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July 2014
Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to 2014 insurgency in Donbass. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. RGloucester — ☎ 15:17, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

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Dates of Bosnian War
Baba Mica, I have tried to explain WP policy about RS, I have tried to be helpful in explaining the difference between what is generally regarded as the start date of an event, and other events which led up to that event. You appear to be uninterested in either of these, so be it. I do not wish to continue the discussion on my talk page, because your arguments are WP:OR and WP:other stuff exists.Pincrete (talk) 12:45, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Baba Mica, you also need to pay attention to WP:BRD. Once you've had an edit reverted, you need to discuss your proposed additions on the article's talk page rather than just making the same or a similar edit again. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:30, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

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Your contributed article, Iraqi insurgency (2011–14)


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 * This is not the way to extend an article. If the Iraqi insurgency (2011–13) needs to be extended then it should be discussed on the talk page and if agreed move the page to Iraqi insurgency (2011–14). This way the page history is kept. KylieTastic (talk) 12:46, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Your article Ледене очи
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Unsourced addition
Hello, I'm Cordless Larry. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Somali Civil War, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:54, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice. I certainly can. Just looking for a reference. :) --Baba Mica (talk) 22:01, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Before reinstating the date with a reference, I suggest reading Note 1 and the extensive discussion on the article talk page that resulted in that note. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:06, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

I found a source that confirms January 26, 1991 for the start of the civil war in Somalia.--Baba Mica (talk) 22:10, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, but the point made in that note is that different sources give different start dates. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:22, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Here's one of my case. I fought for years I ispamovao pages around the date of the beginning Bosnian War. Baba Mica (talk) 22:39, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Can I remind you of this discussion, Baba Mica, before you try edits like this again? Cordless Larry (talk) 21:19, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

They did not want to admit that the war began with the murder of Serbian civilians in Bascarsija on March 1, 1992. The international community believes that the start of the war on April 6 It is a day of recognition of the independent state of Bosnia and Herzegovina. He ignored all previous conflicts. The same dispute over the date of the beginning of the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina had on Russian Wikipedia where not only do not recognize the true beginning of the war on March 1. They are even bigger hypocrites, where as in accordance with rules that do not insult the other warring parties. Then they put the date as the beginning of the war in the spring of 1992. :D It's funny and sad at the same time.--Baba Mica (talk) 22:55, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Iraq humanitarian assistance
Feel free to wipe humanitarian assistance in Iraq. The infoboxes are reserved for military matters only. EkoGraf (talk) 01:50, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Battle of Aleppo (2012–2016)
The anonymous user is correct. Offensive is not over until they capture all of the districts. Pro-Kurdish twitter user not reliable sources until major media outlets also report it. EkoGraf (talk) 01:10, 13 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Didn't understand totally your last message but, the main article is about the battle for the city, not the province. The offensive article is specifically about rebels vs SAA (and SDF). No battle between SAA and Kurds. No reliable sources have yet confirmed the capture of the last half a dozen districts. EkoGraf (talk) 01:33, 13 December 2016 (UTC)


 * They are celebrating yes. But it has not totally ended. The rebels are still holding out in three districts. EkoGraf (talk) 01:56, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Wadi Barada
Hello, there are currently 2 articles about the battle in Wadi Barada, the Siege of Wadi Barada and the Wadi Barada offensive, both created on 27 December with a mere 3 hour difference. What do you think? Shouldn't they be merged? Editor abcdef (talk) 23:36, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Palmyra offensive (2016–17)
I would gladly do it but its a technical revert (since there already existed a previous article with the same name) and only an administrator can do it. EkoGraf (talk) 21:45, 23 January 2017 (UTC)


 * There are dozens of them. The request has to be posted at an appropriate administrator noticeboard. EkoGraf (talk) 02:15, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Dayr Hafir
Its still the same offensive, not a separate one, that was started in the direction of al-Bab as part of the Battle of al-Bab. Also, its still taking place in the Al-Bab Plateau. It would not make sense to make an article for an offensive from a start date that's weeks after the actual offensive started and ignore the previous one month of the offensive. It would be Original Research. EkoGraf (talk) 11:53, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, there's the question of notability as per Wikipedia policy on whether it would deserve its own article or not even if it wasn't part of the Battle of al-Bab during the first month. And the offensive is actually still pretty much part of the Battle of al-Bab since the SAA is still making attempts to capture Tadef (1 km from al-Bab). EkoGraf (talk) 11:59, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

2017 Khanasir offensive
See talk page. Not just me but another editor as well voiced concern regarding the reliability and also notability of the article. There are no sources confirming that there has been an organised offensive taking place by ether side near Khanasir, other than short-term assaults perpetrated by ether side. The capture of the eastern bank of the lake is more linked to the currently ongoing SAA offensive further north at the Kweires air-base and Al-Bab, and has already been mentioned in that article. Also, some of the sources you cited not only make no mention of an offensive but are unreliable and not accepted by Wikipedia standards (such as youtube and http://isis.liveuamap.com). EkoGraf (talk) 20:45, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Daraa ISIL offensive
Feel free to create a new article for ISIL's offensive in Daraa province. But don't lump it together with the rebel's offensive in Daraa city. Its a separate military operation. EkoGraf (talk) 18:13, 23 February 2017 (UTC)


 * As for the other battles you mentioned. They may or may not happen, but until they do we cann't create any articles per Wikipedia's policy (WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL). EkoGraf (talk) 18:31, 23 February 2017 (UTC)


 * There is no real Qaboun offensive. So far it has only been a few clashes around the district and some shelling but no real all-out assault on the district. So unless there is a large-scale operation taking place there is no reason to create an article for it. The offensive in eastern Aleppo by the SAA shouldn't be called Lake Assad offensive since its not the common term nor is it actually taking place near the lake (yet). I'll come up with a title myself and create an article for it tomorrow or the day after when I find the time. As for the ISIL offensive in Daraa, I would suggest the title ISIL Daraa offensive (February 2017) and we rename the other one to Rebel Daraa offensive (February 2017). EkoGraf (talk) 21:28, 23 February 2017 (UTC)


 * I already warned you this is against Wikipedia policy regarding WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL. The article you created Al-Quaboun offensive itself says per cited sources that a ground offensive has not started yet and that only artillery firing has so far took place. And also, you again cited liveumap which is not considered a reliable source by Wikipedia. Other media outlets also report that sporadic negotiations are still taking place to try and prevent any offensive. Wikipedia does not predict possible future events that could take place. This article is a prediction that also violates Wikipedia policy regarding Original Research. If no real ground offensive takes place in the next few days the article will have to be redirected. Only artillery shelling does not count. EkoGraf (talk) 14:50, 25 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Also, there is the issue of notability of the event. Wikipedia does not create articles for every possible minor clash or short-term operation that takes place in the conflict. Unless something is notable it does not deserve an article per Wikipedia policy. IF a ground offensive does take place, we will see if it becomes notable enough to warrant keeping the article. EkoGraf (talk) 14:55, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Aleppo offensive
East Aleppo offensive (February 2017) done as I said. EkoGraf (talk) 16:40, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Western Aleppo offensive
Hasn't become notable or large yet. We should wait a few more days to see how things play out. EkoGraf (talk) 23:42, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Palmyra offensive (2017)
Mr. EkoGraf, I think it is not appropriate title of the article Palmyra offensive (2017). Why do I say? Because it's still early. No offensive began on 12 January at Palmira, but the entire eastern province of Homs. Similarly, you submitted to the Al-Qaboun offensive (February 2017) I opened the paper prematurely. However, there are offensive in this village and who are fighting for the settlements. For Palmira battle has not started yet. Maybe tomorrow, the day after tomorrow ... But has not the Syrian army reached the entrance to the city. I think the title of Eastern Homs offensive (January-February 2017) the most appropriate until they start fighting for the city of Palmyra. Then you should open a new article Palmyra offensive (2017). It is very soon. --Baba Mica (talk) 18:02, 27 February 2017 (UTC)


 * No need for a new article. Current fighting is a continuation of the offensive that started at T4 on January 13 (Palmyra offensive (2017)). Its now obvious the offensive was launched with the intent of recapturing the whole Palmyra area. LightandDark2000 already properly renamed the article so it fits with the established template of all of the previous Palmyra offensive articles. Also, the previous SAA-led offensive a year ago was also launched not so far from T4 like the current one. Previously all of our Palmyra offensive articles included both the fighting in the city as well as in the desert and mountains outside it (like now). We never make articles for just the fighting inside the city because its usually a battle that lasts only a few hours or a day or two. So, everything is as it should be. We just continue editing Palmyra offensive (2017). EkoGraf (talk) 17:43, 1 March 2017 (UTC)


