User talk:Badagnani/Archive 18

Absence of Blacks Map
Please review or remove the graphic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Absenceblacks.png. The county of Laramie County, Wyoming seems to have many more that 25 black people living in it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laramie_County,_Wyoming) more than 2% of a population of >80,000. Astauthamer (talk) 22:14, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Reply requested
Hi. I'd appreciate a more insightful reply, to this archived thread. You can reply here, or at my talkpage. I've put a lot of time into writing to you, and defending you, and would appreciate a reciprocal effort.

If you refuse to admit any fault, then I'm going to have to give up defending you, based purely on lack of potential-for-communication, which I do not want to do. Yes, other editors are being imperfect, and I'm trying to point that out to them also, but you're not helping things with hyperbole and reactionary habits. I need to know whether you understand/recognize that, and that you will make an effort to change certain habits. -- Quiddity (talk) 09:38, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi again. Please, take a moment to read my comments, and the ongoing thread at ANI noticeboard. We need some kind of feedback. We explain (each in our own way - some more politely or relevantly than others) what kind of feedback we're hoping for. Some of us desperately hoping for.
 * I'd recommend/request/beg that you reply to just one or two of the comments in that thread (ideally mine) in order to avoid the situation descending into semantic arguments, and to give me/us a few rounds of dialogue, so that we can try one last time to resolve the personality clashes. I do think it is possible, but only if we can get fresh input from you, about ways you are willing to adapt or change certain habits (as explained there).
 * Sincerely, and exhaustedly, -- Quiddity (talk) 08:28, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Wanting to upload a large number of photos of Vietnam
YellowMonkey had mentioned you add a lot of "photo required" tags and thought you might be interested. Basically I have a large number of photos I took while I was in Vietnam, and I'm looking for someone to sort/edit/upload these for me. The main reason for this is because the trip is actually something I don't want to really think of, for too long, and the photos can somewhat serve as a reminder. I've also posted on WT:VIET. Even if it's just advice on something, I would appreciate it. - Zero1328 Talk? 06:04, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Riley Baugus
Great job on the article. I had it on my to-do list, glad you beat me to it. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 02:38, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, nice work. I just added a tag and assessed it as a stub since there is only one section and the rest are appendixes. Viriditas (talk) 09:56, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

July 2009
in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for. Please stop. You are welcome to make useful contributions after the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text below.
 * I suppose I should have posted here sooner to offer some support. Of course I'm outraged by this absurd block on you, but hopefully you can work it all out and be back soon. I didn't have anything to say to you on it because I didn't know how to be of any help in resolving the situations and I don't think I'm in any position to do anything about the current block. I'm just hoping that you can sort it out. Oh well. Take care. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:03, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Cello rock
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Chinese languages/Dialects
I noticed you had contributed in the past to discussions on the Chinese languages/dialects. If you have time, please take a look at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_%28Chinese%29 and offer your opinion. Colipon+(T) 23:37, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Vanessa Rousso GA thanks
Thank you for your editorial contributions to Vanessa Rousso, which is now a WP:GA.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:14, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

NB
I came across this, a work in progress. Occuli (talk) 13:00, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Romanization
There's a discussion on the Cantonese talk page regarding Yale/JP that might interest you. Akerbeltz (talk) 19:09, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Ground meat
It would be nice if you put some information about ground meats (other than beef) on the ground meat page. It's basically a repeat of the ground beef page. Altonbrownisawesome (talk) 23:49, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Jianpi Wan
Hi Badagnani, As you are an active Wikipedia contributor, i would appreciate your views on the proposed deletion of Jianpi Wan at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jianpi_Wan Jianpi Wan is an ancient Chinese herbal formula to strengthen the spleen. It has long existed as an entry under Chinese classic herbal formula. 弟 (talk) 00:31, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of University of Évry Val d'Essonne
A tag has been placed on University of Évry Val d'Essonne, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing no content to the reader. Please note that external links, "See also" section, book reference, category tag, template tag, interwiki link, rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article don't count as content. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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Despite being 3 years old, this article merely reiterates the article's title, with no further content apart from the co-ords and the official website. To prevent this article being deleted, you would need to add further details (perhaps links to notable alumni who have wikipedia articles?). --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 11:08, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * By all means add content and citations to the article. It's a collaborative encyclopedia. Cheers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:55, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It's a new school (1991) in a slum and working-class, heavily-minority suburb of Paris; their graduates face uphill struggles and mostly have not reached the pinnacles of fame yet. Sadly, I can't help much, because I speak no French. Nonetheless: all colleges are inherently notable; and one that offers 160 majors and 3 doctoral programs (according to their website) certainly should not be simply speedied away! -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  20:55, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

