User talk:Badagnani/Archive 4

Lyrics
Could you quote me the part of Wikipedia that says it's OK to link to a lyric directory? AFAIK, lyrics are copyrighted material, and as LyricsDIR don't have permission, linking to the site violates WP:EL, which states that: ''Linking to copyrighted works is usually not a problem, as long as you have made a reasonable effort to determine that the page is not violating copyright per contributors' rights and obligations. Knowingly and intentionally directing others to a site that violates copyright has been considered a form of contributory infringement in the United States.''. HawkerTyphoon 22:06, 29 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I will ask you again, as you haven't answered my question: Could you quote me the part of Wikipedia that says it's OK to link to a lyric directory? HawkerTyphoon 22:19, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I haven't received a response yet, regarding which policy says that lyrics directories are acceptable, as you quoted here. Thanks, HawkerTyphoon 01:47, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Are you always on Wikipedia?
On a more light-hearted topic, I do have to ask. You seem to be Johnny-on-the-spot with responding to me :) Cheers Equinox137 05:59, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


 * It is addictive, yes. By the way, I added a category back; if you believe it doesn't fit in this one either, perhaps a "University shootings" rather than a "School shootings" category would be more appropriate?  Other longtime editors at the Kent State shootings article seem to be staying out of the discussion.  It's hard (though not impossible) to develop a consensus with just two editors discussing things.  Badagnani 06:04, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I agree. I generally try to avoid editing politics or hot issues such as this because it's an exercise in futility in the long run, but some of what's in the KS article stuck out at me.  It's kind of tough to categorize this when it boils down to it, because KS was a rare event in history.  The school shootings category doesn't seem to fit, because what they have there is generally columbine/jonesboro/etc type of incidents and this is more politically related.  However it was a school shooting obviously because it happened at a school, so if you believe it belongs there, I'll leave it alone.  This happened 36 years ago and it's not going to make a bit of difference on how it's looked at either way.  However I strongly disagree with it being "state terrorism".  I'm looking at it from an officer's perspective - if I think I see a weapon and aggressive behavior on the suspect, I'm drawing my weapon and he's going down - that simple.  I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.  Given that, you'd have to categorize every questionable shoot in American history as "state terrorism" - and the soldiers in this incident weren't even convicted by a compentent court.  Equinox137 06:17, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Kent State shootings
Contrary to the claim in your edit summary, I did back up each edit with evidence and quotes from the actual WP articles, such as the very first paragraph of the State terrorism article. You don't appear to have read any of them all the way through. I've explained the category as well. Over and above this, please give me a reason why I should not report you at this point for 3RR. Best, Badagnani 09:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


 * No sir, you have not. It was NOT an incident of state terrorism, it was a RIOT where the National Guard was called to restore order and opened fire because they claimed they were in fear for their lives.
 * Give YOU a reason? Sorry if I don't bow down before you, but maybe a good reason is that you violated it easily yourself, on top of the personal insults. Equinox137 09:42, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


 * First, please do give me the four instances of reverts that I have performed in a 24-hour period. Second, you really have not read the articles straight through. If you had, you would have read the following:


 * The President's Commission on Campus Unrest avoided the question of why the shootings happened, but harshly criticized both the protesters and the Guardsmen, concluding that "the indiscriminate firing of rifles into a crowd of students and the deaths that followed were unnecessary, unwarranted, and inexcusable."
 * On June 13, 1970, President Nixon established the President's Commission on Campus Unrest which he charged to study the dissent, disorder, and violence breaking out on college and university campuses across the nation.[10] The Commission's establishment was a consequence of the fatal violence at Kent State and Jackson State. The Commission issued its findings in a September 1970 report that concluded that the Ohio National Guard shootings on May 4, 1970 were unjustified. The report said:
 * "Even if the guardsmen faced danger, it was not a danger that called for lethal force. The 61 shots by 28 guardsmen certainly cannot be justified. Apparently, no order to fire was given, and there was inadequate fire control discipline on Blanket Hill. The Kent State tragedy must mark the last time that, as a matter of course, loaded rifles are issued to guardsmen confronting student demonstrators."
 * No matter how you may wish things to have transpired that day, the fact is that many of the Guard members, whether or not they claimed self-defense, were aiming at particular students and firing repeatedly at them, with two of the students not even having participated in the protests. Even Nixon's commission found the self-defense claim to have been spurious. Badagnani 09:45, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