 * No sources that the entire eastern Homs province territory is the goal of the offensive. Sources at the moment indicate the only goal of the offensive is to retake areas that they lost in ISIL's December offensive, which is Palmyra and the areas around it. Speculating that Palmyra is just a stopover would be unsourced Original Research. EkoGraf (talk) 20:10, 1 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Whether you or me think Palmyra is significant or not does not really matter. Per Wikipedia's policy, notability is established based on how notable established sources think it is. And at the moment, all available sources regard Palmyra as notable enough. Plus, like I already said before, this is according to the already previous established naming template we have set with the previous offensives, see: Palmyra offensive (May 2015), Palmyra offensive (July–August 2015), Palmyra offensive (March 2016) and Palmyra offensive (December 2016). As for the Manbij article that you want to create. At the moment there is no need for an article, because the current Rebel/Turkish vs SDF/Kurdish fighting is sufficiently covered in the East Aleppo offensive (February 2017) article. IF and WHEN the rebels and Turkey really do launch a large-scale organised offensive towards Manbij we will see about creating an article, but for now they seem primarily intent on possibly reaching Arima and, like I said, we already are covering that as part of the East Aleppo offensive article. EkoGraf (talk) 02:41, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Serbian-Russian cooperation on Syria
The support sections of military infoboxes are reserved only for those who provide logistical/weapon military support to one of the belligerents. Its not reserved for those that provide humanitarian or political support. In regard to your five sources: 1st makes no mention of any kind of support by Serbia to Syria; 2nd and 3rd talk about humanitarian (not military) assistance provided; 4th talks about political (not military) support to Russia (not even Syria); 5th speculates about possible (emphasis on speculates and possible) Serb military assistance to the humanitarian mission (not that it actually was provided), and the source also notes the Serbian Ministry of Defense rejected any involvement by the Serbian military because Serbian laws do not allow it. That Russia provides support to Serbia in regards to Srebrenica and Kosovo has no impact on the Syria conflict, because these are two totally different subjects. Also, none of the sources provided state anything about Serbian weapons support to Syria. EkoGraf (talk) 01:17, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Baba Mica, have you paid attention to anything EkoGraf has explained to you? You've tried to reintroduce the same misleading content a couple of times since he left this message for you (here and here). Please stop trying to slow edit-war incorrect content back into the infobox. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:40, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for the compliment. I am instead of edited images Microsoft Picture Manager, but I do not like the picture because of too low resolution. Remove immediately. Do not wait a week. I hope I can arrange better resolution? --Baba Mica (talk) 03:16, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

If you need a license, I'll paint a Sony camera. I have a license for it.--Baba Mica (talk) 03:20, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks for the tip administrators, podrudići that postavimn permission. Three days and three nights make this article. My eyes fell out. I will certainly seek advice from other members and personal friends.--Baba Mica (talk) 22:53, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Mosul-Deir Ezzor-Palmyra offensive


The article Mosul-Deir Ezzor-Palmyra offensive has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern:
 * There is really no evidence that the two offensives are coordinated at all. The Eastern Homs offensive towards Deir ez-Zor and the Nineveh-Anbar offensive in Iraq are completely different operations. A lot of content in this article are unrelated information, for example the Shayrat strike and the northern Hama offensive.

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Be careful while editing please
You removed a lot of notable information in your edit on Battle of Mosul (2016–present). I doubt you did it on purpose, this kind of mistake has been done by me too before. But please be careful that you aren't accidentally removing any data. While editing, you can preview your edit on both desktop and mobile so you can see if you hadn't made any mistakes. Of course you can add or edit what you want but please take care that you aren't accidentally removing any data. Please be careful while you edit. Thank you. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 18:04, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

The information you removed concerns battle in Mosul as well, including your removing of events that happened inside Mosul. But the battle outside isn't different, it's under the same operation to cut off ISIL's escape and dismantle control in Nineveh. The battle extends to more than Mosul. Besides I suspect it will be over soon. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 07:22, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

I corrected your mistakes. And sorry but the battle in the west isn't separated. The offensive is for Nineveh as well to isolate and defeat ISIS in Mosul. You can see this on the article. And they're being carried out under the same operation. Sorry but your assertion isn't making much sense. We will establish a separate article for offensives in west of the country after this one ends as it won't be the same anymore. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 21:35, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

I cannot understand what you are talking about. But if you want to cut the article of Battle of Mosul then you'll have to get a consensus or even more appropriately an RfC as it's a big change and it's unwise to do it by yourself. We can create a seaparate Nineveh offensive later and if they go into Syria. But right now it's all for isloating ISIL Mosul completely and cutting off any escape attempts or attempts at any ISIL counter-attack to recapture Mosul. When it's finished as it likely might soon as a final assault is beginning, please start a new article if you have consensus of course. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 23:48, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Southern Syrian Desert offensive (May 2017–present)
You should focus on updating this article Southern Syrian Desert offensive (May 2017–present). EkoGraf (talk) 17:18, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

North Syrian desert offensive
It was discussed and the word southern from the Southern Syrian desert offensive was removed, because geographically, the southern part of the Syrian desert is actually in Saudi Arabia. If there is an offensive following the capture of Maskanah and the conclusion of the current Syrian desert offensive, we will see where it takes place and according to its location we will name it. If, for example, its an offensive launched toward Deir ez-Zor, with that city being the clear target, then yeah that would be an appropriate name. EkoGraf (talk) 15:20, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Nope, sources have stated the attack on the Arak gas fields was part of the currently ongoing offensive throughout the Syrian desert, not a part of a push towards Deir ez-Zor. Furthermore, sources have stated that the currently ongoing offensive throughout the Syrian desert has the goal to prepare conditions for an eventual offensive towards Deir ez-Zor in the future. The offensive towards Deir ez-Zor has not started yet. EkoGraf (talk) 17:12, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
 * De jure or de facto, until sources say it has started we can not presume anything. Per Wikipedia's policy we are prohibited from predicting or assuming future events and creating articles based on those kinds of assumptions, read WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL please. EkoGraf (talk) 19:02, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Deir ez-Zor offensive
When an offensive, with the ultimate goal being Deir ez-Zor, is announced, then we can open a new article. We cann't open an article based on speculation. The Iraqi PMF push that started west of Mosul on May 12th was announced to be the second phase of the offensive that started on April 25th which aims to seal the border with Syria. No mention of Deir ez-Zor in their goals. EkoGraf (talk) 22:34, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Do you think this offensive worthy of an article?
Hello, this was ongoing for few days already, offensive in Eastern Hama governorate, I am not sure about creating articles from scratch, made just 1 or 2 like that, I'm not sure if it deserves articles of its own, but ive seen much smaller operations having articles of their own. Here is example source of it: https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/pictures-saa-launches-massive-operation-isis-east-hama-countryside/, can find more if needed. Asking for your opinion because I see you have created many articles and probably got more experience than me in this department. GroundlessAir (talk) 17:38, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Daraa offensive
Read what I wrote per the sources both in the new article you created and in the previous offensive article. There are no sources regarding June 2nd, for June 3rd it was the rebels who attacked first and the Army retaliated the next day (June 4th) with shelling, which some speculated it could also be preparation for the new SAA offensive, but that it had not started yet. On June 7th, this source clearly says the offensive has started. EkoGraf (talk) 19:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * That there were fighting and casualties between June 2nd and 7th doesn't mean that there was an offensive. Anyway, I provided you with the source which clearly says the offensive was launched today. EkoGraf (talk) 19:45, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Mosul-Deir Ezzor-Palmyra offensive
First, so far, there are no sources confirming any kind of Iraqi military intervention in Syria or any kind of joint Palmira-Mosul offensive. Second, the current fighting at Arak has been sourced to be one of the six active fronts as part of the Syrian Desert offensive (May 2017–present) and it is already covered in that article. So there is no point in creating a separate article for Arak, since the offensive of which it is a part of already exists. If you want to update the clashes taking place at Arak, feel free to updated the already existing article. EkoGraf (talk) 23:05, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Maskanah Plains offensive and Raqqa campaign (2016-present)
Nope. The Raqqa campaign (2016-present) is about the SDF-led campaign. SAA operations west of Raqqah are separate. EkoGraf (talk) 02:17, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Article East Hama offensive (2017) should be moved
For consistency with other articles East Hama offensive (2017) should be moved to Eastern Hama offensive (2017). I don't know how exactly to move an article so asking you, since you created it, also recently updated the article with some SAA progress. As I mentioned before this move is needed for consistency, because for example Eastern Homs offensive (2017) refers to eastern part of Homs Governorate, while East Aleppo offensive (January–April 2017) refers to eastern part of Aleppo city, thus having offensive with word "East" can be misleading into making people think there was some fighting in Hama city. Hope you'll find some time for the moving of the article, thank you in advance. GroundlessAir (talk) 12:03, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Al-Sukhnah offensive
First, the article you created was a fork article, because the subject was already covered in the article Syrian Desert campaign (May 2017–present). Read WP:REDUNDANTFORK for more information in this regard. Such articles are merged. Second, all editors (except you) so far agreed that the current fighting that is still taking place near Arak, in an attempt to push towards Sukhnah, was part of the overall Syrian Desert campaign. Plus, sources have stated it as such. Third, in the infobox you created it was written Syrian Army enters Al-Sukhnah. Please seek consensus with other editors on the issue through talk at Syrian Desert campaign (May 2017–present) instead of unilaterally forking the article. So to summarize, the current fighting along the Arak-Suknah road already has an article (Syrian Desert campaign) and is covered in there. A separate article is redundant. Thanks! EkoGraf (talk) 17:56, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
 * PS I read your earlier message regarding Sukhnah. That you consider Al-Sukhnah special and that it does not belong to Syrian Desert offensive (May 2017-present) is your personal opinion, which you are entitled to, but we can not edit Wikipedia based on personal opinions per its policy. Sources have stated that fighting on this axis of advance is part of the desert campaign, and we edit per sources. Also, there is the matter of notability. The SAA's general campaign throughout the Syrian desert in this part of the country is notable, and thus per WP policy deserves its own article. A Sukhnah offensive or battle so far is not notable. IF it does become notable then yes a separate article can be made. Read WP:NOTABILITY in this regard. Finally, in the article you created, you cited that on 22 June the SAA reported an offensive towards Sukhnah had started. But the cited source said no such thing. In fact, it said the SAA continue to grab more territories, which means this is a continuation of a previous operation. And (again) the Arak-Sukhnah battlefront was previously cited by sources to be part of the desert campaign, regardless of our personal opinions. EkoGraf (talk) 18:09, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
 * One more thing, a large portion of the text you put was a copy-paste of the cited sources, which is a violation of WP:COPYPASTE, per which we are not allowed to do this. EkoGraf (talk) 18:25, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Most of the texts are mostly some copies from the media. What are you wondering about? That is the problem, again, read WP:COPYPASTE, we are not allowed to copy texts from the sources, its considered a copy-violation and is prohibited per WP policy. Regarding Maskanah, I originally named it as a Eastern Aleppo offensive, but another editor renamed it to Maskanah Plains Offensive. I did not object to the rename, because sources were generally referring to the offensive taking place in the Maskanah Plains. As for all the others names, we name them per the common name in the sources, read WP:COMMONNAME. At the moment, no sources actually confirm any kind of Al-Sukhnah offensive. We (personally) do not determine if Qaboun and Jobar are more important than Al-Sukhnah. Notability is established based on sources, again, read WP:NOTABILITY. The offensive in Qaboun was highly notable in the mainstream media, and that's why there's an article. As for Jobar, you created it, I personally wouldn't have because it hasn't been really notable in the mainstream media, but it has gotten a little attention so I didn't object to its creation. Also, please read WP:CIVIL and WP:GOODFAITH. Thank you. EkoGraf (talk) 23:31, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

