User talk:Baffle gab1978/Archives/2017

Unblock request

 * Great to have you back, Baffle! Have fun and all the best, Anne  Mini  apolis  01:15, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I second that, Baffle gab1978! Welcome back! – Corinne (talk) 01:19, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Woo-hoo! – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:07, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks all. So much to do.... :) Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 23:02, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * There is ... glad you're back to help. Twofingered Typist (talk) 14:05, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Also thank you
Thanks for the copy-edit of Come My Fanatics.... It's so much better now! Andrzejbanas (talk) 00:33, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries; it was an easy article to c/e. Good luck with your planned GA nominamtion. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 01:03, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you
For the amazing work you have done on Dil Dhadakne Do. Plus, I was not aware that you had taken a break from Wikipedia. So welcome back! Krish &#124;  Talk  03:44, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Additonally, would you like to take up Bajirao Mastani, which is listed just below Dil Dhadakne Do on the GOCE page? Thanks again. Krish &#124;  Talk  15:41, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries; and thanks for the welcome. :) Yes, RL got busy and I had my account blocked for safety. I'll do Bajirao Mastani if I have the time, meanwhile good luck with your GA nominations. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 00:14, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks again, buddy. It must have been a daunting task to c/e such a long article. Great job there. Keep up the good work.  Krish  &#124;  Talk  15:15, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem; it's an interesting article and I learnt a thing about Indian history. :) Long articles are fine if they're done section-by-section, and are usually quite satisfying to finish. Take care and happy editing, good luck with your planned FA nomination. :) Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 18:25, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Hey!
Do you think you can grab Ventilator (film) for copyediting? It is listed on the GOCE request page. It's a great black comedy family drama produced by Chopra. I will appreciate your gesture. Krish &#124;  Talk  14:27, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Krish, I've started working on it; check the page history for progress. The Plot section needs more work I think, it's still quite confusing, IMO. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 06:04, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Would you like to take up Quantico (season 2) for copyediting? It is listed on GOCE page, towards the top. I will appreciate your gesture. Thanks. Krish  &#124;  Talk  07:52, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey! this is the summary of 11 to 13 episode. It was removed for being a bit long. I tried my best to trim the text but nothing. Would you look at it? Krish &#124;  Talk  19:12, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Krish!, I don't generally copy-edit removed text, though I wondered why those ep summaries were missing. Can you edit them to remove all but the main plot points? I'm happy to c/e it when I reach that point, but I'm not familiar with the series so I might remove something important. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 19:59, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Socialist Soviet Republic of Abkhazia copyedit
Thanks a lot for going through it. Really appreciate you and the rest of the people at WP:GOCE volunteering to do stuff like that. Kaiser matias (talk) 02:59, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem, it's an interesting article and makes a nice change from Bollywood films. Good luck with your planned A-class review. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 03:24, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Parinda
Hi, can you please give this article a copyedit? Its small in size and recently passed the GAN. I have listed it on the GOCE request page. Yashthepunisher (talk) 11:18, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Yashthepunisher, I don't accept direct c/e requests, but if it's listed at GOCE/REQ I may choose to c/e it at any time, unless someone else does it first. Right now I'm choosing mostly October requests. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 21:22, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay then. Thanks. Yashthepunisher (talk) 11:09, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

A Wikiloving, double Dutch, barnstar of pinging, just for you
Hello, Baffle gab1978. Thank your for your copy edits on Billy the Kid. I really appreciate it, and I know that it takes a lot of effort. Bravo. It was quite interesting – and entertaining – to see the edits by other editors that were performed during your copy edit sessions. LOL. This one in particular that was done at the conclusion of your copy editing caught my eye, and I thought you might want to review it. Having fun! Cheers! 01:17, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Checkingfax, I'm glad the c/e went quite smoothly. Yes, some of the changes made yesterday were a bit 'on the nose'—the idea that photographs were accused of crimes ("alleged, allegedly") were particularly amusing. And i made a typo or two - yah boo sucks! Of course, we have no way of knowing that the IP is Frank Abrams, so feel free to alter 'flea market' if you wish. Anyway, I enjoyed the c/e; it's an interesting article and subject and I learnt some things, and a refreshing change from Bollywood movies (not my fave subject, but hey!)... Good luck with taking the article forward. :) Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 11:00, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

GOCE coordinator?
Would you be interested in being nominated (or nominating yourself) as a GOCE coordinator? All the best,  Mini  apolis  00:23, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Miniapolis; thank you for asking me. I'll consider doing it again, but I'm not as active onwiki as I used to be and cannot commit to being here every day, particularly later in the term. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 12:46, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Billy the Kid
I have been asked to take a look at recent edits to Billy the Kid that were  on the basis of a conviction that the edits by and large did not represent an improvement and on the fact that you had recently completed a GOCE copy-edit, and offer an opinion. Before I ventured to say anything about the edits in question, I thought I'd look to see when you had completed the copy-edit. I looked on the talk page and did not see the GOCE template indicating that you had completed a copy edit. I then looked in the revision history and saw that you had completed the copy-edit around 24November, which, while not yesterday, was fairly recently. Here is the template:, which you could save to your list of tools and copy and paste to a talk page when you have completed a copy-edit. I think it is a good idea to post that template because if another editor saw that the article had recently been copy-edited by a GOCE editor, he or she might refrain from undertaking an extensive re-doing of the prose in the article, or at least might consult with the copy-editor. Might. So, unless Rosalina523 had studied the edits of the last month, she would not have known that a member of the Guild of Copy Editors had recently completed a copy-edit. Of course, even if she had known, she was free to copy-edit further.

