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Unreferenced BLPs
Hello BRG! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 8 of the articles that you created  are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the list:

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 * 8) Dudley Mecum (songwriter) -

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Ikip 05:06, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

(refactored) Ikip 04:09, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Viertelpfünder mit Käse
In Mesures usuelles, you added a Viertelpfünder mit Käse as a fact. I've never seen one and only heard of it in the horrible synchronization of Pulp Fiction. It's a Royal in Germany. No Viertelpfünder anywhere. Do you have any sources? 78.55.50.92 (talk) 21:20, 2 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Heck, I saw it at a McD's when I was in Germany -- but that was in 1969, so they could have changed it since. -- BRG (talk) 21:09, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

We can't go on like this...
"Summertime (song)" is huge now, and looks terrible. How can we include versions w/out ending up like this? Gareth E Kegg (talk) 18:41, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Biographies of Living persons solution: Projectification?
As someone who commented on the BLP workshop I created, please review this proposal to see if it is something that the community would support.

Harsh constructive criticism is very welcome!

Better to figure out the potential objections now. I am looking to remedy any potential objections by the community.

Thanks. Okip (formerly Ikip) 03:20, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Category:Orchestra leaders
Hi, I just came across Category:Orchestra leaders which you created a number of years ago, and I've been scratching my head about how to determine who might belong it, as distinct from Category:Conductors. So I'm wondering if you could explain what you had in mind -- and hopefully provide concise inclusion criteria. Thanks! Cgingold (talk) 11:47, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi again, I thought I'd try again before I lose track of this. It would really help to have your thoughts on this before I proceed. Regards, Cgingold (talk) 02:54, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your detailed reply! I want to give it some thought, and then I'll get back to you. Cgingold (talk) 13:04, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Final discussion for Requests for comment/Biographies of living people
Hello, I note that you have commented on the first phase of Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

As this RFC closes, there are two proposals being considered:
 * 1) Proposal to Close This RfC
 * 2) Alternate proposal to close this RFC: we don't need a whole new layer of bureaucracy

Your opinion on this is welcome. Okip  02:03, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Blue Room (song)


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Proposed deletion of Blue Room (song)


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I am puzzled
What is happening? Goochelaar (talk) 23:15, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

In a very short time you have inserted a lot of "citation needed" tags, all in articles I have started or to which I have contributed in significant measure. Are you trying to make some point I do not understand? Thanks, Goochelaar  (talk) 23:29, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your answer. If you disagree with one of my edits, you are of course welcome to revert it, possibly explaining why in the article's talk page. Moreover, if you have something to tell me, please do, rather than sending a circuitous message through a barrage of edits (are you familiar with WP:POINT?).
 * As to your book, I am not the one who fixed the guideline about self-published sources:
 * "Anyone can create a website or pay to have a book published, then claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason self-published media&mdash;whether books, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, blogs, personal pages on social networking sites, Internet forum postings, or tweets&mdash;are largely not acceptable."
 * So, nobody here is bound to check "whether the mathematics is relevant and accurate" in your book, but rather, if necessary, to cite a reliable source instead. I have nothing against you, of course! But I find WP guidelines, on the whole, to be sound, and I dislike seeing them disregarded. Happy editing, Goochelaar  (talk) 21:43, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


 * First of all, please do not resort to personal attacks, as in your sentence "I don't understand that you cannot realize this."
 * Next, you very correctly say "You can't make up mathematics; it's either correct (and thus, verifiable without sources!) or not". I could not agree more. But if so, why are you insisting on inserting this particular source, with which you could be seen has having a conflict of interests? You'd better remove the reference, and insert in the article the mathematical argument required there. Nobody can object to a correct mathematical argument; lacking that, I can be interested in a reference to a reliable (yes, indeed!) source: the first research paper some result appeared in, or a well-known treatise or textbook, at the very least because they are easier to find in a public or university library. Goochelaar  (talk) 21:14, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

BLP sticky PROD
Hi ! If there is any consensus at  at all,  it  is that  the entire discussion has become a tangled confusion, and as a result both  proponents and opponents of the issues under discussion  are abandoning ship. None of us want this. It is still not  clear which  way  consensus will  fall and your contributions to the discussion are invaluable. However, In an attempt to  keep  the policy  discussion on an even track, some users have decided to  start  the ball rolling for clarity by creating a special  workshop pages. The first of these is for the technical development  of a template at  WT:BLP PROD TPL in  case policy is decided for it. The taskforce pages are designed keep irrelevant stuff off the policy discussion  and talk  page, and help a few of us to  move this whole debate towards a decision of some kind or another. The pages will be linked in a way  that watchers will  still find their way  to them. This move is not intended to influence any  policy whatsoever; It  is to keep  the discussion  pages focussed on the separate issues. Cheers. --Kudpung (talk) 22:48, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

DC10 Meetup
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Meetup/DC_10
Check out the new things that the Smithsonian is offering us! Sadads (talk) 15:45, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Meetup/DC 11
Hey, just in case you missed it, there is an oppurtunity to get a free dinner this Tuesday August 11 and a chance to meet and hang out talk about WikiProject United States Public Policy and WP:GLAM/SI. Sorry that this is so late in the game, I was hoping the e-mail would be a better form of contact for active members (if you want to get on the e-mail list send me an User e-mail ). Hope that you can attend, User:Sadads (talk)11:40, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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WikiXDC: Wikipedia 10th Birthday!
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Wikimania 2012 bid, DC chapter & next meetup!

