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Was there a discussion about changing NBA roster templates
From alpha order to numerical? The Bulls is numerical but the Hawks, Celtics, Hornets are alpha order. I was going to change the Bulls back but wanted to see if I missed something. Rikster2 (talk) 15:27, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Not that I recall. I only remember making a comment about the rosters being alpha but the navs being numerical, but I dont think anyone cared.  There was some other thread about automating WNBA templates.—Bagumba (talk) 15:36, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Looked like the Bulls was just oddball so I restored alpha order Rikster2 (talk) 15:41, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Cousins, Cook, and Green *signing* confirmed by Pelinka and the NBA
https://www.nba.com/lakers/releases/190706-lakers-sign-cook-cousins-green

This is as official as it is going to get. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:641:500:11A4:AE:C83A:5A43:5484 (talk) 02:40, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. In the future, you can also use. Edit semi-protected on the respective article talk pages.  Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 03:10, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Richard Jefferson returning to the NBA?
Hello Bagumba, I've noticed the Twitter post of Richard Jefferson that he is planning to return to the NBA, as shown on his post.

But the article was changed by someone and stating that he is currently a free agent, things in the article are little bit of messed up right now. If this is correct, according to his tweet that he will be playing one more season before retiring again. Regards. VictorTorres2002 (talk) 10:32, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was sourced in the article that he is interested in playing again.—Bagumba (talk) 10:36, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * , Thanks a lot, I thought he has already officially retired after the 2017-18 season. Looks like we will see him play again soon. Thanks again. :-) VictorTorres2002 (talk) 10:40, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * You rarely really know if a player "officially" retires i.e. filed the paperwork with the league. At any rate, there's ways to get re-instated, so will just have to go off of his word.—Bagumba (talk) 10:46, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Kawhi Leonard
According to Adrian Wojnarowski, ESPN NBA insider, Kawhi Leonard signed a 4 year contract on LA Clippers worth $142M maximum contract with Paul George trade. Please read this article. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27129474/sources-clippers-land-leonard-george https://www.latimes.com/sports/clippers/la-sp-clippers-kawhi-leonard-paul-george-trade-20190705-story.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chaustria35 (talk • contribs) 11:43, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, and welcome again to Wikipedia. Both of the articles you cited are based on anonymous sources. Woj cites unnamed "league sources", while the LA Times one is based on "people not authorized to speak publicly."  See WP:SPORTSTRANS for how these transactions are usually handled on Wikipedia.  We usually want a reliable person speaking on the record, which often is when the team announces a deal. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 12:11, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Protect Thanasis Antetokounmpo?
Transaction related. Thanks Rikster2 (talk) 22:25, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. 1 wk.—Bagumba (talk) 03:27, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Marcus Morris Sr.
Can you see if the Marcus Morris Sr. Signing to the Knicks is official? Jake22923 (talk) 20:35, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * A good resource is https://www.nba.com/freeagents/2019/tracker. See if they list anyone under "New team". You can double-check with the news link that they usually provide, and see if it sounds legitimate too. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 05:33, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Isaac Lesiba Maphotho
WP:MOSNICKNAME is correct, thanks. GiantSnowman 07:52, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:MOSNICKNAME is part of Naming conventions (people), which reads This guideline contains conventions on how to name Wikipedia articles. MOS:NICKNAME, part of Manual of Style/Biography, reads Most of the examples throughout this section illustrate usage in the title sentence, but are generally applicable to personal names in any encyclopedic text ... It's MOS:NICKNAME that is applicable to prose. The one you cites is related to the page title.—Bagumba (talk) 07:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * And MOS:NICKNAME reflects that, and says that "If a nickname is used in place of the subject's entire name, it is usually given separately". GiantSnowman 08:00, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I was under the impression it was a nickname replacing his given names, and not one that replaces his entire name. For example, he's mentioned as "Bra Ike Maphoto" at africantimesnews.co.za At any rate, I'm not too knowledgeable on him, so will defer to you if "Bra Ike" is used like "Scarface".  Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 08:14, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * If the article was at 'Big Ike Maphotho' then I wouldn't have made the change - but a nickname he is given that is used in the media should not be in the opening name, hence why we don't have 'Paul "Gazza" Gascgoine' (though the nickname is mentioned later in the lede, which is fine). GiantSnowman 08:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * However for Earl Strickland, the MOS does say to use either Earl "the Pearl" Strickland; or: Earl Strickland, nicknamed "Earl the Pearl" At any rate, I'll leave it to others.—Bagumba (talk) 08:32, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Forgot to ping above.—Bagumba (talk) 08:37, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Lakers
Hello, could you please revise the 2019-2020 Lakers roster, by having the assistant coach Phil Handy, becoming Phil Handy, for me to create the page today? Thank you 16 July 2019 Riodamascus — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riodamascus (talk • contribs) 11:27, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * You should already have the proper permissions to do this on your own. If not, please let me know the message you are seeing. Regards—Bagumba (talk) 13:03, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, this is the message: This page is semi-protected so that only autoconfirmed users can edit it. If you need help getting started with editing, see the Questions page. 11:00, 9 July 2018 Bagumba (talk | contribs) protected Los Angeles Lakers [Edit=Require autoconfirmed or confirmed access] (indefinite) (Persistent vandalism: resume indef protection after temporary WP:ECP/ECP) (hist) (thank) View full log 16 July 2019 Riodamascus — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riodamascus (talk • contribs) 14:03, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Looking here, it says you are a member of the "Autoconfirmed users" group. The message you are seeing is unnecessarily confusing the matter. I receive the same message; you should be able to edit still.  On the other hand, if I log out and go to Template:Los Angeles Lakers roster, there is no "Edit" button, only "View source". Clicking on it shows: You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason ... Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 14:53, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

