User talk:BSFineArts/sandbox

This is the talk page of my sandbox page of the request page of an article about Brian Scott Fine Arts. or something like that. I notice that while I am in Pacific Standard Timezone, my talk page for my user sandbox page is not.

I am just going to paste here the info i got today when I emailed someone from Wikipedia for help.

Re: [Ticket#2020061510008568] Can you recommend an author to create a Wikipedia entry for my company ?

Dear Christine Randolph,

Sorry to hear that you're having trouble, I know that Wikipedia can be confusing to start out with. Unfortunately, creating a new Wikipedia article from scratch is one of the most complicated things that you can do on Wikipedia, which is why we typically direct new contributors toward the Requested Articles process. I can point you to some useful resources (in addition to what I sent you in my last email):

- An Introduction to Wikipedia:  - The Teahouse, a message board on Wikipedia for newer contributors to get help from more experienced editors: 

That said, I will caution you: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a means of advertising or promotion. In order for Brian Scott Fine Arts to have a Wikipedia article, it needs to have already received significant coverage in published sources independent of the organization itself. If you can provide a few independent, reliable sources that have directly discussed the organization in detail, that would go a long way toward demonstrating the notability necessary to publish and maintain a Wikipedia article.

Yours sincerely, Jeff Thompson

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06/15/2020 18:16 - Christine Randolph wrote:

> Maybe if you want to discourage people from using paid services, stop sending us > down a rabbit hole each time we try to do it ourselves. > I just went round and round from setting up my account (BSfinearts) and being > asked to edit the user page (click here) and then being told that it would be > better if I did not do that and could I click here and sent up a draft and send it > in and then told that this is not a good way to set up a draft and click here to > go elsewhere. so I clicked and got back to where I started. etc. > > I understand you do not want too many crazy articles but at the same time. Do you > have to be the enigma machine of all enigma machines when someone has a legitimate > (future livelihood somewhat depends on it) demand for an article ? And I am > talking COVID and livelihoods falling by the wayside like never before. (mostly > because almost 8 BIO livelihoods to be considered on the planet today) > > > Luna Lake > visit me @ amazon.com/author/lunalake > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Wikipedia Volunteer Response Team  > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 11:04 AM > To: Christine Randolph  > Subject: Re: [Ticket#2020061510008568] Can you recommend an author to create a > Wikipedia entry for my company ? > > Dear Christine Randolph, > > Thank you for contacting Wikipedia for information about hosting an article about > your organization on our website. We appreciate your interest in Wikipedia, but > we don't actually take direct "requests" for the creation of articles via email, > and we don't have the ability to recommend specific Wikipedia editors to assist > you. We also discourage people from writing or editing articles about themselves, > their companies, their clients, or their products and services (for more about > why, please see  and > ). > > However, you may suggest your article topic to Wikipedia editors by adding it to > one of the lists at . > Please note that you should add the title (in this case, your name) to the > specific subject area listing where it best fits. > > Some warnings about the Requested Articles process: 1.) the entries there are not > ordered by time but by subject area, and a new entry there will have just as good > a chance of being picked and written about as a very, very old one, which means it > is not on a first come/ first served basis, 2.) our list of requested articles > contains tens of thousands of entries, many of which may never be written because > our article topics are chosen by our readers based on their own interests, and 3.) > adding your name to this list is no guarantee that anyone will necessarily ever > attempt to create the article on you. However, it is one way you can at least put > the idea out there for others to consider. > > If you are willing to write the article yourself, disclose your own > conflict-of-interest, and submit it for other editors to review, you can use our > Article Wizard  to write > it and then submit it to our Articles for Creation process >  where it can be considered for > publication— the backlog there is sometimes over 8 weeks long or greater, but is > more likely to result in the actual publication of the article than placing your > name on our Requested Articles list. > > One final note - We are aware of a number of individuals and companies who offer > paid editing services. They are not licensed or supported by Wikipedia or the > Wikimedia Foundation, and they are not guaranteed to be able to make you an > article (even though they may claim otherwise). In fact, many of them edit in > contravention of Wikipedia's terms of use. We do not recommend the use of such > services - It does not cost money to make a Wikipedia article! > > I hope this has been helpful. Again, thank you for your interest. > > Yours sincerely, > Jeff Thompson > > -- > Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/ > --- > Disclaimer: all mail to this address is answered by volunteers, and responses are > not to be considered an official statement of the Wikimedia Foundation. For > official correspondence, please contact the Wikimedia Foundation by certified mail > at the address listed on https://www.wikimediafoundation.org/ > > 06/15/2020 17:49 - Christine Randolph wrote: > > > It is called Brian Scott Fine Arts, website is bscottfinearts.ca. > > We are located in #BlackCreekMatters in beautiful BC, on Vancouver Island, We own > > and operate art galleries here and in Vancouver. We are a creative hub as > > painters, authors, (you could say influencers) locally and world wide. > > Next to Robert Bateman we are the only other West Coast artist collective with > > that kind of international success. > > We have sold over 3500 large paintings (oil as well as acrylics) since inception, > > all over the world, notably in Hong Kong and the USA, Germany and in Australia. > > > > Moving forward, what we really need is a Wikipedia entry. > > I hope you can recommend someone. > > With much anticipation, > > Luna Lake > > visit me @ amazon.com/author/lunalake > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am now wondering whether I would be within my rights alleging that Wikipedia deliberately discriminates against anyone but the most privileged by way of making things too complicated.