User talk:Banedon

Thanks for you principled stand
The P. Papers item should never have been posted at ITN, it is pure synthesis (offshore > evil) and violates WP:BLP and a host of other policies. I didn't get involved for the mere reason that opposing SJW presumptions gets you nothing but enemies. Some of us have age and or reason to teach us that salacious headlines are not guilty verdicts.

Bravo! for your (censored) effort at a mature approach to a tabloid meme that has already disappeared from public consciousness. μηδείς (talk) 00:40, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Accepting bad papers in peer-reviewed scientific journals is scientific misconduct
Who's Afraid of Peer Review? is about publishing of false papers in peer-reviewed scientific journals. It is a misconduct. And it is in science. Please, revert --Geysirhead (talk) 16:02, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Discuss it on the article's talk page. Briefly, I would still not call it scientific misconduct. Predatory publishing is misconduct, but not in the scientific sense. Banedon (talk) 23:12, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Qunatised Inertia
You said: "Link it, if you want to change my mind. Banedon (talk) 13:12, 9 June 2021 (UTC)". Gladly, but I do not know how to find it quickly. I tried using some keywords, but no luck, and I do not have the time now to look through the hundreds of tweets. I suggest that you ask McCulloch about that directly. PS. The discussion page on QI deletion is now semi-protected, hence I cannot reply to you there. 88.145.199.104 (talk) 20:12, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

You said: "Ok, so there are four (Pickering wrote two papers) - which is still too low. I originally quoted 80%. 26/30 is more than that. The objection remains. Banedon (talk) 13:12, 9 June 2021 (UTC)"

If Pickering wrote two papers then that must be 5. Anyway there is over 25 popular science secondary sources, that alone is enough for notability. But there is also a book (scientific book published by the World Scientific publishing house) and DARPA grant among others. 88.145.199.104 (talk) 20:21, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I am not going to ask McCulloch myself. You don't have time to look through hundreds of tweets, and neither do I. And no, there are only four papers if you click on that link and count. Banedon (talk) 22:22, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * In the list of the sources that I published on the talk page there was also a peer-reviewed Tajmar's paper that is not included in that first link (as it is a new paper). Why don't you e-mail or send a tweet to McCulloch - you can see there that he replies often to tweets, so I am pretty sure that he would provide you with an answer to your questions.88.145.199.104 (talk) 23:03, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Which puts it at 26/31 which is still >80%. As for emailing or tweeting McCulloch - why don't you do it? Banedon (talk) 23:17, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Because I am already satisfied that his theory is notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Besides I do not have an account on twitter.88.145.199.104 (talk) 00:26, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * But I am not satisfied his theory is notable enough, and without more evidence you are not changing my mind. If you won't ask him, I most assuredly will not either. That's all. Banedon (talk) 01:57, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll try to look for it again when I'll find some time to do it. But why are you not satisfied that this theory is notable enough?
 * There is enough popular science secondary sources about the theory also in other contexts than Emdrive to make it notable for a separate Wikipedia article, for example: https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/emdrive-uk-scientist-claims-new-physics-explains-galaxy-rotation-theoretical-space-propulsion-1606367
 * https://www.technologyreview.com/2016/04/20/8558/the-curious-link-between-the-fly-by-anomaly-and-the-impossible-emdrive-thruster/
 * http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21729002.000-sacrificing-einstein-relativitys-keystone-has-to-go.html?full=true
 * https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2010/07/30/can-the-pioneer-anomaly-be-explained-by-inertia-modification/


 * and several radio talk shows and youtube videos about the theory.


