User talk:BCingU Eh/sandbox

Antonio's comment/question
Antonio said: I feel that Helmholtz was involved in Neuroscience more. Would it be ok to turn Neuroscience into its on section? J.R. Council (talk) 04:34, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes - that's why Helmholtz would be a good topic, even though the page is already pretty well developed. Helmholtz's contributions to neuroscience need more attention, and making this into a major section is the right thing to do.

Matthew's questions
Is it okay to mention Albert Einstein since Helmholtz contributed to his research? Can I use a article more than once on a different part of the article.
 * Helmholtz influenced a lot of scientists - if there's a connection with Einstein, that's fine to mention it. However, be sure to focus on his contributions to psychology. Yes - you can cite an article more than once. J.R. Council (talk) 04:41, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Zach's question/comment
Is it okay to explain what helmholtz was talking about with the conservation of energy? Also his theory of electromagnetism?

Yordanova, J., Kolev, V., & Rothenberger, A. (2009). Functional neuroelectric oscillations along the lifespan. Journal Of Psychophysiology, 23(4), 153-156. Doi:10.1027/0269-8803.23.4.15

Heinrich, H., Kolev, V., Rothenberger, A., & Yordanova, J. (2009). Event-related oscillations and cognitive processes in children: A review of methodical aspects and empirical findings. Journal Of Psychophysiology, 23(4), 199-207. Doi:10.1027/0269-8803.23.4.199

Assignment 6
Please follow the instructions. Put the outline, To Do list, and refs on this page. Sign your work.
 * important - put the outline in outline form. J.R. Council (talk) 04:52, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

To-Do-List
I will give neuroscience its on section i will speak about his work and emphasis on his extension and modification of Müller's theory of specific nerve energies. Like matt side i will make sure all my reference and cited are correct. I will also be adding new material to Neuroscience section. Antoniorodgers (talk) 19:59, 6 March 2015 (UTC) Antonio

I will be adding information on the conservation of energy as well as visual perception but also making them two different sections. I am going to make sure that my reference and material that I cite are correct and in the right format. 64.255.142.36 (talk) 05:28, 7 April 2015 (UTC)thatkidcolvin64.255.142.36 (talk) 05:28, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Outline
Neuroscience

Helmholtz's contributions to sensation and perception, with emphasis on his extension and modification of Müller's theory of specific nerve energies. The material is again presented in biographical-chronological context. Helmholtz's views on depth and space perception, and his empirical theory of knowledge, which are also compared to Müller's views. It will be shown that Helmholtz remained stimulated by the thoughts and doctrines of Johannes Müller in the sensory-perceptual part of his career. Antoniorodgers (talk) 20:07, 6 March 2015 (UTC) Antonio

Antonio - the section above is plagiarized. See original below. I am giving you 0 points for this part of the assignment. If I catch you doing this again, I will most likely fail you for the whole course. DO NOT COPY OTHER PEOPLE'S WORK. J.R. Council (talk) 20:41, 10 March 2015 (UTC) J Hist Neurosci. 2002 Sep;11(3):234-54. The neuroscience of Helmholtz and the theories of Johannes Müller. Part 2: Sensation and perception. Finger S1, Wade NJ. Author information Abstract

In this, our continuation paper on Helmholtz and Müller, we examine '''Helmholtz's contributions to sensation and perception, with emphasis on his extension and modification of Müller's theory of specific nerve energies. The material is again presented in biographical-chronological context. We also examine Helmholtz's views on depth and space perception, and his empirical theory of knowledge, which are also compared to Müller's views. It will be shown that Helmholtz remained stimulated by the thoughts and doctrines of Johannes Müller in the sensory-perceptual part of his career''', which began early in the 1850s and ended with his death. Nevertheless, Helmholtz's own experiments and new discoveries by others sometimes led him to quite different conclusions.

Conservation of Energy – There are many forces in the world such as heat, light, gravity for example and these can possibly be interchangeable, but also can never be creat nor destroyed.

Visual Perception – Being able to process information through

Fancher, R. (1979). The Sensing and Perceiving Mind. In Pioneers of psychology. New York: Norton.

