User talk:Bargerma

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Hello, Bargerma, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as North Carolina&, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may soon be deleted.

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Speedy deletion nomination of North Carolina's Eastern Region


A tag has been placed on North Carolina's Eastern Region requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Juggalo1010 (talk) 23:34, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Status and Advice
As reviewing administrator, I deleted the page, not primarily for notability or promotionalism, but because it was a copyright violation, with the text taken from their website. A Wikipedia article needs to be written like an encyclopedia article, not a press release--don't praise the organization or person, say what they do. Don't talk about the overall importance of the subject--talk about what they have accomplished. Remember not to copy from a web site, even your own -- first it's a copyright violation, but, even if you own the copyright and are willing to give us permission according to WP:DCM, the tone will not be encyclopedic and the material will not be suitable. As it was not.

The page has to describe the actual organization, and say what it has done. Don't describe the general region, or promote it. The organization apparently exists to promote the region, but our article must be about the organization. Include only material that would be of interest to a general reader coming across the mention of the subject and wanting the sort of information about the organization that would be found in an encyclopedia. Do not include material that would be of interest only to those associated with the subject--that sort of content is considered promotional.

Additionally, a Wikipedia article needs to show notability with references providing substantial coverage of the organization itself from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. I am not at all sure that you will be able to find such references, and if you cannot, do not recreate the page. Perhaps you mean instead to write a page about the region. We have a page on Eastern North Carolina which you might want to add to; for a more extensive similar page see Northern California.

As a general rule, a suitable page will be best written by someone without Conflict of Interest; it's not impossible to do it properly with a conflict of interest or as a paid press agent, but it's relatively more difficult: you are automatically thinking in terms of what the subject wishes to communicate to the public, but an uninvolved person will think in terms of what the public might wish to know. And keep in mind that the goal of an encyclopedia is to say things in a concise manner, which is not the style of  press releases or  web sites, which are usually more expansive.

If you think you can do it right according to our guidelines, do so, but expect the article to be carefully checked for objectivity.  DGG ( talk ) 16:01, 2 May 2012 (UTC)