 * You presume a lot, I did read it. The fact that a presidential commission that was 1,000 miles away from the scene at the time of the incident says it's so, doens't make it so. Everybody's good at armchair quarterbacking and 20/20 hindsight. Furthermore, where's the backing for your statement that the soldiers "were aiming at particular students and firing repeatedly at them"? Even the all-mighty commission never said that. Do you have a problem with soldiers and cops, Badagnani? Or maybe the Ohio National Guard? Does the fact that you're from Kent cloud your judgement on this issue? Either way, the fact remains about the commission that THEY WEREN'T THERE.
 * I'm still waiting to hear why this belongs in either the school shooting or state terrorism categories. All the incidents in the school shooting category have to do with a mentally instable shooter attacking students.
 * State terrorism is defined by wikipedia itself as controversial term, which means violence against civilians perpetrated by a national government or proxy state. Whether a particular act is described as "terrorism" may depend on whether the International community considers the action justified or necessary, or whether the described act is carried out as part of an armed conflict." Even the Wikipedia article admits that it's dependent on point of view.
 * Since the National Guard was called in response to the riots and not deliberately or proactively terrorizing any protestor or studend by any account, how does this qualify as "state terrorism?" Equinox137 10:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Three reverts
You're correct on the 3 reverts, by the way. Yours were at 08:29. 08:59, and 09:05 and I crossed the line at 4 reverts. My, mistake. . . Report me if you will. Equinox137 10:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Dewey Redman
don't know how redman died. just heard it from phil schaap on WKCR. so the info is golden. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.34.25.27 (talk • contribs)

Laruan
According to my dictionary, it's most likely to be "lā (la1)", to pull or to drag. --Charlie Huang 【正矗昊】 11:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

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Zu or zhu?
Looks like it. --Charlie Huang 【正矗昊】 18:44, 8 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Might as well add it. Also, the stories about assasination of kings is similar to the Guangling San story of Nie Zheng stabbing the King of Haan... --Charlie Huang 【正矗昊】 19:33, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Chaunk
Hello. I read the page, and found the contents are ok. However, we should add something more. I would also try to add something, including ingredients and names of spices. I could not do your work earlier promised as people from All India Radio could not tell anything when I talked with them. Perhaps they have lost the tapes, or the new generation of employees are not aware of such things. Anyay, we lose a lot of cultural heritage this way... --Bhadani 02:36, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Uranium trioxide
The chart from Levinskii, Y.V. (1974) with the Uranium oxides at temperatures and pressures shows in the left upper corner UO2.8 UO3G .This is interpreted by LINM as UO3-gas. If he would look closer! There ae several other G in the chart and all of them are seperated from the formula by a comma meaning that at this line the solide of the mention composition turns into a not defined gasphase. For example UO2;L2,G or any other number on the chart. LIMN will not get it. I don not have time or patience enough to expain to him!--Stone 08:46, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I disagree. There is plenty of reason to believe that the gas is pure as UO3(g) at and above the temperatures and pressures above the curve indicated, and a ("not defined") mixture of UO2(g) and UO3(g) at any of the ",G" lines below it.  Even if this is not the case, the fact remains that the comma is missing, and the interpretation is verifiable even if it is not the truth.  The standard for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. LossIsNotMore 01:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your continued defense against those who make personal attacks against me on Talk:Uranium trioxide.

Would you please at least put a POV at the top, or a similar template on the "Health and safety hazards" section, of the Uranium trioxide, article so that readers are directed to the discussion on talk page? I would, but you know I am forbidden from editing that article. Although I believe WP:IAR certainly applies here, it would not be worth the hassle. LossIsNotMore 01:29, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikibooks, Flute
I saw that you did work on the article western concert flute, and have a degree in music. I thought that you could help expand that book. J Hill 21:02, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Recently, on Wikibooks, I began the book on Flute method. I thought that you could help their. J Hill 11:09, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Jon B. Higgins
According to this, this and this. - Parthi 01:31, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Spamming in Classical music articles
Hi,

Regarding the anonymous insertion of rasiaks.org linkspam on numerous websites, I have requested this url to be blacklisted. Hopefully this will stop the spammer - Parthi 03:41, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

It's not a spam. I have added the relevant pages now. Hope that satisfies your curiosity. In case you didnt understand what it is about, I have been adding it only on wiki pages that relate directly to carnatic music. You can check and may please remove your proposal of blacklisting.--Kris 17:27, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Chaunk
Sorry, I don't know much about it. I even showed it to a Marathi co-worker. She didn't seem to know. However there are a number of google hists for this. You may want to post this to Wikipedia talk:Notice board for India-related topics for more input from knowledgeable people. - Parthi 04:13, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Winter soldier
Looks like the anon's edits were, to start with, a random older version of the article. Thanks for rolling back. Rich Farmbrough, 22:28 15 September 2006 (GMT).