User block edit warring
This user keeps adding the same content over and over again to Kawhi Leonard, using the same style of edit summaries as if it is the first time. They have been reverted many times and appears to can't let go of the exact wording they added originally. Is this grounds for a block? DaHuzyBru (talk) 07:48, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd normally like to see a talk page discussion, but too many other editors have been reverting this. Blocked.—Bagumba (talk) 18:53, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
 * This user has done it again here. Another, longer block? DaHuzyBru (talk) 05:41, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Done.—Bagumba (talk) 05:56, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Travis Wear
bruh 6’10” 225 pounds is NOT a SF. I don’t understand why you won’t let me change him to PF. Whatever... it’s not like anyone checks anyways... MrSplashman77 (talk) 12:55, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
 * It’s your prerogative if you choose to ignore the common theme on your talk page.—Bagumba (talk) 13:08, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

MiLB Player Page
Hi Bagumba, I saw your name on the WikiProject Baseball page, and am in need of some help with a page that was recently rejected (Draft:Adam_Klein_(baseball)). If you'd be willing to help me, please let me know. Thank you very much in advance. Take care. --WikiWriter135 (talk) 23:26, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

American football
In most of the world football refers to association football not american football. Do not change american football players articles to football or I will report you. Thank you Jozamba (talk) 19:39, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * MOS:TIES allows for American English on American subjects.—Bagumba (talk) 19:47, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

In the world football refers to association football not american football. If you countinue your disruptive edits, I will report you more administrators.
 * WP:WABBITSEASON?—Bagumba (talk) 20:00, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
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Consensus -- Skills Challenge
I'm a bit confused on what the consensus is at this point? If we're basing it off of the 2011 discussion, then it seems there was no consensus to include the dunk contest or three point contest winners either, yet they are included in infoboxes consistently. I've had numerous movements to get minor things changed on pages over the years, yet I usually have no luck and I'm told that there is no "consensus". I'm well aware of the definition of the word, I'm more so confused about how innovations to NBA players pages, infoboxes, and leads can come about if consensus is such a mystery (at least to me). I've read consensus can change, but it is very brief and vague about how you "may propose a consensus change by discussion or editing."