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East Asian calligraphy
Hi, Badagnani, how's your break. Given your great interest in East Asian culture, when you are back from a break, would you care to look into the recent cut-and-paste blanking/merging/splitting done by who has no consensus or discussion for that? I think your knowledge and interests in East Asian culture would be greatly helpful for the issue. Thanks.--Caspian blue 03:15, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi. Please talk about this in Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_China. Asoer (talk) 07:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Turgut Doyurucu
Do you or anyone watching your page know if this guy is notable? I can't find sources, but he seems like he could be notable in Turkey. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:50, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Getting mass reverting for a disruptive user?
Greetings, note that User:76.120.151.113 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.120.151.113) has been going around adding redundant categories to 100+ string instrument articles. Any way we can get a moderator to revert all his edits automatically? That IP has a long history of disruptive edits. MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:33, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This is a user talk page, not a page frequented by admins. Please take your request to WP:ANI rather than bothering Badagnani with it.  Badagnani, feel free to remove this message.  Cheers.  lifebaka++ 21:40, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure it's just a collegial discussion regarding how best to approach the issue. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:11, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I concur that this discussion is important and warranted. All the additions should be reverted (preferably by the editor who added them in the first place), as all those articles, as I can tell, were already in subcategories of "String instruments." Badagnani (talk) 14:59, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Greeting
Hello, Badagnani. I was a bit worried that you would not come back since you've been very quiet since the occasion. I hope you regain enjoyment in editing Wikipedia. Best regards--Caspian blue 15:30, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Talk pages
Thank you for your message. The purpose of talk pages is to discuss improvements of the article to which the talk page belong. Talk pages are not the place for asking questions about the language or request translations. Thank you for respecting this and not inserting further comments of that kind. If you want to have Hindi translations, contact one of the many Hindi-speaking users here, ask the question in one of the hundreds of translation forums on the Internet or some other option, but please refrain from posting such requests on the talk page of Hindi. That is not the place for such requests.Jeppiz (talk) 04:26, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It's a gray area. But I don't think discussing the need for hindi words and their translations on the hindi talk page is particularly out of order. It seems to me to be a good way to go about improving the encyclopedia. If there's a better place to post the requests perhaps you could help move them there and suggest it specifically. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:10, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The place to ask for help with translations is Local Embassy (specifically Local Embassy). Jeppiz is correct that a talkpage should only be used for discussing the article it is attached to. -- Quiddity (talk) 19:38, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Being correct and being helpful are two different things in this case. It would be good to bring them together. Thanks for the pointer Quid. I think Badagnani would appreciate the requests being moved to that venue, that would certainly be preferable to their being deleted. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:04, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I've posted a note about it at WP:ANI to get the opinions of others. You are all very welcome to participate in the discussion.Jeppiz (talk) 02:37, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You actually posted the note at WP:AN, not ANI, although the Village Pump or Wikipedia talk:Talk page guidelines would probably have been a better place, since there doesn't seem to be any issue here requiring administrator attention. Propaniac (talk) 02:45, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

New cat Category:Musical_instrument_museums
Still mostly just stubs, but there have to be more out there. FWIW, I've been to 2 out of 3, and will have to hit up that Morpeth one someday... MatthewVanitas (talk) 05:33, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Ahn Eak-tai
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns with the article which you can see at Talk:Ahn Eak-tai/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:26, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Badagnani, I would highly appreciate you if you proofread the article with your fair writing ability. It is one of a few GA articles in Korean Project, and I would provide Korean sources, but proofreading is not what I can do.--Caspian blue 23:37, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Daikon
Hello, Badagnani. Since you have been working on plant/crop-related articles and familiar with Asian subjects, I'm writing this to ask for your input. I'm not sure whether you're active or not these days, but if you are around, would you care to look into these? And following discussion could be found at Talk:Daikon. As far as I've known, terms that become English do not render "its original term in the language other than English" in the intro, but the newbie insists otherwise. So I think WP:3O would be necessary. Thanks.--Caspian blue 01:45, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

David Long (musician)
This new article might be of interest to you. And this one is new also Johann Joseph Ignaz Brentner. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:10, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: derivation/etymology of ภรณ์ (phon)
It's actually อาภรณ์ (aphon), from Pali and Sanskrit . Suntharaphon is formed from sandhi between สุนทร and อาภรณ์. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:23, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * The Royal Institute Dictionary provides etymological origins of loanwords in its entries. In this case, the word is derived without changes from the Pali/Sanskrit root. The Thai script can usually be directly converted to the IAST representation or other Indic scripts, including Devanagari. I have no real knowledge of either, but substituting letter by letter, I'd agree with the script you provided. As for identifying the stems of compound terms, I'd say its a matter of experience and familiarity with the language; it's usually part of Thai language lessons taught in local schools. --Paul_012 (talk) 17:39, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * It's available online (in Thai) at http://rirs3.royin.go.th/dictionary.asp. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Mexican vihuela
Hello. I want to know your position about merging, since spanish vihuela and mexican vihuela are different instruments. Shape, material, courses (one is double coursed, the other is single coursed), type of music, all is different... The articles begins: "Vihuela is the name of two different guitar-like string instruments: the historical vihuela (proper) of 16th century Spain, usually with 12 paired strings, and the modern Mexican vihuela from 20th century Mexico with five strings and typically played in Mariachi groups."

Why did you propose mergeto|Vihuela? --Opus88888 (talk) 08:21, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of World Doctors Orchestra
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Commons:Commons:Village_pump
You're being mentioned at the place. Your images obtained from emails could be deleted unless you forward received emails and your sending emails to WP:OTRS (permissions-commons@wikimedia.org). This is a pointer.--Caspian blue 04:44, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Your revert warring
I know this message will most likely be deleted (as with every one of my posts), but what right do you have to essentially ban me from every China-related article that you have edited? All I'm trying to do is contribute to en.wiki, and you just wash away every edit of mine with some "+" edit summary. That's not okay. I was willing to work with you on some articles, but this alone is already beginning to change my mind. GraYoshi2x► talk 19:25, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hm..no. GraYoshi2x. According to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject China/Archive/May 2009 You were the only one against the usage of Wikitionary, so please drop the meaningless edit warring with Badagnani.Caspian blue 19:43, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I wasn't talking about the linking. I was talking about Badagnani's reverting behavior in itself. Please don't change the subject. GraYoshi2x► talk 19:46, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm..no, GraYoshi2x, you started the edit warring by removing the wikitionary linking and did not leave any edit summary most of time for the change.--19:48, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You're not understanding me. It's not a case of who started it first.


