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I think I'm blocked by an admin that you blocked?
Hi!

I just added something to the talk page of Cuba/Israel relations, and followed the link to my IP account. It shows some edits that I didn't make, and the claim that I am blocked by a user called Lourdes. I went to their page to try to ask why this IP was blocked, and what that means, but it said that you blocked them. What on earth is going on? 1.136.104.255 (talk) 05:20, 18 November 2023 (UTC)


 * It was revealed that the admin who blocked you was not who they claimed to be. As such they have been blocked and are no longer an admin. This block was placed on your ISP to handle some disruption in September and October. This was recently reviewed and found to be a good block. You could avoid the block by registering an account - which you can do anonymously if you wish. Barkeep49 (talk) 21:24, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok! I'm with Telstra. It's possibly the biggest ISP in Australia. Is that normally the source of disruption? I'll have a look at registering if I find something I'm blocked from doing. 1.136.106.151 (talk) 02:56, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * It looks like Telstra rotates IPs fairly frequently which is part of the issue so that the same person can have multiple IPs within a short time. Barkeep49 (talk) 04:06, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

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hmm (1st-time voter question)
you aren't running again?? I ask in some dismay Elinruby (talk) 13:14, 22 November 2023 (UTC)


 * (somewhat later, after some clicking) Oh. I think I see. You were elected in 2022 to a two-year term? Feel free to ignore this first-time voter question, unless I am wrong about that. Elinruby (talk) 14:24, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Elinruby yes people have two year terms and so I am on through 2024. Barkeep49 (talk) 14:52, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

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Would you be cool with answering some questions?
That section title probably seems more omnious than I intended but I'm not sure what a good alternative would be. You're not obligated to answer anything, I'm just trying to interview as many experienced editors as possible here. If you'd be willing to take a look at it, I'd appreciate your input. :) Clovermoss 🍀  (talk) 20:37, 28 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Clovermoss you just want me to answer the questions there? If so happy to do that. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:22, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Thanks! Clovermoss 🍀  (talk) 21:24, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Done, @Clovermoss. One possible section title you could use with others is "Editor experience invitation". Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:33, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

November music
Hevenu shalom aleichem is my story today. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

I added some images from Aachen. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:48, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

... and some more. My story today is about my song of defiance, - it was a great pleasure to hear it performed today! The line "Ich steh hier und singe" (I stand here and sing) is in the movement with the music pictured, which begins with "Trotz -- Trotz -- Trotz", sounding much tougher than "defiance" ;) - in this YouTube it's at 4:55. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Performers of the 4 Nov concert now pictured on my talk. - I proudly remember having sung in an oratorio premiere seven years ago OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:18, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Today I have three items on the Main page, almost too much of a good thing! Bach's amazing cantata with the unusual scale, first performed 300 years ago OTD, the nun for the prostitutes, and Schumann's wedding gift for Clara. Also first day of vacation pics uploaded. - On AN, was I clear enough? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:55, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Today is St. Martin's Day, which stands for sharing. Sharing one more day of vacation ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:44, 11 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Enjoy your last day! Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 14:58, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I wasn't clear, I'm back for over a week, but uploading is slow, one reason people keep dying whose articles need work (one of them from stub to GAN), the other the continued waste of time of certain "discussions", Feydeau to AN (was I clear enough?), Rossini with the latest weapon: that a link from a composer's bio to his list of works somehow violates policy, - I mean, how kafkaesque can one get? - But today is Sunday, mushrooms found and eaten, pics to come, just slowly. Three of those who died on the Main page this one day (just not all at the same time). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:43, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I began another day of vacation pics, with the deepest blue of the sea ;) - we celebrate the birthday of a friend who wrote quite a book about the compositions of a man who will turn 300 soon. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * What a story! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:38, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for highlighting her story. "What a story" indeed. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:36, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! - vacation pics now complete, and we sang a good concert today, User Talk:Gerda Arendt --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:43, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Today: in memoriam Jerome Kohl who said (In Freundschaft): "and I hope that they have met again in the beyond and are making joyous music together" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:46, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Comment on the latest arb brouhaha -- ?
You have, of course, written quite extensively on the whole issue -- but if you want to add anything to what's at Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/News and notes, let me know, and I can quote you. jp×g🗯️ 06:02, 1 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @JPxG thanks for the opportunity but I am focused on providing my comments at ACN so as to be transparent and not splinter the conversation. On reading the signpost article, I find it fascinating that says most editors were supportive and then only quote things critics said, with Worms quote not noting his second and more recent comment which I'd say was more equivical. But that's more media analysis than a comment. Barkeep49 (talk) 10:15, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

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That humongous yellow banner...
...at the top of the case talk page I only just noticed... no comment! Sorry for the time loss. In my defence I'm in bed with the flu so not in my best shape. &#123;{u&#124; Gtoffoletto  &#125;}  talk 18:31, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * No worries @Gtoffoletto. I was doing a lot at once otherwise I'd have moved the comment myself. Barkeep49 (talk) 18:33, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