As you created
Daraa offensive (June 2017), i have a question for you: is this article not the same subject as Daraa offensive (February–June 2017)? Just hard to see logic behind this branching-off.Axxxion 22:18, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, please read User talk:EkoGraf/Archive2018 1: this is for you as well: please note that it is not tongue-in-cheek, or suchlike: the articles in question are really perfectly unhelpful in the way the are written.Axxxion (talk) 22:22, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * ″Daraa offensive (June 2017) is a military operation launched by the Syrian Arab Army and allies against rebel positions in the SOUTHERN half of Daraa city.″ (my capitalisation); the infobox says: ″Syrian Army captures at least 50% of the Daraa Refugee Camp″. The website of UNRWA states that the ″Dera'a refugee camp is located north of Dera’a City″ ( https://www.unrwa.org/where-we-work/syria/deraa-camp ) It does not quite add up, does it? Perhaps more background info is called for, as i have pointed out; otherwise all this tactical minutiae is plain meaningless.Axxxion (talk) 22:36, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Daraa offensive (February–June 2017) was a rebel-initiated offensive, with the aim of capturing the Manshiyah District of Daraa city. It ended with the rebel capture of 95 percent of the district. Daraa offensive (June 2017) is a currently ongoing Syrian Army-initiated offensive, with the aim of capturing the Palestinian refugee camp. So these are two separate offensives for which we have two separate articles. The UNRWA sentence Dera'a refugee camp is located north of Dera’a City is factually incorrect. Since its establishment 65+ years ago, it has actually become a residential district of Daraa city itself and is located in the east-central part of the town as seen here on the map . The lead sentence of the Daraa offensive (June 2017) article says ...in the SOUTHERN half of Daraa city because Daraa city is currently bisected between a government-controlled north and rebel-controlled south, with the refugee camp district being just within the southern half portion of the city. Also, the Army attacked two other southern rebel-held districts of the city, and not just the Palestinian area. EkoGraf (talk) 00:35, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Central Syria campaign (July 2017–present)
Article made Central Syria campaign (July 2017–present). EkoGraf (talk) 13:23, 25 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Super. :)--Baba Mica (talk) 10:34, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Kosovo war
The discussion was moved to the article talk page. There other editors can join in. I always keep my talk page 'tidy' by deleting anything which I have dealt with. Pincrete (talk) 11:43, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

If content is disputed, we return to the old version until there is new agreement. Additionally you (twice, accidentally?) added 130,000 bytes of repetition to the article. Make your point on article talk. Pincrete (talk) 12:30, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

August 2017
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Proposed deletion of Syrian Desert campaign (August 2017)


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Syrian Desert Offensive
The one source there was stated the rebels announced an offensive, but no real offensive materialized after that. Instead, the SAA itself resumed its own military operations in the region (albeit on a small scale). Creating an article before a real offensive emerges is contrary to WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL. If and when a rebel (or any other) offensive is put into motion we will create an article. And even then, we will first consider whether the offensive is notable enough to warrant its own article, per WP:NOTABILITY. EkoGraf (talk) 00:31, 9 August 2017 (UTC)


 * First, syria liveuamap is not considered a reliable source because its largely based on twitter posts and twitter is forbidden as a source by Wikipedia's policy. Second, the few advances that were reported by syria liveumap, beside not being verifiable (required by WP policy) were non-notable (WP policy requires notability). Third, the Iraqi militia positions that were allegedly attacked by US artillery during an IS assault were subsequently found to be on the Iraqi side of the border, not the Syrian side, in the Akashat area of Iraq. If you wish to expand on the current happenings regarding the SAA-FSA front near the Iraqi border in the desert, feel free to expand this section Syrian Desert campaign (May–July 2017). EkoGraf (talk) 13:36, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Another Hama offensive article needed!
I looked up and saw that you were the one who created latest articles regarding various offensives etc. So I believe this one totally deserves article of its own due to it being widely reported with intense clashes and dozens of casualties on both sides. Example sources you could use:

Source 1 Source 2 Source 3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlindNight (talk • contribs) 17:40, 20 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I disagree about this. There is no indication yet that the offensive will last. There are reports that it has already been repelled. A summary of the offensive should be placed in the aftermath section of the 2017 Hama offensive. Editor abcdef (talk) 04:04, 21 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, the offensive in Hama was discarded. In my opinion, East Syria is a priority, but North Hame will consider if the fierce offensive Tahrir Al-sham continues today. If I open an article and the offensive stagnates, it will easily be removed.--Baba Mica (talk) 09:30, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Eastern Syria campaign (2017)
Through talk page discussions a consensus has been made the Central Syria campaign (2017) ended with the SAA recapture of al-Qaryatayn. Plans are currently being made between me and some other editors to create a Eastern Syria campaign (2017) article that would include Battle of Deir ez-Zor (September 2017–present), 2017 Euphrates Crossing offensive, Deir ez-Zor offensive (September 2017–present), 2017 Mayadin offensive. Regards! EkoGraf (talk) 11:36, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
 * At the time when you proposed it, the operations had still not evolved into a full campaign. Only now is it evident that its a campaign. The Euphrates Crossing offensive is regarded as a sub-article (sub-operation) of the current Battle of Deir ez-Zor city article. Currently, there is no fighting/operations against ISIS in the desert between Suknah and the Euphrates. There is fighting at the T2 station in the southeast of Syria with the aim of reaching the Bukamal border crossing (which is the goal of this Eastern Syria campaign). As for the pocket you are referring to, you are most likely talking about the alleged pocket shown on syria.liveumap.com. That pocket has already been confirmed as cleared 10 days ago and all of the other maps on Syria (except liveumap) are now showing that part of Syria as SAA-held. Per WP policy, multiple sources trump one source in verifiability. At the moment, consensus exists via talk page discussions that the Central Syria campaign ended with the recapture of al-Qaryatayn. You would need to seek a new consensus for changing the date. PS I'll let you know when the campaign article gets created. Cheers! EkoGraf (talk) 10:21, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Campaignbox Deir ez-Zor escalation period and ISIS collapse in the Syrian civil war
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 * Well, it was deleted long ago. Baba Mica (talk) 13:08, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Someone made a better and more relevant template.Baba Mica (talk) 13:13, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Campaignbox Post-Deir ez-Zor period in the Syrian Civil War
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 * I did not do this well. And it needs to be deleted. It was even before the 9th of October 2017.Baba Mica (talk) 13:11, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Campaignbox Unrest in SR Bosnia and Herzegovina
Template:Campaignbox Unrest in SR Bosnia and Herzegovina has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page.  Zack mann  (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:18, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I do not agree on this, and I want a wide discussion. This template should be completed and added to the Bosnian War and added as a pre-template. I know that the Muslim and Turkish lobby in the US justifies Aliа Izetbegovich, but the fact is that the Clinton administration is pointing out that April 6 is the first day of the war and that I can not do it. I insist on the discussion and that if the chief administrator does not allow me to put into the main template the true start of the war in Bosnia, which is March 1, then at least I insist that it be retained and added this template as a pre-form within the main template like before - patterns of the Syrian Civil War. I think that Wikipedia is rejecting my pre-form for political reasons or by refusing patrol administrations year after year who are in favor of the current political nomenclature in the United States related to the State Department, as well as the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, and want to cover up the period between March 1 and April 6 at all costs. I want a discussion and find some Modus Vivendi. With this pre-form, I wanted to be maximally NEUTRAL to everyone, but some admins do not give it and want to keep their distorted and frozen version of the beginning of this war PERMANENTLY PLASED. I am from the Balkans and while I'm alive I will not accept the BOSNIAN WAR template as it is today until some changes are corrected, and here I have presented them here.Baba Mica (talk) 13:57, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 * 'Not accepting' something on Wikipedia is hardly a reason to resort to becoming very agitated. It's only on online 'hobby' project - it's not formal history.  However, the Reliable Sources it incorporates/interprets must be - historians/scholars determine when wars end and begin, regardless of whether one's personal opinion agrees with them. You should relax more and not get your eyebrows knitted together.50.111.1.254 (talk) 19:49, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

edit warring on the date of the beginning of the Kosovo war
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December 2020
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 * Ok. Thank you. Baba Mica (talk) 00:00, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

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A quick and short friendly alert (Friendly warning)
Hello. Recently you edited the Protests against Joe Biden. During your edit, you removed a merge proposal and redirected an thing called the “Anti-trump movement” which isn’t even close to the article’s information.