 * Never mind. Just forget it. GraYoshi2x► talk 19:52, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Please review these proposed changes
See the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Contemporary_music. Thank you. --Jubilee♫ clipman 16:31, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Category: Jewish inventors
Hi there. I deleted this category yesterday as a result of this discussion which I presume you were unaware of. I've just deleted it again. If you would like the category to be recreated, you need to take it to deletion review. Thanks. Ged UK  22:41, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Done Recreated and re-populated. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:11, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Guidelines for external links
Please respect WP:EL and the outcomes of the many WP:EL-related disputes you've been involved in, and please refrain from reverting cleanup of inappropriate external links without comment or discussion. . Thanks! --Ronz (talk) 03:21, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Magibon
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Magibon
I've re-nominated her for deletion. Pisomojado (talk) 07:06, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Universal Record Database Entry
Hello Badagnani,

I saw that you were interested in creating an entry about the Universal Record Database. Is this still on your radar? I'm writing from URDB and we would be grateful for your neutral writeup. Our About page should provide some history on the website and the founders. Please let me know if there is any more information I could get to you.

Best regards, Sarah Sfalco1 (talk) 17:17, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, where exactly did I express such interest? Badagnani (talk) 09:10, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it was more accurate to say you were interested in someone writing an entry for URDB? Here's the link: Sfalco1 (talk) 18:53, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Your edit-warring with GraYoshi2x
Please at least use meaningful edit-summaries in your edit-war with GraYoshi2x. Edit-summaries may not prevent you for being blocked again, but at least demonstrate that you're willing to communicate at the same level as others. --Ronz (talk) 18:32, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Racerecordscatalog.jpg
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Summaries
Hi. The article Pinnacle Point Man popped up in my watchlist. I spent quite a few seconds trying to discern from the diff what changes had been made. I just wanted to remind you to please use edit summaries! Often only a couple of words are needed. (I think in that diff you were just removing blank lines? An edit summary of "rm blanklines" would have been ideal in that case.) Much thanks. -- Quiddity (talk) 18:56, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Courtesy notice - WP:AN3
Your editing is being discussed at WP:AN3 --Ronz (talk) 00:43, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I have warned GraYoshi, and that warning applies to you as well. Edit-warring across numerous pages is unacceptable, and your block log is long enough that not many administrators are going to have patience with you. Please do not make large-scale, undiscussed reverts like this again, or you may be blocked. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 04:09, 21 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, why not undo the blanking before making such a warning? The warning seems to have been made just after the other editor undid every single one of my edits, getting nearly 100 articles just the way s/he wanted them. The improvement of our articles is foremost in my mind with each edit I make, and the other editor is a long-term stalker who has devoted often more than 50 percent of his/her edits to undoing my own (on whatever subject) since March 2009. One can't simply police Wikipedia by intimidation, without doing so in an impartial manner, showing that the "enforcers" also have the good of our articles, content, and users foremost in their minds. Badagnani (talk) 04:20, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * "Why not undo the blanking" is just a way of asking me to continue your edit war for you, which is not appropriate.
 * I have reviewed the discussions linked and it looks like the consensus of the May discussion was more or less in favor of wikt links, but it was not made explicit. Given how much you and GraYoshi have already edit-warred, it would be better for you to start another discussion there asking outside editors to clarify the consensus, and let them determine whether or not to revert the articles. You are in no position to revert any more. (And neither is GraYoshi, whom I have also warned about this, so please do not accuse me of being partial.) r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 04:25, 21 November 2009 (UTC)


 * No, that is not what I am asking. I am asking that such "enforcement" be made in an impartial manner, one that does not uphold months and months of stalking that are directed only toward undoing my edits, and showing that the "enforcer" really does have our articles, content, and users foremost in his/her mind. The request not to edit these articles any longer on my part was made, as I mentioned, just moments after the other editor had undone my edits in every single article, removing content supported by the community (save the single, habitually stalking/content-removing editor) in every instance. Again, your interest in my editing of our project is greatly appreciated. Badagnani (talk) 04:28, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The only reason I warned you after GraYoshi's edits is because that's when I noticed the dispute. If I had noticed right after your edits, I would have warned you then. Please don't assume partiality when there's only coincidences. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 04:47, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

You are edit warring about links to Wiktionary
Hello Badagnani. See WP:AN3. If you join the discussion at the noticeboard and promise to stop the war, you may be able to avoid sanctions. My strong inclination is to block both parties per WP:LAME. I shouldn't have to remind you of how many past blocks are in your log. EdJohnston (talk) 04:07, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Pickled tofu
What type of consensus would be necessary? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hmm... (talk • contribs) 07:23, 22 November 2009 (UTC) Nevermind, didn't know there was a request page. --Hmm... (talk) 07:34, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Got it- i reverted to a non-move request version, you might want to check to see that it's correct. Skier Dude  ( talk ) 08:00, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I suppose both are fine as long as the attribution is maintained ;) Sjschen (talk) 16:18, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Wiktionary links, again
And it looks like, even after the numerous warnings at your talk page, you have just gone on to other areas and continued adding wiktionary links:. As far as I can tell, you have made no attempt to start a discussion before doing this. If I had seen you while you were doing it (instead of 2 days later), I would have blocked you. Do not do make these kinds of controversial edits again without starting a discussion somewhere. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 18:15, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your continued interest in my editing. The practice of adding Wiktionary links in a selective manner, providing etymological information when dealing with Chinese or Chinese-derived script, enhances our articles and has been discussed at length (including here), with no problem found except by the constant-stalking editor. No action has been taken, ever, by any admin, against this stalking, showing a clear lack of impartiality on your part. If you can be impartial, your comments here will be more highly valued. Thank you again for your interest in my editing--I have done so for many years and added many hundreds of new articles to our project (for which I have received no thanks from you--why is that?). Badagnani (talk) 03:12, 25 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Again, no one is being partial here. The reason I warned you and not him is that he has not edited since his last warning and you have. Your insistence on calling foul every time someone warns you is disruptive and annoying. I see you have been blocked in the past for "communication problems", and you are continuing to refuse to communicate properly. Needlessly criticizing the person who warns you, rather than addressing the actual issues, does nothing to improve the discussion. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 16:15, 25 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Notice Your participation to WT:CHINA is expected to end the dispute.--Caspian blue 17:33, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Korean regional cuisine
If possible, your help to proof-read the new article would be highly appreciated. Thanks.--Caspian blue 16:48, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the copy-editing and have a great weekend and holiday.--Caspian blue 19:47, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Chinese cuisine templates
Hi Badagnani, thanks for your comments on my talk. I'm just helping out whenever again on the WPCHINA project. Feel free to improve. I've seen your work in WPCHINA articles, keep up the good work. :) --Visik (talk) 02:02, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Music of Australia
Hi, have you read our external links guidelines? These links do not add anything encyclopedic to the article in a way that can not be written into the article itself. Most of them aren't even about the general topic of music in Australia but rather specific subtopics, which are not appropriate to be linked to from articles on general topics. Also, organization homepages are inappropriate unless linked to from the article about that organization. Are there any specific links which you wish to contest? If not, please consider reremoving the links, as per WP:ELNO points 1, 11, and 13.  Them From  Space  06:47, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, I just saw you remove the EL warning that someone else gave you. Please reread WP:EL because it seems that you don't see the use in EL cleanup, or article cleanup in general, both at Music of Australia and Oud.  Removing indiscriminate collections of information, especially examplefarms and spamfarms, is beneficial and you shouldn't discourage editors from doing this.  I've reverted you at this article as well and I see from Requests_for_comment/Badagnani that this has been an issue for you in the past as well. Take our external links guidelines to heart, please.  Them  From  Space  03:33, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Romanization
''Why are there two romanizations in Chinese? According to Unihan http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=4EAC there is only one pinyin version of this for this character.''