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Antisemitism CTOP extension
I'm here because of this diff, where you majorly extended the ArbCom decision regarding antisemitism in Poland. Right now, there's an ugly discussion at ANI where several people including me have expressed a desire to extend the contentious topic status from antisemitism in Poland to either antisemitism in Poland and Lithuania or antisemitism in Eastern Europe. I asked, because I don't know, where this conversation is supposed to take place and two supporting editors have responded to admit they don't know, either. Are you able to start this or do you know where this should go? If not, do you know who would? Thank you very much in advance.  City o f  Silver  01:06, 12 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @City of Silver that thread is longer than I have time to read (let alone dig into) but you could go to WP:ARCA to request some changes to either the Eastern European contentious topic or the antisemitism in Poland (APL) contentious topic. The big difference is that APL has an additional sourcing requirement. If you go to ARCA there will be - at least from me - some effort made to examine the conduct of people involved as well. Barkeep49 (talk) 14:51, 12 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Oof, yeah, I definitely wasn't hoping to drag you into that so I'm glad you're not even tempted. So I'm clear, are you saying that to avoid dealing with what might be difficult and possibly unnecessary sourcing concerns, the next step should be to try to get either antisemitism in Lithuania or antisemitism in Eastern Europe as a separate contentious topic from APL?  City o f  Silver  20:29, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @City of Silver I'm saying that WP:ARCA is a reasonable place to go for the concerns expressed in that ANI thread. Going there would allow for a discussion about expanding the sourcing restriction beyond Poland. It would also possibly mean the Arbs would examine the conduct of the editors who were brought up at the ANI discussion. Barkeep49 (talk) 20:57, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

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Learning by teaching
Hi Barkeep49, you helped me 6 years ago, perhaps you can help again! Psansoldo is changing the first sentence of the article "Learning by teaching": "I took away the reference to Jean-Pol Martin as a having originally defined the method, as other people, as Andrew Bell and Joseph Lancaster had already worked and used a similarly defined method before, as cited in the article itself." I think it's not usefull, because I'm the main autor about Learning by teaching since 1980 and everybody quoted my work if writing about "Learning by teaching". What do you mean? Here ChatGPT about LdL: "Learning by Teaching" (or "Lernen durch Lehren" in German), as a formalized educational method, was developed by Jean-Pol Martin in the 1980s. Jean-Pol Martin is a German educator and professor who introduced this approach primarily for language teaching. His method emphasizes the role of students as active participants in the learning process, where they take on the role of teachers to instruct their peers. This approach has since gained popularity and has been adapted in various educational settings beyond language learning, due to its effectiveness in enhancing understanding, engagement, and the development of a range of skills in students." Jeanpol (talk) 16:56, 20 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi. I certainly remember you, but unfortunately I don't have a lot of time at the moment to help. Perhaps ask for a third opinion or do an edit request? Barkeep49 (talk) 21:43, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you!Jeanpol (talk) 07:03, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I have left you two messages at your Talk page in response to your comment above. Thanks.  Mathglot (talk) 08:53, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

A solstice greeting
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Hi Barkeep! I'd like to wish you a splendid solstice season as we wrap up the year. Here is an artwork, made individually for you, to celebrate. It was great to meet you in Toronto and to hear your insights on the panels! Take care, and thanks for all you do to make Wikipedia better!Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb }&#125;  talk

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 * Great prompt engineering there. Thanks @Sdkb. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:06, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

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RFA
If you are unaware that the candidate has has at least two prior usernames, you should reconsider your sponsorship. Banks Irk (talk) 03:31, 26 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Banks Irk I'm well aware. I've just never heard of a renamed account being called an undisclosed username before at RfA. I've only heard it used in the sense of Clean_start which does not apply here. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:34, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Bizarre complaint. It matters not a jot how many times someone has renamed their account if all their contributions are still visible under the same account. Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:40, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