Thatkidcolvin (talk) 13:12, 16 April 2015 (UTC)thatkidcolvinThatkidcolvin (talk) 13:12, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

You need to start working on this.
Matthew, Antonio, and Zach - - this assignment is worth 25 points. It does require some effort, so you need to start working on it now. J.R. Council (talk) 22:39, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Good start!
Matthew has made a really good start getting content down that will add to the current article on Helmholtz. Antonio has also added some material. However, the quality of writing is not going to be acceptable for Wikipedia. Antonio, it would be a good idea to go to the Center for Writers in the library and get them to help you with your grammar. Zach - I don't see anything from you. You could be finding material to add to this article even by reading the textbook for this class. J.R. Council (talk) 02:45, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Some progress, but not ready yet
Not much has changed on this except I see that Antonio has added some material. Unfortunately, the quality of writing is not going to be acceptable for moving much of this material to the main article. I can work with your group on this, but you guys have to take responsibility and put some effort into this. One thing that you can do to start is work on a good introductory paragraph. This is the most important part of the article, and actually pops up when someone does a Google search on a term. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Lead_section for instructions. J.R. Council (talk) 16:33, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

More plagiarism
I have found more plagiarism in the article. Now it is Matthew who has committed plagiarism. There are passages copied word for word from Research in Ophthalmology2014; 3(1): 1-4,doi:10.5923/j.ophthal.20140301.01,Helmholtz Who Revolutionized Ophtalmology, by  Nāsir pūyān (Nasser Pouyan). I found the article online at http://article.sapub.org/10.5923.j.ophthal.20140301.01.html. I have already failed Antonio for part of an assignment for plagiarism, and now I have to do the same for Matthew. I am deducting 10 points from Assignment 8. YOU CAN"T DO THIS! Please rephrase all of this article that has been plagiarized in your own words. J.R. Council (talk) 21:59, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, the plagiarized section described above was posted on March 6, so 10 points are deducted from Assignment 6. J.R. Council (talk) 18:36, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

More problems: I don't have more time to spend tracking down palagiarized passages. This is certainly enough to convince me that everything Matthew has written for this article is suspect. I will be deducting more points from Assignments 7 and 8. All of this needs to be totally cleaned up. Either delete it and start over, or put it all in your own words while attributing the information to proper sources. J.R. Council (talk) 19:09, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Another plagiarized passage, added March 27: ‘‘If one of two mingling lights be continuously altered (whilst the other remains unchanged), the impression of the mixed light also is continuously changed’’ This is from a Google Book, The London, Edinburgh and Dublin Philosophical Magazine and Journal of Science, Professor Grassman on the Theory of compound colors - page 256.J.R. Council (talk) 18:56, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
 * 2) "The Helmholtz color theory, was satisfactory to the other psychologists because it explained the three colors merely as a psychological schematization to take in all of the accepted data of color vision, but Helmholtz was not concerned with a definite hypotheses in the physiological unknown. Helmholtz theory assumes red, green, and bluish-violet (indigo) as the three primary colors; this is not because the theory rests on this assumption, but these colors happened to the ones he started off with for simplicity's sake, and there has not been any reason for changing it." This is paraphrased, but not attributed. It seems to come from "Color theory and realism" by Knight Dunlap, Psych Review, vol. 22.

Antonio's section
I see that Antonio has added quite a bit of new material. The quality of the writing could be better, but he is using his own words and is including reference citations. Way to go, Antonio! While you are working on this, you should be following my instructions to generate proper Wikipedia citations and reference list. See recent Blackboard announcement. J.R. Council (talk) 19:37, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Plagiarized content needs to be corrected
I do not see any efforts to paraphrase the plagiarized sections so they are acceptable. J.R. Council (talk) 22:00, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Not suitable for publication
Due to questions of plagiarism in some sections and poor quality writing in others, I can't approve any of this article for transfer to the article main space. I will give partial credit to Antonio for the work he has done. J.R. Council (talk) 17:07, 5 May 2015 (UTC)