Press for Truth
Thanks for bulldogging the arguments so appropriately in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/9/11: Press for Truth --Nemonoman 23:56, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi B. Thanks for your response. I have watched the film through. It is not a conspiracy theory film in the sense that Loose Change is: what the film shows is a willful stonewalling of investigating what exactly Washington knew about the 9/11 attacks, and when they knew it. It presents 'prima facie' evidence to suggest the need for more investigation. --Nemonoman 21:15, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Better to light a candle than curse the darkness
Thanks, I think Eleanor Roosevelt said it first, but it has always meant a lot to me. Ortolan88 18:04, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Kuzhal
The photo shown is indeed Kuzhal, Kuzhal is mainly used in Panchari melam, in Kerala, do not confuse it with Pullamkuzhal. --Rajesh -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kjrajesh (talk • contribs)

Yes you are correct its more like Nagaswaram or a large Shehnai. We can correct it. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kjrajesh (talk • contribs)

none
Hi, I notice you've several times corrected "none are" to "none is", recently with the comment 'Grammar: "none has" is correct because the word "none" is a contraction of "not one," and thus always singular. Please feel free to look this up.' I'm not sure where to look this up. I did do a bit of googling and found this:


 * 'With mass nouns, you have to use the singular. ("None of the wheat is...")  With count nouns, you can use either the singular or the plural.  ("None of the books is..." or "None of the books are...")  Usually, the plural sounds more natural, unless you're trying to emphasize the idea of "not one", or if the words that follow work better in the singular.


 * 'The fullest (prescriptive) treatment is in Eric Partridge's book Usage and Abusage (Penguin, 1970, 0-14-051024-9). In the original edition Partridge had prescribed the singular in certain cases, but a rather long-winded letter from a correspondent persuaded him to retract.'

So according to this, "none is" is always correct, but "none are" is not always wrong. Comments? Citations? -- Rsholmes 13:40, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Vietnamese music
I found an online wiki about Vietnamese music. I thought you might want to know about it. It's at http://vietmusic.pbwiki.com/ DHN 04:14, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Alphabetization/commas

 * Copied from User talk:Bastin8

Why did you "fix" the commas in the British countries but not also for Macedonia? Badagnani 11:00, 19 September 2006 (UTC)


 * For the most part, I don't edit things related to the FYROM naming dispute, whereas I do correct errors related to my own country. Bastin 11:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

edit summary
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cindy_Sheehan&diff=prev&oldid=76912915 Best. Edit summary. Ever.] -- Deville (Talk) 03:42, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Utada in Chinese
Good god! Never a fan of Canto/Mando-pop... --Charlie Huang 【正矗昊】 15:06, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Not really, I thought the lyric rewrite was off mark in many places. Some bits, you can see they were trying very hard to fit the meanings in, but failed and just wrote whatever they wanted. I could do a better job TBH... --Charlie Huang 【正矗昊】 09:42, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Cellophane noodles
This online dictionary lists the pronunciation of 丝 in Mandarin, Cantonese, Hakka, and Taiwanese, and the pronunciation in all those dialects is a high town si, so it's unlikely the "sai" in saifun means "silk". --Yuje 23:18, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Wolfberry photo background
I think the green looks better than the pink at Wolfberry, providing greater contrast. Badagnani 00:33, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm glad you do! In this case, the background color isn't chosen for aesthetic reasons, but rather is determined by policy in terms of kingdom. All plant taxoboxes have a green background, all animals are pink, etc. --NoahElhardt 01:18, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Saxophone article
Sorry, I haven't ever heard of London Saxophonic. —SaxTeacher (talk)  20:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Flavored Liquors
flavored vodkas can be created in two ways, fruit essence or sugar and fruit extract. More expensive top shelf liquor would use essence which I don't beleive adds sugar, but may add sugar too anyway. Try checking a bottle if you have one around or run into one. is the quickest link I could find that discusses the subject --Db0x12c 05:08, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

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Yunnan districts
Well, I have the 2006 version of the Xingzheng Quhua Jiance (essentially a list of all divisions, county and up) published by Ministry of Civil Affairs of the PRC. So I essentially typed it out using that as a guide.

There are also some good online sources like.