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December music
Today's story is about Maria Callas, on her centenary. - Aaron Copland died OTD, and Jerome Kohl (mentioned in November) said something wise on his talk, - yes, regarding a soft(ening) stance towards infoboxes. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:11, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Today's story is about parts of my life. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:07, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * How so? Barkeep49 (talk) 19:08, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * How much outing should I do ;) - I have an infobox on my user page (of my user, not of me), - it says "singen singen" a few times, with links to groups I sang with, and GD conducted two of those, and commissioned a Missa solemnis from CM, and we sang the premiere with the composer attending, and another performance at the Frankfurt Cathedral, and would have loved to also perform it in the UK once but the composer didn't live to hear it there. "singen singen" means "sing sing" as you will have guessed, and is taken from the Schütz Christmas Story (where it's repeated almost as often as in my box), and we'll sing it for Christmas as I just learned in rehearsal. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:30, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Today, I managed to get the pics to snow (on 28 Nov), and heard a lovely concert, after listening to a miracle of meditative dreaming on 6 December (or just click on music). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * ... and today, to Paris (29 Nov) with a visit to the Palais Garnier, - to match the story of Medea Amiranashvili, - don't miss listening to her expressive voice. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:43, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * My story today is about Michael Robinson, - it's an honor to have known him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:42, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Pics up to 3 December, with my shadow in one of them, and a story about Beethoven in memory of his birth. When the arb who wrote the infoboxes case - in 2015! - I hoped these infobox wars were over, really. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:41, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Today, I have a special story to tell, of the works of a musician born 300 years ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I uploaded more pics, with Christmas trees and related artworks, and I have two women on the Main page (for a sad reason). Our Christmas singing (of my user's infobox music "singen, singen") was pictured! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:48, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Lithuania
I am pretty confused about the request for modification. I assume that since I am not seeing an announcement it is plain-vanilla RS I should be enforcing still? I am limiting myself to likely EE-acceptable sources in what I am adding, though. Is that about right? Elinruby (talk) 15:16, 29 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Right now there has been no change to the rules. So normal EE rules still apply. Barkeep49 (talk) 17:57, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'll look those up. So far I'm working off a somewhat strict verifiability. Just had a doubt.
 * Lithuanian archivists disagreeing with IPN is shaping up as an issue, but I should probably say that at the request. Thanks for the answer Elinruby (talk) 00:01, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I will make the above comment at the request but I have spent some happy time reading Arbcom decisions, and am still a little confused. Both Eastern Europe and Eastern Europe and the Balkans seem to both be about behaviour not sourcing, which is why we are doing this I guess? If possible, can you confirm that articles about pogroms in Lithuania fall under contentious topics whether or not the talk page says so? There are no particular restrictions on sourcing however? Just against edit warring and canvassing etc? Since I am the only person editing these articles right now (so far anyway) I want to be certain that I don't seem to be taking advantage of that to impose a PoV, not that I have one about Lithuania. If you wpuld prefer I put this in the request also, just let me know and I will do that. Thanks Elinruby (talk) 04:57, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Barkeep49!
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Recent RFA
I read through the RFA for Tails Wx with some initial puzzlement. I think I've resolved it in my mind but I'd be interested in your reaction. (I understand the awkward timing and I'm not looking for an immediate response.) I'll start by noting I don't recall any interactions with the nominee. The first oppose came from user:Banks Irk. I read optional question number 15, which started my puzzlement. Banks made an assertion about prior usernames, you responded, in essence saying that the assertion was false and banks doubled down. While I don't know you personally I know you by reputation, and my default assumption was that you must be right, and while I don't know banks and had no default assumption, I thought the assertion made was obviously true. That left me puzzled.

I think the light went on, and embarrassingly revealed that I may have been working under a misunderstanding for years. Wikipedia has long held that multiple accounts are not per se a violation of policy, but there are limitations on how they can be used, and there is an expectation that anyone standing for RFA will reveal the existence of all accounts. My misunderstanding is that I may have conflated usernames and accounts in my head. I think Banks was emphasizing that Tails Wx has edited under other usernames and that wasn't disclosed. I think your response effectively was there's nothing to see here as there are no other accounts. If one is interested in reviewing any of the candidate edits in the candidate has edited for more than one account you need to know the names of both accounts, but if they've edited under multiple usernames but those usernames are simply a renaming of their username, searching the current username will reveal all edits including those made when using a different username.

Is it possible that Banks did not catch this distinction? Could it be that Banks thinks the requirement to disclose all prior accounts also includes all prior usernames? If so, it might explain why you and Banks appear to be disagreeing about facts, but it is simply a semantics issue. S Philbrick (Talk)  22:25, 29 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Sphilbrick on the talk page Banks said he understood this distinction as I too wondered if that's all this was. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:23, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Seems clear, which leaves me puzzled, but maybe a mystery which will never be solved. S Philbrick  (Talk)  12:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Reputable institution
In the context of WP:APLRS, is "reputable institution" defined somewhere? I'm seeing it applied as a synonym of "academic", while I think most editors would consider a generally reliable news organization to be both "reputable" and an "institution". What is the intent here? VQuakr (talk) 18:07, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Building off my response to a similar question the restriction doesn't just say a reputable institution. It says "an academically focused book by a reputable publisher". So most news organizations are publishing books and the ones that do are not, to my knowledge, publishing academically focused ones. Beyond that, my talk page is the wrong place - WP:ARCA is the right one - because it's not just my opinion that matters, and I think there are limits to discussing this in the abstract precisely because people are inclined to focus on a part of the phrase rather than looking at the entire phrase. Barkeep49 (talk) 18:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the reply! Those are separate clauses separated by an "and/or": When a source that is not an article in a peer-reviewed scholarly journal, an academically focused book by a reputable publisher, and/or an article published by a reputable institution is removed from an article..., so if the intent is for the "article published by" noun to also be modified by the phrase "academically focused" then the language should be tweaked or a footnote or similar added. WP:ARCA looks terribly formal and complicated to be honest so I'll probably not do that (is there really no lightweight venue for informal Q&A like this?), but we agree this discussion here is an informal conversation and not "official". What do you mean by the abstract? VQuakr (talk) 18:44, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * Hello? Heyandwhoa (talk) 21:59, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * You can find instructions about how to nominate something for deletion here. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:03, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Welp, Articles for deletion/Bu (instrument). Heyandwhoa (talk) 22:51, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

