User talk:BISHOPN98

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Recent email
You recently contacted me about one particular article. I am no longer monitoring that article. The best place to ask your question is on the talk pages for those particular articles.

In general, you can find out who has made what changes to an article by viewing the article's history. Within the article history, you can compare each change or the before-and-after effects of a whole series of changes.

Note: If your browser or browser add-ons disable Javascript, set them to allow JavaScript for *.wikipedia.org. It will make such comparisons a bit easier. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  03:00, 11 April 2009 (UTC) updated 03:37, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest guideline
I notice you have "Bishop" in your name. I also notice that you are editing an article about a church. If you are a member of that church or a church that supports that one, or for that matter, a church that actively opposes that one, you should read my comments at Talk:Bible Way Church of Our Lord Jesus Christ. If this does not apply to you, please disregard and accept my apologies for wasting your time.

On another note, I undid your changes to Talk:Bible Way Church of Our Lord Jesus Christ because they looked like they were meant for Bible Way Church of Our Lord Jesus Christ. See Talk:Bible Way Church of Our Lord Jesus Christ for more details. This was a purely technical reversion and I take no stand on the content of your changes. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  03:36, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Regarding your recent email
Regarding your most recent email:

As I explained on Talk:Bible Way Church of Our Lord Jesus Christ edits I made were of a technical nature. I do not support any particular edit from a content perspective. If you have a problem with the content, replace it with correct content.

If you are affected by the conflict of interest guidelines, remove blatantly false content and put a note on the talk page with the correct content and reliable sources to back it up. For content you believe is false but for which you can't provide Wiki-reliable sources, make a case for its removal on the talk page. Documentation which is unpublished or which is published by a first-party source is generally not considered "reliable" in the Wikipedia sense of the word, but may be sufficient for removal of contradicting information. Note that there are many sources that Wikipedia does not consider "reliable" that are authentic and accurate, so please don't take "not Wikipedia reliable" as meaning the source is false. Read Reliable Sources for an explanation. 13:03, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Addendum: Anyone, including those affected by conflict-of-interest issues, may remove material which violates Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy.  This mainly goes for disparaging material about a person which reliable sources say is not true, or disparaging material about a person for which there is no listed reliable source that supports the claim.  It is not a free pass for people with conflicts of interest to remove material about a person that is supported by a reliable source, nor is it license to remove material about an organization, dead person, or other subject.  These issues should be raised on the talk page and removed by someone without a conflict of interest.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  04:00, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Possible name-clone
Did you make this edit by ? If not, someone is using your good name. Post a note on WP:AN/I and the account will be renamed so people aren't confused.

If you did make it, please note that links to "Special:" URLs on both Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Commons are not suitable for linking, so I undid your edit. They are dynamically generated and what you see when you click on these links is not the same as what I see. In particular, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Watchlist/ generates a list of pages that you are watching. If you are not logged in, it generates an error page.

If you control both accounts, please pick one and make User:Bishopn98 and User talk:Bishopn98into redirects to User:BISHOPN98 and User talk:BISHOPN98 respectively, and put at least a word or two on User:BISHIPN98 so the redirect works properly. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  02:58, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

A few of notes
A few notes based on your last email:


 * I will be checking User talk:Davidwr and User talk:BISHOPN98 daily until our conversations die down, so there is no need to email me, at least not for the next few days. The best way to start a NEW conversation with me is to add a note to the end of User talk:Davidwr.  Wikipedia will alert me when I log in that you've added something.  The best way to continue a conversation is to add a note to the existing conversation.  Be sure to indent by putting one or more colons before each paragraph you type so it's clear that it's a reply.  You can see this in my reply to myself above, in User talk:BISHOPN98.  Read Talk pages for more details on how discussions work on Wikipedia.


 * A good way to learn about Wikipedia is to re-read the links that are in the welcome message at the top of this page. Help and Welcome are also good resources.


 * New users are not allowed to upload files. See Autoconfirmed for details.


