User talk:BareCanvasArts

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June 2018
Hello, I'm NewEnglandYankee. I noticed that you made one or more changes to an article, Egyptian national football team, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. NewEnglandYankee (talk) 05:25, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Egyptian national football team, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. NewEnglandYankee (talk) 05:27, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Reliable Source
Hi, I edited the nickname for the Egyptian national team because that’s what we call it. There’s no reliable source for the nickname because it is a nickname that we call our team back home that is common. It’s a country wide thing, how do you cite that? BareCanvasArts (talk) 06:22, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


 * "That's what we call it" may well be true, but it's not verifiable. It's as if I told you that "everyone here calls the Boston Red Sox the 'Carmine Hose'." Would you believe me? How would you decide?


 * As to how you cite it, it's the same as with anything else. You find a reliable, independent, third-party source that says something like "The football team is widely known as the 'Nubian Pharaohs'", and you provide a reference to that source.


 * You may note that the existing text is also not cited. True, and this is arguably a weakness of the system. As a rule, though the burden of proof lies with the editor who's trying to change an existing article. You might be on more solid ground if you argued that the nickname should be left blank until a source is found. The appropriate place to make that argument--or to discuss any changes to the article--is at the article's talk page.


 * A quick Google search provides a number links that disagree with you, such as . I'm unable to assess how reliable the reporting is, but it's more verifiable than the unsupported assertion that "that's what we call it". NewEnglandYankee (talk)

Nickname
The link you cited just says “Pharaohs” though, which is shortened instead of saying “The Nubian Pharaohs.” It’s similar to how in the US they say Cavs instead of Cleveland Cavaliers or in Brazil they say Seleccao instead of the full team’s name. Even that article mentions shortened versions of names. BareCanvasArts (talk) 18:30, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


 * I can only reiterate what I said before: find some sources. Wikipedia is not an originator of content; it's an aggregator of content created elsewhere. If reliable sources say "Pharaohs", Wikipedia should say "Pharaohs". If reliable sources say "Nubian Pharaohs", Wikipedia should say "Nubian Pharaohs". If reliable sources say both, Wikipedia should say "Pharaohs or Nubian Pharaohs". If reliable sources say "Cheesemongers", Wikipedia should say "Cheesemongers". Really, you should be having this discussion on the article's talk page, where there will be more people who can help you. Remember that you should be trying to get consensus. NewEnglandYankee (talk) 21:28, 13 June 2018 (UTC)