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NFL cent worthy?
It's not really about NFL, but about following P&G. Dicklyon (talk) 05:10, 13 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Dicklyon, replying during a commercial break of the Browns/Texans game so I'm not anti-NFL. But we're not talking a wide enough scope to say it has in my judgement. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:29, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It's an example of what can happen when a WikiProject makes a style that's at odds with the main MOS. Examples of other such situations are discussed in the RfC.  Maybe we should have gone meta on it, and asked is WikiProjects should be allowed to enforce a style at odds with the MOS.  Except that's been decided before, so we're dealing with this specific problem.  Maybe it's not the scope you'd want to see there, but we needed to get more people who care about P&G issues to participate, since all sports WikiProjects were invited. Dicklyon (talk) 22:38, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

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Yo! Uh...,
You mind trying to expand this page? Trajectoid. Heyandwhoa (talk) 23:35, 17 January 2024 (UTC)


 * That's not really in an area of my editing expertise. And unfortunately I don't have much time to edit content at the moment. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:42, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

City of Champaign v. Madigan
Hi! I know you're busy with other on-wiki responsibilities, and it's been a few years since you reviewed my GA nomination for City of Champaign v. Madigan. I just wanted to let you know that I've nominated it for FAC. You probably don't remember the article that well, if at all, but any feedback you have for the review would be greatly appreciated! Edge3 (talk) 04:54, 21 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Edge3 congrats on getting this to FA nomination status. Well done. I really can't promise anything but if you're at risk of delisting due to lack of input feel free to reach back out and I'll see if I can help at that time. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:04, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

i am elite
yessir ( my user is 2 days old )

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 * Yes I believe I've written that you are. Congrats and good luck with your future editing. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

contentious topics alerts
Regarding this comment: says that ...anyone may alert the editor of the contentious topic designation using the Contentious topics/alert/first template. I'm not aware of any formal restriction that only uninvolved editors can place the alert. isaacl (talk) 18:44, 29 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the correction. That was discussed and not done. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:30, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

2024
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Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

[[User talk:Gerda Arendt#2024|Happy New Year

2024]]

Same location pictured as 2019. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 2 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Happy 2024 to you as well @Gerda Arendt. Barkeep49 (talk) 21:03, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
Talking about the same time ;) - I discovered a story today per OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:29, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

The 2023 picture (above) is from the Abel Fest in Köthen, celebrating the tercentenary of Carl Friedrich Abel, a viol virtuoso, composer and concert organiser in London (together with Bach's youngest son), born on 22 December 1723 in Köthen, where the new catalogue of his works was introduced, - my story today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:28, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:33, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Today a friend's birthday, with related music and new vacation pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:36, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2024 February newsletter
The 2024 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with 135 participants. This is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2017.

Our current leader is newcomer, who has one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher) and 10 GAs and 12 DYKs mostly on New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:


 * , with one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, and two DYKs;
 * , with one FA on Doom (2016 video game), one GA on Boundary Fire (2017), and 11 reviews;
 * , with one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and two DYKs;
 * , with one FA on OneShot and one DYK;
 * , with five GAs and five DYKs on television and radio stations;
 * and, both with one FA and one DYK each.

As a reminder, competitors may submit work for the first round until 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February, and the second round starts 1 March. Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round; currently, competitors need at least 15 points to progress. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (,, and ) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:57, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

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Secret ballot
Regarding this comment: although I do think there would be more opposes coming from voters with personal agendas, I think there is another category of voters who currently go unheard from. Being critical of another editor is an unpleasant thing to do, so I think there are potential opposing editors who demur from participating in the current RfA process. I also think most editors aren't collecting diffs on everyone they encounter just in case they might have to weigh in on them someday, and they aren't so motivated to participate in an RfA to spend extensive amounts of time hunting down past diffs, so they don't contribute. I appreciate of course that relying on people's unreliable memories makes the system more vulnerable to gatekeeping and unconscious bias. Historically, I haven't been a fan of moving to a voting system, but the community is no closer to agreeing on something like my proposal for a pros-and-cons evaluation, so it might be time to consider voting, the other approach commmonly used by organizations everywhere. isaacl (talk) 00:09, 18 February 2024 (UTC)


 * I think the current system discourages opposers and so yes that is a substantial part of the reason why I think opposes would go up if we moved to secret ballot. Barkeep49 (talk) 00:19, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