Is this the best place to ask/challenge/reiterate consensus? Frequently, there are not many responses and when there are, it is usually someone pointing out the fact that consensus hasn't been met. RichieConant34 (talk) 23:00, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * At WP:NBAHIGHLIGHTS, it references a 2012 discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Basketball_Association/Archive_20. Discussions aside, there is WP:EDITCONSENSUS, in that it's generally been listed that way for years now. If you want something to change, you can be bold and change the articles directly, which you did, and I reverted. Now we are at the discussion phase of WP:BRD. Let me know if you have further questions.—Bagumba (talk) 02:19, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Google hits check?
Do you know how to get reliable numbers for a Google hit count? A user recently moved Perry Young to Perry Young (basketball) to make way to promote Draft:Perry Young (aviator). I have no issue with doing this if the aviator is in fact the most likely Perry Young to be searched by users, I’m not convinced this is the case and wonder if “Perry Young” should be a DAB page (I don’t think either is a household name). The aviator article is definitely more clearly written and sourced, and I’d but the aviator has a larger contribution to society, but that’s not really what being the primary article means - as we learned with Mark Jackson, it’s all about what subject users expect to see when they search the name. Rikster2 (talk) 20:28, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
 * When you do a search on desktop, the number of found results shows on top. Like on Google News for search of "perry young" basketball, it shows  "About 251 results (0.10 seconds)". This doesn't show on mobiles though.  Alternatively, there's https://trends.google.com/, which is the number of times people have used the search term.—Bagumba (talk) 07:04, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
 * ... what being the primary article means: Move_review just shows me that what is written is not how people !vote, and these "reviews" (WP:DRV included) are just a crap shoot on who shows up. That being said, it's not earth shattering, so I'm not going to stress out about these RMs. BTW, Mark Jackson MR is still open, if you still wanted to make a more formal !vote (i.e. boldface) there for the record.—Bagumba (talk) 07:04, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

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ITN recognition for Keith Lincoln
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User Block LilKoolAid56
LilKoolAid56 has been changing the listed team of notable NBA stars like Andre Drummond, Klay Thompson, Jaylen Brown, and Bradley Beal. I left a message on his talk page yesterday, but he has continued. RichieConant34 (talk) 17:17, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I warned them that unsourced edits could lead to a block. Let me know if that didn't stop it.—Bagumba (talk) 17:37, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

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User block
This user is a vandalism-only account. Continued to do so despite my warning. DaHuzyBru (talk) 12:42, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Blocked.—Bagumba (talk) 12:56, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Cliff Branch
Bagumba Thanks a lot for for your help and good work in improving this article. I have corrected the first statement and moved the second to the talk page. Please see if you can now support this ITN/C. Today is the last chance to promote this article since it has become stale due to more recent ones already promoted to ITNC. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  04:03, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Cliff Branch
Thanks for your helping hand with the sourcing issues. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  11:22, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I don't mean to make you defensive. I'm actually trying to help you not get into long-term issues. Perhaps you can consider tagging unsourced text, and at least give a couple of days for yourself and others to fix before commenting out/moving. Don't feel obligated to leave a response. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 11:31, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the kind words. Each article is different. The issues are not always the same. Hence my approach to resolve them are also not same for all. As I already said, I would try to be less aggressive in commenting out unsourced content. But again, I am not responsible for its addition into the article in the first place. I will still remove/comment anything that IMHO are controversial as the WP:ITN RD candidates are WP:BLP's and articles with BLP violations cannot be promoted to the main page. Since "controversial" is subjective and our perceptions clearly dont match, so it may be possible that we may disagree again in future. Although I hope we dont. cheers. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  11:40, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Roster dude is back
IP 184.164.19.214 go look at the history of the Blazers, etc. roster templates. Rikster2 (talk) 13:36, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Blocked and protected a few FWIW.—Bagumba (talk) 14:46, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

More formatting highjinx from previously banned IP
Can you check out IP 46.103.93.70 and potentially re-block Rikster2 (talk) 20:56, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Blocked 1wk.—Bagumba (talk) 05:44, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Same Guy, same articles, same vandalism on IP 2A02:587:9E16:5000:836:5309:3375:95C9. Check history on Nick Calathes. Rikster2 (talk) 20:21, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I blocked for 1wk. However, looking back at the original IP, I'm not sure if anyone ever told them exactly what they were doing wrong.  Maybe it was done on yet another earlier IP. I left a note at User talk:2A02:587:9E16:5000:836:5309:3375:95C9, giving them some pointers on MOS and offering to lift/reduce the block if they just acknowledge it.—Bagumba (talk) 04:30, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

2015–16 New York Knicks season
Hi Bagumba. I'm just informing you that I have noticed multiple disruptive edits on the 2015–16 New York Knicks season article that were made by an IP user that has vandalized other Knicks articles. From what I can tell, the IP user's edits occurred on June 24th and 25th. Thank you. – Yowashi (talk)
 * Thanks for the notice. I reverted their other edits and blocked them again. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 15:56, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Just letting you know that the same IP user has made recent edits on the 2001–02 Chicago Bulls season, and 2017–18 Minnesota Timberwolves season articles. – Yowashi (talk) 06:16, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Ok, re-blocked. In the future (hopefully not with this one again), feel free to revert the edits too. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 11:28, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

