User talk:Babub/Archive1

do not unilaterally move articles, especially not after objections are voiced on talk. dab (&#5839;) 10:18, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I stand by my points as stated, but I recognize I could have been friendlier: I apologize for my impatience. dab (&#5839;) 09:01, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Edit on hindu apostacy
Hi,Can you explain why you removed referenes to popular apostates of hinduism. They are a part of the article

Advaita Vedanta
Remember to mark your edits as minor only when they genuinely are (see Minor edit). "The rule of thumb is that an edit of a page that is spelling corrections, formatting, and minor rearranging of text should be flagged as a 'minor edit'." --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 14:31, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Hindu politicians
Hi. Can you tell me if there is any need for the category Hindu politicians. I don't seem to find that it adds much sense to the politician bios. - Aksi_great (talk) 19:38, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I have nominated the Category:Hindu politicians for deletion. You can put up your comments as to why the category should be deleted or kept here - Aksi_great (talk) 20:59, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * While I am at your talk page, here are some links which could prove useful to you if you are interested in India related articles. Please feel free to contact me on my talk page if you need any help.

- Aksi_great (talk) 21:01, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

CfD tag
Please do not empty the category or remove this notice while the discussion is in progress. You can give your reasons while in the discussion link that I gave you. - Aksi_great (talk) 08:00, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Leaving?
Hi. Noticed the comment on your user page. Are you leaving? Please reconsider your decision. Your inputs to articles would be appreciated. - Aksi_great (talk) 04:58, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Nutcase
The place to seek a ban on any 'nutcase' (your words, not mine) is on WP:AN/I. Put up your complaint on that page and the admins will take note. Your work is nice, keep it up and do not get frustrated. Also, you may like to keep in touch with the rest of the Indian crowd on WT:INWNB. ImpuMozhi 04:31, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

License tagging for Image:Adi Shankara Statue.jpg
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Hinduism
--D-Boy 17:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Pictures
Hello! The problem with the licenses you selected for the pictures, is that usage of those pictures on the Adi Shankara article would still amount to copyright violation, as it does not come under the purview of the fair use rationale. I'm not an expert at picking licenses. Perhaps you should contact and ask him. He seems to rather inactive the past few days, so perhaps a note to might help too. -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph15:58, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi,
 * Both the images are tagged fair-use. Since they both are about the same person, only one should remain. I found that you are using one already in the article, so leave that and delete the other. However, the higher resolution image may be licensed under the GFDL. Looking at the copyright notice you provided, I saw that many of the images from yogadvaita.com are taken from himalayanacademy.com. The latter's copyright notice states that the images may be licensed under GFDL. If the image in question can be traced back to himalayanacademy.com, or some free alternative is found at the site, prefer to use it over fair-use images. &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 05:26, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi
Hi, Please see the Adi Shankara FAC where some comments have been made. I feel it is a very good candidate for FA. But I guess the article is a bit tough for non-Indians! --Dwaipayan (talk) 08:10, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Problem with one of the images. See the FAC.--Dwaipayan (talk) 08:27, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 * FlickR is not public domain. I tell you this from my own experience. I also used to think the same and uploaded some photos from FlickR for several articles. But later, I had to ask permission from the respective uploaders/ request them to change licensing for particular images. This particularly happened during the FAC of Kolkata. I request to see the following images and their license patterns: Image:KolkataFlowermarket.jpg, Image:KolkataMixedTraffic.jpg and Image:KolkataCofeehouse123.jpg. Please try to collect such permission, or, request the owners to change the license tag. Otherwise the FAC of this article could be lost in this ground only! And you know in FACs, a single oppose vote with solid rationale can lead to a flurry of Oppose votes. So please try to do this ASAP. If you fail to take the permission soon, remove the photo temporarily. You can always re-insert the photo later when you receive the permission. --Dwaipayan (talk) 15:51, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey, this web reference in the article is not working, and the retrival date is in the future! (July 26 2006). (at present, the ref is number 24 footnote - Adi Shankara's Four Amnaya Peethams). Please do the needful. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 06:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * "Some, like Sanandana, were quick to grasp the essence. The other disciples became rather jealous of Sanandana. So, in order to convince them of Sanandana's inherent superiority, Adi Shankara one day called that disciple, who was standing on the opposite bank of the Ganga River, and asked him to come to the other side immediately. Sanandana crossed the river by walking on the lotuses that were brought out wherever he placed his foot"...there is something wrong in this story. Were both Sanandana and the other jealous disciple asked to cross the river? Plese clarify. I have tried to decrease the amount of "then" in this paragraph, as complained in the FAC. I am doing some more copyedits also. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 13:32, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't see any vandalism from this IP. It was adding factual mistakes here and there, but that's hardly uncommon on Wikipedia. dab (&#5839;) 18:54, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

