User talk:BalearicSunrise

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Just for the record...
A couple of things carried over from your previous account:


 * The Balcombe Street Gang article, as well as other articles relating to The Troubles, Irish Nationalism and British Nationalism in relation to Ireland, is under a 1-revert-restriction, meaning no more than 1 revert in a 24 hour period.

Hello, BalearicSunrise. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Irish Republican Media, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


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-- Happy editing, Cabayi (talk) 06:14, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Reliable sources
CreateSpace is a self-publisher with no editorial process. As such it doesn't meet Wikipedia's requirements of a reliable source. If you can find a better source to support your changes please use it. Cabayi (talk) 06:32, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, so should I just leave the Publisher box blank? The book is reliable it' only the second edition who has that publisher, the first edition is published by The Haworth Press, https://www.amazon.com/Road-Balcombe-Street-Monographic-Negotiations/dp/0789029138 (talk) 07:43, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * That certainly muddies the water. Haworth Press is a more credible publisher & citing the 1st edition would be preferable.
 * The point now appears moot as has reverted the change for WP:BLP issues. You should discuss the point before making a third attempt to add the material. Cabayi (talk) 08:48, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * while CreateSpace has self-publishing issues as you note, that's where the second edition of the book was published. The first edition was published on Routledge, who are are a respected publisher. So I'm not entirely sure what the situation would be in that case? FDW777 (talk) 09:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * , I wish these were areas I were regularly active in. Reading between the lines of the Amazon page, it was originally published by Haworth Press which was acquired by Taylor & Francis for its Routledge imprint. If, as it appears to me, Routledge culled the catalog it acquired from Haworth, then it seems that the self-publishing (and renumbering to 2nd edition) was more of a means to ensure that the book remained available rather than true vanity publishing. That assumes there aren't huge differences between the two editions - which seems a reasonable assumption as the authors wouoldn't wish to trash the repute of the 1st edition.
 * Some means of citing the 2nd edition (which is the copy in the hands of BalearicSunrise) while tipping a nod to the more reliable 1st edition might square the circle and give the book a better pedigree. Something like


 * Better still, if the contents match, since the 1st edition's subtitle indicates it's a reprint from the Journal of Police Crisis Negotiations, go back to the original paper


 * Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 10:26, 13 August 2021 (UTC)


 * T&F journals are available through WP:TWL m:The Wikipedia Library, https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/?tags=culture_tag - Cabayi (talk) 10:40, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * also WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request Cabayi (talk) 10:42, 13 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Well, here's a sample on Google Books from the 1st edition, and I can confirm that this is a word for word repeat of the 2nd edition. This is the part I was using to  on the 2nd edition, the sentence beginning with "Two members of the ASU paid a visit to the Caterham Arms...." is on page 180 of the 2nd ed. https://books.google.ie/books?id=7V61DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT142&dq=the+road+to+balcombe+street+caterham&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjC49Wyxa7yAhVaQEEAHXumCPIQ6AEwAHoECAcQAg#v=onepage&q=the%20road%20to%20balcombe%20street%20caterham&f=false

And again if you go to the 5th of 6 results (the index of the first edition) you can see the Caterham Arms is on page 91 & 92 https://books.google.ie/books?id=7V61DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT142&dq=the+road+to+balcombe+street+caterham&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjC49Wyxa7yAhVaQEEAHXumCPIQ6AEwAHoECAcQAg#v=snippet&q=caterham&f=false (talk) 19:01, 13 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I am not going to repeat arguments that have been had with one sockpuppet, and another sockpuppet, just because you've created yet another sockpuppet. As I've explained, repeatedly, it's a BLP violation no matter what Steven Moysey says. It is unclear why you appear incapable of grasping this rather simple fact. FDW777 (talk) 21:18, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * What the hell is your problem ? I had to make a new account because of my username not meeting Wiki guidelines. Go look back at the top of the page, ^ I was not the one who suggested this = "

" I was replying to Cabayi anyway. If you want you want your articles to be full of missing dates that don't make any sense that's your business, fair enough, I won't touch them, but bite my neck off for making helpful suggestions, I just want to contribute factual reliable information to the site. (talk) 23:39, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Blocked as a sockpuppet
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts&#32;as a sockpuppet of User:Tdv123&#32;per the evidence presented at Sockpuppet investigations/Tdv123. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. GeneralNotability (talk) 12:37, 21 September 2021 (UTC)