-- ran (talk) 03:44, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, they will. =) Thank you for your encouragement.... I was planning to finish this some time ago, but other commitments (or should I say distractions) came up and as a result, work on this project stalled. Mostly a lack of organization on my part. =/ But I will definitely get them done. If you need them urgently or anything just drop me a line. -- ran (talk) 03:51, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

vandal
Yeah I saw him, I am not an administrator though. He has already been reported to WP:AIAV, but I'll keep an eye on him. I give you the page in case you are in a similar case one day. We all can help! Thanks for your help fighting vandalism. -- lucasbfr talk 02:56, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Black gram
Never had the stuff, though I can imagine it would be the difference between mung beans and azuki beans. It's interesting how all these beans taste so different. Sjschen 03:37, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

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Previewing
Hi. It's nice to see people contributing to the Oboe de Caccia page, but as someone who's been here actively for a while, I have to wonder, why didn't you use the preview feature? It's a bit annoying to have to wade through 10 tiny edits like that. Not a major deal, but it'd be appreciated not only by me, but many others. Thanks. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 11:50, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Gamju
No problem, thanks for watching that... I'm stubbing out gamju right now. I have to admit, I'm not entirely certain that gamju isn't a variety of sikhye, or vice versa; it seems a bit like the difference between apple cider and hard cider. However, the only reference I have handy is Naver, which does not address the relationship between the two. Cheers, -- Visviva 03:40, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Jarai
Hi! Well, actually, I'm not sure. I just thought that if the Jarai language belongs to the Chamic languages category maybe the Jarai should also belong to the Cham category, I guess... Kinda like Spanish with Latin.23prootie 19:36, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Sheehan page
Badagnani, Thanks for your "calm" comment. Yes I did read the cite page. In fact I re-read it just now. I did not find relunctant anywhere in the cite. In fact thats why I deleted in the first place. Just to be fair, Im going to re-reread it yet again. If I cant find it for the 4th time, Im going to revert your comments as I assume your reversion was an honest mistake. Dman727 22:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)


 * BTW, I was thinking, if you do have a different cite (than the one in the paragraph) that supports Sheehans reluntance for disrupting the SOTU, please add it to the article. I suppose it may very well be there in the 60 odd plus cites, but admittedly I only read a handful including the one perported to supported her relunctance. Dman727 22:17, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for changing the cite to one that supports the point of view. While I don't believe that a "common dreams" blog is a better source than the previous NBC source, I suppose it does meet Wiki minimum standards. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dman727 (talk • contribs)

Image:Billy Pigg.jpg
I've (tentatively) changed the tag on this image from Public Domain to Fair Use, as per the note at the bottom of the web page you got it from: "Billy Pigg photos & article copyright to Leadersound Ltd 1971". I can't imagine the photo was published in the USA before 1923 as the PD tag claimed, since Billy looks a bit older than 21! Do you have any more information on the origin of the photo other than what's on the source page? I'm not even certain that fair use applies, as it doesn't seem to fit any of the criteria, but I'm no expert. --Blisco 19:41, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Master sauce -> red cooking/braising sauce
Haha, I'm no expert on Chinese sauces or soups. The page gives a good summary about are flavourings for soy braising (鹵) which is often applied to everything from meat to tofu, and is reused, sometimes for years or decades. While there are some informative gems in the article, there are a few gaping inaccuracies in it. First, I would not say that there is a Chinese "master sauce" (lu shui). To me, saying "a Chinese 'master sauce'" would indicate that most other Chinese sauces are derived from it. However, while one can use lu shui as a dipping sauce, it is certainly not case that it is a requirement for any Chinese sauces, or even Chinese cooking. I would go as far to say that lu shui is in fact more a concentrated flavoured broth than anything else.

Second, although alcohol (jiu) is often used in making lu shui broth, no attempt is made to keep the alcohol content in the liquid. The reason why the technique works well is because of (1) the slow wet heat in cooking, which tenderizes and flavours the meat/main ingredient while dissolving proteins into the broth, (2) the flavour concentrated sauce, which is fortified by the continued addition of the main ingredients, the flavourings, and various spices, finally (3) the "age" of the sauce, with it various degraded or partially degraded chemical components likely contribute to the richness and complexity of the old lu shui, more than a new lu shui that was just created.

Perhaps instead of writing a master sauce article, we should create/modify a lu shui or lu article instead? Sjschen 21:34, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

We can start here Red cooking Sjschen 16:15, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Polygonum multiflorum
Have you got any information about how to cultivate the herb? Can it be plantet in moderate climate too (I know, the plant it in Hawai) I like Burke&#39;s Peerage

Vinegar
Hi Badagnani,

I do not have any problem in general with your edits to the Vinegar article but it would be easier to review your edits if you made repeated edits to the article by using the Show Preview option instead of the Save Page option and once ALL the edits have been made then use Save Page. That way, we can see all your edits with one page load and not many.