To start off with, the removal of the merge proposal is actually not allowed on Wikipedia unless a consensus us reached. The discussion is here.

The part about the redirect I am taking it as a unintentional mistake, so I won’t warn on it, but I would have caution when doing redirects. Always communicate on the talk pages.

Hopefully this helps. (Your edits have been undone also). Elijahandskip (talk) 16:56, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I achieved my goal. This is to draw attention to the template for this article, which other editors have done better than me. Greeting. ;) — Baba Mica (talk) 20:34, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

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August 2021
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 * It is not vandalism. The media house "Sputnik - Serbia", for which he worked, announced that Miroslav Lazanski passed away on August 3 at 11 p.m. I set the link and link as a reference. Baba Mica (talk) 16:24, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Ok. But the source you have given is not a reliable source. If you can find another source about your claim please add it. Pachu Kannan (talk) 01:35, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

September 2021
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 * OK. Sorry. I accidentally forgot to post references and sources. The protests started on September 5 last year. Sorry one more time. Baba Mica (talk) 19:20, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the suggestion of colleagues. However, the protests started much earlier, and not in September 2020. :) Baba Mica (talk) 19:33, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

October 2021
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Hi Baba Mica! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia – it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. Lord Belbury (talk) 08:47, 6 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Ok. Baba Mica (talk) 13:32, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Battle of Sievierodonetsk
Baba Mica, I agree, they are not the same battle. However, there are currently no sources stating that there is an ongoing battle for Sievierodonetsk and all sources point to the city being fully under Ukrainian control. This has been confirmed by the Ukrainians, ISW and LPR themselves. Alternatively, an ongoing battle for Rubizhne is confirmed and virtually all of the information in the article is about the ongoing fight for Rubizhne, not Sievierodonetsk. If and when a battle erupts for control of Sievierodonetsk, we will create an article, that I agree. And I also support you in creating an article for the Battle of Popasna. EkoGraf (talk) 12:11, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Seems an assault on Sievierodonetsk itself, reported to be virtually surrounded, has only now been confirmed with the source you added . Thanks for that. However, the information about the kindergarten capture is currently unsourced, please add one, thank you! EkoGraf (talk) 12:18, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll look for sources now. Baba Mica (talk) 13:03, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Indeed, the real fights for the city only started yesterday, May 6, although it seemed to me that it started the day before yesterday, May 5. Here are Ukrainian sources:

https://interfax.com.ua/news/general/830135.html

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 * Ok — Baba Mica (talk) 01:27, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Yellow vests protests
Hi Baba Mica. I've undone your revert at the Yellow best protests article. You've revert errors back into the article, please don't do that. If there are changes you want to revert you'll need to unpick them piecemeal. - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 17:28, 20 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I will definitely annul them and I want them to be put to a vote and a discussion in the main square. I want to sue the user for VANDALISM because he has no arguments, and I have a handful of arguments. — Baba Mica (talk) 22:15, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Baba Mica, in the most cordial way, I don't care. I'm entirely uninvolved with whatever content issues you have with the article. If you having disagreements over an article the best place to start is the talk page, not blanket reverting all edits. If can't come to an agreement on the articles talk page, maybe try starting an RFC or looking into the other ways to settle arguents that Wikipedia offers. - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 22:20, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I will return the changes, but without undoing. I will put the sources and references in the template, and I started the discussion three weeks ago. However, user 2a02: c7e: 1b48: 2b00: 384e: 369e: 26ae: b555 does not cut even 5%, but he annulled my change from June 2 without explanation on June 8, so that there are no particularly important changes from June 8 to yesterday. How could you not remember when he vandalized the template several times, even though I started the discussion? I expect you to join the discussion and you can't just be interested as soon as you give me criticism. After the discussion, I ask for a reminder for user 2a02: c7e: 1b48: 2b00: 384e: 369e: 26ae: b555.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yellow_vests_protests#The_yellow_vest_protests_are_still_going_on

— Baba Mica (talk) 01:35, 22 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I have no idea what the IP has been up to, nor what the discussion is about. I've only been trying to fix errors that have been introduced into the page. I don't remember anything as I'm not interested in the article beyond correcting those technical errors. I will say be careful with the word vandalism, it has a very particular meaning on Wikipedia (see WP:VANDALISM, and WP:NOTVANDALISM). If the IP has been replacing text with the word "poop" that vandalism, if you vehemently disagree with what they say then that's not vandalism. I'm not saying their right, just it that might not meet the strict definition of vandalism that WP uses. - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 09:56, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Compare my change on June 2 and the change of the mentioned user on June 8. All other mini changes of other users were on the change of the mentioned user. He did not join the discussion at all, and he returned the previous insignificant changes. He did not present any arguments. This is pure VANDALISM. — Baba Mica (talk) 11:22, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I will not compare them and for the last time I'm not interested. I was just giving a friend warning that calling something vandalism that isn't covered by WP:VANDALISM can get you in trouble. If you have tried discussion on the talk page, but the IP will not join the discussion then look into the other ways that Wikipedia allows for resolving such disagreements. - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 11:34, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Ideas for articles
Hello, I've seen you've created several articles for battles of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. I appreciate your efforts as few people are still interested in creating content related to the war, so you're a valuable addition to the project right now. Maybe you could use some ideas for new articles. I was thinking of making pages for the battles at Dovhenke and Huliaipole (although this discussion would be relevant to read first ), maybe you could be interested in that. Engagements in Toshkivka (see ) could also get a page but I am not sure if there's enough info for that. Super  Ψ   Dro  20:36, 20 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I am extremely interested because you are absolutely right. Especially for the battle of Hulaipole and Dovhenka. The fighting over these small places became extremely long frontal battles. It seems to me that the battle for the small town of Ugledar, located north of Volnovakha, has been going on for a very long time.
 * — Baba Mica (talk) 22:31, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I haven't heard much about Vuhledar (I guess that's what you mean by Ugledar) but I do remember seeing many Russian salients in that area of the Donetsk Oblast, like four salients in a small area. After some quick Google searches I saw engagements there are quite similar to Huliaipole, mostly shelling and artillery strikes but also with some physical battles. I think battles in that Orikhiv-Huliaipole-Velyka Novosilka-Vuhledar line could get their own article which is being discussed right now in one of the links I attached above. So the best candidate for getting a page would be Dovhenke in my opinion. According to this (Spanish-language) article, the fighting there was so bloody because Dovhenke has a road leading to Sloviansk. Super   Ψ   Dro  09:02, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, I agree. I think it would be simpler because everything is in one front line. My idea is to put two proposals to the vote:
 * 1. Battle of Dovhenka - your suggestion
 * 2. Battle of Huliaipole - my suggestion Baba Mica (talk) 01:22, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I think there's no need for a vote as both are notable. Still per this discussion it would be quite problematic to make a page for the engagements at Huliaipole and name them a battle and some also argue they can be merged with engagements in nearby towns like Orikhiv. So the most uncontroversial option would be to participate in the discussion about Huliaipole and have a page for Dovhenke.  Super   Ψ   Dro  18:18, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Then let there be the Battle of Dovhenke. — Baba Mica (talk) 23:16, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Hey man, there are two redlinks on the campaignbox for the invasion of Ukraine, Shevchenkove and Kupiansk. Could you make an article for Kupiansk? I don't think Shevchenkove is notable enough for it's own article, as sourcing is hard and the details of the battle itself is unclear. Jebiguess (talk) 13:28, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course I want as much tonight or tomorrow. A new article is needed Second Battle of Lyman. — Baba Mica (talk) 14:38, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * One about the second battle of Lyman is needed for sure, but I think you should hold off on that one until there is a decisive result and much more sources come out. The situation is really foggy there. Jebiguess (talk) 15:00, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree, but I have to bring back the Battle of Orikhiv which is a classic multi-month positional battle and now enters a new active phase. The strategic place of Orihiv is a springboard for both Russian and Ukrainian forces that have been entrenched there since March. For the Russian forces, it is a springboard towards the city of Zaporozhye, and for the Ukrainian forces, it is a springboard for penetration to the south towards the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant and the city of Energodar by land to the west and towards Melitopol and Berdyansk to the south. Russian forces repelled the Ukrainian counter-offensive on Kherson because they were entrenched there and the position of Crimea, which is nearby, makes it easier for the Russians to transport a lot of weapons. But the Ukrainian Southern counter-offensive has its western side towards Kherson (with modest results) which has exhausted its forces due to the obvious Russian good defense in that part, and has its eastern side towards Energodar, Melitopol and Berdyansk (which since the day before yesterday, September 13, the Ukrainian side is trying to push harder, looking for a hole in the Russian defense). Extremely heavy fighting is taking place there, regardless of the terrible losses, the Ukrainian side does not give up the goal of first unblocking Orikhiv after more than six months, and then to break through to the mentioned occupied cities and the Black Sea. — Baba Mica (talk) 17:33, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thing is, while Orikhiv is a months-long battle, there is little to no reliable sources consistently reporting on it. On, Kharkiv, Sievierodonetsk, even Lyman there was news based entirely on the fight for the town itself. The only thing I could find for Orikhiv was a VICE doc from March, after that is just skirmishes. Not to mention, Wikipedia guidelines indicate there must be an active battle for the town. Orikhiv had a small one on March 8, where Ukrainians held out and since then fighting has mostly been in the southern countryside. Much of that information could be placed in the Southern Ukraine campaign or the Timeline pages for the war. Jebiguess (talk) 19:04, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Correction, Wikipedia guidelines state that there must be a battle IN the town for it to count; therefore Orikhiv wouldn't be a six-month-long battle. Jebiguess (talk) 19:05, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