 * There is plenty of others sources proving notability. Just over 25 popular science secondary sources is enough for notability, but there is also a book about the theory (published by the World Scientific publishing house), 30 peer-reviewed papers and DARPA grant is also very significant. Objectively the evidence unequivocally shows that this theory is notable. 88.145.199.104 (talk) 10:24, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Why am I not satisfied the theory is notable enough? In part because, as I wrote in the AfD, after fifteen years there are very few people aside from McCulloch who are working on it. Banedon (talk) 11:26, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Objective criteria for notability, as measured by primary and secondary sources are met, as per Wikipedia guidelines, that is enough for notability. Anyway, I found that table now, here you are: https://twitter.com/memcculloch/status/1396859743470329859 88.145.199.104 (talk) 13:20, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * That tweet actually indicates most groups have stopped working on it. Of the remaining groups, some cannot be verified ("Anon" and "Z.Komala"), and they also seem to be working on EM Drive instead of QI. I'm sorry but this just reinforces the redirect vote. Banedon (talk) 20:37, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * That also shows that those experiments were recent, so as I said before the theory is gaining the momentum now, which supports notability. Z.Komala can be verified, as he publishes all his results and design details (including videos and photograps) on twitter. And no, he is not doing Emdrive, neither does the anon (it says explicity in the table 'capacitor' - so that has nothing to do with emdrive). Komala's sole purpose of these experiments was to confirm this theory. His work is ongoing, as you can see on his twitter account @ZKomala. None of the experiments listed in the table are about Emdrive - they all are designed to test QI predictions and thus confirm the theory. 88.145.199.104 (talk) 22:20, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Give the full name & affiliation of Z. Komala, then, although I will say that relying on Twitter as a publishing platform is a red flag. The first four experiments in that tweet seem to be over (hence they don't have the - sign at the end), as well, and most of them didn't result in publications either. Banedon (talk) 00:51, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Zbigniew Komala. Don't know his affiliation. He appears to be doing his experiments in a private lab of some factory. Only the first and the third experiments are over. Perez-Diaz according to McCulloch will be doing something with it again. And Komala right under that McCulloch's table tweeted that he is starting again: https://twitter.com/ZKomala/status/1396869012072566787 . Perez-Diaz with McCulloch sent recently their results to publication. Tajmar and Becker and Bhatt have already published.88.145.199.104 (talk) 10:00, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * No papers published though by Komala, so can't tell how reputable his work is. If Perez-Diaz is working with McCulloch that's not a good sign either. So the result is still the same, almost nobody except McCulloch is working on the topic after 15 years. The number of people can be counted on two hands. I'm sorry but I'm sticking with redirect and I don't think I'll be changing my mind. I won't be responding anymore. Banedon (talk) 12:01, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Komala does not work for university so he has no obligation to publish papers. You can judge his work yourself. He posts all of it. McCulloch is providing only a theoretical basis for the paper, all the experimental part is done by Perez-Diaz and two of his post-docs. It is silly to redirect a theory that can predict so many things to just one subject (not even the most important one): http://physicsfromtheedge.blogspot.com/2016/04/predictions-of-mihsc.html 88.145.199.104 (talk) 14:52, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Arbitration problems
Not surprisingly, the response to your thread at WT:ARBCOM has been dismissive. This is the status quo going back many years. ArbCom is above the community and does not respond to community pressure except in extreme cases. I have tried in vain for years to get ArbCom to reform. There have been small, subtle shifts in handling of cases but overall it's the same muddy quagmire that it has always been. It's true; ArbCom is not a court of law. People are dismissive of anyone who indicates the similarity, and treat not being like a court of law as some badge of honor. It's rather the opposite.