2019 FIBA Basketball World Cup team pages moves
Hi. I realize that User:Sawol moved Serbia, Italy and the Philippines articles for 2019 FIBA Basketball World Cup. I see that you moved back for the United States. Should we do the same for others? --IndexAccount (talk) 10:55, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I moved the US ones back because a plausible reason was not given, and it's inconsistent with US Olympic basketball pages at Category:United States at the Olympic Men's Basketball Tournament. As for the other ones, you can revert the bold move if you dont agree with them. Frankly, when there are other page titles like Great Britain Olympic football team, it seems natural to just have the year in front of the similar title instead of a convoluted at format.—Bagumba (talk) 11:12, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if you were informed, but there is an RM now at Talk:2019 United States FIBA Basketball World Cup team. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 16:06, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Tyrone Lue on the Clippers.
Hello, people keep adding that Tyrone Lue is on the Clippers. It's only reports nothing is official from the team website or social media pages. I will leave it alone when there is an official word. Blackhawksfan1445 (talk)
 * I went and protected the page for a few days. In the future, you can leave uw-sportstrans on people's talk pages, if you are inclined. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 04:30, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Okay thank you didn't know how to do that in the first place.Blackhawksfan1445 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:45, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Graham Farmer
I'm puzzled by your decision to close the RM as moved. The assertion that it is the common name was refuted, and high quality sources as well as those within Western Australia call him Graham first and foremost, not Polly. Noting that Polly is a nickname. The most common name may be Graham "Polly" Farmer, but I don't see a consensus in the discussion that the common name is Polly Farmer. Please could you relist or reclose as no consensus. Thanks &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 09:24, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
 * As there is no MOS:TIES-like guideline for article titles, I left it up to the participants whether the claim about Western Australian convention had any precedence, but that was a minority view. There was no argument that supporters were using non-reliable sources or that they were not of "high quality". WP:COMMONNAME does not disallow nicknames. The close was based on the arguments presented. If the arguments presented were not "right" this time, perhaps consensus can change later. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 10:47, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Lakers seasons
Hey Bagumba, I was wondering about on one of the article headers on the history page if this should be added on the 2004-2007: Rebuilding Can I add 2004-2007: Self-destruction and rebuilding? The reason of the 'Self-destruction' is because of what happened between Kobe and Shaq feud, it killed the team and made everyone split up cause of their egos etc. Sports Fan 1997 (talk) 03:32, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Seven years of adminship
 Wishing Bagumba a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman ( talk ) 13:20, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!
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DYK for Joshua Kelley
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It's ba-aaaack.....
Greetings, User:Bagumba. That large, heavily OR/insufficiently germane section on "unbreakable" attendance records, slightly enlarged, all +23,000K of it, is back at the List of Major League Baseball records considered unbreakable page...with no new citations.

So is the long, uncited, heavily OR-laden section on most games played in a season. That is actually a "performance-based" record (moreso than say games managed, won, and lost, which is in the article without challenge, and I can look the other way on, even if it is not a "player" stat). Per my recent partial re-heading/reorganization, games played in a season should - trimmed down and properly cited - be allowed to return and move under the overarching "Batting" heading, as it is a standard statistic included under "Batting Leaderboards" at baseball-reference.com and is, indeed, a traditional "player" stat scrupulously recorded for both position players and pitchers. But the "unbreakable attendance" records, well, they're the only wingnut at the article...and not something someone is going to think they'll find or immediately go looking for at an article entitled "List of Major League Baseball records considered unbreakable" any more than say "Most hot dogs sold" or "Oldest vendor".

Honestly, that content - properly cited - belongs in an article on "baseball attendance", however constructed. Ideally documenting and explaining historic levels and trends (number of teams, parks and their partial histories, "eras", and so on), and addressing the sport's current (and obviously alarming) erosion (and the various reasons for it).