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February music
My calendar story today is about Michael Herrmann celebrating his birthday. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:17, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

same kind of birthday for Josef Protschka --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:51, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

today I am happy about a singer on the Main page (at least for the first hours), after TFA the same day last year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:22, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks to Seiji Ozawa. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:39, 12 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Quite the globe trotter. Barkeep49 (talk) 03:29, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Very selectively, - images just updated. - The image, taken on a cemetery last year after the funeral of a distant but dear family member, commemorates today, with thanks for their achievements, four subjects mentioned on the Main page and Vami_IV, a friend here. Listen to music by Tchaikovsky (an article where one of the four is pictured), sung by today's subject (whose performance on stage I enjoyed two days ago). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:43, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Listen to music from Ukraine if you like, - I heard it in 2022, and the November concert (at a different church) raised a truckload of winter clothes. My story today is also from my life: I heard the singer in 3 of the 4 mentioned musical items. I sang in yesterday's. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:35, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Rinaldo (opera) was premiered on 24 February, which OTD on the Main page recognized, pictured. I gave it an infobox. What do you think about what happened then? For context: Carmen, The Bartered Bride, L'Orfeo, Nixon in China ... all by the same user who sadly died years ago. The last time an infobox opera was disputed was Robert le diable. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:23, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I won't be able to answer your infobox question at this time. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:01, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 * more music and flowers on Rossini's rare birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:12, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Your comments
It's always quite disconcerting to find out that one has been discussed somewhere without a courtesy ping to be allowed to speak for themselves, as I did today. That said, I wanted to specifically thank you for what you said, and for initiating a (gentle) rebuke on your own cognizance. I was taken aback by that accusation, then puzzled, and then incensed. It took quite a bit of restraint to respond the way I did at the time, when a fairly significant part of me was screaming stuff about hypocrisy and (especially) tone policing hypocrisy and the weaponization of AGF and so on. I greatly appreciate that you made an effort to correct that and to push back against the characterization of my observation, even as you acknowledged not agreeing with it yourself.

Not coincidentally, given your comment at the proposal and above here about secret ballots at RFA, the furor we have in reaction to Oppose votes can contribute just as much to toxicity at RFA as actual bad Opposes. Certainly the accusation leveled against me is the sort of thing that can be used to silence editors, and someone less experienced might come away from that RFA afraid to lodge an Oppose in the future, worried they might be bullied by an admin suggesting they violated AGF. Grandpallama (talk) 23:58, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 March newsletter
The first round of the 2024 WikiCup ended at 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February. Everyone with at least 30 points moved on to Round 2, the highest number of points required to advance to the second round since 2014. Due to a six-way tie for the 64th-place spot, 67 contestants have qualified for Round 2.

The following scorers in Round 1 all scored more than 300 points:


 * , who has 916 points mostly from one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher), 15 GAs, and 16 DYKs on a variety of topics including New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures, in addition to seven reviews
 * , who has 790 points from two FAs on Felix M. Warburg House and Doom (2016 video game), two GAs, one DYK, and 11 reviews
 * , who has 580 points from one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, two DYKs, and five reviews
 * , who has 420 points mostly from nine GAs and seven DYKs on television and radio stations
 * , who has 351 points from one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and three DYKs
 * , who has 345 points from one FA on OneShot, one DYK and two reviews

In this newsletter, the judges would like to pay a special tribute to, who unfortunately passed away this February. At the time of his death, he was the second-highest-scoring competitor. Outside the WikiCup, he had eight other featured articles, five A-class articles, eight other good articles, and two Four Awards. Vami also wrote an essay on completionism, a philosophy in which he deeply believed. If you can, please join us in honoring his memory by improving one of the articles on his to-do list.

Remember that any content promoted after 27 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Barkeep writes a blog
I have started a new blog. Talk page watchers might be interested in following that. The first entry: Why do arbs often need stuff explained to them clearly and multiple times despite having the evidence right in front of them. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:49, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

HJP
In your comment on the Palestine-Israel ARCA you say. It took me a minute to realise you were referring to Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland not to an editor named (or abbreviated) HJP. To avoid others (especially those not familiar with that case) getting similarly confused it would be good if you link to the case. Thryduulf (talk) 03:40, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).

Administrator changes
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Technical news
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Miscellaneous
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A request
This is the second time in as many weeks that I've seen a member of the committee speaking to an editor on the Administrators' Noticeboard with phrasing like "I think that if it weren't for this, they would be complaining about something else." I've generally found you to be a responsive and respectful editor and committee member, so I hope you'll take on board my suggestion that you (collectively) consider retiring this phrase, as it comes off (to my ears at least) as disrespectful, imperious, and lacking in empathy. I'm sure it's not your intention to talk down to others based on your position on the committee, but phrases like that can give the impression (to me, at least) that you are, intentionally or not. 28bytes (talk) 20:33, 8 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I have struck the comment. Barkeep49 (talk) 02:46, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I appreciate that. 28bytes (talk) 05:37, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

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RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I
Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:


 * Proposal 2, initiated by, provides for the addition of a text box at Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
 * Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by and, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
 * Proposal 5, initiated by, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
 * Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
 * Proposal 7, initiated by, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
 * Proposal 9b, initiated by, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
 * Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by, , and , respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
 * Proposal 13, initiated by, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
 * Proposal 14, initiated by, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
 * Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by and, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
 * Proposal 16e, initiated by, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
 * Proposal 17, initiated by, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
 * Proposal 18, initiated by, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
 * Proposal 24, initiated by, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll.
 * Proposal 25, initiated by, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
 * Proposal 27, initiated by, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
 * Proposal 28, initiated by, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.