Cheers, J'ai osé -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by J'ai osé (talk • contribs)

Image:Adolphe Sax bass.jpg
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Stamp image usage in Euryale ferox
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Chinesename
Did you have something like this in mind? User:Visviva/Test3 (see User talk:Visviva/Test3 for demo). I replaced the table row division with a carriage return. It would also be possible to make the cell borders invisible, but that tends to create browser-compatibility issues.

I should advise you that name tables for Chinese (and Japanese etc.) articles have been discussed before, and the reception was not favorable. Would recommend raising the issue at Manual of Style (China-related articles) before putting the template (which looks very nice) to widespread use. -- Visviva 13:26, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I see you already have done so. Cheers, -- Visviva 13:28, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Try it now; there were a couple of extra carriage returns hiding in the code. (Of course, removing them does make the code a little harder to follow).  -- Visviva 13:42, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, added the bar (it and the caption are conditional upon the presence of an image, since having the extra bar without an image is a bit ugly). I used regular HTML for the table defs within the conditional, since that other stuff gives me a headache; you may want to adapt the code somewhat.
 * There used to be just such a bar in Template:Koreanname, but I see it has disappeared... wonder what happened with that.  I may have removed it myself in a fit of excessive brevity.  -- Visviva 14:01, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually I see it was removed by Calcwatch back in February due to formatting issues; however, those seem to have been tied to the old HiddenStructure hack. Maybe I can put it back in now.  -- Visviva 14:07, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Ethnic groups in China‎
Ethnic groups in China‎ include the Han. You are making a technical mistake. Nres 19:51, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

This is to let you know, as we all know, that Ethnic groups in China are officially well-defined. There is no ambiguity and there is no need for a disambig page for Ethnic groups in China‎. That's your creative work. Please don't revert my edit any more. Thanks. Nres 20:01, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi there, I did discuss in the discussion section. But you didn't response. Could you tell me how to fix with your disambig page? The title of this template is Chinese ethnic groups. It should lead to a unambiguous page. Not a disambig page. Nres 20:48, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Qin festival in Beijing
Although the link doesn't seem to work, I already know what's going on in China! --Charlie Huang 【正矗昊】 12:34, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Quintanilla
I just saw your comment on the quintanilla page...the name means "small country house" -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jorobeq (talk • contribs)

Image & caption
Hi,

Added variables, , and to Koreanname:


 * defaults to 250 (you can set to "n" for default image size)...
 * is used as the alt text for the image, as well as the actual caption.
 * is the ABC in Image:ABC

The old variable is just a text field, so you can add a caption that way too; i.e.  Caption caption caption. .  However, this more systematic approach seems better.

Cheers, -- Visviva 10:54, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Chinese template
Looks great! Easier to use than you standard wikitable Sjschen 18:28, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Gaiteru
Hey, thanks for your comment! I'm actually an Asturian language speaker. ;) 81.9.132.171 22:48, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikispecies
Hi Badagnani - there's a Wikispecies link template similar to the one for linking to Commons; see e.g. Adenanthos for an example. Just copy it from there and paste it wherever you want to use it, changing the sci name to the name on the page it is being used in (I think that's what you're wanting, if not, let me know!). Species lists from wikispecies can be copied across, as they're under the same gfdl license. - MPF 09:35, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Image:Mascarpone.jpg
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 * Image:Tiramisu.jpg isn't a photo of Tiramisu, it is a photo of Mascarpone, see the image description. Do you understand that fair use images are only allowed on Wikipedia in a limited number of circumstances? There is no justification for replacing a suitable free image with one claiming 'fair use'. Look at the Mascarpone article in different languages, they either don't have a photo, or use the free one. If you don't like the free replacement I would encourage you to make your own. Edward 07:29, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

The lighted path
I wish you All The Best on the ocasion of the Indian festival of light, Diwali. I am sure that the light of hope, confidence, and all positive attributes shall always remain inside you – lighting your path and guiding you to attain higher and higher levels of excellence in all your endevours! All the best! --Bhadani 17:41, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Prevents wrapping
Most of the HTML I ever learned I did editing Wikipedia, especially during wikiantiquity when stuff like boxes were still rendered in HTML. see and do...--Jiang 23:53, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

metallic
If your playing produces a metallic klick, you are using the wrong kind of strings ;) This kind of playing craves gut-strings, see the section on strings in the article, which also covers this. Gut strings were, for instance, used by most big band players in the twenties and early thirties. Later, after the introduction of metal strings, this technique became near obsolete in main stream music.