You gonged that section from the "unbreakable records" article already. Per the above, it's back unimproved. Ditto the uncited "games played". Your serve? Yours, Wikiuser100 (talk) 12:25, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 * If I knew it was verifiable, I'd leave it, even without citations e.g. the "Most road losses, season – 101" section.  However, I dont know that for this re-introduced text.  The WP:ONUS is on editors to show it belongs. Was there something else you were concerned about that made you hold off?  Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 14:09, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 * No. I just held off because I thought it was worth bouncing it all off you first, including the rationale for potentially retaining the "Most games played in a season", cited and relocated under the Batting records heading. The attendance stuff, properly cited, really belongs somewhere else, per the above.
 * I figured since you'd done the gonging first you were clearly willing to defend any blowback from an obviously avid and invested poster. Me, I hate edit wars, they drive me away from the encyclopedia.  I didn't realize you were an administrator now - Congratulations - and had been since 2012, until coming to your page for this.  How times flies!  Yours, Wikiuser100 (talk) 11:45, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * You shouldn't consider a single revert of a bold edit to be an edit war, though you certainly can choose to use WP:0RR and directly discuss if you prefer. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 19:58, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * No, it’s when the revert gets reverted...then things are off and running. I don’t believe I have succeeded once that starts ever. Yours, Wikiuser100 (talk) 16:27, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Bagumba. Just a heads-up that per the above I reintroduced the section on most games played in a season - edited down somewhat, reorganized, and perfunctorily cited. Yours, Wikiuser100 (talk) 14:45, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

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Flag icons in the team roster sections of NBA Finals articles
Hello Bagumba (talk), I was wondering if you or another editor would please help me out by removing the flag icons from the team roster sections of the NBA Finals articles? I'm afraid I don't have enough time to do it myself. Charlesaaronthompson (talk) 03:21, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Nothing is WP:COMPULSORY on Wikipedia, so neither you (nor I) is obligated to finish it. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 03:32, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Protect Joe Johnson (basketball)
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Happy First Edit Day!
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2019 NBA All-Star Game
Sorry - I should have checked. It will work however without disruption if the hashtag goes outside the tag: #nbavote - I'll not add it if you'd prefer not, but the typo spellchecks will eventually pick it up again. Ingratis (talk) 15:14, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * No worries. My objection at the time was solely because of the broken display. After further thinking, however, it seems to me that spellecheckers should be the ones that just leave hashtags alone. It's not something I'll likely get involved in unless it affect readers. Use your best judgement. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 15:28, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Protect Greg Brown (basketball)
If you get a chance. Thx. Rikster2 (talk) 16:27, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, IP 70.113.46.71 could probably use a timeout. As near as I can tell it’s only been used for vandalism Rikster2 (talk) 16:37, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * IP blocked. Also gave it pending changes protection for 1 yr.  Let me know if prolems persists and a short-term semi-protect is needed also.—Bagumba (talk) 00:02, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

revert at 2011 NBA lockout
at least you didn't trout me :) ... my silly mistake, thanks for the clean up. --Goldsztajn (talk) 18:46, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Trevor Hoffman
In relation to this, it's the script doing it, not me. You should raise it with as to why it does it and how it can be removed. GiantSnowman 11:11, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Understood. But you know the drill, the editor who publishes the changes also bears responsibility, e.g. WP:AWB. Moving on ...  the baseball project regularly uses mlby to link year ranges of tenures in the infobox of bios. Likewise, nbay is used in basketball. You may want to bring this disconnect up with the respective WikiProjects (or perhaps wider venue).  Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 12:02, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, absolutely - I'm just saying that until you notified me I had no idea that those edits were not OK. I trusted in the script. GiantSnowman 13:01, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
 * It's a linking template that I once considered to be used for gratuituous linking of dates, which explains why the script removes it. I take it that the problem no longer exists, and I have now disabled those regexes. Regards, --  Ohc  ¡digame! 19:39, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Proxy sockpuppetting on the Daryl Morey page
Hi Bagumba I am the user who worked with you on Daryl Morey page when his tweets on Hong Kong blew up. Can you take a look at the contributions by this IP user with the Daryl Morey contributions by this now blocked proxy user? Lots of strong signs that they are the same person/people (the way they write, the sources they use, etc), i would say block the 121 user but but of course it's your call as you are the admin. I would also ask if you could upgrade the level of protection on that page given the proxy editing on the page (just as I had expected which i made clear to you on the morey talk page) but again it's your call. Not anything severe, but enough to stop IP users at least from editing on it. My feeling is that the most important part of the editing phase wrt to the situation with Morey has come to pass, but there still are the aftereffects we need to deal with (i.e. stragglers who hear the news from the grapevine and just are hell bent on skewing the section in one way or the other.) Regardless of what you do though, I think we can both agree: it's a pain that we need to keep putting an eye on this issue but it is what it is. Best case scenario is if nobody in the NBA talks about this tweet thing anymore but of course that really is out of our hands. Flaughtin (talk) 22:29, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not an expert on open proxies, so I will defer from taking action on those grounds. However, you can pursue it at WP:OP. As far as the content issue, aside from just reverting or boldly editing it, you could consider starting a talk page discussion and see if there is any consensus for the disputed points. Outside of egregious policy violations, I'll also defer on admin action on my part because I'm WP:INVOLVED. Thanks for your vigilance wrt WP:NPOV. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 23:42, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Will do and thanks for the info. Flaughtin (talk) 18:26, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Baghdadi
Hi Bagumba. Al-Baghdadi got 10 mins before the image was changed. Would you mind if we gave him a few hours before switching to this new image? &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:48, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I had saw that it had been up for about 6 hours when it was first post on October 28 . It also seems like old news.—Bagumba (talk) 09:03, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. I didn't notice it had already been up &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:06, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