To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via:

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 * Please remove me from this list and note that I wish to recieve no notifications or pings about this. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 11:12, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I am not sure if you mean you don't want anything to do with RFA review anymore, which would be understandable with everything else that's going on, but I was wondering what your opinion might be on whether a non-admin close of proposal 3 was inappropriate. Best, Usedtobecool ☎️ 13:15, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I have decided to step away from RfA and so have no opinion of what you're asking about because I haven't been following. Barkeep49 (talk) 14:18, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I feared as much. I think I will leave it alone too. Thank you for taking the charge in the past. Regards!<span id="Usedtobecool:1710600241782:User_talkFTTCLNBarkeep49" class="FTTCmt"> — Usedtobecool ☎️ 14:44, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

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Could you strike or delete this?
Hello Barkeep49. I was tussling with Laura over on Commons regarding a Ukraine-related Category, and noticed that he has an account here. I then saw that he didn't really have one anymore, but I did see the note you left on his talk page awhile ago.

It is kind of awful what he wrote, and you properly flagged, see this and similarly, this. Might you be able to delete both en situ, i.e. on the Cfd entries where they were written? They are entirely gratuitous, and add nothing to the discussion other than to be unpleasant in the style of Karl Marx and Martin Luther (although I forgot the title of his uh tract).

Thank you for considering my request.-- FeralOink (talk) 15:04, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @FeralOink. I believe the comments have been removed from the "live" page of those discussion and are only available in the edit history. Barkeep49 (talk) 15:07, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Wow, you're so fast! I was just doing some fixing up and you answered already! Okay, I understand what you're saying. I'm glad those comments aren't visible to anyone passing by on the live pages, as they are mean. Thank you.--FeralOink (talk) 15:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

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Need help with something
Hi, I'm sorry if I'm disrupting anything, but some of my edits are being incorrectly marked as vandalism.

I don't know why this is happening, as my edits are all in good faith.

If you could somehow check my contribs and see if I'm doing something wrong, I'd appreciate it- I don't want to get banned anytime soon. Again, sorry if I'm disrupting anything or if this is the wrong place to ask. (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) &#124; (PS: Have a good day) 13:33, 26 March 2024 (UTC)


 * @3OpenEyes can you provide some examples? Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:11, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I added a template on Poverty gap index (by a template) and it got marked as vandalism, as well as adding another template for plagiarism/very close paraphrasing on A5114 road that got marked vandalism, and added a reference on Campbellsville, Kentucky that was also marked as vandalism. There are a few more. I tried to upload screenshots but ran into issues while doing so. (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) &#124; (PS: Have a good day) 17:54, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
 * So from what I can see they're not showing as marked as vandalism. I know you can't do screenshots but where are you seeing that? Barkeep49 (talk) 22:03, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @3OpenEyes have you turned on WP:TWINKLE by any chance? Barkeep49 (talk) 22:18, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have turned it on. I see them in the interactive page history, while comparing any previous edits to my own. (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) &#124; (PS: Have a good day) 00:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @3OpenEyes So a guess of another admin who I shared this discussion with is that you're seeing the vandalism button there and it's not that your edits are marked as vandalism. Both of us independently looked at WP:ORES to see if that was it and it's not. So bottomline: good news your edits aren't being marked as vandalism and you don't need to worry about them at this time. Barkeep49 (talk) 14:33, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh, alright. Thank you so much! (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) &#124; (PS: Have a good day) 14:46, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

does the exemption for Mschwartz1 apply to the new filing you suggest?
Just wondering because I felt it didn't, but clearly I'm not sure. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 15:25, 26 March 2024 (UTC)


 * @Doug Weller the exemption was made specifically so that they could file an arb request (or a request to the community at AN/ANI) so yes this if fitting with the intent. Barkeep49 (talk) 16:08, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. My bad, I didn’t look closely enough and thought it was to take part in a current case. Looks like it might be interesting. Doug Weller  talk 18:16, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

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New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024
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Backlog update: The October drive reduced the article backlog from 11,626 to 7,609 and the redirect backlog from 16,985 to 6,431! Congratulations to, who led with over 2,300 points.

Following that, New Page Patrol organized another backlog drive for articles in January 2024. The January drive started with 13,650 articles and reduced the backlog to 7,430 articles. Congratulations to, who achieved first place with 1,340 points in this drive.

Looking at the graph, it seems like backlog drives are one of the only things keeping the backlog under control. Another backlog drive is being planned for May. Feel free to participate in the May backlog drive planning discussion.

It's worth noting that both queues are gradually increasing again and are nearing 14,034 articles and 22,540 redirects. We encourage you to keep contributing, even if it's just a single patrol per day. Your support is greatly appreciated!

2023 Awards won the 2023 cup with 17,761 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 50/day. There was one Platinum Award (10,000+ reviews), 2 Gold Awards (5000+ reviews), 6 Silver (2000+), 8 Bronze (1000+), 30 Iron (360+) and 70 more for the 100+ barnstar. led on redirect reviews by clearing 36,175 of them. For the full details, see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone for their efforts in reviewing!