 * As for your other account, BishopN98, simply do the following:
 * Create a user page for BISHOPN98. It can be blank, but it should be something.  See User page for guidance.
 * Create redirects from the User and User talk pages of Bishopn98 to BISHOPN98.
 * Log in as Bishopn98 then edit User:Bishopn98 and add the single line
 * While logged in as Bishopn98, edit User talk:Bishopn98 and add the single line
 * Alternatively, you can use the "Doppleganger" template instead of using redirects:
 * While logged in as Bishopn98, edit both User:Bishopn98 and User talk:Bishopn98 and add the following line to each:
 * For more information on the doppleganger template, see doppleganger.
 * While logged in as Bishopn98, edit both User:Bishopn98 and User talk:Bishopn98 and add the following line to each:
 * For more information on the doppleganger template, see doppleganger.
 * For more information on the doppleganger template, see doppleganger.

A few more things:

In some of your recent edits, you are not adding reliable sources to material. Material without reliable sources is subject to tagging with the fact tag, which looks like this: &#91;citation needed&#93;, and eventual removal. The entire article is tagged with a more-citations-needed tag, so other editors may remove unsourced content without specifically tagging it. Please go back and add reliable sources as references. The most common way to add a reference is "in line," like so:
 * Northrop Grumman in Newport News constructed a full-scale replica of {{USS|Monitor}}. The replica was laid down in February, 2005 and completed just two months later. . This example is taken from Ironclad, a Wikipedia Featured Article.

This will cause the references to show up at the end of the article, provided the article has either a or {{reflist}} statement in the References section. I just added a {{reflist}} section so the article is now ready for in-line references.

I am also concerned about your conflict of interest on an article you are heavily editing. Please read and follow the COI guideline.

I hope this helps. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  13:49, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I undid your redirect
I don't think you meant to turn this talk page into a redirect to itself, so I undid your edit.

You probably meant to turn User talk:Bishopn98 into a redirect here.

I realize it's generally bad manners to muck around with other people's talk pages like that, but as you are new, as it was almost certainly not your intent to make it into a circular redirect, and as this page is the best on-Wiki way to talk to you, I boldly removed the redirect. If I offended you, I apologize.

I did not undo your circular redirect to User:BISHOPN98. While confusing, it's not stopping people from talking to you so I'll leave that up to you to fix. It's perfectly fine if that page is blank, to turn it into a redirect to User talk:BISHOPN98, or to fill it with some information about yourself. I would caution against putting too much personal information on your user page though - don't put anything on it you don't want the whole world to know.

You probably also want to turn User:Bishopn98 into a redirect to User:BISHOPN98.

Regarding the 2 recent emails: I have no idea why you are referring me to attorneys. I am just one of tens of thousands of regular editors to Wikipedia, and one of hundreds of thousands if not millions of editors with registered accounts. I have no reason to call them, nor do they have any reason to talk to me.

My goal in conversing with you is to help you technically and to give you some information on Wiki culture, not to edit the article you are editing. I have little interest in the subject of that article. My main concerns are the same as they are for all articles - that the article be verifiable, free from bias, and if possible, edited or at least reviewed by people who are not connected to the church or who otherwise have a conflict of interest but who are familiar enough with the topic to spot and correct any biases that might unintentionally creep in. You've got information that can improve the article. To the extend that that information can be verified from reliable, 3rd-party sources and that it can be added in a neutral way, it should be added.

Finally, if possible, communicate with me on-Wiki rather than by email. If I've been absent from Wikipedia for more than a day or two, drop me an email saying to check this page, and I will check it. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  23:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Linking 101
See Citing sources and Citing sources/Example edits for different methods for instructions on how to link items. There are various ways to link items, the most common being a modified version of the "footnotes" system described in Citing sources. The modification being that instead of the section being titled "Footnotes," the or line is placed in the References section.

As for you making these edits vs. having someone else do it for you: Edit as you will, just bear in mind the conflict of interest guideline as you do. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  06:16, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

File:Revoking Fradulent Files Page 1.png listed for deletion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Revoking Fradulent Files Page 1.png, has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.  S ven M anguard  Wha?  22:24, 20 July 2011 (UTC)