images
regarding Image:Sankara-big.jpg, I am afraid your 'rationale' doesn't hold much water:
 * 1. it is of much lower resolution than the original (copies made from it will be of very inferior quality)
 * that's simply untrue. the image has exactly the same size as on the site
 * 3. Its inclusion in the article adds significantly to the article because it shows the subject of this article.
 * that's what I was asking about in the first place: according to whom does the image 'show the subject'? I could draw a stick figure and claim it is Shankara; unless this is a notable painting of Shankara by a notable artist, it doesn't really add any information, and thus the claim that the image is relevant to the article is empty. yogaadvaita.org summarily claims copyright for their whole site, but for all we know, they might have just nicked the image somewhere else; I suggest you write them and inquire about the image credits.

Similarly, in the case of Image:Sankara.jpg, this time the image is really in low resolution, but 'lower than the original'? What original? The file is exactly the same size as some image found on a geocities homepage. If we knew the image was notable, we might include it, but it appears you simply stole the drawing of some kid on geocities. That hardly "significantly adds" to the article's encyclopedicity, fair use or not. dab (&#5839;) 09:58, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't want to annoy you, but I think that for puropses of FAC, images should be critically reviewed, both for copyright status and for encyclopedicity. You can get away with fair use for low resolution images, but if you cannot pinpoint an image's origin, it is unencyclopedic: I do not think that images should be kept just because they are pretty: either they convey information, or they should be deleted. I hope you do not take my position personally, this is how I see "images on featured articles" in general. The Shankara article looks very well done otherwise. regards, dab (&#5839;) 21:08, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Blocked (by mistake)
Hi Babub, I came here to apologize for mistakenly blocking you. I was trying to block User:Babuba who vandalised your userpage was a vandalism-only account. I have immediately unblocked you. But I still would like to apologize for "tainting" your block log. Regards --Srikeit (Talk 17:00, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi
I just dropped to say hi to you. I am sure that you shall have a fine time here. --Bhadani 12:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Head's up
Regarding articles on Michael Witzel and the California Hindu textbook Controversy, I should let you know that a particular admin, dab is probably one of Witzel's students and has been threatening me with being blocked for posting the Talageri thing for some time now. He has made veiled threats against you too in the witzel talk page (probably saw that you were a Hindu in the talk page and went into a flying rage). If he does wind up blocking me, then plz monitor both articles for his POV. Thanks.Netaji 07:15, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, after you posted a comment there he posted one that said that he'd "block all the trolls". This was the first time he used the third person (instead of attacking me directly) so...Netaji 19:05, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

FAC
Hi! please try to take care of Tony's comments. Please modify the faults as he pointed out. He is a brilliat copy-editor, and will see many things that we happen to overlook. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:08, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi Babub. I noticed your comment on Tony's talk page. He is a busy person, so I will help you. Read What is a featured article? to understand 2a and 3a. User:Tony1/How to satisfy Criterion 2a is an excellent manual on how to satisfy criteria 2a for a FA. Please go through the entire document. Don't be in a hurry to make a quick fix. Read through the entire Adi Shankara article. Reading it aloud will help you identify the prose errors in the article (it helped me in Ahmedabad). After making the changes post a note on Tony's talk page and let him review your edits. The article is good and not far from FA. Go through Featured article candidates/Ahmedabad. Some of the comments there may apply to all Indian articles due to our particular style of writing. Hope this helps. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 15:03, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Political philosophy edit
Hi - you added a sentence on Gandhi to the article Political philosophy. It didn't seem relevant to the topic, which is an academic discipline rather than 'thinking about politics in general', so I've cut it for the moment. I'm happy to negotiate if you think I'm wrong. Cheers, Sam Clark 10:00, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

History of Hinduism
I agree with you that they need to be added to the conquest article, however in this particular article I think moving out into a political sphere is a mistake, as long as you can include your content so that it deals with how the muslim conquests impacted the religion, then it definitely belongs in this article. Please also try not to rely too much on Ram Sita Goel, expand your horizons for reference material. Hope that helps in giving you lead developing this section and my thinking in removing your material for the moment. As you can see the editors were not even sure if the Marathas should have gotten a mention at all as they did lower down in the article. Cheers.--Tigeroo 10:17, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I have read Goel, so my problem with him is not ad hominem. I felt him to be polemical, it was merely a suggestion you can ofcourse disagree. As for the Marathas, I think you misread the intent it was no about exclusing them, the idea was if you do include it just make the content on the page relevant to Hinduism as a religion and I am intrigued to learn about their significance to that effect. Cheers.--Tigeroo 09:49, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello
Please activate youe e-mail. Thanks. --Bhadani 15:39, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Adi Shankara
I understand. I've tried to change it say what you mean, but I'm not very happy with my own edit. If no one changes it I'll think of something else. Good work on the page! Cheers. - Cribananda 07:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

hi
Got to go to bed, so I'll look at the article tomorrow. Tony 17:06, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

babu
I absolutely loved your  amazement  you feel of dab's  patience  .Good luck and Best wishes.Bharatveer 06:28, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Will join bias project but...
I think the name should Indian (Indian subcontinent) related articles instead of Hindu. It sounds less POV and we will get more editors. For example, we can have articles such as History of Pakistan on our watchlist if we choose that name instead. GizzaChat  &#169; 13:08, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree with DaGizza and support the project's creation. I will help you in anyway I can. Rama's arrow  14:20, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