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers deployed the rewritten NewPagesFeed in October, and then gave the NewPagesFeed a slight visual facelift in November. This concludes most major work to Special:NewPagesFeed, and most major work by the WMF Moderator Tools team, who wrapped up their major work on PageTriage in October. The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers will continue small work on PageTriage as time permits.

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Relation to Pythagorean triples
Metallic means are precisely represented by primitive Pythagorean triples. In a primitive Pythagorean triple, if the difference between hypotenuse and longer leg is 1, 2 or 8, such Pythagorean triple accurately represents one particular metallic mean. The cotangent of the quarter of smaller acute angle of such Pythagorean triangle equals the precise value of one particular metallic mean. Consider a primitive Pythagorean triple (a,b,c) in which a < b < c and c - b ∈ {1, 2, 8}. Such Pythagorean triangle (a,b,c) yields the precise value of a particular metallic mean $$ S_m $$ as follows : $$ S_m = cot\left({\frac\theta4}\right) $$ where θ is the smaller acute angle of the Pythagorean triangle and  $$m=2\sqrt{\frac{c+b}{c-b}} $$ For example, the primitive Pythagorean triple 20-21-29 incorporates the 5th metallic mean. Cotangent of the quarter of smaller acute angle of the 20-21-29 Pythagorean triangle yields the precise value of the 5th metallic mean. Similarly, the Pythagorean triangle 3-4-5 represents the 6th metallic mean. Likewise, the Pythagorean triple 12-35-37 gives the 12th metallic mean, the Pythagorean triple 52-165-173 yields the 13th metallic mean, and so on. Wanderer909 (talk) 12:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Outing
I saw you warn someone about outing. May I please email you about this issue? It is NOT about the question where I saw you warn them, but an entirely separate matter unrelated to that/those users. It's just that I saw you mention it and have something to ask you, please. Thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 22:03, 9 April 2024 (UTC)


 * My email open. Barkeep49 (talk) 22:08, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Just emailed you, thanks. DBaK (talk) 22:20, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Cut and Paste question
Hey there. I'm sure I've come across this before, but for the life of me I can't remember the correct procedure. DXYZ was changed into a dab page, but the editor cut and paste the article's content to DXYZ-AM. I reverted the dab conversion, but the article created by the cut and paste, what to do about that? The dab is the right move. Should I just do a dummy edit on the AM page, and give attribution?  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 09:01, 11 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @Onel5969 so good to have you around my talk page again. The good new is nothing needs to be done. DXYZ-AM was properly attributed and is back to being a redirect so no further cleanup is needed. Barkeep49 (talk) 15:13, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Cool. Thanks.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 15:50, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Excuse me. Where is the attribution in Special:History/DXYZ-AM? Special:Diff/1218330866 has clues that a copy occurred, and Special:Diff/1218392470's edit summary links to DXYZ, but attribution is not stated clearly. Flatscan (talk) 04:26, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
 * For me is enough in the context of the diff to provide attribution @Flatscan given that transferred is a close enough synonym of copied. If your concern is that it doesn't say from where and if you want to null edit or talk page message to clear that up don't let me stop you. Barkeep49 (talk) 14:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I have done so, following WP:Copying within Wikipedia (guideline, shortcut WP:RIA): dummy edit on the redirect and Copied tags on the talk pages of the source and the destination.
 * Three components were lacking:
 * That a copy occurred Savvy editors can identify the creation as a likely copy, but an inexperienced reader may not see it as clearly.
 * Link to the source DXYZ-FM was linked in the creation edit summary, but the source was actually DXYZ (cross-page diff). The redirect edit links DXYZ, but it does not mention the copy.
 * Mention of "history" and "attribution" Most of WP:CWW's suggested edit summaries include this pointer to guide readers to the correct page's history.
 * Flatscan (talk) 04:39, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 April newsletter
We are approaching the end of the 2024 WikiCup's second round, with a little over two weeks remaining. Currently, contestants must score at least 105 points to progress to the third round.

Our current top scorers are as follows:


 * with 642 points, mostly from 11 GAs about radio and television;
 * with 530 points, mostly from two FAs (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three GAs;
 * with 523 points, mostly from 11 GAs about coinage and history;
 * with 497 points, mostly from a FA about the 2020 season of the soccer club Seattle Sounders FC and two GAs;
 * with 410 points, mostly from a FA about the drink Capri-Sun and three GAs;
 * with 330 points, mostly from a FA about the English botanist Anna Blackburne and a GA.

Competitors may submit work for the second round until the end of 28 April, and the third round starts 1 May. Remember that only competitors with the top 32 scores will make it through to the third round. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. Please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs. As a reminder, competitors are strictly prohibited from gaming Wikipedia policies or processes to receive more points.

If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please read WikiCup/Scoring. Further questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (,, and ) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Your suggestion about noticeboards
Hi!

I just saw that in the Venezuela discussion you proposed GS applying arbcom-like restrictions to noticeboards. Mind elaborating further on what your idea is and why it would improve things?