Best regard

/HenkeB 00:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I would probably describe the sound produced by slapping gut strings as similar to a somewhat low pitched snare drum, while slapped metal strings (as heard from rockabilly band and such) sounds somewhat similar to a rimshot, in my ears. The jazz bands I've heard employing this technique "live" (as opposed to on records) have used gut strings (have you read the section "strings" yet btw?). Regarding our little dispute, I would suggest the article clearly separates between the two kinds of strings - and sounds :)

Here in sweden, there is a twelve man band (called kustbandet) which mixes New Orleans jazz with early swing music, such as Duke Ellington (they also play the occasional modern jazz composition, but then in a swing-fashion). They made great recordings in the early seventies, hade a little quality dip in the eigthies, but have recovered well and are still very active. They have toured in many countries, even in countries like India (somewhat amasing for a trad-band!) and was once elected to play at the Nobel price ceremony "ballroom dance" (after the dinner - don't know the correct term) around ten years ago.

Thanks /HenkeB 02:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

"...with either kind of string there's a sharpness (maybe somewhat like a "crack" of a snare drum rather than a "click") to the attack which is contrasting to the mellow, round depth of the bass string's plucking -- though the metal strings create a sharper attack."

Ok, that's fair enough!

As you wrote you enjoy (swedish) folk music and are also into minimalism, I can't resist recommending Jan Johansson, which made a few records in the sixties (before being killed in a car crash) where he played traditional folk songs on the piano with a light jazz touch, often accompanied by acoustic bass only (played by Georg Riedel). The most beautiful, in most peoples opinion, are Jazz på Svenska and Jazz på Ryska. I still listen to those records.

/HenkeB 04:20, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I didn't know that one, but as the convolute says "featuring Jim Hall" it sounds promising. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to play the samples right now (unrealplayer hangs for some reason). Looking at the list however, I discovered one traditional composition also played by Jan Johansson on Jazz på Svenska, called De sålde sina hemman.

Thanks for the tip, I appreciate it!

/HenkeB 05:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm certainly no expert, but I think Grieg, like Bartok for instance, was inspired also by folk music. I don't know about you, but I personally prefer Jan Johanssons way of playing folk music, but Art Farmer's beautiful lyrical tone and Jim Hall's great rythmic soloing makes me want this record for those reasons.

Good night, and again, thanks for the tip.

/HenkeB 07:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Vansina
Hi: I found an exact birth date in the LC authority file, but no place of birth. I updated the birth category. --FeanorStar7 00:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

caccia compositions
I wonder if it might be useful to add links for the 3 existing 18th century compositions (other than J.S. Bach) for oboe da caccia. They are: Fasch Concerto

http://musicforoboe.net/anwendung/detail.pl?wnr=846&where=2%20AND%20(komponist%20=%20213)%20AND%20(oboe%20LIKE%20'___Y')&pos=1&max=25&treffer=2&sid=

Graupner Ouverture http://musicforoboe.net/anwendung/detail.pl?wnr=1146&where=2%20AND%20(komponist%20=%20277)&pos=9&max=25&treffer=32&sid=

Ferrandini Sinfonia(s) 2,3,5 http://musicforoboe.net/anwendung/detail.pl?wnr=898&where=2%20AND%20(komponist%20=%20221)%20AND%20(oboe%20LIKE%20'___Y')&pos=1&max=25&treffer=1&sid=

