kind of going in one ear and out the other. Giving "credit" is not even close to what would be required to use images in an article; they must be released by their copyright holder (generally the photographer who took it) under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license, or one compatible with it. Seraphimblade Talk to me 15:15, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok well i am not a marketroid, the copy used is purely descriptive, i will look to remove any descriptions that are not based purely on fact. With regards to images then i have contacted the owner for permission and will look to get these added with his permission in the future. B1x1t1g (talk) 16:53, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Cambridge Precision Ltd (July 10)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DaxServer was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Cambridge Precision Ltd and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
 * If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/New_question&withJS=MediaWiki:AFCHD-wizard.js&page=Draft:Cambridge_Precision_Ltd Articles for creation help desk], on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DaxServer&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Cambridge_Precision_Ltd reviewer's talk page] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

— DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 17:51, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Cambridge Precision Ltd (July 11)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by RPSkokie was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Cambridge Precision Ltd and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
 * If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/New_question&withJS=MediaWiki:AFCHD-wizard.js&page=Draft:Cambridge_Precision_Ltd Articles for creation help desk], on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:RPSkokie&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Cambridge_Precision_Ltd reviewer's talk page] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

RPSkokie (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

July 2023
Hello, B1x1t1g, welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. Your editing pattern indicates that you may be using multiple accounts or coordinating editing with people outside Wikipedia, such as. Our policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow this, and users who misuse multiple accounts may be blocked from editing. If you operate multiple accounts directly or with the help of another person, please disclose these connections. Thank you. Fancy Refrigerator (talk) 23:31, 15 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey there, i created a new account as my drafts were deleted so i wanted a new one. Thanks B1x1t1g (talk) 07:03, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

August 2023
Hello B1x1t1g. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:B1x1t1g. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. MrOllie (talk) 19:01, 29 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi MrOllie I am not being paid in any way for edits to this Gallyon page, it is merely from a local interest standpoint - please can you reinstate my previous edits - Thanks B1x1t1g (talk) 20:41, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * No, they were blatant advertising. MrOllie (talk) 20:47, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * How can i prove to you that it is not advertising? Why can i not make edits to the page? The language was extremely bland and matter of fact. B1x1t1g (talk) 14:44, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I updated the page with new history on the business and the products which they offer, this is not advertising, these are pure facts. B1x1t1g (talk) 14:48, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * The text you added was plainly advertising. There is no way to convince someone that reality runs counter to the evidence provided by their own eyes. MrOllie (talk) 14:51, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Now you are being vindictive trying to delete a page which i have submitted for review? Purely describing a local business and its function and products is not advertising. B1x1t1g (talk) 15:07, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * It is not 'vindictive' to keep advertising off of Wikipedia, it is basic maintenance. And it was obviously advertising. It was tagged as such, and rather than fixing that you resubmitted it. Wikipedia doesn't allow advertising anywhere - not even in drafts. An admin agreed and the draft is now deleted. MrOllie (talk) 15:18, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * This is really petty dude. It is not advertising to write a matter of fact description of a company and its awards and achievements. I responded right away to inform you that i am a person merely looking to contribute to Wikipedia about a medium sized local business. B1x1t1g (talk) 09:08, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
 * It is not advertising to write a matter of fact description of a company - that is obviously not what you did. MrOllie (talk) 13:22, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok are there any particular parts you consider advertising? I can then work to rewrite these parts. B1x1t1g (talk) 09:22, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * All of your additions, from top to bottom, were advertorial. It is concerning that you don't see this yourself. Do you have a background in corporate communications? I have found it takes people who are used to such a writing style a long time to adapt to styles that value neutral writing. MrOllie (talk) 12:33, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok then thank you for your feedback i will try and see if i can make it more neutral or seek help to adapt it further - best wishes. B1x1t1g (talk) 13:31, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Cambridge Precision Ltd


A tag has been placed on Draft:Cambridge Precision Ltd, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. MrOllie (talk) 14:52, 1 September 2023 (UTC)