Standard romanization of Non-Han Chinese things, people, place,... neednot to be pinyin, e.g. Harbin, Urumq, Va people, Hohhot. But this non-pinyin names are hardly to be remenbered by common Chinese people.--刻意(Kèyì) 01:19, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Goze
Hello. I removed a great deal of commentary from the References section to make it conform to the standard format used on Wikipedia. However, I realize the removed information may be informative, in which case I suggest you add it in as a footnote, HTML comment, or as a section on the article's talk page. armagebedar (talk) 03:37, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Harrassment
Hi Badagnani. I was wondering if you wouldn't mind lending your opinion on something. The user Bdb484 from the oud article has been adding what I know are bogus speedy deletion templates to an article I created on a famous Yemeni oud player, Jamil Ghanim. He began doing this almost as soon as I created the article yesterday, and has not once stopped, nor has even bothered attempting to explain which exact passages from which source he believes are "plagiarized". The article's talk page is filled with my comments, not his. I notice that he recently added a threatening message to your talk page with regard to the oud article, and that you of course deleted this bogus message. Well, he's basically doing the same thing with me now, and with no point here either. Basically, I was wondering if you could have a look at the Jamil Ghanim article and give your assessment of it. If you see anything which you feel needs work, please feel free to do so. I will assist you myself in this in any way I can (sources, rewriting, etc.). Best, Middayexpress (talk) 18:46, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Requiem (Mozart)/Tuba mirum
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Regina Spektor Photo
Although it was my upload, I agree with your revert of the photo on the Regina Spektor page. It probably is too dark - I have a feeling my monitor is badly uncalibrated. Would you agree that a new photo is needed though? The current photo depicts her with weighted Electronic piano, which is not her main instrument either. Perhaps a photo with her at the piano? Thanks, --Tom dl (talk) 21:08, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Mushroom moves
Thank you very much for reverting many attempted summary moves of mushroom articles away from common names. That was greatly appreciated. Badagnani (talk) 02:59, 28 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure thing. :-)  ENeville (talk) 15:54, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

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hello
Hi, since you're active on Chinese article and can read Korean, I really need help at two clothing article. It's a well known fact that Tang Dynasty's clothing have been influenced by Central Asians (due to Tang's expansion in the area) but those are clothings are like these + +. User Cydevil38 use Korean sources to state that Banbi and Beizi are "adopt" from central asian, and both of these clothings aren't visible in Central Asian clothings. I believe he is using Foreign influences during Tang Dynasty to generalize that all of Tang's clothing are adopt from there. He provided Korean sources I can't read or having the full version of it available. What should i do...--LLTimes (talk) 20:45, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I think sources should be found in other languages than Korean, or that editor should translate the relevant passages into English and provide them in the footnotes (if you request him/her to do that, it is important that s/he do that). Badagnani (talk) 20:47, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * sry i fixed the link to the images...you can check the image now ! and I actually did tell him at here which is on 27 October 2009. and he's been active after that date...ignoring me.. --LLTimes (talk) 20:50, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

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Temple/Pagoda
Hi, about this translation of "chùa", there was a discussion here (in which you also shared your opinion). The translation from "chùa" to "pagoda" is widely used in guide books, historical books,... so why don't we continue to use this term instead of argueing about which is correct?Grenouille vert (talk) 08:25, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


 * This is not an argument, this is a discussion. A pagoda is a very tall tower-like building. Is that where the education took place, in the very tall tower? Badagnani (talk) 18:54, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Which is correct is not important here, the point is how "chùa" is translated in existed documents, I'm using A history of Vietnam: from Hong Bang to Tu Duc by Chapuis, he used the term "pagoda" to denote "chùa", in Việt Nam Borderless Histories, it was even noted that: "In many Vietnamese villages an architectural complex of temples (miếu and đền), pagodas, and the đình constituted the infrastructure of village culture and religious life" (page 34). And for your information, many pagodas, I mean chùa, are so poor that they cannot have their own tower (tháp), real tall towers (different than small tower which is monk's tomb) appear only in principal pagoda of a region or pagoda in big city. Grenouille vert (talk) 20:10, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


 * The question was, did the education take place in the very tall tower-like building? If not, the English term "pagoda" (which refers to a tall tower-like building) is inappropriate in this context. Badagnani (talk) 05:54, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Hoa Kỳ
I have nominated Hoa Kỳ, an article that you have edited repeatedly, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Hoa Kỳ. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Fol de rol troll (talk) 01:31, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Inna Gilmore
Might interest you. I haven't investigated enough to decide definitively on notability. Take care. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:09, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Atkins Nutritionals, Inc.
Hello,

My name is Andrea Davidoff and I work for RF|Binder Partners, the PR agency of record for Atkins Nutritionals, Inc.