Caccia 11:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

紅糟 or 紅棗
紅糟 is in fact red yeast rice and probably mis-translated as red jujubes, thought it may be the case that both ingredients are possible. I don't think there is much missing on that list otherwise, except the mold cultures and flavourings (salt, sugar, huang jiu, red yeast). If I see it I'll check it out. Congratulations on the purchase in anycase, Hwang ri xiang (黃日香) of Di xi (大溪) is a very famous maker of tofu products in Taiwan, highly esteemed, with more than a hundred years history. They make dixi dried tofu, which many Taiwanese veg. ond non-veg alike eat like beef jerky. Maybe you've tried it? Sjschen 12:42, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Wow, in re-read the top, it really sounds like an advertisement doesn't it... To be honest, I have never seen jujubes in pickled tofu, whether for flavour or colour. Is it wrong? That I don't know, but like I said I have never seen it before in the ingredients. Sjschen 18:38, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Good idea :) Sjschen 22:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Hold that thought... I think 紅糟 might actually be red glutinous rice! Error on my part, was not thinking rightSjschen 22:15, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Okay...I admit that I don't know. It can be a purple hulled rice (紅糟米, not glutinous), but some people also use it for referring to red yeast rice (just 紅糟). This is confusing Sjschen 22:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind...let's just say it is red yeast rice in liquid or paste form. Can always change it sometime... Sjschen 22:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Now that I think of it's probably the Taiwanese/Min way of saying it. Sjschen 22:27, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Look good! Sjschen 23:40, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I would be surprised if it was the by product of a wine making process. But then again this stuff does saccrifys and dyes the rice. Sjschen 11:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Good point. Maybe it's both grown on it's own and also taken from shaoxing wine making? Sjschen 11:59, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Blanking of my userpage
Thanks for the revert. --TheParanoidOne 23:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Jjigae
Well, we had a little dust-up over that around 10 months ago, with some averring that hanja, and particularly the absence of hanja, was largely irrelevant for many topics. That led to the creation of a farcical number of alternative name-table templates, revert wars over the removal or inclusion of hanja, and ultimately (the consensus solution) making the "hanja" field optional. (This was before ParserFunctions.)

With Appleby banned, these problems may not recur, and I guess personally I have no problem with "hanja=none." However, I think it's probably best to put such details of etymology/onomastics on Wiktionary and link the wikt: entry through the name table; that's what I've done for jjigae. Cheers, -- Visviva 03:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Not for the modern form of the word; there are no hanja that correspond to 찌 (jji). There is probably a hanja representation of the archaic spelling 치개, but that is more likely to be a hanjaization of the original native Korean word, which would appear to come from 찌다. -- Visviva 03:49, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

As a general rule, there are no hanja for syllables beginning with ㄲ, ㄸ, ㅃ, ㅆ, ㅉ, ㅋ in modern Korean. AFAIK, the only exceptions to this rule are 쌍·雙, 씨·氏, 쾌·快 (plus other obscure hanja) and 끽·喫. Wikipeditor 21:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Tương ớt tỏi
Done. DHN 03:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Badal Roy
Hi, if you believe the Badal Roy article to read like an advertisement, why not simply spell out, in a constructive manner, exactly which sections you object to on that article's "discussion" page? Badagnani 01:26, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi, the section that I think is an advertisment link was what I deleted. --BostonMA talk  01:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:Eml.wiki
Wow! So you are a good american-collaborator for eml.wiki... eml:User:Ottaviano II

Ethnic minorities in China
I've reverted all of Azakhs' edits because he's a confirmed sockpuppet of a banned user. To quote from WP:BAN:

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So, there's my explanation. Regards, Khoikhoi 05:09, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Like I just said, it doesn't matter if the user's edits are good or not, the fact is that he is banned, and is therefore prohibited from editing Wikipedia. According to Wikipedia policy, edits by his sockpuppets must be reverted to enforce this. Khoikhoi 05:14, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Neva Pilgrim
No info on birthdate or exact place; sorry. --FeanorStar7 05:54, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

The pronounciation of Ejiao
Many Chinese characters have more than one pronounciation. 阿 is one of that. The word "Ejiao" came from the "jiao" (glue) from "Dong-e" 东阿 county in Liaocheng city. (pls check the content in that article). To pronounce it "a" or "ar" is simply wrong. To say "the first syllable is 'a'" is not correct. Well, why is the county called Dong-e, not Dong-a? That's the decision of people there. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E9%98%BF is wrong (I am not planning to contribute there currently though). Another proof is that the product, "ejiao", use this name. You can check that picture.

Another example of pronounciation change in the name of place is Lu'an 六安. I believe that if you know Chinese, you should know that 六 (liu) usually means 6. But it's called "lu" here.

BTW, I am a native speaker of Mandarin Chinese. Cheers.--Mongol 04:06, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reminding of the best practice. --Mongol 18:03, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Dizi
Thanks, actually I don't know that much about dizi players, I only re-wrote the info I got from the Grove Dictionary of Music! I'm afraid I don't know about Yu Xunfa, so I can't really say whether he should be in the article or not. But I feel the article should stick to major players of historical importance with info on their significance, and not become like the erhu or guzheng articles where it's just a long list of names (the inclusion of some seems doubtful to me). LDHan 18:38, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I agree about the list of players in the erhu and guzheng articles, moving the lists to their own article would be a good idea. LDHan 13:22, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Image:C melody sax.jpg
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Backed with
See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black-and-white&oldid=29364609 Hyacinth 20:55, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

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Mandarin Slang
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Pu-erh tea
I've been doing so editing on the pu-erh tea article and I need some help with the proofreading. Care to help? Sjschen 22:22, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. Btw, that was no minor edit, good error catching. Sjschen 08:03, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I've noticed the image copyright comments. On one hand I can understand that wikipedia does not want to get stuck on issues regarding "image ownership", but to tell the truth I think sometimes it's just a bit too zealous about the cleaning process.

