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Re: Template
Hello! I'm not too bad. Still trying to catch up on results and palmares from last year, but hopefully I'll get on to that in the coming days, weeks and months. As to the recent "improvements" regarding aesthetics on the WikiProject, they are ludicrously stupid additions. Could you imagine the uproar caused if WP:FOOTBALL introduced such a season setup for the articles. It's laughable. Even the + 0" thing. I despair at it. Do we change the previous GA and FA races to match this frankly... stupid + 0". And with that, I shall end my rant. Craig (talk)  21:14, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Re: Favour
Good to see it at FAC. I've proposed a second date if 13 July doesn't become sufficient for some reason. 5 September would mark 50 years since the world title for Mr Tom. There's a few instances of ref numbers not being lowest first, e.g. [291][292][232] in the Grand Tour general classification results timeline, but I don't see that causing too much trouble. Craig (talk)  19:02, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I genuinely remember seeing something about the order a while back, but I cannot find it now... From what I can see on that edit, AWB has moved the normal ref templates around via parsing, putting them lowest first under the same format. However, it does not seem to work with short footnotes. Unless it was AWB that spurred the "lowest first" whenever I've done references. I do think it is the semi-automated systems that do change them down the line, if they are not done manually. Craig  (talk)  22:55, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

I see Simpson has made FA. Superb work there, sir! Absolutely delighted to see it at such a level - a rare FA cycling article! Chapeau. Craig (talk)  19:37, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you Craig. It's been a grind, but I crossed the finish line. I've requested the date you suggested for TFA. BaldBoris 22:14, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Glad to see the hard work paid off in the end. Ah, so I see; hopefully, we can get that date for the article to be shown, considering it's the only option for that date at this moment in time! Any other GA/FA targets in the pipeline? Craig  (talk)  00:06, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I can't see any reason why it won't get that date. After a couple of attempts I'm going to give the 1986 Tour de France a final go. I must be in the Tour mood. BaldBoris 00:20, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Nothing like the Tour mood. Le grande fièvre every July. Ah, 1986. A fabulous choice. Watching the Slaying of the Badger documentary again has reminded me that I need to pick up the latest Hinault book authored by William Fotheringham. That and the Merckx 69 book. And a bookcase to store them all... Woe is me! Craig  (talk)  13:26, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I only just watched it last night. Yea, I think I'll have to add the Hinault one to the collection. The Merckx one is a maybe considering it's price tag. I think I need another bookcase because I now have piles of cycling books all over the place. BaldBoris 13:39, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It's a fascinating watch, considering I never got round to buying the book. I plumped for Étape when I was buying a Richard Moore book. It's currently sitting on a shelf right now, with a train stub sticking out of it as a bookmark. So progress hasn't gone well on that one! Yeah, I know what you mean. Waterstones appear to have around 20% off on it just now, saving about £7. I remember texting a friend a few months back with a picture of some of my cycling books – ended up lending her the Christophe Bassons book – and I couldn't get them all in the photo! It was pretty embarrassing really. That and umpteen motor racing books, no wonder the bookcases are full! Craig  (talk)  14:06, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

FYI, TFA requests now accepting September 5 for placement here. Craig (talk)  16:33, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the lookout Craig! I think I'll need to ask someone for some help with the blurb. BaldBoris 21:05, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Think the blurb looks perfect right now! I can't imagine any changes being made! Craig  (talk)  21:41, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