I recently posted on the Atkins diet Wikipedia talk page regarding some suggested changes for the Atkins Wikipedia entry. I noticed you have an interest in the Dieting Wikipedia page, and I would appreciate your assistance in reviewing these edits. We want to be sure to follow Wikipedia's guidelines relating to corporate voice on the site, so I am avoiding making these changes myself.

Of course, any edits to the site are solely up to you, I only wish to draw your attention to this page as we feel some of the information is outdated and inaccurate.

If you wish to contact me to discuss this further, please leave a message for me on my talk page or email me at andrea DOT davidoff AT rfbinder DOT com.

Suggestions for the Atkins Wikipedia entry:

1. We suggest a new section in the main entry “Scientific Support for the Atkins Nutritional Approach” as a foil to the “Controversies” section as several prominent scientists have used the Atkins Diet for a wide variety of illnesses. Some examples include:

a. Low-Carbohydrate Diets and the Brain - Eric H. W. Kossoff, M.D., Assistant Professor, Neurology and Pediatrics Medical Director, Ketogenic Diet Center Director, Pediatric Neurology Residency Program Johns Hopkins Hospital.

i. Kossoff, E. H., Krauss, G. L., and McGrogan, J. R., Freeman, J. M., "Efficacy of the Atkins diet as therapy for intractable epilepsy," From the Department of Neurology, The Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions, 61, 2003, pages 1789–1791.

b. An Updated Perspective on the Role of Dietary Saturated Fat on Cardiovascular Risk - Jeff S. Volek, Ph.D., R.D., Assistant Professor, University of Connecticut, Neag School of Education.

i. Volek, J.S., Sharman, M.J., and Gomez A.L., et al., "An Isoenergetic Very Low Carbohydrate Diet Improves Serum HDL Cholesterol and Triacylglycerol Concentrations, the Total Cholesterol to HDL Cholesterol Ratio and Postprandial Lipemic Responses Compared with a Low Fat Diet in Normal Weight, Normolipidemic Women," The Journal of Nutrition, 133(9), 2003, pages 2756-2761.

ii. Volek, J.S., Westman, E.C., "Very-Low-Carbohydrate Weight-Loss Diets Revisited," Cleveland Clinic Journal of Medicine, 69(11), 2002, pages 849-862.

2. We suggest the addition of new scientific, peer-reviewed studies for the “Scientific Studies” section. These studies have been funded and researched by outside third parties and are backed by scientific facts.

a. Shai, I., Schwarzfuchs, D., Henkin, Y., et al., “Weight loss with a Low-Carbohydrate, Mediterranean, or Low-Fat Diet,” New England Journal of Medicine, 359(3), 2008, pages 229-241.

b. Foster, G.D., Wyatt, H.R., Hill, J.O., et al., "A Randomized Trial of Low-Carbohydrate Diet for Obesity,” New England Journal of Medicine, 348(21), 2003, pages 2082-2090.

c. Brehm, B.J., Seeley, R.J., Daniels, S.R., D’Alessio, D.A., “A Randomized Trial Comparing a Very Low Carbohydrate Diet and a Calorie-Restricted Low Fat Diet on Body Weight and Cardiovascular Risk Factors in Healthy Women,” Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism, 88(4), 2003, pages 1617-1623.

d. Brehm, B.J., Spang, S.E., Lattin, B.L., et al., “The Role of Energy Expenditure in the Differential Weight Loss in Obese Women on Low-Fat and Low-Carbohydrate Diets,” Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism, 90(3), 2005, pages 1475-1482.

e. Samaha, F.F., Iqbal, N., Seshadri, P., et al., “A Low-Carbohydrate as Compared with a Low-Fat Diet in Severe Obesity,” New England Journal of Medicine, 348(21), 2003, pages 2074-2081.

f. Seshadri, P., Iqbal, N., Stern, L., et al., “A Randomized Study Comparing the Effects of a Low-Carbohydrate Diet and a Conventional Diet on Lipoprotein Subfractions and C-reactive Protein Levels in Patients with Severe Obesity,” American Journal of Medicine, 117(6), 2004, pages 398-405.

g. Greene, P., Willett, W., Devecis, J., et al., “Pilot 12-Week Feeding Weight-Loss Comparison: Low-fat Vs. Low-Carbohydrate (Ketogenic) Diets,” abstract presented at The North American Association for the Study of Obesity Annual Meeting 2003, Obesity Research, 11S, 2003, page 95OR.

h. Westman, E.C., Yancy, W.S., Edman, J.S., et al., “Effect of 6-Month Adherence to a Very Low Carbohydrate Diet Program,” American Journal of Medicine, 113(1), 2002, pages 30-36.

3. Please elevate the Atkins Diet article from Start-Class to a higher quality rating. Related to this, we request an assessment of the article’s importance on Wikipedia’s Importance Scale.

I look forward to working with you.

ADavidoff (talk) 20:49, 16 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I assume you have an interest in this diet. All of our articles should be written from an impartial point of view, not favoring certain results over others (I assume the studies cited above all show how good this diet is, as opposed to pointing out any problems with it). Badagnani (talk) 20:53, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

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Names/etymology
I'd much rather discuss with you on this instead of a pointless edit war. So far you haven't really done much to communicate with me, and I would appreciate having some input than a "+names" or "restore important x" as edit summaries. Thanks. GraYoshi2x► talk 18:06, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Again, please discuss your edits. I'm giving you a chance to do so, and the only comment you've left so far at Talk:Daikon gives me no perspective or reasoning whatsoever. <font color="#006600">GraYoshi2x► talk 17:53, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

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庐剧
No idea which tone for 倒.