By the way, there's still four redlinks in the campaignbox of the invasion (Makariv, Hlukhiv, Lviv and Romny). They have been there for months and it doesn't look like someone will be creating them soon, so if you want some more ideas you could create those. Super  Ψ   Dro  08:17, 21 July 2022 (UTC)


 * It was on my mind last night. By the way, has the battle for Soledar begun or is it not yet in full force? — Baba Mica (talk) 12:28, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * We should only consider that a battle has started when there's fighting on the actual location. Movements towards the city shouldn't count if that first condition hasn't been met yet. From what I see your article included no evidence that fighting had started on Soledar proper, only towards it. Shelling on the city doesn't count either if it's the only thing that's happened, since many many localities in Ukraine have been bombed. At times it's the only physical attack that a certain location has suffered so far because of the war, such as Ivano-Frankivsk. Lviv has also only been bombed but I think it deserves an article for having been bombed numerous times with casualties as a result and for being a relevant city for the war (many Western weapons have passed through here from Poland to the rest of Ukraine) and in general (it's a big, developed and one of the most populated cities of Ukraine).
 * In conclusion, I would advise against creating articles in anticipation of a battle for a city you might think is going to start soon. You made a page for a battle in Bakhmut on 27 May and it's 21 July and it hasn't started yet. If you wish, you can ask me about whether a location could get a battle article whenever you want to make a new page. Now that Dovhenke, Huliaipole and Bohorodychne have their own battle articles I can't really think of other potential pages, but I will let you know if I think of another if you're okay with that. Super   Ψ   Dro  20:03, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I had the idea in mind of articles for Snihurivka and Vysokopillya, but I think we should wait until new information comes out before we create the pages due to most sources regarding those areas being very vague. Jebiguess (talk) 20:31, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree. Especially when it comes to the Battle of Visokopilya. I don't think you should have deleted the battle of Vuhledar because the fighting has intensified since July 13. as for the battle of Visokopylya, it is seen that the Ukrainian forces are attacking the city from three sides (north, west and east) with an effort to surround the Russian forces and from the south side putting them in a pincer in a similar way as the Russian forces destroyed the Ukrainian forces at Sievierodonetsk and Lysychansk. The Ukrainians started an offensive south towards Kherson on the evening of July 11, targeting the place of Novaya Kahovka, killing about 60 people, probably to intimidate the Russians and the Russian-speaking population there, or because of better armaments from the west, which the Ukrainian army has a better chance of hitting Russian weapons depots (which are obviously larger in compared to Ukrainian warehouses) or the Russians and the population of the South of Ukraine relaxed too much and too soon, forgetting that more modern and longer-range weapons are arriving from the West via Poland and Romania. — Baba Mica (talk) 23:03, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * There shouldn't be a page for Snihurivka, as there's not an actual fighting in the town. I am not sure if Visokopilya is notable as it's a small village but maybe it could have its article. We should wait until it is over to have the maximum amount of available information possible. Super   Ψ   Dro  07:17, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Fully agree, the only reason I mentioned Vysokopillya is because there were reports that the town was surrounded, which is notable in the context of the war. However, the only super credible sources right now all stem from a tweet by Oleksiy Arestovych so I'd rather wait until more information is confirmed by both sides. Snihurivka has been a hotpot of action since early June, although no reliable sources have reported on it near enough to deserve it's own article. Best bet right now is to edit any major news into the summer offensive page or the Southern offensive page. Jebiguess (talk) 02:40, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * If I remember correctly someone drafted the pages for Makariv and Lviv due to WP:NOTNEWS and a lack of reliable sources regarding the battles there. We could always try again though. Jebiguess (talk) 20:32, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * As for Lviv and Makariv, it seems to me that these are articles about intense bombings like those in Odesa and Zhytomyr. — Baba Mica (talk) 23:44, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I kept Makariv as a draft because most sources didn't say what they were citing, so it needed to be rewritten. Lviv was drafted for copyright issues if I remember correctly. The draft shouldn't be used. Super   Ψ   Dro  07:17, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * If I don't have time today or tomorrow to do the article Bombardment of Lviv, then I will probably do it from the day after tomorrow. — Baba Mica (talk) 09:34, 24 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I've seen Pisky mentioned often lately. There might be enough sources for a new article. Someone already made one in the Spanish Wikipedia, which sucks and will be deleted most likely. Super   Ψ   Dro  22:41, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

June 2022
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 * Do you need to be so rude and arrogant to threaten me in the last sentence. Do what you want. I do not care. I will not deal with this article anymore because of your approach. Good by. — Baba Mica (talk) 23:22, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Telling you what the policy is for Wikipedia for copyright is not "threatening" you. You have a tendency to become offended easily and "storming out."  Please get a grip on your emotions.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.8.86 (talk) 22:26, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Battle of Vuhledar for deletion
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Your contributed article, Serbian protests (2020–2022)


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 * Thank you and I agree with you. Only I think that the article Serbian protests (2020–present) is outdated because there are no more protests against the government after the end of the Environmental protests that ended in February 2022. There are only differences between my point of view and yours, and I don't know how to redirect articles. I need someone to explain to me how to change the title of an article. If only admins or moderators can do it (I posted a template a few weeks ago suggesting to change the title of an article that no one paid attention to), I had no other choice. I apologize for breaking the rules. If there is some way to change the title, please explain to me how to change the title of an article that is outdated or its meaning has acquired a different dimension. — Baba Mica (talk) 15:03, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I guess that you probably wanted to move the page. Here is how you can move a page. Although what I'm trying to say is that post-July protests fall under the WP:NOTNEWS criteria since in comparison with other protests that were held, they were much smaller, they did not have an impact, and received small amount of media coverage. For example, July 2020 and 2021-2022 environmental protests are notable since large amount of people had took part in the protests, they received worldwide attention and had an impact on future events in Serbia. If you would want, you can expand the section in this page for COVID-19 protests. Freelancer and clerical protests would not meet notability criteria. Vacant0 (talk) 15:14, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree with you that the protests after July 18, 2020 were not noticed by the world public, but they were noticed in Serbia and were not very few. The topic was the same. The abolition of Anti-Lockdown measures, protests due to corruption, organized crime and bad economic situation similar to the protests in Bulgaria which had sometimes more and sometimes less world attention. Only there did the protests result in a fall, and here in a conditional victory of government policy. Pressure on Aleksandar Vučić continued from the liberal left and especially from the extreme right until the environmental protests, when the liberal left returned to the game, but even the extreme right was not on the sidelines when it came to environmental problems until February 15, 2022. Disbanded priests also play a big role in the extreme right, just as much as the SPC. Protests from the extreme right did bring some results in the extraordinary parliamentary elections in Serbia on April 3 when three right-wing parties entered the Serbian parliament to the astonishment of both the authorities and the liberal opposition. For these reasons, I believe that the protests of the extreme right also contributed to some result, just as much as the protests of the liberal left. I hope you are not angry with me because even though the Serbian Progressive Party rule has survived, after the 2022 general elections, the ruling party no longer has an absolute majority in the Serbian parliament after eight years. The results of all the protests (which I posted in the article) contributed to the fact that the regime of Aleksandar Vučić was seriously shaken and forced to calculate with other parties in order to remain in power despite a convincing victory in the presidential elections, because those protests reduced the voting body of the ruling Serbian Progressive Party which belongs to the center-right party and is part of the European People's Party. — Baba Mica (talk) 16:28, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

July 2022
Please refrain from making test edits in Wikipedia pages, such as those you made to Serbian protests (2020–2022), even if you intend to fix them later. Your edits have been reverted. If you would like to experiment again, please use your sandbox. ''To move Serbian protests (2020–present) to a different title, use WP:RM. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 21:11, 11 July 2022 (UTC)'' Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 21:11, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok — Baba Mica (talk) 21:27, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Please refrain from making test edits in Wikipedia pages, such as those you made to Battle of Hlukiv, even if you intend to fix them later. Your edits have been reverted. If you would like to experiment again, please use your sandbox. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 00:57, 24 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Maybe I made some grammatical mistake because an extreme antagonism has developed between Russians and Ukrainians in the names of certain places (cities and villages), so it causes me a big problem with Russian and Ukrainian Wikipedians who send me criticism. Can you help me with those grammatical difficulties by making corrections and additional corrections in the articles I'm making? I would be very grateful. The battles around these cities are important for the future world order, but also for MILITARY HISTORY in general. — Baba Mica (talk) 01:05, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * They are only important if secondary sources say they are--what's in the daily news roundup is less important. But I warned you because you reinserted a set of images that add nothing to the article, so please do not restore them. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 01:10, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I won't be returning them for sure. I inserted them from the Ukrainian Wikipedia, although they don't have any description there either. I don't know what the criteria are there. It seems to me that the Ukrainian Wikipedia operates according to some wild rules. — Baba Mica (talk) 01:50, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

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Do not make copy-paste moves
RE: Battle of Bakhmut (2022). Stop doing this, it is turning into a bad habit. Curbon7 (talk) 14:06, 3 August 2022 (UTC)


 * The template for the warning is Uw-c&pmove. I didn't want to give you a templated warning, as you are experienced enough, but please read it. Curbon7 (talk) 14:08, 3 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Didn't the final battle for the city begin on Monday August 1st? All the media are trumpeting the Battle of Bahmut. —