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2015 Tour de Suisse
Hi BaldBoris, thanks for your edits on the article, but why change the images emplacements and sizes? Is there some kind of policy about that? Regards. Mattsnow81  (Talk)  14:37, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
 * No worries, I want see your hard work rewarded. I'll have a closer look to see if I can help further. Yea it's MOS:IMAGES; some of the rules may have been removed/changed, but over the years I've picked up the style I believe is accepted. Also, I'd take out one of the images in the Stage 1 section to avoid bookending the prose, but I'll leave that up to you. BaldBoris 16:39, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Zwerg Nase told me he was going to review it for GA on July 1st, as there is some kind of reviewing festival it seems . Thanks for changing the publishers for the cites, I hadn't even noticed they had changed lol. I think the first stage's images can stay as they are, the guy who drew the course image for me would kill me if we removed it. I'm sure there is a few formulation mishaps, as I tend to use commas too much. This probably comes from my French origins. Anyway, do as you please, the only big work left is the final tables classification (mountains, sprints) but I have a week to take care of that, I'll do it no problem. Mattsnow81   (Talk)  16:53, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Unless you see something else that could help it get carried to GA? Mattsnow81   (Talk)  17:45, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I had an idea, go see the article again. I put Spilak's pic in the infobox, moved Dumoulin's pic from the first to the ninth stage (he is in TT outfit, so it fits) and put the stage 1 course on the right since a space was liberated. How's that? Mattsnow81   (Talk)  18:48, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
 * That works really well. Yea, that course map needed to stay. I didn't realise until recently about the publishers, so don't worry. I'm not exactly amazing with English, but I can definitely help with making the wording a bit more easier for the average reader to understand what's going on, or at least someone with minimal knowledge of bike racing. BaldBoris 20:20, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Go ahead if you want, I don't own the article  Mattsnow81   (Talk)  00:22, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for all the touch-ups :) Mattsnow81   (Talk)  11:52, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * No worries. I'm happy to help you out. Glad to see you got on ITN. I've just added 242 photos of stages 1 & 2 to Commons from Flickr. BaldBoris 15:46, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Wow! I'm speechless, I struggle to upload a single pic :) Thanks for all your help. Now I really don't know what to expect from the GA try, but I bet this'll help a lot. I give you half of whatever bragging rights we get. My fear is they'll ask me to do a startlist. That would be a pain. Wait and see, fingers crossed. Mattsnow81   (Talk)  16:26, 26 June 2015 (UTC) PS: I meant we get the same bragging rights, which is at the maximum a GA template and at the minimum, the ITN template, which they failed to deliver so far (?)  Mattsnow81   (Talk)  17:03, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I've categorized like 15-20 pics you imported with the riders' names, it's a pity they don't tell their names on flickr either. I just realized that I'm not that great at recognising riders lol Mattsnow81   (Talk)  18:21, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * My intention wasn't to get bragging rights, but to help out the project. Tell me about it, even hard when they have TT helmets covering half their faces. If you enjoy it I uploaded more from the same user: Tour de Suisse 2014, 2015 Ronde van Vlaanderen, Bayern Rundfahrt 2014 & Bayern Rundfahrt 2015. BaldBoris 19:46, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * That's the spirit, this is how I see things too. I added a section to the 2015 Tour de France, the 'statistics' section. do you think it is OK? I'll look at the pics you uploaded and try to categorize them by rider, so cool you found a flickr user willing to share his/her work. :) Mattsnow81   (Talk)  19:11, 28 June 2015 (UTC) PS: categorized what I could on the 2014 Tour de Suisse. Some great shots! Shame I recognize only a minority :(  Mattsnow81   (Talk)  19:56, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the great edit! We ended up edit conflicting, but that's OK, your edit was far better than mine. I am totally discouraged by everything asked. :( Mattsnow81   (Talk)  16:16, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Ha ha, I had a feeling that was going to happen. Oh well, I'm sure we'll get it done my man. BaldBoris 16:17, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I found a ref for the obligation to invite all UCI teams on the damn UCI site, but I can't find a ref for the 8 riders max per teams :( Mattsnow81   (Talk)  17:09, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

For GA, is it always this way? I would have trashed all this if it wasn't for your help. Mattsnow81  (Talk)  03:57, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