2019 World Series
Okay, I get that "title" could mean any title. It just said "title" for the franchise but that could only be the World Series. But the city has won a World Series and that seems important enough for the lead. I also don't see the title anywhere so You need to show me where it is.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  18:08, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for discussing this. The 1924 title is in the end of next to last paragraph at 2019_World_Series. I just think the sources put more WP:WEIGHT on it being the Nationals first title, and not as much about DC's first WS in a while. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 18:23, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
 * It was mentioned on the news, so I thought it needed to be said.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  18:29, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

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1994-95 Seattle SuperSonics season
Hello, there is a user Wikiacontribbutor who keeps making questionable edits to the 1994-95 Seattle SuperSonics page see this.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 01:18, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * That edit on its own looks ok, but I suppose there is more history that you might be referring to? Have you asked them what they are trying to do?—Bagumba (talk) 01:30, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Possible sock puppet on 2019–20 Ottawa Senators season page
Hi Bagumba, I've become suspicious about these two IP users, 2607:FEA8 (long IP address) and 174.112.37.23 that have edited the Senators page. I feel that both IP users edits are very similar. 2607:FEA8 updates the page almost immediately after each Senators game. They edit the page in sections; they would update the info box area where the general team information is, the regular season game log, and the statistics section. Here are the IP's most recent edits, , from November 7. 174.112.37.23 has not edited since October 27, but I feel that it could be the same person connected to a different internet connection due to the similarities in their edits, ,. A few things that made think that these two IP users are connected, is that they both make multiple edits, the attendance and recap parameters in the game log are blank (although 2607:FEA8 had the attendance filled in the [2] diff, most of the time 2607:FEA8 leaves the attendance and recap parameters blank), and both IP's have edited the page instantly (sometimes a couple minutes) after a Senators' game is over. I could be very wrong about this, but the way these two IP's have edited seem quite suspicious to me. Although, the fact that 174.112.37.23 has not edited for a while hurts the chances of it being a sock puppet. But, as I said, it could likely be the same person using an internet connection different from their own home connection. Also, I apologize for bringing an ice hockey related issue to your attention. Yowashi (talk) 01:03, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * You didnt mention a registered account, so I'll assume you only believe this is the same user who always uses IPs. (Though having an account and not being logged in can sometimes be OK too, see WP:LOGOUT) If so, there's nothing inherently wrong with using multiple IPs unless you can show it's being done for deceit. Are the edits incorrect, against consensus, etc? The IPs can legitimately be different if they are editing (honestly) from different locations, or using both mobile internet and a wired connection from the same geographic location. In the case of IPv6 addresses, the ISP rotates through addresses where the first four groups of addresses are the same, like these edits from 2607:FEA8:E2DF:F428:* The user has no control over the different IPs, and the are using the same connection.—Bagumba (talk) 02:26, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, there aren't any registered users that edit that page regularly. The only user that edits that page on a regular basis is 2607:FEA8:E2DF:F428. I just assumed that it could have been a possible sock puppet due to the two IP's having such similar edits. Perhaps I may have to familiarize myself with sock puppetry a little more before I make assumptions. I just thought that editors aren't allowed using more than one account or multiple IP addresses in general. That's what I thought sock puppetry was. To answer your question about the IP's edits, there is nothing wrong with the edits that are made. Anyhow, thanks for explaining how IP's work. Yowashi (talk) 02:59, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, check out WP:SOCK if you are inclined. The key problem is when it's done ... to deceive or mislead other editors, disrupt discussions, distort consensus, avoid sanctions, evade blocks, or otherwise violate community standards and policies. Though some get bugged even when edits are productive but they believe an editor with an account is logged out—Bagumba (talk) 03:07, 10 November 2019 (UTC)