Also, the pronunciations of both characters in 庐剧 are available on Wiktionary. -- ran (talk) 04:30, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Regina Spektor
Hi. As I explained - all people born in the former Soviet Union were born with a patronymic of the father's forename. In Spektor's case that would Ilyinichna (from "Ilya"), it is even included in the Cyrillic transliteration of her name: Регина (Regina) Ильинична (Ilyinichna) Спектор (Spektor). If you have any further questions, please contact the WikiProject Russia/Russia-related Wikipedia notice board. Yours, Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 13:37, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi
I am from Chinese Wikipedia.I am very glad to see you in the wiki about China's contribution.Similarly, I am also very fond of the United States. I am very glad to help If you have any need about China .I very glad to become friends with you. What about you?--风之清扬 (talk) 04:00, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh dear，i forgotten to wish you merry Xmas and happy new years.--风之清扬 (talk) 04:26, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Question re: image upload/conversion
Hi Badagnani. I noticed you uploaded a few months back. Can you tell me how you converted the PDF image to a PNG file? Did you need external software for this, or were you able to do it some other way? -- Eastlaw  talk ⁄ contribs 10:03, 25 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I can't remember how I did it. Maybe I used Photoshop? There is also a very good program called FastStone Capture which can scan any image on your computer, although its resolution isn't terribly good. Badagnani (talk) 17:33, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: Do you know Shanghainese?
Yes, I can certainly help with the Shanghainese pronunciations of Chinese characters. Bloodmerchant (talk) 06:05, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

All done. It's at 江 Bloodmerchant (talk) 06:26, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

WP:CTM election notice
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Hi
Please show support:Deletion review/Log/2009 December 28 <font style="color:white;background:#fe0000;"> Arilang  talk  10:05, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Krakebs sound
I have heard the Krakebs, and I thought it would be interesting to add a sound file with the sound. It would add more information about the krakebs and this could be done with other instruments, that are not so well known as well. We would need someone to record a small file and upload it to the mediawiki. --Francisco Valverde (talk) 19:18, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
Hello Badagnani! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 23 of the articles that you created  are  Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. Please note that all biographies of living persons must be sourced. If you were to add reliable, secondary sources to these articles, it would greatly help us with the current Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the list:


 * 1) Shubhendra Rao -
 * 2) Jo Kondo -
 * 3) Fulvio Caldini -
 * 4) Harald Weiss -
 * 5) Tristan Murail -
 * 6) Richard Myers (filmmaker) -
 * 7) John Strohm -
 * 8) Gordon Stout -
 * 9) Patrick Meighan -
 * 10) Tom Abbs -

11. Sarah Peebles 12. Elisabeth Kværne 13. John Ferritto 14. Agnes Buen Garnås 15. Kuku Sebsebe 16. Ronald Caltabiano 17. Paul Hanson 18. Krishna Bhatt 19. Robert Taub 20. Sherif Mohie El Din 21. Elisabeth Chojnacka 22. Shin-ichiro Ikebe 23. Rafe Stefanini

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 19:29, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Kindly write to me in a human rather than templated manner in the future. The articles do all contain sources, if every sentence doesn't have a citation. Badagnani (talk) 05:57, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Happy New Year
I finally made it over to Little Saigon. It was pretty awesome. Lots of things to try. Take care. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:27, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Hello, Badagnani, best wishes from Northern Italy (A wikipedian from Alessandria, Piedmont) Garr, 17:00, 5 Juanuary 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.148.63.215 (talk)

Goblet drum
Hi, Badagnani.

I haven't heard from you about the translations since last week. I wanted to check in and see if you'd found any sources for them or given any more thought to my questions about the encyclopedic nature of such an inclusion.

If not, I'm planning to remove the material today or tomorrow. Again, I'll just hide it, rather than deleting it, so the material is easy for you get to in the event you come up with sources or find consensus for such an inclusion. Thanks. — Bdb484 (talk) 17:15, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Again, many of the names are so well known (and even have their own articles) that they would not merit deletion. Let's work together to find sources rather than attack one another and work to degrade our content. Badagnani (talk) 20:17, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


 * You know, I spent this last week looking for sources and couldn't come up with even one, which makes me think that maybe these aren't accurate translations. I'd err on the side of including them, except that we still haven't found anyone who can explain why a list of translations is appropriate for an encyclopedia entry or useful to a reader looking to learn about the goblet drum. So I'm going to go ahead and hide them. I think it would be best if you were to then unhide each of them individually as you find reliable sources. — Bdb484 (talk) 23:21, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Again, many of the names are very well known and even have their own WP articles. You again and again fail to address this issue. I don't know which sources you used but most likely none of them were print sources such as the "New Grove Dictionary." Badagnani (talk) 23:44, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

In reply to your edit summary, "adding another reference (why has the editor who demanded references not added even a single reference yet, yet demanding that other editors do so?", simply refer to WP:V which states, "Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed." "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material." --Ronz (talk) 00:56, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Be aware that a user is permitted to delete stuff from their talk page, as it implies they've read it; and that continual posting on a talk page when asked not to, is an etiquette breach. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I'm using this talk page appropriately. I'll happily take advise on how to present my comments better. --Ronz (talk) 01:06, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * That's easy. Present them in an RfC, rather than in an edit war that makes you look as bad as him. -GTBacchus(talk) 03:51, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

ANI case
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Bdb484 (talk) 01:38, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi again. Just an update on the ANI case, which you don't seem to have had a chance to chime in at yet. There are several editors (including admins) who would like to see you blocked indefinitely. But it's clear to me, at least, that despite your chronic communication problems, you are making a lot of valuable contributions.


 * I've therefore endorsed another user's suggestion that instead of being blocked, the admins impose a WP:1RR restriction instead, which would allow you to continue editing freely without getting bogged down in high-level content disputes or edit wars. I'm hoping that you (or any other user who monitors this page) will chime in at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents and let us know whether they think this might be an acceptable route to take.