ITN credit
--The Rambling Man (talk) 20:26, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Sebastian Coates
Please do not remove reliable sources like you did with this edit at Sebastian Coates. Reliable sources meet Wikipedia's Verifiability policy. The more references an article has the better. Thank you. TeaLover1996 (talk)  06:11, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Title card for Wild Brazil
Hello BaldBoris, I'm Emperorofthedaleks, I noticed how you uploaded the title card of Alone in the Wild from YouTube to the article and was wondering if you could do the same for Wild Brazil, thanks--Emperorofthedaleks (talk) 19:50, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Another barnstar!
I'm no formatting czar, how do you get the GA template atop your userpage?? Mattsnow81  (Talk)  15:36, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Cheers for this and your kind words man. Template:GA user topicon is what you use to get the icon at the top. Only 7 km left in the stage! BaldBoris 15:41, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Another deception for Sagan. And what a shame for Martin! I wonder if the 2015 Tour de France article gets ITN automatically? I try to help the IP writing it, he's not a master at references, but his reports are pretty good! Mattsnow81   (Talk)  20:56, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The poor guy's a lone rider. Bad move to Saxo IMO. Martin's a nice guy and didn't deserve that, but it looked like he caused it. I take it you mean the ITN will be as the TdS was. It's by far the most well know bike race so it really should be. BaldBoris 22:14, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * No I meant if we do nothing, the TDF article is going to look like crap when on ITN. I was just giving you a heads up if you want to participate, it seems nobody but this non-talkative IP cares. Mattsnow81   (Talk)  22:24, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh right, the main article needs to be up to scratch. I'll be up for that and might help cleanup the stage pages. BaldBoris 23:39, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Can't even sniff white trash while riding anymore...] lol Mattsnow81   (Talk)  18:24, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh dear, silly boy. How on earth did he think he'd get away with it. BaldBoris 13:39, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Despite my nicest efforts, non-talkative IP didn't come back :( I wrote pretty short reports for the last two stages. If you ever want to chip in... Mattsnow81   (Talk)  20:07, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't worry they'll be more people helping. I'm trying to sort out the main article, maybe go for GA? Need to beef that lead up. I'm going to make an English version of the map and one for stage one. BaldBoris 23:34, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Why not, let's try GA :) It would be cool to insert the money prizes like there is on the French Wikipedia, but I'm total crap at formatting. I tried to copy and paste them but it didn't work. Tour de France 2015 Also, do the 2 pages describing the stages have to be GA quality as well? At least this is a huge race, even if we were to fail, a nice article will stay on forever. Mattsnow81   (Talk)  18:46, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Someone took out the rest days headers, but I think it would be a fantastic window of opportunity to cite a lot of riders talking about the race heading into the mountains. (as there is bound to be a ton of interviews tomorrow) What say you? Mattsnow81   (Talk)  03:27, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I got a citation from each of the major 5 GC contenders for the rest day :) Mattsnow81   (Talk)  18:10, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