 * At least read the edits and sources I compiled and added today, August 3rd. I don't see what the problem is now when there are real battles for the city of Bakhmut, and the Russian Army and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced an attack on the cAt least read the edits and sources I compiled and added today, August 3rd. I don't see what the problem is now when there are real battles for the city of Bakhmut, and the Russian Army and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced an attack on the city on August 1. No one is going to help me, and you are just salting my mind. There have been no Ukrainians or Russians for the past seven days, while the media is scratching its head about the Battle of Bakhmut.ity on August 1. No one is going to help me, and you are just salting my mind. There have been no Ukrainians or Russians for the past seven days, while the media is scratching its head about the Battle of Bakhmut. — Baba Mica (talk) 14:36, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Not sure if you understood the warning. What Curbon7 said is that you should've moved the article on the Battle of Bakhmut from draftspace to mainspace. That is, click the Move button and retitle Draft:Battle of Bakhmut (2022) into Battle of Bakhmut (2022). This way the edit history of the draft is kept on the new published article, which is helpful. Super   Ψ   Dro  22:44, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

August 2022
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 * Ok. :) — Baba Mica (talk) 10:57, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Minor edits
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Second Battle of Izium (Lyman)?
Baba Mica, like I stated in my edit summaries, you made the split while the discussion on the issue (leaning towards oppose) was still ongoing at the talk page, contrary to WP policy. Also, none of the cited sources confirm any battle for the town took place. On the contrary, they confirmed a Russian withdrawal ahead of Ukrainian forces which took control of the town without any resistance reported. As for Lyman, no battle for the town has started yet. All current fighting still taking place in the villages/forests south of the city. If a battle for the city starts we will create an article. EkoGraf (talk) 14:53, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The subject of the article Battle of Davydiv Brid is about the Ukrainian attempt to cross the river from May-June, which ended three months ago (in a Ukrainian failure). So the current events are separate from those and not a new phase. However, there is also no need for a new article since the current Ukrainian attempt to cross the Inhulets at Davydiv Brid is already covered in the article 2022 Ukrainian southern counteroffensive. I would only suggest to add a summary of the recent events as part of the Kherson counteroffensive to an "aftermath" section of the article covering the May-June battle. EkoGraf (talk) 16:46, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Battle of Vuhledar


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 * I do not care. Do what you want. The battle has been going on since August 14, and major fighting escalated on the morning of October 29. You have a blueprint. I left everything there just in case and you can do as you like. You didn't even give me 24 hours to respond. So what should we talk about? I am no longer interested in the battle for Vuhledar. — Baba Mica (talk) 16:09, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Battle of Marinka (2022)


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 * I don't need that picture even though I am the author of it. A new and better image has been posted, so feel free to delete it. She did her part. Thanks. — Baba Mica (talk) 21:48, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

January 2023
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for Continued marking all edits as minor. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Doug Weller talk 21:45, 5 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Come on, explain to me what kind of mortal sin and iniquity have I committed that you are blocking me? Who are you anyway? — Baba Mica (talk) 23:12, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello Baba Mica. It appears you have been blocked by a Wikipedia administrator, Doug Weller, for marking all of your edits as "minor". In the case you didn't know, this should only be done (though it isn't even necessary at all) when your edits typographical corrections, corrections of minor formatting errors, and reversion of obvious vandalism (see Help:Minor edit). In other words, these are edits that the user says are not necessary for revision by other users, and thus they do not appear at Special:RecentChanges. Most of your edits including the creation of pages of thousands of bytes do not constitute minor edits, they are entire pages and it is 100% obligatory they appear at Special:RecentChanges so that users can take a look at it. You might not know this, but many vandals will for example delete random parts of articles and mark their edits as "minor" so that they do not appear at the recent changes page believing this way they will not be caught. This is why marking edits that are not minor as such is considered disruptive editing, and it is why you were blocked. The admin has stated that if you agree to stop, so you only have to do this. You might want to take the time to learn when is an edit minor or not, but I have been editing for years and personally I've never bothered. It is not necessary. All you'd need to do is to stop clicking the minor edit button before publishing your changes. Super   Ψ   Dro  23:54, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't know which button is so damaging to the politics of the entire Wikipedia, and among other things, I've had an operation and am recovering from a serious illness, I'm going to dress the wound. So I really don't have the time or energy to argue with the admin about nonsense. When some new battles and offensives start in Ukraine after the Orthodox Christmas, make new articles. I've had enough. At the same time, he blocked me indefinitely for an extremely stupid reason without any warning. Poor and miserable. — Baba Mica (talk) 00:32, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry about your operation and illness. As someone who has had two serious cancer operations and chemotherapy in the last year and edited through them I have some experience of something at least close to your sitation
 * I presume you meant policies and not  politics. You seem to have completely ignored the excellent explanation by User:Super Dromaeosaurus. And you're claiming you had no warning but one of the reasons for the block was that you did have warnings before which you chose to ignore. And I see numerous warnings and complaints above about other issues. I'm not going to waste time looking at all of them, but your response to the "Do not make copy paste moves" was basically there are more important things than paying attention to guidelines, much like your response here. So I think many Admins might expect you to do more than just agree not to mark edits as minor. You need to show that you understand that you were not blocked for "an extremely stupid reason" and show that you can edit in line with our policies and guidelines, even if you personally find them a nuisance.  Doug Weller  talk 09:13, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't understand what is expected of me? What should I click to avoid breaking the rules? What should I mark? Can someone give me a screenshot? Obviously I'm not smart enough to figure out what it's about or it's too complicated. Oh, the English (Anglo-Saxons) grandmasters to make life difficult with a bunch of their rules and procedures with some legal snags that are easy to trip over, but hard to understand the point. — Baba Mica (talk) 15:30, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * You should not tick the "This is a minor edit" box when publishing edits (unless it's genuinely a minor edit). Cordless Larry (talk) 16:59, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't even know what I tagged it to get banned for life. — Baba Mica (talk) 22:32, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Work permit
I insist that you remove the block from January 5 so that I can continue to work, if you have a little conscience and soul. Stop this behavior of yours that you are carrying out towards me. You are not fair as a man. What do I have to do for you to let me work? If I can't work I want my account terminated because you are acting arbitrarily. — Baba Mica (talk) 21:37, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Leaving Wikipedia
If by January 19, 2023 at 21:45 I am not permanently blocked by user Doug Weller, I will never again enter the English Wikipedia to even look at, let alone read, an article. If there was any violation of the rules, I certainly did not do it on purpose. However, user Doug Weller is taking out his frustrations about his illness on me, who isn't much better off with his health than he is. I'm not asking for pity, I'm asking for my permanent ban filter to be removed in eight days at the most. I see this as an experience by this user that if he can't work, then no one will. The user is abusing his position as an administrator. This has NEVER happened to me in my 14 years spent on Wikipedia. There were bigger and much sharper conflicts with various users and admins with different characteristics. However, for someone to put a total block on me for the rest of my life, I could not imagine it either in science fiction or in the most terrifying horror movie. I am outraged at Wikipedia and especially at the mentioned administrator who blocks users for small changes in the dates of certain armed conflicts or current and former civil protests. If I did something wrong, everything could be corrected with a certain explanation or warning. User Doug Weller apparently thinks I'm an idiot and has denied me the right to complain. If there is another administrator, please remove my ban. I will not appear for a year as long as user Doug Weller has the position he has now. Otherwise, if I am banned forever from January 19, 2023, Wikipedia is a FAILED and DEAD PROJECT for me. Baba Mica (talk) 22:08, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * In your comments above, you repeatedly showed that you hadn't read the multiple explanations of your block. Now, you're showing that you haven't read the instructions (also above) on how to appeal your block. Unless you can follow the instructions to appeal properly, and in doing so demonstrate that you understand why you were blocked and explain how you would avoid repeating the same problematic behaviour in future, then you're not going to be unblocked. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:16, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * And that square is the problem where I marked a minor change before saving the page? Is that sanctioned? — Baba Mica (talk) 23:25, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * So you are using my cancer as a reason for the block? Amazing. It doesn't affect what I do on Wikipedia. Hell, my strained calf muscles are my main concern right now. But it is so easy for you to get unblocked as has been pointed out by Cordless Larry. Doug Weller  talk 08:40, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I had colon surgery in 2014 because my Crohn's disease complicated into a tumor that spread to my abdominal tissue, so I understand you much better than other users. As for minor changes, I only realized last night what the problem was. I don't need to click and mark the left square. I didn't get it. I will never click the left square again if it will be considered a reason for sanctioning me. I give my word of honor. I considered the change of date to be a minor change because the Covid measures in Britain were lifted on March 18th last year so there are no more protests on that occasion. There are many more protests in Britain now, but for a completely different (economic) reason, for which a separate article "Protests against inflation in Europe" has been opened. Those protests began on September 3, which is even six months after the lifting of the COVID measures by Boris Johnson's government. Moreover, they did not start immediately in Britain, but in the Czech Republic and France. — Baba Mica (talk) 13:01, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for understanding this. I've unblocked you. Sorry I didn't notice this yesterday. It doesn't hurt to never check the minor edit box, I never do. Doug Weller  talk 08:49, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I will never do it again if it's something that breaks the rules. Thanks for unblocking me since January 5th. Can I at least monitor the page I'm editing or editing? Or should I also avoid the square on the right? — Baba Mica (talk) 09:46, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Of course you can watch pages that you're interested in. Your block was for ignoring warnings about marking non-minor edits as minor; nothing to do with watching pages. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:01, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I recommend you don't click this tick in any other page because, as I explained above, it's not actually necessary, and there could be another misunderstanding. But yes of course that watching pages is allowed. Super   Ψ   Dro  23:08, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

I was very happy that they unbanned, I was inspired by you :)
Hi baba mica, I'm glad they unbanned you. You know, I started this thread to say that I was inspired by you, you created the article on the Battle of Soledar. I'm just a simple Brazilian editor on Wikipedia. I created the Battle of Soledar for Wikipedia editors in Brazil, well I still need to improve the quality of my article. I just wanted to tell you that my inspiration was you, thank you! ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ (talk) 12:56, 15 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks buddy. I'm pleased to. ;) More articles are needed as a whole host of new battles opened up during December and January. — Baba Mica (talk) 20:30, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

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Nomination of Battle of Vuhledar for deletion
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February 2023
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 * I only used the sources with minor changes, and I wrote most of them in my own hand, and I will definitely return the changes with certain corrections, because it is obvious that Russia has been on a total offensive since January 27, which is visible to the naked eye. — Baba Mica (talk) 18:30, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
 * And as far as I can see, you have already corrected it. I didn't understand right away. I thank madam. If you notice any redundancies in my articles, feel free to chime in with specific corrections. I see that the essence has not been removed. There is probably a lot of quantity and less quality. You have worked on quality and for that reason I am grateful to you madam. :) — Baba Mica (talk) 18:38, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

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Nomination of Protests against the green agenda for deletion
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July 2023
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on War in Donbas (2014–2022)‎. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Nomination of Battle of Dvorichna for deletion
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New articles
Not every village that sees fighting should get an article. It must really be intense fighting for it to be warranted. I think the name of a place coming a lot in the news might be a good indicative that it might be warranted.