 * Thanks. — Bdb484 (talk) 01:01, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Invitation
I note that a lot of your contributions are sadly deleted. I would like to invite you to the article rescue squadron, a group of over 300 editors dedicated to rescuing articles by adding sources.

1RR and other comments
Hi. I don't know if you've been following the ANI thread, but the participants there have come to a conclusion. Essentially, if you can agree to voluntarily abide by WP:1RR in the future (The 1 revert rule. Always taking disputes to the talkpage, rather than reverting a second time), then Ronz and GraYoshi2x have agreed to also abide by 1RR, and they will try to avoid any interaction with you.

The only alternative being raised there is taking the matter to ArbCom, which I think everyone would prefer to avoid, if possible.

Please briefly reply (here or there) as to whether you can agree to "1RR and interaction discouragement" as a solution. Thanks. -- Quiddity (talk) 21:08, 7 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your interest in my editing. I'm not sure I understand this conclusion or how you see that one has been arrived at, as I see conflicting opinions at that page you referred me to. I am also confused why the user "Bdb484" was nincluded in this, as his/her editing practice (always removing large areas of text on articles that have been worked on by many knowledgeable editors over a period of years, then reverting again and again in a hyperaggressive manner, and showing little knowledge or interest in the actual subjects of the articles) is not included in this pool of editors who should be restricted to a single revert per day. The issue really is one of content, and the highly aggressive removals, and over 1 year of stalking, and accusations that I am a "spammer" (going on to this very day) on the part of these editors is very trying to an editor who prides him/herself in ensuring that our articles are as good and encyclopedic as possible. I love to work with other editors but this gang of three really are nearly impossible to work with in a collegial manner, as they follow me everywhere, always in an attempt to delete content, and never in the "building together" manner I really prefer, and which I think characterizes the ethos that our project represents at its best. Reversion would not be necessary by anyone if consensus were first built by these highly aggressive editors before large areas of text are removed from articles. Badagnani (talk) 03:19, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


 * By the way, have you seen User "GTBacchus"'s comments at User_talk:Ronz? What do you think of those, in light of the fact that User "GTBacchus" seems to present him/herself as an impartial administrator? If this is the way he presents himself in on-Wiki discussions I can't imagine what kind of things he is saying on the off-Wiki discussions that are certainly going on behind the scenes. Badagnani (talk) 03:25, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Point by point:


 * Bdb484: Do you have a long history of negative interaction with Bdb484? I was familiar with your interactions with GraYoshi2x and Ronz, but I do not recall seeing Bdb484's name until the last week. Depending on what your history with him is (ie. is it days, weeks, months, or years long? Does it span a few, or dozens of articles?), I'll ask him about modifying his interactions with you, and good-faith presumptions, accordingly.


 * GTBacchus: Those are some extremely disappointing comments. I'll definitely talk to him about that later.


 * Your habits that need improvement:
 * 1. Some editors are upset at your unclear/incorrect edit summaries, eg. It would be good if you could be more careful to keep edit-summaries brief and informative, and not editorialize in them (eg, this kind of information just clutters up the history page, and is unlikely to ever be seen).
 * 2. You use a lot of hyperbole and superlatives in your talkpage comments, which ends up lessening the impact they have on readers. You also tend to write in 'generalities' instead of specifics, when in disputes. For example, at Talk:Goblet drum and in editsummaries (eg), you didn't ever explain why a list of names/translations was fundamental/basic/etc. From Bdb484's perspective (as I imagine it) the list of names that he originally deleted is very long, and looks quite like a misplaced/misformatted list of interwiki links. Can you see how he would have interpreted it as something akin to "a list of 250 translations of the word 'spoon' in a top-section at the spoon article", and hence understandably deleted it?
 * 3. Sources. This is the main issue that multiple editors see as a problem: Some editors have a particularly strict interpretation of WP:Reliable sources. However, linking to commercial sites, like this, is something that even moderate-RS-interpreting editors are uncomfortable with. I'll try to find some more examples to discuss in detail, later. But basically, it would be good if you could be a lot more careful as to which internet sites you use as sources (eg. blogs and flickr images are not usable. Commercial sites should be avoided. Primary sources are tricky). Give WP:RS a thorough read through, if you haven't done so recently.


 * I'll leave it at that for now. Along with any other replies you'd like to give to the above, could you please specifically tell me how extensive your history with Bdb484 is, and either accept or turn-down the suggested 1RR editing-restriction? (so that we can begin to close out the ANI thread.) Thanks again. -- Quiddity (talk) 05:50, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Since I'm mentioned here.... Badagnani, I do not present myself as impartial when it comes to you. I acknowledge that I'm still upset with the shitty treatment I received from you in the past, and I see no evidence that you understand how or why you've upset so many people. You told vile lies about me (yes, I've got diffs), and frankly, I dislike you rather strongly. That said, if you respond to the criticisms coming from your peers here, and if you adjust your behavior in recognition of community norms regarding communication, then you'll be welcome here. In that event, I'll shut the hell up and stay out of your way. Personally, I don't think you can, and that's why I think you should leave. Very, very few editors have ever pushed me to such a position. As for your assumption that I'm talking about you off-wiki: Don't flatter yourself. I don't do backroom politics, I'm not friends off-wiki with other Wikipedians, I don't talk about you in my spare time, and your assuming that you know what I do off-wiki is another manifestation of what I find disgusting about your attitude. You don't know shit about me. What I have to say about you, I'm comfortable saying to your face. I don't like you. I think your social skills are completely absent. I don't even like not liking you, because I don't like to feel this way about anyone; it doesn't bring out the best side of me (obviously). In order to keep working here, you have to adjust your style of communication. I don't think you have the understanding or ability to do so, but if you prove me wrong, I will shut up and get out of the way. I fully expect that you'll delete this post, and that's just fine; you're not on my watchlist. Quiddity, I appreciate what you're doing, and I'm certainly willing to discuss my own actions in this matter. -GTBacchus(talk) 15:45, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Re:Vietnamese character for pho
From 檬粉 It wasn't displaying on here either. So I might look for another character source. Bloodmerchant (talk) 06:01, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Last minute chance
Badagnani, I think you really should appear to leave your opinion to WP:ANI. If you agree with the proposed group WP:1RR and WP:CIVILITY, you can at least avoid WP:ARBCOM against you. I know this is all stressful for you, but you have no choice at this moment. You should either explain your stance right now to ANI, or would watch yourself honestly "doomed". Although the ArbCom could ban Ronz and GraYoshi to interact with you in order to stop the ongoing disruption, it can also a high risk that you could be banned for 3 or 6 months or up to one year like some editors such as an editor who had written many FA articles and WikiCup runner-up, or also another FA contributer. In this circumstance, your fine contribution for 4 years would be underestimated, but your shortcomings would be emphasized. Therefore, the time is really impending, so you have to appear at least to ANI.--Caspian blue 16:59, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Block proposal
An editor at WP:ANI has proposed that you be blocked due to your unwillingness to discuss your edits, in the presence of numerous complaints. There is still time for you to respond at ANI if you wish to avoid this eventuality. A number of people have commented in the thread about your long-time reluctance to respond when anyone questions your edits. This may account for their low level of patience. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 02:03, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Badagnani: You are rapidly running out of time to avoid an indefinite block. Please chime in at Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents/Badagnani before it is too late. — Bdb484 (talk) 21:56, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