I'll have go at the table for the prizes. The KoM probably needs one too. Lol, I took them out because I didn't see the point, but If there's enough text it'll work. I've only heard of the 'big four'. A GA nom is only for the page nomed. Is the stages correct? Looking at the ref to the official website, it doesn't. Finished the map! BaldBoris 21:10, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Err what did you take out and what ref says what is not correct? lol I don't get it Mattsnow81   (Talk)  02:42, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Which edit are you talking about? BaldBoris
 * I dunno. Better forget about this lol. Froome has beaten them all :) Mattsnow81   (Talk)  15:40, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Good job with the points table :D Mattsnow81   (Talk)  15:42, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * What could I do to help, besides writing the short reports? Mattsnow81   (Talk)  20:18, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * No idea my friend, just keep doing what you're doing. What a stage today though. It looks like the race is now all about who'll come second. BaldBoris 23:11, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * He's head and shoulder above the rest. I think Nibali will pull a "stomach problem" stunt and pull out. It's almost embarrassing lol Mattsnow81   (Talk)  02:54, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, the article looks pretty good thanks to you! I totally stopped writing the stages though (on the 2 sub-pages). Still writing a little résumé of stages on the main page though. How are ya? Sagan is making one hell of a show, I can't wait to see if there are some fireworks left in those GC contenders :) I don't have a particular favorite for GC. I like them all. You? Mattsnow81   (Talk)  22:36, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey Matt, yes it does! More improvements to come... I don't blame you for stopping with the stages. At least there's a preview for 12–21. Could mention Froome's data release on the rest day? As a Brit I'm always going to say Froome, but if he wasn't there, then Quintana. BaldBoris 21:05, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, anyway, we'll have time to describe the stages later when less busy, the TdF references are always plentiful and easy to find. Enjoy the rest of the Tour {. Mattsnow81   (Talk)  02:07, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Holy crap, what happened to the result templates in the 2015 Tour de Suisse? Were those templates modified?? I thought they were looking good. Mattsnow81  (Talk)  04:26, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The final teams classification of the TdS is fucked up as a result, do you know how to repair that? Mattsnow81   (Talk)  19:02, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I changed the tables to the visually acceptable standard wikitable style. I fixed the TdS team table as well as some others. I don't know if you've noticed that Froome's win is already on the front page. It was nominated by someone else before I had the chance and went up within an hour. Also I've nominated 2015 TdF for GA. I think it may need a further detailed going over. BaldBoris 02:48, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Froome
Hi Bald Boris, just thought I'd let you know Chris Froome has been given Pending changes protection for 2 weeks, I saw your nomination and thought i'd just keep you up to date. Thanks, XyZAn (talk) 15:38, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Cheers, I knew the vandalism would only get worse. BaldBoris 21:05, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi how do we cope with the IP re-adding the non notable red links? XyZAn (talk) 13:00, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * What you should have done, if you had an actual reason to revert the edit, was specify that reason in the edit summary. What you shouldn't have done was use infantile summaries like "reverting IP fail", "fix IP fail", and respond to warnings with comments like "Aahahaha move along pathetic IP".  Your disruptive intention could not have been more obvious.  201.220.243.39 (talk) 18:41, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Possible favor?
Hey so I've wrapped up the Merckx article and I was wondering if you could do a small favor and look over the legacy section? I personally think its the weakest section. I'm not saying you have to make any changes just suggest some things - if you catch anything - and I'll take care of it. If you don't it's cool, just seeing if anyone is up to it. Disc Wheel ( T  +  C )  23:44, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure I'll have a proper look when I get a chance. Will you take it to FA eventually? BaldBoris 00:24, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I appreciate it. As for FA, I'm considering it, but I'll be returning to school soon so that throws a wrench into things. Disc Wheel  ( T  +  C )  00:29, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 2015 Tour de France
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The article 2015 Tour de France you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:2015 Tour de France for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Zwerg Nase -- Zwerg Nase (talk) 13:01, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

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Wikibreak
Hi! I have not been around much for the last 2 weeks, and will continue to take it easy maybe until the Canadian races. Just wanted to say I'm still alive, pretty busy and appreciating the work you do :) We'll sure talk later. Long live cycling. Mattsnow81   (Talk)  19:57, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Cheers for the update dude. Hope you had a relaxing time on that hammock... BaldBoris 20:20, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Vuelta images
Thanks for renaming these. I realised after I'd uploaded them that they were bad names, but I couldn't work out how to move them. Greatly appreciated! Relentlessly (talk) 15:43, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Tom Simpson
Congrats on getting the article to FA status a while back, and marking the 50th anniversary in a few days' time by getting him to the front page - fabulous effort by all involved and credit to you for the bulk of the work! --Bcp67 (talk) 18:58, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Precious
  Cycling Tours

Thank you for quality articles on cycling and the tours' people and places, such as Tom Simpson and 2015 Tour de France, for templates and sticking with a discouraged, - quoting Khazar: "Thanks, and keep up the good work!" - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:35, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Wikinews Article about Stage 11 and ask for help
Hello, i saw you worked on the Wikipedia articles of the Vuelta a Espana and you have high experience in Wikipedia. I worked out an article about stage 11 on Wikinews. Things went wrong. Maybe some external opinion can help to find a solution. Do you know someone who could act as a mediator?--Lib2know (talk) 08:38, 8 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I found the WikiProject Cycling and added there another notice hoping for help: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cycling. The reason is articles get stale fast on Wikinews. So i don't want to search too much for help neither too less.--Lib2know (talk) 13:15, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Track cycling
Undermined by road cycling, track cycling is a great discipline by its own, so I think is just to separate the road and track palmares. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sebas1953 (talk • contribs) 23:45, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I can understand your opinion, but this the way the results are currently presented on Wikipedia's cycling arictles. This is just something you'll have accept. BaldBoris 23:49, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

