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Your submission at Articles for creation: MR Tushar (October 5)
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🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:17, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: MR Tushar (October 6)
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331dot (talk) 10:14, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

October 2022
Hello Bangladeshbatelion. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Bangladeshbatelion. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. 331dot (talk) 10:50, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

As previously advised, your edits give the impression you have a financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. You were asked to cease editing until you responded by either stating that you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits, or by complying with the mandatory requirements under the Wikimedia Terms of Use that you disclose your employer, client and affiliation. Again, you can post such a disclosure on your user page at User:Bangladeshbatelion, and the template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. Please respond before making any other edits to Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 13:10, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

In which case that makes you a meat puppet as it would seem that you aren't the first person your client has asked to edit for them. Your client needs to cease his efforts to promote himself on Wikipedia as it's getting people blocked. 331dot (talk) 13:56, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @331dot, Is not paid editing allowed on wikipedia? The rules say yes. And I was about to disclose after you explained on my talk page. But after a few moments I got blocked. How do I get unblocked? Thanks. Bangladeshbatelion (talk) 14:00, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * You have made an unblock request, which another administrator will review. Paid editing is permitted if disclosed, but you are not blocked for undisclosed paid editing, you are blocked for being a sock puppet or meat puppet. It's doubtful that you will be unblocked to edit about your client or other clients. As I said, you should inform your client that his efforts to promote himself on Wikipedia are getting people like you blocked, and he should cease those efforts and allow an article about him to be developed organically, through an independent person wholly unconnected with him taking note of his career in independent reliable sources and choosing to write about him on their own. Trying to force the issue by paying someone to do it isn't often successful. He should also be aware that there are good reasons to not want an article about himself. Please show him this message. 331dot (talk) 14:05, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @331dot, I've shown him the message. And the thing is, he didn't hire anyone in the first place. It was the editor who organically created the page, and then contacted him via Facebook. And he asked for honorarium. And then he got blocked for some internal reasons, hence my client's page got deleted. Now, my client is definitely notable, as there was a deletion discussion held previously, the result was "keep", as the subject is well enough notable. Now, despite meeting the notability or being worthy of an article, my client is not getting one due to one user's internal conflicts.
 * Is there a place in Wikipedia where I can request an article to be created? As you stated, "through an independent person wholly unconnected with him taking note of his career in independent reliable sources and choosing to write about him on their own."
 * Also, I'm not paid by him (rather I have a COI, we have mutual contacts, there's no financial gain involved regarding me and Avik, maybe I shouldn't refer him as my "client".)
 * Nor did he pay the sock. He was about to pay as the sock asked him for money, but before that the sock got blocked also page got deleted. Then he again created another account and created the page again, and knocked my client again via social media, and again asked for money. My client (acquintance) was, yet for another time, about to pay him as he asked for money or else stated that he'd delete the page. My acquaintance does not by himself pays/paid anyone to create page. The editor asked for money twice, and before Avik sent the money, the page got deleted. And I had a saved file, which I used in that draft.
 * Where or how do I or my acquaintance can submit the request? An independent, non-related editor to create the page? Thank you, you've been clear with me and helpful for this project. Peace. Bangladeshbatelion (talk) 14:18, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It sounds like the other editor may have been trying to scam Mr. Anwar. Most legitimate paid editors will not demand payment prior to publication or threaten the draft with deletion if they are not paid. Mr. Anwar should not give money to anyone about this. An article can be requested at Requested Articles- but it is severely backlogged with tens of thousands of requests, any request he makes may not be acted on for some time, if ever. The rest of this, I will leave to the reviewer so that someone independent looks at this. 331dot (talk) 14:34, 6 October 2022 (UTC)