ArbCom case
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Thanks,

— Bdb484 (talk) 02:36, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


 * The case was archived today in the edit after this. Just a note/link for ease of access. -- Quiddity (talk) 20:11, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Indef block
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The above arbitration request is probably going to be rejected as unneeded. This account is blocked indefinitely per discussions at Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive554 and Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents/Badagnani. This is a block, not a community ban. If the editor addresses concerns properly and make a convincing unblock statement, that can be decided. I will request a community discussion prior to any unblock as many people have spent a lot of time investigating and working on this matter. Any administrator who considers an unblock request needs to fully familiarize themselves with the facts of the matter. This may take some time and discussion, especially with regard to possible unblocking conditions such as editing restrictions. An indef block was already approved at Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive554, but a final chance one month block was placed instead with the blocking admin noting that the next block should be indefinite. Thus, this block is indefinite. Jehochman Brrr 23:54, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You deserve better than this swamp Badagnani. Jehochman is delivering punishing you for your having been hounded for months. Oh well. Take care of yourself and have fun. Happy New Year. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:01, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If it is wanted, I'd like to offer you my advice on any questions you might have. There are a few valid frames-of-reference for looking at some of these conflicts you've been having, but you need to communicate with us for anything positive to happen! Ask us anything, and I (and probably others) will try to explain my [some of our] view[s]. And/Or reply to some of the comments above, as a start. -- Quiddity (talk) 04:51, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * What is to discuss? Badagnani edits in good faith. He has contributed an ENORMOUS amount to the encyclopedia and engages collegially with lots of editors. Unfortunately, there are several editors who disagree with him who relentlessly chase him to new articles to incite conflict. Some others who have old grudges againt him have joined in to take this opportunity to try to get rid of him, and Jehochman has once again short circuited our established processes, disregarded our procedures and imposed his personal whim. SNAFU. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:07, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * "I agree with his editorial slant, am typically not an active editor in articles his edits have diminished from, and he hasn't been rude to me. How dare anyone else find fault with him?" Badger Drink (talk) 18:17, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I suggest anyone who is upset take a deep breath, step back, and give Badagnani a chance to respond. If he wants to respond, he will. If he doesn't, he won't. It's his choice now. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:13, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Peter Davies (inventor)
If anyone is watching this page, this article might be of interest. I was very sorry to see Badagnani chased off. I hope he is well. ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:09, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Albany Records
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CTM scope review
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 * 1) We refine our scope according to the "written in the last 50 years or so" statement agreed upon a few months back and included in the Overview - Scope section on the main page.
 * 2) We redefine our scope to include only living people and their works (while retaining the other relevent articles such as contemporary classical music etc).

The former position was agreed by consensus, of course, so redefining our scope to the latter position is a radical shift that needs full discussion and consensus. In essence, the question of redefining arises from the recent mass sourcing drama:
 * 1) It has been suggested that CTM take full responsibility for all composer BLPs.
 * 2) If that goes ahead, WPComposers may wish to unbanner composer BLPs and leave them to CTM (see here for example).
 * 3) Therefore, CTM simply focusses in on those people relevent to our project but not bannered by other projects eg composers with BLPs.
 * 4) Other articles on people are then treated in a similar way ie we would then cover BLPs only and their related articles (plus any other contemporary-music-related articles, as appropriate).

The full review and discussion is found at: WikiProject Contemporary music/Scope.

I am also looking more generally at our project's focus, especially as regards the notability criteria etc: User:Jubileeclipman/CTM. Thoughts on that are also most welcome!

Thank you --Jubilee♫ clipman 14:08, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

WP:CTM guidelines regarding infoboxes
In the wake of the proceedings at the Composers project, I am reviewing CTM's guidelines regarding infoboxes: at present we simply follow all the other CM-projects on this issue. I propose that we simply leave it to editors to use common sense and avoid policy-violations. Thoughts welcome at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Contemporary_music. Thank you --Jubilee♫ clipman 22:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of American hip hop
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File:Chatmasalabox.jpg listed for deletion
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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Montmorencycherrytree.jpg
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Romanization for Shanghainese
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 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Rjanag/Latin_phonetic_method_of_Shanghainese#User:Rjanag.2FLatin_phonetic_method_of_Shanghainese
 * --ZHU Yeyi (talk) 20:04, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Your input is requested
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