 * 1) At WikiXDC in January, User:Harej proposed that DC submit a bid to host Wikimania 2012. A bid and organizing committee is being formed and seeks additional volunteers to help. Please look at our bid page and sign up if you want to help out.  You can also signup for the bid team's email list.
 * 2) To support the Wikimania bid, more events like WikiXDC, and outreach activities like collaborations with the Smithsonian (ongoing) and National Archives, there also has been discussion of forming Wikimedia DC, as an official Wikimedia chapter.  You can express interest and contribute to chapter discussions on the Wikimedia DC Meta-Wiki pages.
 * 3) To discuss all this and meet up with special guest, Dutch Wikipedian User:Kim Bruning, there will be a meetup, Meetup/DC 16 this Tuesday at 7pm, at Capitol City Brewery, Metro Center. There will be a pre-meetup Wikimania team meeting at 6pm at the same location.

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So apparently, I got hacked...
Apparently, someone broke into my Gmail and used it to spam. I've since changed my password to something really strong. Thanks for letting me know. SchuminWeb (Talk) 18:39, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Too Good to Be True (song)


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Shiloh, New Jersey
Hi, BRG. Way back in 2003, you moved Shiloh, New Jersey to Shiloh, Cumberland County, New Jersey. I was just wondering why you did this. Is there another Shiloh in NJ? A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 01:43, 21 April 2011 (UTC)


 * How about that. I had never heard of this other Shiloh (nor have I heard of the Places Named database!). Thanks for pointing that out for me. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 18:13, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

DC Meetup: May 7 @ Tenleytown Library
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Proposed deletion of For Sentimental Reasons (Dinah Shore/Proper Records album)


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Proposed deletion of For Sentimental Reasons (Dinah Shore/ASV album)


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Nomination of For Sentimental Reasons (Dinah Shore/ASV album) for deletion
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Dinah

 * Tell me how you think a source consisting entirely of a track listing is "reliable third party coverage" sufficient for a deprod. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 20:08, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, so you think "notability" is a crock then huh? Then why don't you go ahead and make an article on your toenails? I'd LOVE to see you fight for that to be kept. (Seriously, "It exists" is not a reason to keep. You MUST have more than just a track listing for an album. And "a few years ago", even then, it was NEVER acceptable for an article to be sourced to a website with literally nothing but a track list.) Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 01:09, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * So tell me how you think the source is NON-TRIVIAL. Any album ever made will have a tracklist and release date somewhere. Even something spit out by some no-hit wonder 30 years ago. Do you really think you can hinge a whole article on "It was released on X date via Q Records, and has songs Z, Y and A" with LITERALLY no other info beyond that? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 19:25, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I told you three times. A review of some sort would be enough for notability; albums that charted and/or were certified by the RIAA or a similar institution are generally considered notable too. I've found no reviews, chart positions or certifications. "A collection of the most important hits by a major artist is per se notable." — No it's not. Notability is NEVER inherited. It's entirely possible for a notable artist to put out a non-notable album. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 14:53, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

GLAM-Wiki Baltimore meetup
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The WikiProject National Archives Newsletter
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Proposed deletion of Mangos (song)


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Nomination of Too Good to Be True (1936 song) for deletion
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Re: Too Good to Be True
Hi BRG - we have you to thank as well for creating the article with such detail to begin with. When I clicked on the deletion discussion, the first thing that caught my eye was how many notable people had recorded the song. That's when I figured it was an article that could be kept, and I'm glad Google Books turned up some additional information. It can get tricky finding online material on songs whose popularity predate the Internet by almost 60 years. Even a standard as well-known as "It Don't Mean a Thing (If It Ain't Got That Swing)" is currently an unsourced article ... maybe that will be next to be prodded! But seriously, thanks for the kind words and again for your work on the article. Cheers,  Gongshow  Talk 19:27, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Song table header
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Backstage at the Smithsonian Libraries
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DC Meetup #33
December 10 is Ada Lovelace's birthday! Not only was she the world's first computer programmer, but also the world's first female open source developer! Come celebrate with Wikimedia District of Columbia at Busboys & Poets for an informal get together!

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Wikimedia DC Holiday Party and Wiki Loves Monuments Exhibition
Please join Wikimedia DC and four other local media nonprofits—the National Press Club's Young Members Committee, 100Reporters, IRE and the Fund for Investigative Journalism—in winding down another year with a night of well-mannered frivolity.

The festivities will take place on Friday evening from 6:30 PM to 9:00 PM in the Zenger Room on the 13th Floor of the National Press Club, located on 529 14th Street NW, near Metro Center. There will be meat and vegetarian appetizers as well as a cash bar with specially reduced drink prices all night long. In addition, we will be exhibiting the finalists of the Wiki Loves Monuments photo contest at the event.

Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 04:40, 13 December 2012 (UTC)