User talk:B5b6y

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Joseph Merrick image
Hello, welcome to Wikipedia! thanks for adding an image to Joseph Merrick; the main image was removed a while ago because licensing problems and I have been meaning to replace it for a while. Unfortunately, the image you uploaded to WIkimedia Commons is not licensed correctly, so it shouldn't be added to the article just yet. Specifically, you have marked the image as being your "own work", when you are not the photographer of the image (unless you are extremely old!) If is can be properly licensed & described on Commons, then we can certainly add the image to the article, but that should be sorted out first.-- Beloved Freak  23:17, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for your help. I just joined Wikipedia this evening and was unaware of what was meant when asked if it was "my work", please accept my apologies for the missunderstanding, I intend to adress the problem as soon as possible. --B5b6y (talk) 23:22, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It's no problem. I have been meaning to add that same image (albeit black and white) and one reason I hadn't got around to it yet was that I didn't have all the necessary information. We will need to add: the date it was taken (if known, otherwise it can be approximate), the person who took it (again, if known) and where/when it was first published. The kind of info we have might determine the license we have to use. Some of the other images of Merrick are more straight forward because they were published in eg. the BMJ. For starters, where did you get the image from? From a book, or from a website? Does the place you got it from have any more information about it? I have some books on Merrick, but I don't have access to them (until next week). I'm not sure that they had much info on this particular image though. Have a look at some of the others (like this one) for example - bearing in mind they might need more info added too.-- Beloved Freak  23:36, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I have been doing some research on the matter and the photo was take around 1890, and is currently property of the Royal London Hospital (or so I am lead to believe.) As for where I found the image, this is what confused me about it being my own work or not as I aquired the image from Google but as a black and white file, I then edited the colour in myself which is where my confusion began after being asked who's work it was. I must ask for purposes of copyright if it's ok for me to use a photograph of such a description. --B5b6y (talk) 23:57, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, that's a good start. I see on one image over on commons, you've added "Joe Keeley" as the author. Who's he? To be honest, this is not an area I know too much about, and I get a bit confused about what happens to the license when you modify an existing file. I think the best thing would be to ask a question at the help desk over at Commons: Commons:Help desk. I suggest you add a question to the bottom of that page explaining where you got it, how you changed it, and asking how to fill in the description & license. Let's see what people say there who know more about this. Another issue for adding this to the article is whether or not people want a re-coloured photo added, or the original. The original was removed a couple of months ago because it wasn't licensed properly on Commons, and as I said, I've been meaning to readd it. That is the most appropriate image for the top of the page, I believe, rather than any of the naked/semi-naked images which are further down. We should probably have a conversation at Talk:Joseph Merrick to determine by consensus whether we should use the colour one or the black and white. That's not to say there's anything wrong with yours, and it can still be on Commons, linked to from the article, I'm just not sure it it's preferable to the original or not. This may sound like a lot of nitpicking, but the eventual aim for this article is to get it to be a Featured Article. Featured articles are the rigorously peer reviewed and considered to be the very best of our articles, and are eligible to be shown on the main page. First priority is to get it licensed properly though so it doesn't get deleted in the meantime!-- Beloved Freak  15:37, 3 June 2011 (UTC)