I could go on for a while about the abuses ArbCom heaps upon the community, and the community's inability to do anything about it. I won't bore you with the details unless you have insomnia :) For my part, I will never participate in an ArbCom case if I am named party. I do not recognize ArbCom's authority over me. They are abusive, willfully dismissive of policy, and generally incapable of assisting the community. Any case they generate about someone is guaranteed to result in sanctions (and usually heavy ones). The outcome is predetermined, and nobody can defend themselves. The structure of ArbCom and its processes make defense impossible. Using ArbCom as a means of dispute resolution is an exercise in utter futility, unless your goal is to get someone kicked off the project. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:01, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't have your dim view of Arbcom, I certainly think arbitration works as a means of dispute resolution since the harsh remedies like blocking editors ends the disruption. It is not a fair process though since the outcome is mostly predetermined before the evidence is submitted. I do think Arbcom should strive to be more like a court of law, not less. Our legal systems are set up such that fairness is paramount and everyone has due process. If one cannot get that at Arbcom, then one effectively cannot get it anywhere on Wikipedia, which is not a good place to be. Banedon (talk) 02:59, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Due to serious structural and procedural problems with ArbCom, it's effectively impossible for an accused person to get fair treatment in a arbitration case. --Hammersoft (talk) 03:43, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Banedon (talk) 03:51, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Arbcom is a self-styled tribunal . Under the guise of being a dispute resolution body which one would assume would examine all sides and enact an appropriate remedy, in fact it  does neither. Arbcom members have gone on record as stating they are neither there to examine the merits of the case nor to examine the veracity of the plaintifs and their 'evidence'. Apparently  the function of Arbcom is to simply count the votes in favour of opening a case. It's then followed by a long drawn out token process of so-called 'workshopping' to state their  'findings of fact' which in fact are merely a log of the claims of those clambering for sanctions. If one were to to label an Arbcom case as a show trial, it would not be wholly inaccurate. As per : The structure of ArbCom and its processes make defense impossible.. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:53, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Can we have an essay scrutinizing pain-points of the Arbcom functioning in one single WP:ESSAY? Like, User:Hammersoft/essays/Why arbcom is a mess? I would certainly appreciate such efforts and dedicate some time to read it... AXO NOV  (talk) ⚑ 14:54, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't be opposed to doing it, but it would be a very large amount of work. I have documented some of the abuses in my own personal documents off the project, but it is not properly organized. I use the material as reference points occasionally, such as the study I did across several years of ArbCom cases showing the dramatic, negative impact having a case named after a particular party is to that party. Maybe I'll get to this someday, but no promises. --Hammersoft (talk) 01:50, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
 * for obvious reasons since March 2020, I'm loath to do anything to help Wikipedia - except perhaps writing an article I feel is missing, or commenting on discussions about reform of Wikipedia governance. That's why I'm so vocal about things like Arbcom where far too often the issues are not treated as fairly and professionally as they should be. Like Hammersoft, I have amassed loads of material on my computers about Arbcom over the years and I would be happy to collaborate with him (off-Wiki) to realise such a project. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:58, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

I not stupid revert
Im sorry, but I have revert this article because I do not see any violation of the WP:MOSFILM film plot, as to be honest and is actual. I also do not see any error or grammar errors on the edit. Please do not revert the article, instead go voice it on the talk page and discuss first before making your move to revert the article. Thank you. 122.11.214.202 (talk) 11:02, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * This new plot is the one, but you can amend it with a fix of grammar mistakes. 122.11.214.202 (talk) 14:14, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

AN
You were sort of mentioned at AN - left a rather vague complaint about an issue that needed no resolution, apparently, at Talk:MDPI.  Acroterion   (talk)   01:12, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

ACE 2021
Hi Banedon. Thank you for your courage to run in this year's ACE. This kind of scrutiny can sometimes be as challenging as an RfA - if not worse. Some candidates ran on a platform for changes in Arbcom. Now comes the cliff-hanger of waiting for the results. I' 52% of the votes were cast on day 1 of the ballot. You might find this analysis of the campaign to be of interest. You are welcome to leave your thoughts on its talk page. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:14, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks Kudpung. It's not so much of a cliffhanger for me actually, since I'm pretty confident I won't be elected - in fact I'd be surprised if I get more than 50% support. I don't mind not being elected, but chances are Arbcom will continue to be troubling =/ Banedon (talk) 08:36, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Adminship consideration
Hey again. I wonder whether you like being nominated or self-nom for adminship. You can request it at Request an RfA nomination, or do an optional poll. --George Ho (talk) 07:02, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty ambivalent. If I become an admin then OK, but I don't need the tools and doubt I'd pass an RfA anyway. Banedon (talk) 03:13, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
 * You did get 300-odd supports in the ACE.. granted, also a lot of opposes, but RfA is supposed to be a lower bar than ACE, right? casualdejekyll  14:12, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

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status of the 20 first moves
Based on what I remember of the engine evals, it's something like
 * e4, d4, Nf3, c4, g3 +/=
 * a3, b3, c3, Nc3, d3, e3, h3 =
 * a4, Na3, b4, f3, f4, h4, Nh3 =/+
 * g4 -/+

IIRC. I remember it basically by: the first tier clearly stake a claim in the centre from the start (e4, d4, Nf3, c4) or at least make it so that you cannot be stopped from doing so later (g3 can easily become a Catalan or English). The second tier is either "playing your fourth/tenth move early" (which can't be good because your opponent can make them less useful now that you've committed to them, but can't be too bad either since they're usually useful moves), or just can't really fit into anything too forceful (b3 is a bit slow and doesn't really stop e5 well which this sort of setup demands; and Nc3 can be forced into either a Vienna or Veresov, neither of which really pack a punch). The third tier actively creates weaknesses or actively wastes time with moves that can be made to look really silly, or at the very best transpose into playing a not-too-great Black opening (after 1.f3 d5, maybe I'd play 2.f4 and have a Dutch).