I kind of agree with Checkingfax on a few of the changes in wording, but what complicates things is that, in addition to making quite a few changes to wording, the editor, Rosalina523, added sourced content. So, when Checkingfax undid all of Rosalina523's edits, the added content went, too. I also wondered, regarding that added content, whether too much detail was added. EEng, what is your opinion about the added content? Feel free also to comment on the changes to the prose. Rosalina523 is a long-time WP editor with an academic background, so will be taken aback by the wholesale revert. It would be unfortunate if an edit war started, or feelings were ruffled, over this. I think we ought to adopt a more intelligent approach so that no one's feelings are ruffled and we end up with the best prose. I think the question of whether or not the material added by Rosalina523 is a bit too much detail needs to be answered first. Perhaps some, but not all, of that information could be re-added, or perhaps the details could be expressed more concisely. I'm not an expert on writing articles or adding content. Then, if Rosalina523 feels strongly that her wording was better, Baffle gab1978, myself, or someone else would have to discuss the wording changes one by one. I'm willing to do that, but would like to wait until I hear from EEng about the content (and/or wording). Finally, I wrote this comment here because it was Baffle gab1978 who had completed the GOCE copy-edit, but if anyone feels this should be copied to the talk page of the article, please feel free to do that. – Corinne (talk) 01:32, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * – Hi, y'alls. I am not interested in an edit war, and will be listening intently to your takeaway. I take undoing edits very seriously. Having fun! Cheers!  02:05, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I tried to take a quick look, but it's too much for me to take on right now – I'm on deadline for a week or so. Corinne, can you ping me in maybe nine days if this is still an issue? Sorry, but that's the best I can do. EEng 02:19, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Of course, EEng. There's no hurry, and I've got other articles to copy-edit in the meantime. – Corinne (talk) 02:23, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I think that it would be helpful for this discussion to happen at the article's talk page instead of here. I took a brief glance at the copy edits done by ; some of them looked like helpful style improvements, while others (like changing "newly appointed" to "newly-appointed") were not MOS-compliant, as far as I can tell (MOS says "Avoid using a hyphen after a standard -ly adverb"). – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:46, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks all for the heads-up(s); I did the copy-edit in good faith at the request of who, as you say, added new content about a newly-authenticated photograph of Bonney at my suggestion as per a feature article on the ABC's website; a reliable source. I then copy-edited the new content once I reached it. I think my changes (check intervening edits for more details—I did more work than this link suggests) made the article more readable and whilst I'm disappointed my copy-edits were reverted, I'm unwilling to get involved in content issues or edit wars.

Templating article talk pages is optional and I choose not to do so because I feel my work should be 'invisible'. As you'll have noticed, I clearly mark my starting and finishing edits "Requested GOCE copy-edit" in my edit summaries, and intervening edits as "copy-edit", and I also clearly inform requesters when I start and finish my copy-edits. I'll be happy to comply if the community sees fit to implement compusory article talk page templating.

, thanks for your well-reasoned comments; I haven't revisited the article since ending my c/e and I cannot comment on more recent copy-edits. If the article returns to the GOCE requests page I'll be happy to revisit it providing it's stable. I agree this discussion should occur at Talk:Billy the Kid; please feel free to copy this converstation over to that page to keep context intact. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 05:53, 8 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Baffle gab1978, thank you for explaining your reason for not posting the GOCE template. Each to his own, I say. I am, though, a little puzzled by your comment above saying you were disappointed that your copy-edits were reverted. I don't see where your copy-edits were reverted. I was referring to Checkingfax's revert of Rosalina523's edits back to the version of Serols. I don't see any intervening edits by you there, and I didn't make any comment about your edits. At Jonesey95's suggestion, I will now copy this discussion to the talk page of the article. – Corinne (talk) 20:31, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Corrine; I misread your text above, sorry. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 20:48, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Meteos
Hi there. Thank you for taking up the mantle to copyedit the article. Have you see the current discussion at its FAC? GamerPro64 01:15, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries; No, I haven't seen that discussion; I don't ususally involve myself in quality reviews. I'll have a look though, just to ensure I'm not doing something silly at the article. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 01:25, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * It looks like the relevant sections are from Featured_article_candidates/Meteos/archive1 and down to the bottom of the page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:50, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jonesey; I've skimmed the review and commented there; however, I don't normally involve myself in quality assessment reviews as I value my sanity. FWIW I don't think it's up to FA standards, or even A-Class. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 16:23, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Yep, neither do I. Too much drama. I do find it helpful to see what reviewers are saying about the prose before I dive in, however, so that we are not working at cross purposes. If people are up in arms about ENGVAR, for example, it's good to know that before starting an edit. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:17, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Copy edit of My Journey into the Heart of Terror
I nominated My Journey into the Heart of Terror: Ten Days in the Islamic State for DYK, but due to the reviewer it needs copy edit. Can I ask you to doing it? Regards! Saff V. (talk) 10:35, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * , No, I don't accept direct c/e requests, as you'll read at the top of this page. I recommend listing it at the GOCE Requests page, where someone will accept it, though prepare for to wait at least a month. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 13:44, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for your work on the Leeb article. Looks great so far! K.e.coffman (talk) 01:02, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, no worries; I'll be finishing the c/e later today. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 06:46, 22 December 2017 (UTC)