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Re: 2012 Tour
Ah, the 2012 Tour... I think that was the last Tour that I actually had the patience to sit and type up a report each night. 2012 season as a whole was my last full season of writing; think I had gotten up to Romandie in 2013 and my PC packed in for several days and never got around to actually writing it up. But nowadays, what with work and everything else, I don't think I could ever get back to those levels. Yeah, I'll get around to nominating per your suggestion of the featured good topic. I don't know how many of the refs are still working mind you... Craig (talk)  21:58, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
 * You know what, that does seem to ring a bell now. I may look to reconsider those nominations now, considering the timeframe of the most recent GA nominations. Might add the rest in due course, but I'm not too sure how I will space them. Mind you, they would probably need to have those 2015-style tables added into them. A few dead ones is more than good enough for me! Ah, I meant good topic. I still had the featured topic in my head from previously. My bad! Craig  (talk)  23:53, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Both passed with very few changes needing to be made. Excellent. Craig  (talk)  16:50, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Would be good to see that at FA. Continue the theme with getting main GT race articles up to FA, like Disc Wheel has done with the Giros. Craig  (talk)  00:09, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I remember starting looking at doing the classification table for the 1988 Tour de France, utilising newspapers and trying to get as much as I could out of the videos from YouTube. Two years later, it has still remained unfinished! Whether I'll ever get around to finishing it is another matter. In regards to the 2012/2013 articles, I will probably get around to nominating at some point. Don't want to log them all at the one time though. Space it out over the coming months, I'd say. Craig  (talk)  22:18, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

List of teams and cyclists in the 2015 Tour de France
Hi BaldBoris. I just want to say thanks for your help with getting this to FL standard. Your edits improved it a lot! Relentlessly (talk) 22:51, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * No worries, I'm always happy to improve cycling-related articles. BaldBoris 18:44, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 2012 Tour de France
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Your GA nomination of 2013 Tour de France
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The article 2013 Tour de France you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:2013 Tour de France for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Zwerg Nase -- Zwerg Nase (talk) 22:01, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Careful!
Hi BB. I've just seen your big list of AWB edits, which look really good corrections. There are a couple of problems, though, with references and images. See, for example, this edit to Chris Froome or this edit to 2015 Vuelta a Andalucía. These break both the image links and the reference links, so do take care! Relentlessly (talk) 20:39, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yea just realised the Vuelta one did. Generally only a few don't get picked up, so it's worth it I think. BaldBoris 20:45, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Also be careful not to make edits like this one (there were others in the same vein). Replacing a working redirect link with a piped link is not allowed by AWB rules (rule 4) and not necessary in any case. Where your changes alter the visual result (like in your GP - Grand Prix changes) there is no problem, but invisible changes that don't fix an error should not be made. There is no need to undo these changes, it's hardly useful to undo one pointless edit with another one, but please refrain from making such edits in the future. Fram (talk) 07:24, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I would've never thought that piping those would be a problem because it's what I would've done it manually any way, but if it's a AWB rule I'll refrain from it in the future. Thanks. BaldBoris 10:57, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

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1937 Coventry Eagle n35 flying 350
Gidday, u noticed that you edited the wiki page on coventry eagles and I was wondering if you had any more info on the n35 flying 350? I have one in my garage in bits that I inherited from my grandad and am really keen to start the restoration. Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.0.50.24 (talk) 23:36, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry dude I'm a bicycle guy and have only added the navbox at the bottom of the page. Good luck with the bike. BaldBoris 23:53, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

2015 La Madrid Challenge by La Vuelta
I don't disagree with your revert; but I think there needs to be some connection between the 2015 Vuelta a España article and the women's race. While they were seperate races, it was clearly part of the same spectacle, and if someone wanted to get to the women's race article but didn't know the title of it, the men's race would be the likeliest place to look. Maybe a single sentence in the "Route and stages" mentioning that it occurred before the final stage? (Pinging given the FA nom; don't want to disrupt anything.) Harrias talk 09:13, 29 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I should have put it with in a see also section as I did with the 2015 Tour but forgot. Good job on the article. BaldBoris 09:18, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Duh, yes, the see also section is the obvious solution. Sometimes I can't see the wood for the trees! Harrias talk 09:22, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I've put it into the "route and stages" section as well – I think it's definitely relevant. Relentlessly (talk) 16:29, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

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