I think that we already have most battle articles we should have articles about. In fact we might have to delete some. However, if I had to say one place that should get its own article, that'd be Orikhiv. You might want to consider it. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 08:29, 19 July 2023 (UTC)


 * The Battle of Orihiv was deleted last year because your colleagues had the same attitude as you have related to this article. They even deleted the draft was deleted last year because your colleagues had the same attitude as you have related to this article. They even deleted the draft (Draft:Battle of Orikhiv). It does not occur to me to spend my time on Orihiv again until the Russian forces go on a counter-offensive, and only if the Ukrainian counter-offensive launched on June 4th fails miserably. If there was a theoretical battle for the city itself (as emphasized by some colleagues), then it could be considered that the Russians never approached the city and therefore the battle for that city never existed. But, since there was a strong front that was consolidated on March 8 of last year and if my article at that time was corrected to the Battle of the Orihiv Front, then on June 11 of this year it would be considered that Ukraine won that battle, which is one of the minor success for the entire war, but for part of this current Ukrainian counter-offensive, it is certainly a victory that pushed the Russian forces ten kilometers to the south and thus the front was moved to the first Russian defense line near the town of Rabotino, which the Ukrainian forces have not yet reached. Orihiv is certainly not a topic anymore, but we should focus on the cities and places where a strong front was formed on both sides, and that is certainly Dvorichna (on the Kupiansk direction). What is much more important about this small place is that it is the first landing of the Russian army across the Oskil River, from where they were totally pushed back by the Ukrainian Kharkiv counter-offensive in September of last year to the left bank, where a strong Russian line of defense of Svatove-Kreminna was formed fifteen kilometers to the east. What happened on June 1 this year is that the second line of Ukrainian defense on the Svatove-Kreminna line was breached, and for the first time since last September, fighting is again taking place on the right side of the Oskil River with the aim of cutting off the supply line between Kharkov and Kupiansk, as well as to surround the Ukrainian forces on the left bank of the Oskil River and completely destroy them on the Svatove-Kreminna line, and of course to create the conditions for an attack on the strategically important city of Kupiansk from that direction, because if that city falls, all Ukrainian successes in Kharkiv will be canceled counteroffensives. Another reason why I attach importance to the fighting for this small place of Dvorichna is that the Ukrainians are fiercely defending that city and have an extremely strong line of defense, the collapse of which would give the Russians an opportunity for a wider penetration to the west towards Kharkov and to the south towards Izyum, which were last autumn lost without much fighting and running away fatically. I hope you understood me from the questioner's article. I will spam most of it and transfer it to the talk page where I will propose to open some new articles for new battles for very important and strategic places such as;


 * Battle of Torske
 * Battle of Krasnogorovka
 * Battle of Pyatihatki

The place Torske is not a small town at all, and especially not a village. On July 11, Russian forces broke through the Ukrainian defense line and occupied some eastern parts of that city. Any place where there is a contact line and where tens of thousands of soldiers on both sides fell is worthy of a separate article unless there is a battle for a major city near it, such as Klescheyevka and Kurdiumovka, which are part of the Battle of Bakhmut, and those two small places have no place for a separate article. Belohorivka is a very important place that divides Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts, it is located between the two strategically important cities of Siversk (controlled by Ukrainian forces) and Lysychinsk (controlled by Russian forces) and of course it is located at the place where, across the Donetsk River, where the big the battle near the Svatovo-Kreminna line.]]. It does not occur to me to spend my time on Orihiv again until the Russian forces go on a counter-offensive, and only if the Ukrainian counter-offensive launched on June 4th fails miserably. If there was a theoretical battle for the city itself (as emphasized by some colleagues), then it could be considered that the Russians never approached the city and therefore the battle for that city never existed. But, since there was a strong front that was consolidated on March 8 of last year and if my article at that time was corrected to the Battle of the Orihiv Front, then on June 11 of this year it would be considered that Ukraine won that battle, which is one of the minor success for the entire war, but for part of this current Ukrainian counter-offensive, it is certainly a victory that pushed the Russian forces ten kilometers to the south and thus the front was moved to the first Russian defense line near the town of Rabotino, which the Ukrainian forces have not yet reached. Orihiv is certainly not a topic anymore, but we should focus on the cities and places where a strong front was formed on both sides, and that is certainly Dvorichna (on the Kupiansk direction). What is much more important about this small place is that it is the first landing of the Russian army across the Oskil River, from where they were totally pushed back by the Ukrainian Kharkiv counter-offensive in September of last year to the left bank, where a strong Russian line of defense of Svatove-Kreminna was formed fifteen kilometers to the east. What happened on June 1 this year is that the second line of Ukrainian defense on the Svatove-Kreminna line was breached, and for the first time since last September, fighting is again taking place on the right side of the Oskil River with the aim of cutting off the supply line between Kharkov and Kupiansk, as well as to surround the Ukrainian forces on the left bank of the Oskil River and completely destroy them on the Svatove-Kreminna line, and of course to create the conditions for an attack on the strategically important city of Kupiansk from that direction, because if that city falls, all Ukrainian successes in Kharkiv will be canceled counteroffensives. Another reason why I attach importance to the fighting for this small place of Dvorichna is that the Ukrainians are fiercely defending that city and have an extremely strong line of defense, the collapse of which would give the Russians an opportunity for a wider penetration to the west towards Kharkov and to the south towards Izyum, which were last autumn lost without much fighting and running away fatically. I hope you understood me from the questioner's article. I will spam most of it and transfer it to the talk page where I will propose to open some new articles for new battles for very important and strategic places such as;
 * Battle of Torske
 * Battle of Krasnogorovka
 * Battle of Pyatihatki
 * The place Torske is not a small town at all, and especially not a village. On July 11, Russian forces broke through the Ukrainian defense line and occupied some eastern parts of that city. Any place where there is a contact line and where tens of thousands of soldiers on both sides fell is worthy of a separate article unless there is a battle for a major city near it, such as Klescheyevka and Kurdiumovka, which are part of the Battle of Bakhmut, and those two small places have no place for a separate article. Belohorivka is a very important place that divides Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts, it is located between the two strategically important cities of Siversk (controlled by Ukrainian forces) and Lysychinsk (controlled by Russian forces) and of course it is located at the place where, across the Donetsk River, where the big the battle near the Svatovo-Kreminna line. — Baba Mica (talk) 22:18, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Battle of Dvorichna


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August 2023
Your addition to Dnieper campaign (2022–present) has been removed or altered, as it appears to closely paraphrase a copyrighted source. Limited close paraphrasing or quotation is appropriate within reason, so long as the material is clearly attributed in the text. However, longer paraphrases which are not attributed to their source may constitute copyright violation or plagiarism, and are not acceptable on Wikipedia. Such content cannot be hosted here for legal reasons; please do not post it on any page, even if you plan to fix it later. You may use external websites or printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

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 * I only used Critical Threats' Ukrainian landing pages and nothing else, and wrote most of the text in my own words. I have to cite at least some sources. You could have corrected it, if you already think they have some shortcomings, and not send me threatening messages. I have done enough. — Baba Mica (talk) 16:04, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It's not enough to write most of the text in your own words, you have to write all of the text in your own words. You also maintained the same sequence of statements in the article as in the source, which places your edit firmly within close paraphrasing territory. I encourage you to read Close paraphrasing, as it does a good job of explaining what is and isn't close paraphrasing, and how to avoid common pitfalls. — SamX &#91;talk · contribs&#93; 16:16, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * OK. But, Ukrainian troops really successfully landed on August 8 on the left bank of the Dnieper and have not yet been driven away, just like the Russian troops near Dvorichna in the Kupiansk sector, where they have been well entrenched on the right bank of the Oskil River since June 1. — Baba Mica (talk) 16:20, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not arguing that they didn't. I'll have no objection if you add that information to the article in a manner that doesn't contravene Wikipedia's copyright policy. — SamX &#91;talk · contribs&#93; 16:22, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

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Unsubstantiated claims in the Ukraine war
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Nomination of Battle of Romny for deletion
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 * I do not care. Delete everything. I am no longer interested in the war in Ukraine. The Battle of Balaklei should also be deleted. — Baba Mica (talk) 23:42, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Adding durations to infoboxes
I've just reverted several of your edits where you added the duration of various events to infoboxes. I don't see what value this added given the dates were already in the infobox - it seems to be trivia. Nick-D (talk) 10:18, 19 September 2023 (UTC)


