User talk:BangJan1999/Archives/2022/August

Draft:Electro Arc
Hi ,

Thanks for tagging Draft:Electro Arc for speedy deletion. This was originally performed, so it probably can't have been a completely wrong idea. I have restored it, though, as it does not seem to meet the rather strict WP:G11 criterion. To me, it is not exclusively promotional, and it probably does not need to be fundamentally rewritten. The most promotional part I've found is the word "privilege" in a quote, which could be resolved by removing the quote and keeping the rest of the article intact.

In most of the cases, tagging already-declined drafts for speedy deletion is unnecessary. They are often abandoned by the creator, left without edits and later end up being deleted as WP:G13. The AfC template automatically tags such pages for speedy deletion as soon as they qualify for it, so no manual action is needed.

Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:35, 21 July 2022 (UTC)


 * (same for Draft:Ali Hamza Mehboob, but that was created by a sock, so WP:G5 applied. Please try to reduce the amount of pages incorrectly tagged for "promotion-only" deletion.) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:50, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Tagging drafts for speedy deletion
Hello, BangJan1999,

Please do not tag draft articles for speedy deletion immediately after they have been created if they are blank. There are different standards for Draft space and it's okay that articles are blank the day after they have been created. Drafts are usually created by new editors and we give them time to learn how to write articles and all of Wikipedia's many, many guidelines and policies. If a draft is still completely blank after 3 or 4 months, maybe it's time them to tag it as a test edit but not on the day it was created. Think about the new editor whose first edit was to create a draft to then get a message that it's going to be deleted. It's very discouraging.

Try to help new editors by posting a Welcome message on their User Talk page and also an invitation to the Teahouse, we constantly need new editors here because every day experienced editors retire or get busy with their off-line lives. The learning curve is steep to working on Wikipedia so try to encourage new editors, not delete their first edits. In general, bad drafts are tolerated as long as they aren't copyright violations, BLP-violations, blatant advertising, hoaxes or personal attacks. But blank pages? They are not an urgent problem you should be spending time on as they pose no danger to our readers. It's much more important to remove inappropriate content from the main space.

Thank you for all of your contributions to the project, I know you tagged these pages in good faith! Liz Read! Talk! 23:56, 10 August 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm moving on to some drafts you tagged as advertising and I'm finding them to be accurately tagged. Because I go through expiring drafts every day, I probably see between 20-50 autobiographical articles for non-notable people every day, mostly very young people. I try to tag their user page with the appropriate tag through Twinkle. Just go to Warn>Single-issue notices>Creating autobiographies for an appropriate message. Most of the time, these are kids who think of Wikipedia like it is a social media platform where they need to have a personal profile like they'd make for Facebook. They may not even know what an encyclopedia is, much less what is appropriate so these messages can be helpful. Liz Read! Talk! 00:28, 11 August 2022 (UTC)