But of course, OR. (I did always have a soft spot for 1.b3, but casual experience suggests that 1...e5 is the annoying issue with it. I guess this is why Nimzovich played 1.Nf3 d5 2.b3 instead.) :) Double sharp (talk) 23:56, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I think some kind of ranking for the opening moves is certainly what we want to have, but we must remember that objectively, every position is either winning, drawn, or losing. At some point in the future computers could very well display 0.00 after every opening move, which doesn't prove that 1. g4 is "as good as" 1. e4 for human play. But anyway for this particular content question I think we should amend WP:CHESSENGINE, and will be starting something in WT:Chess for it. Banedon (talk) 07:18, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, I suppose in the far future engines will show 0.00 for all the opening moves (or maybe all except 1.g4 – I personally agree with Kaufman that it might be lost, not that my opinion is worth much). I think Kaufman's quote in First-move advantage in chess rather explains well what I mean by "+/=" here: Black can get the draw with perfect play, but needs to be more careful than White. For humans, who cannot expect to play the engine-perfect move every time, that means something in addition to the objective evaluation. In pawnless chess endgame we already note something similar when it comes to the Q vs R endgame; sure it's theoretically won, but finding how to win is not so easy for humans. Double sharp (talk) 09:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Considering the recent Tata Steel tournament, I guess I have to edit my statement from 2022 to read Nc3 can be forced into either a Vienna, Veresov, or Jobava London. :) Double sharp (talk) 08:29, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

FWIW, it seems likely that 1.g4 is losing. I expect the other opening moves are drawn, although 1.f3 is quite bad. Double sharp (talk) 09:49, 10 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Indeed, there's circumstantial evidence that 1.g4 is the only losing move of White's 20 options. Still circumstantial though, no opening expert has come out to say that explicitly yet (at least, to the best of my knowledge). Banedon (talk) 07:23, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I was honestly more surprised at first that 1.f3 isn't lost, since after 1...e5 that f-pawn is quite a liability! But the above link convinced me that it's probably still drawn.
 * Larry Kaufman said on TalkChess that it's likely that some Black responses to 1.e4, 1.d4, and 1.Nf3 lose on the spot (and not just obvious blunders like 1.e4 b5 or 1.e4 f5), with the Owen and Polish/St. George probably near the drawn/lost border. That might be a bit conservative: Matthew Sadler has quoted Peter Heine Nielsen as saying that the Pirc might be lost (although that doesn't prove that 1.e4 d6 is losing, since chessdb.cn suggests the best way to play after that is the Philidor, not the Pirc). Ah well. As long as my beloved Alekhine's Defence hasn't been proved lost, I'm content. :) Double sharp (talk) 09:23, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

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Alright, I'll bite
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 * Fair question. I clarified on the ARC. Banedon (talk) 00:59, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

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RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I
Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:


 * Proposal 2, initiated by, provides for the addition of a text box at Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
 * Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by and, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
 * Proposal 5, initiated by, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
 * Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
 * Proposal 7, initiated by, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
 * Proposal 9b, initiated by, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
 * Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by, , and , respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
 * Proposal 13, initiated by, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
 * Proposal 14, initiated by, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
 * Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by and, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
 * Proposal 16e, initiated by, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
 * Proposal 17, initiated by, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
 * Proposal 18, initiated by, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
 * Proposal 24, initiated by, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll.
 * Proposal 25, initiated by, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
 * Proposal 27, initiated by, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
 * Proposal 28, initiated by, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.

To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via:

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:52, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins
Hi there! Phase I of the Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:

See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Proposals 2 and 9b (phase II discussion): Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA and Require links for claims of specific policy violations
 * Proposal 3b (in trial): Make the first two days discussion-only
 * Proposal 13 (in trial): Admin elections
 * Proposal 14 (implemented): Suffrage requirements
 * Proposals 16 and 16c (phase II discussion): Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs and Community recall process based on dewiki
 * Proposal 17 (phase II discussion): Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions
 * Proposal 24 (phase II discussion): Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process
 * Proposal 25 (implemented): Require nominees to be extended confirmed

Invasion of the United States moved to draftspace
Thanks for your contributions to Invasion of the United States. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because per Articles for deletion/Invasion of the United States. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Owen&times; &#9742;  23:14, 12 July 2024 (UTC)