 * These are not trivia, but I posted reliable references that you could see with dates that I added with years. That, if you are blind or illiterate, it is not my fault. Feel free to engage in "trivialities", I cannot prevent you from doing so. I tried to fill in the inbox with precise dates, but if you think that's trivia, then OK. Very nice. I will NEVER again. I am done with this war as well as with Ukraine. — Baba Mica (talk) 10:33, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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December 2023
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Battle of Bilohorivka, you may be blocked from editing. ''There was a clear consensus to merge the article, at Talk:Luhansk_Oblast_campaign. You did not participate it--that's fine, but there was a consensus and you need to stick to it. If you wish to changed editors' minds, you can start a discussion. What you may NOT do is simply undo that, without even an explanation, and then do it again after User:HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith undid your edit; and they said, very clearly, "there was consensus". I'm a bit surprised that after almost a decade on Wikipedia you do not seem to appreciate the collaborative nature of this project.'' Drmies (talk) 21:37, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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 * Even though it is located in the Luhansk Oblast, that place is of strategic military importance for which huge casualties were incurred and the battle began before the official start of the Luhansk campaign on October 2 last year. You persistently desecrate all my articles with the intention of displeasing my editing and that you have a personal monopoly on editing this conflict by making Frankenstein articles like the Sloviansk offensive that never existed in reality, and you stuff and combine articles that have nothing to do with each other, degrading other people's work and effort causing an editorial war. Why are there articles on the Battle of Enerhodar, the Battle of Mariupol, the Battle of Volnovakha, the Battle of Soledar, the Battle of Kupiansk, and other cities, when it is easiest to put everything in one bag, the Southern Ukraine campaign or the Eastern Ukraine campaign? Today, Bilohorivka is certainly more important than the towns of Energodar, Popasnaya, Sieverodonieck and Lisichinsk, at least in terms of the duration of the battles. I swallowed everything, but here you crossed the red line and broke a number of Wikipedia rules by desecrating articles that are redundant, but also articles for which there is a real reason for their existence. We will also return to the topic of the start date of the War in Donbass, where you also violated a number of rules and ignored my arguments and information that I persistently sent you during the spring-summer discussion, taking advantage of my absence and obligations during the summer and autumn. I am not a person who easily deviates from my principles and arguments, and I will submit all your controversial actions to arbitration and if necessary until the day of judgment, I will fight so that the article Battle of Bilohorivka is not abandoned and that your unnecessary shortening of the article Battle is called into question near the Donbass despite fierce fighting in the region of Bakhmut and Soledar and Bilohorivka, which is located on the right side of the Donets River. I will return again and again and again, so who gets bored sooner. I would prefer that you be more flexible in this field and that we cooperate together on supplementing, and not on erasing, such an important and bloody battle. I will not make a question about your shortening of the series of articles and stuffing it into the Sloviansk offensive. If you consider Bilohorivka to be part of the Luhansk campaign, then it did not begin with the fall of Lyman on October 2, but with the fall of Bilohorivka on September 19, after which the Russian counterattack began the next day, which has been going on for 18 months. This means that I will change the date of the beginning of the Luhansk campaign and instead of the city of Lyman, I will emphasize the place of Bilohorivka, for which the fighting has not stopped for over a year, while Lyman has long been in Ukrainian hands, and since then there has been no fighting for that city, while the front line is dozens kilometers to the north and east of that city, and from the southern side, just 12 km from the other side of the Donets river, real slaughter is taking place on both sides. If you change the date of the start of the Luhansk campaign, then I will return the article Battle for Bilohorivka indefinitely and start a discussion in the square. — Baba Mica (talk) 22:16, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't know who you are talking to. I have nothing to do with Sloviansk Offensive, nor have I "stuff[ed] and combine[d]" any articles you are involved with: all I did was revert your unwarranted restoration of Battle of Bilohorivka. I will tell you one more time why I did that: there was a consensus to merge, and you violated that consensus, twice. In addition, you did not even explain what you were doing--in fact, I don't see an edit summary for the last 250 edits you made, and so you don't seem to care at all about the collaborative nature of our beautiful project. And here you are arguing about some content, but that's really not at stake here: that's for the talk page, and for that merge discussion. Accusing me (or whoever you thought you were talking to) of crossing some red line, well.You can fight all the way to arbitration, if you like; I don't see in your talk page history that there is a warning about editing topics in Eastern Europe, which are subject to special considerations: I will place an alert below. But it doesn't have to go that far: you can also be blocked for personal attacks or for continued edit warring--or for a lack of consideration for other editors. I urge you to acquaint yourself with the guidelines and procedures of editing in a collaborative environment. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 22:42, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * If we both agree that the Luhansk campaign started on September 19, and not on October 2 last year, then I apologize for the harsh words. I'm sorry I was rude. Everything I do, I do with a lot of passion. Especially what I love and care about. And I really care about the events (battles and military campaigns) in this great war, because something like this doesn't always happen, especially the slaughter of such a large scale that we are both witnessing today. I hope you understand me. — Baba Mica (talk) 22:44, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * When some campaign started is none of my concern, nor do I really care if you are rude to me: you shouldn't be rude to the editors you work with. Show me one single edit where I have changed some content in one of these articles you are talking about, and it will be clear to you that you are talking to the wrong person. The slaughter is terrible, and the passions are great, which is why we have special measures to deal with those who are so passionate that they forget their manners. Drmies (talk) 01:24, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I didn't even mean you, but the previous user who trolls all the articles I worked on, and you support him. I thought I was arguing with him because the two of us have been in an editorial conflict for a long time. It started around the date of the start of the war in Donbass and that conflict is not over yet, but I am unable to follow everything due to other commitments. The user in question is: HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith. He has been desecrating articles for a long time and making a bunch of pamphlets out of them, and he is making a circus out of Wikipedia by stuffing all the articles he can get his hands into one big sack by redirecting them to the big articles. Creating new articles and any participation in the work here has long since become pointless and a waste of time and nerves and getting into arguments with people I will never see or need in my life because of topics that only damage my personal dignity and health. The new articles Russian counter-offensive 2023 and Battle of Chasov Yar are completely meaningless because everything can be packed and diverted into big hackles Russian invasion of Ukraine, South Ukraine campaign or East Ukraine campaign. I'm not going to waste my time and nerves on nonsense when I can be doing more creative things in my personal life. What will your fake digital life do to me? To collect unnecessary information that will annoy me? Here you two. I've had enough of everything. — Baba Mica (talk) 01:48, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello. I have noticed that you edit without using an edit summary. Please do your best to always fill in the summary field. This helps your fellow editors use their time more productively, rather than spending it unnecessarily scrutinizing and verifying your work. Even a short summary is better than no summary, and summaries are particularly important for large, complex, or potentially controversial edits. To help yourself remember, you may wish to check the "prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" box in your preferences. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 22:43, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Contentious topics: Eastern Europe
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 * I certainly want to deal with controversial topics, and I have many, especially in Eastern Europe. — Baba Mica (talk) 23:12, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Battle of Krasnohorivka
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Concern regarding Draft:Battle of Dvorichna
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Feb 2024
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. ManyAreasExpert (talk) 23:05, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

February 2024
 You have been blocked from editing for one week for contravening Wikipedia's policy against personal attacks and harassment. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. Cullen328 (talk) 01:56, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Battle of Krasnohorivka


Hello, Baba Mica. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Battle of Krasnohorivka".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 02:15, 18 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Soon you will need that article more than I will. You have not been able to make a single new article for a year, even though the heavy battles at Novomihailovka, Grigorievka and from today a strong Russian counter-offensive on Zaporozhye (at least the second battle at Orihiv) are underway. What more do I have to argue with you? Erase EVERYTHING that concerns me. — Baba Mica (talk) 04:51, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Avdiivka
Could you please briefly explain why you have added the date of 21 February 2022 as the start date of the Battle of Avdiivka? Thank you SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) 23:58, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I didn't add that date, I put it back because the fights started on that date in 2022. And now let me ask you something collectively on the English Wikipedia. WHY DID YOU DELETE THE DRAFT: THE BATTLE OF KRASNOHORIVKA ON THE DAY OF THE FALL OF AVDEEVKA AND WHY DID YOU DELETE THE NOTE ABOUT THE "ALLEY OF ANGELS" TO CHILDREN WHO DIED IN DONETSK? . The villains around you will recognize themselves, ban me again temporarily or this time permanently because of insults, play tricks on some IT policemen, desecrate already existing articles, write nonsense, etc. I don't really care about Krasnohorivka, Chasov Yar, Zaporozhye. But for "Angel Alley" I will never forgive you in my life, whether it's banned or not, even though I'm not the author of that article at all. . — Baba Mica (talk) 00:33, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I used to consider this site a bastion of free speech for highly educated and intelligent people until this war started and I saw what you were up to. Avdeevka is completely irrelevant to me, as well as the starting date of combat operations. . — Baba Mica (talk) 00:38, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

AN/I
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.HappyWith (talk) 10:55, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

February 2024
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for making personal attacks towards other editors. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 11:00, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

AN/I again
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February 2024
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for Personal attacks or harassment. In addition, your ability to edit your talk page has also been revoked. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then submit a request to the Unblock Ticket Request System. Floquenbeam (talk) 21:33, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

"Battles of Bohorodychne and Krasnopillia" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battles_of_Bohorodychne_and_Krasnopillia&redirect=no Battles of Bohorodychne and Krasnopillia] has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached. SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) 21:55, 21 May 2024 (UTC)