How did you get to know this writer person? Did he/she contact you personally? I wish they could just get a user account so that information passing can be done through the discussion page. That and the assimulation process could be made easier ;)Sjschen 08:21, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Throat singing is very cool, abeit a bit weird Sjschen 08:22, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

icic, well, I'm a bit secretive about my email addresses, but if he sets up a user page I will be willing to do a contribution. But as if it's not clear already about why I edit wikis, it mainly because I'm a research nut. bolay and bonay are now bolay tea and bonay tea Sjschen 08:28, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

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Article about Wikipedia Users
Hello,

I am a freelance writer working on an article about the wide array of people who make Wikipedia their life, their passion, their pastime. Wikipedia “addicts” if you will. I’m looking for people just willing to tell their story of how they got sucked into the intellectual whirlwind that is Wikipedia, how you got started editing, how the obsession grew, and what you spend your time focusing on these days? Do you write articles from scratch? Is your main push toward one particular type of article? Do you patrol for typos and errors, or spend your time diligently fixing vandalism? Do you take part in the “social aspects” of Wikipedia; engaging in animated discussions or decorating your user page with all sorts of internet memes? Have you forced yourself to take a “Wikipedia break”? If so, what’s your 20/20 hindsight on the obsession? Basically I’m just trying to get an idea of what it’s like for various Wikipedia “addicts.” If you are interested in participating, please email me at brianrhodges@gmail.com

If anybody else, other than this user is interested in participating, feel free to email me as well. This article is intended to be a light informational piece, nothing too heavy or controversial, just merely introducing readers to a subculture that they likely had no idea existed. So please don’t email me with your conspiracy theories, or your grudge against the Wikipedia hierarchy… unless it directly applies to your overall experience with the site. This article is about the USERS, not about the pros and cons of the site itself.

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Bush bands
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Jinghu
It's a small world isn't it? I hope he doesn't mind or knows about his pic being on wiki, and maybe the file name should be corrected. LDHan 15:04, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Invitation
Hi Badagnani,

Haven't heard from you much lately, hope things are going well. I just wanted to say thanks for all of your work on articles related to Korean cuisine, and to invite you to join us at WikiProject Korea. If you're interested, we've just been getting ready to start a working group on cuisine there; your input would be indispensable. Cheers, -- Visviva 13:52, 11 November 2006 (UTC)


 * It wouldn't really involve much. Think of it as sort of like a mini-WikiProject.  No obligation, just a place to talk about strategy, general problems (for example, the hanja thing), useful tools, priorities, etc.  Cf. WikiProject Korea/DPRK... The WG would be at WikiProject Korea/Cuisine, tho' it hasn't been created yet.  I'd do it now, but the dog is going to gnaw my leg off if I don't take him for a run.  Feel free to start it yourself if you'd like.  Cheers, -- Visviva 03:57, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

About 竹笙
Hi. It is interesting to see an Amercian want to know the difference between 荪 and 笙. Actually, 笙 is a musical instrument in ancient China while 荪 is the name of a fragrance fungus as you can find it in 说文解字 and 楚辞.

Therefore, we can see that 竹荪 is the correct selling. BTW, as you can understand some Chinese, why don't you come to the Chinese Wiki? 222.71.223.137 04:54, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

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I've reverted your revert on Guy Goma. I left my reasoning on the talk page... ---J.S (t|c) 19:38, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
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 * We cannot link to media without copyright licensing. That is why this media cannot be linked. The permission given you can't be independently verified. If a license and source was put in the YouTube description, then it would be possible to use. Dmcdevit·t 20:38, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
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thoughtful manner

 * No link was added. Please think (and actually read the edit!) before acting! I have asked for you to edit in a more thoughtful manner before; please take me up on that

Maybe YOU need to edit in a thoughtful manner and read your OWN edits. ---J.S (t|c) 20:43, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

<> Badagnani 22:06, 13 November 2006 (UTC)