 * On the anti-Brhaminism article, Holywarrior questioned your knowledge of Hinduism. You might want to look at that. He's got a nasty habit of throwing his Missionairy POV around on pages like that.Bakaman Bakatalk 16:50, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't know right now. Maybe later. That little war left a bad taste in my mouth. DaGizza is right. It should be about the Indian subcontinent. You should also add bakaman's list--D-Boy 17:54, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't think it has to be a sub-project of bias in religion. You can make one separately for the Indian subcontinent or make it a sub-project of WP:INWNB or WP:HINDU. It would be better if all Dharmic religions and other religions of India were dealt in the same area. GizzaChat  &#169; 06:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Ganging up
Holywarrior and BhaiSaab (you must be familiar with both of them) are ganging up on me. I request you to help me out, as they are trying to join forces against me. Netaji would make a ton of noise and a stink, but with him out of the way, they are attacking Hindu users. Bakaman Bakatalk 20:33, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't care if you're Hindu or atheist or whatever, so please refrain from framing this conflict like that. BhaiSaab talk 20:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * That part does not concern BhaiSaab, it concerns personal attacks Holywarrior made.Bakaman Bakatalk 20:42, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Now Holy WArrior is truly trying to malign me [[User:Bakasuprman|Bakaman] Bakatalk 21:14, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello Babub, it seems you have been interacting with BhaiSaab Holywarrior and Bakasuprman lately, and been around the recent deletion debates. There is a lot of action on Indian related user conduct on my userpage, so feel free to have your say. There's a bit between Haphar and Subhash_bose also. There's the RfC too of course. Blnguyen | rant-line 06:24, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Hindu teacher/leader
Your input would be helpful. You can added your comments at User talk:Nightngle--D-Boy 03:52, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Fundy project
Sure, if I can help, tell me how. Best wishes. Aupmanyav 05:56, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi and thanks for activating the e-mail. --Bhadani 07:09, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Babub for your rebuttal to atheism in Gita. I added some points.

Raj2004 01:36, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

afd
hi, have a say at Articles for deletion/Dr. Syamaprasad Jana Jagaran Manch. --Soman 14:55, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Somebody's been mucking about in the Sangh Parivar article

 * I noticed that the last sane edit was by you. Is the article in your watchlist? Have you been monitoring it? I fixed as much of it as I could, but since SP is not actually a definite org there is little information about the entity as a collective. If you have anything to add to the article in the way of refs etc. please do add some. Thanks.Netaji 07:11, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the good edits on RSS.Bakaman Bakatalk 02:45, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

The new FAC
So Adi Shankara has been moved to a new FAC here. Please take care of the comments there. I hope it would make it to the FA list with some minor changes. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:33, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * No it has not. That was a mistake. Now the star has been removed. However, the star will soon shign there!! I wish somebosy non-Indian could do a copyedit. Tony is the best, but is very busy usually. However, u could ask as well. He has done a great job with Ahmedabad lateky. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:01, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Siggy trouble
Hi! You mentioned my sig causing wierd spaces. I'm not sure I'm seeing any. Could you kindly elaborate, so I could get it fixed. If the problem is that it appears alone in one line, that is because I positioned it so, under the bulleted list. Looking forward to your reply. And thanks for pointing it out! -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph06:31, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks, for replying to Dab. Dab does sometimes have constructive comments; we colloborated together on Rudram but sometimes, he lashes out and makes comments that can be misinterpreted.

Raj2004 11:54, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Need a more informed perspective

 * Hi. I was wondering if you could offer a perspective on User:Holywarrior's suggestion that anti-Brahmanism and Brahmanism be merged. Could you please contribute to the Talk:anti-Brahmanism page? Thank you very much.Hkelkar 11:14, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Category:Hindu politicians
Any inkling why it was deleted? There is a Category:Muslim politicians. I feel there is some anti-Hindu bias here. Bakaman Bakatalk 02:25, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Adi Shankara
Congrats on getting the article featured! Great job! :) -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph 19:03, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Why dont you submit it for Portal:India/Selected article candidates? FAs are speedy promoted.-- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph 07:03, 31 August 2006 (UTC)