User talk:Bagnz0r

March 2022
Hello Bagnz0r. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Kenja, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Bagnz0r. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Jalen Folf  (talk)  05:52, 14 March 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm not being compensated for edits. Why would I compensate myself? I'm the CTO for Kenja and I just want someone to make sure we are not being mistaken with "Kenja Communication". All this page is is company information... All I ask is that at the very least "Kenja" does not redirect to "Kenja Communication". This is not us and it's extremely damaging to our name and reputation. Bagnz0r (talk) 07:45, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * We are not a big company and we work with enterprise customers. There is no 3rd party that would be interested enough to write any wikipedia article about us, however simple. "Kenja Communication", however is a loud name in Australia and there is a lot of people motivated to write about it without regard for the fact it's damaging us - Kenja K.K. Bagnz0r (talk) 07:46, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Since I cannot edit the Kenja page without looking like a paid editor, I would humbly like to ask you to create a page for us (If possible). I'm not asking for anything detailed - just enough information to make sure people understand that Kenja K.K. is completely unrelated to Kenja Communication. Bagnz0r (talk) 07:51, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm afraid you have a fundamental misunderstanding about Wikipedia's purpose. It is not a business directory, where a company is entitled to have an article simply because it exists. All topics on Wikipedia (people, companies, things, etc.) have to meet Wikipedia's definition of a notable topic. In the case of a company, it must meet the criteria defined in Notability (organizations and companies).

In order for your company to be allowed a Wikipedia article, it must have already received significant coverage in multiple reliable and independent sources. You said yourself "There is no 3rd party that would be interested enough to write any wikipedia article about us, however simple" - which is pretty self-explanatory. If no third-party sources have written in-depth about your company, then it simply isn't notable enough for inclusion.

We have no interest in what a company's representatives wish to say about it; that is an inherent conflict of interest (COI). While COI editing is not prohibited outright, it is very difficult for someone to write about their own company from the required neutral point of view. Furthermore, trying to write about your own non-notable company is promotional - Wikipedia expressly forbids any use for promotion, publicity or advertising.

I advise that if you wish to continue contributing to Wikipedia, that you try editing topics that are outside of your conflict of interest. However, if you have no interest in writing about anything other than your own company, then you should seek out alternative outlets that allow this type of writing. Thank you. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 13:15, 14 March 2022 (UTC)


 * I see. Thank you for a detailed explanation. This does make perfect sense.
 * I'll try to contribute on other topics. Bagnz0r (talk) 01:50, 15 March 2022 (UTC)