User talk:BarelyEphemeral

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. The Arbitration Committee has restricted editors with less than 500 edits and 30 days tenure from editing in the Arab-Israeli conflict topic area. You can read about this here. Your recent edits fall under that decision. Please edit in other topics on Wikipedia to gain an understanding of our content policies until you reach the requirements for editing in the Arab-Israeli topic area. Thank you,  nableezy  - 03:14, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the Welcome. I did see the restriction on the pages related to the Arab-Israeli conflict and for that reason didn't edit the page's content. I thought that a simple request for a 'citation needed' would be acceptable as this would then allow others with the requisite number of page edits under their belt to make the proposed changes. Is that something that Wikipedia can handle if done responsibly?  BarelyEphemeral  - 08:43, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
 * No, sorry, its a bit wider than that. Technically no edits related to the conflict anywhere on Wikipedia, though there has been some latitude in enforcing this on talk pages. The requests for citations at Borders of Israel falls under that, but so do edits like this and this. That may strike you as unreasonably wide, but the topic area is defined broadly, and edits related to the topic fall under the restriction. The idea is that editing in other topic areas can both reduce disruption in the Arab-Israeli conflict topic area and help new editors gain some experience with Wikipedia's content policies before they participate in one of the more heated areas of the website. I didnt remove your requests for citations, but somebody might, and in that case you shouldnt restore them. Same for the other edits on British groups and there views and actions related to Zionism. You can try asking on the talk page for people to add the citations but that technically is also disallowed, though whether that technicality becomes a reality depends on who comes across it. If you want the safest course of action it would be to leave the topic area completely alone until you reach 500 edits in other topic areas and read the content policies here, specifically WP:V, WP:NOR, and WP:NPOV. There are other things to look at, but thats a decent start. Thanks,   nableezy  - 16:46, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks again for the reply. I'd definitely appreciate your input on the articles involving 'British groups and their views and actions related to Zionism', specifically on what I am beginning to see as a concerted effort by a known few individuals who are (arguably but quite clearly!) of a 'pro-Zionist/pro-Israeli hard-line political persuasion' - they are doing their utmost to remove ANY trace of the word itself or reference to Zionism on these British organisations wiki articles which is bazaar as these organisations state their endorsement of Zionism on their organisations home page. These include organisations such as: Jewish Leadership Council, Britain Israel Communications and Research Centre, The Jewish Chronicle and United Synagogue. Would you be able to help me understand their justification for editing in this manner and if it is allowed? All of the sources and citations they are removing are independently verifiable scholarly sources - that should be fine, right? BarelyEphemeral  - 17:10, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * It does not really matter, the point here was that you may not edit in this topic area until you reach 500 edits. Regardless of how wrong you think others are. Finally, when signing your posts you dont have to copy my signature, just at the end of the comment type four tildes, as in ~  nableezy  - 19:46, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

I understand about the pages that are restricted to 500 posts - all clear. What I was asking though was about those pages that are not restricted and are articles about small but important organisations that are vocally and publicly Zionist in their politics and action: if they state their desire to be Zionist on their homepage why are wikieditors removing this reference with excuses such as 'This is a pro-Israel political organization. We can take it as read that it's Zionist.'? Surely that isn't allowed on Wikipedia - can you take a look? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_Synagogue&action=history And got it, four tilde, thanks :) BarelyEphemeral (talk) 19:57, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * To be honest I dont really care enough to look through that. I was just here to let you know that your edits fall under the restriction. And my advice to you is to edit in other topic areas that are completely removed from the Israeli-Palestine conflict topic and gain some experience there. Then feel free to return to this topic.  nableezy  - 22:05, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Blocked as a sockpuppet

 * . BarelyEphemeral is ✅ to .--Bbb23 (talk) 18:53, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Just wanted to be clear here, I have no idea who this person is or why they thought I was an admin. I didn't even see the ping until today.Gingervlad (talk) 06:47, 5 January 2017 (UTC)