Cheers, RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 21:32, 14 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @RadioactiveBoulevardier I wonder if the community would want to pass a general sanction to allow uninvolved administrators to impose word limits on involved parties at notice boards and, as a separate but complementary idea, to require involved parties to participate in certain sections. I genuinely don't know - there's a good chance the answer is no - but it's possible there's support for something like that. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:29, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Rules
Regarding this comment: perhaps you might be willing to provide a bigger hint on what rule you feel is being ignored? I understand of course if it involves a private discussion or if you just don't want to go into further detail. isaacl (talk) 16:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the suggestion. I have edited my comment. Barkeep49 (talk) 16:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the edit and subsequent comment. isaacl (talk) 00:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

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Growth News, April 2024


The Growth team will now send quarterly reports to keep you in the loop. Growth team weekly updates are available on wiki (in English) if you want to know more about our day-to-day work.

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Community Configuration
Growth features are currently configurable at. This quarter we are working on making Community Configuration accessible for other MediaWiki developers while also moving Growth feature configuration to the new CommunityConfiguration extension.

An early version of Community Configuration can be tested at Spanish Beta Wikipedia. We plan to release the new Community Configuration extension to pilot wikis (Arabic and Spanish Wikipedia) in early May, 2024. The first non-Growth team feature to utilize Community Configuration will be Automoderator.

In parallel with the development, the Growth team will propose Community Configuration usage guidelines, Community Configuration design guidelines, and provide technical documentation.

Experiment Results
Add a Image experiment analysis results

The Growth team conducted an experiment to assess the impact of the “Add an Image” structured task on the Newcomer Homepage's "Suggested Edits" module. This analysis finds that the Add an Image structured task leads to an increase in newcomer participation on the mobile web platform, particularly by making constructive (non-reverted) article edits:


 * The likelihood that mobile web newcomers make their first article edit (+17.0% over baseline)
 * The likelihood that they are retained as newcomers (+24.3% over baseline)
 * The number of edits they make during their first two weeks on the wiki (+21.8% over baseline)
 * A lower probability of the newcomers' edits will be reverted (-3.3% over baseline).

Personalized praise experiment results

This feature was developed for Mentors as part of the Growth team's Positive Reinforcement project. When A/B testing on Spanish Wikipedia, we found no significant impact on retention, but we found a significant positive impact on newcomer productivity. However, we concluded that the results weren’t positive enough to justify the time investment from Mentors. We plan to discuss this feature with our pilot wikis, and consider further improvements before scaling this feature further. Meanwhile, communities willing to test the feature can ask to have it deployed. (T361763)

English donors encouraged to try editing

As in previous years, donors were directed to a Thank you page after donation (example). However, this year we tested a new “Try editing Wikipedia,” call to action on the Thank You page. This call to action linked to a unique account creation page. From this account creation page we were able to track Registrations and Activation (editing for the first time). During the English banner campaign, the Donor Thank you page led to 4,398 new accounts, and 441 of those accounts went on to constructively edit within 24 hours. (T352900)

Future work
Annual Plan

The Growth team and the Editing team will work on the WE1.2 Key Result in the coming fiscal year. We will start initial discussions with communities soon to help finalize our plans. (T361657)

Newcomer Homepage Community Updates module

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 * @SandyGeorgia sorry was in a rush so didn't reply but all have been sent. Barkeep49 (talk) 15:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * It's kind of a mess; should I resummarize it all in retrospect, or is it understandable as is? Sandy Georgia (Talk)  15:10, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2024 May newsletter
The second round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 April. This round was particularly competitive: each of the 32 contestants who advanced to Round 3 scored at least 141 points. This is the highest number of points required to advance to Round 3 since 2014.

The following scorers in Round 2 all scored more than 500 points:
 * with 707 points, mostly from 45 good article nomination reviews and 12 good articless about radio and television;
 * with 600 points, mostly from 12 good articles and 12 did you know nominations about coinage and history;
 * with 552 points, mostly from a featured article about the 2020 Seattle Sounders FC season, three featured lists, and two good articles;
 * with 548 points, mostly from a featured article about the snooker player John Pulman, two featured lists, and one good article;
 * with 530 points, mostly from two featured articles (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three good articles.

The full scores for Round 2 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 18 featured articles, 22 featured lists, and 186 good articles, 76 in the news credits and at least 200 did you know credits. They have conducted 165 featured article reviews, as well as 399 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 21 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed during Round 3, which starts on 1 May at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

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March music
in memory of the birthday of a friend who showed me art such as this - and of Vami --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:50, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

... and the premiere of Nabucco --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:02, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Rossini's Petite messe solennelle was premiered on 14 March 1864, - when I listen to the desolate Agnus Dei I think of Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:09, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Vacation pics uploaded, at least the first day, - and Aribert Reimann remembered. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:41, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Next day, around Porto da Cruz, on Bach's birthday. You may remember that I suggested to give him an infobox in 2013. That one still listed some "prominent" pieces. Later we found the better solution: link to the complete list of compositions, - it's more neutral, avoiding editorial preferences. - On that background: what do you think of Vivaldi? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Some days later, a calf in the mist and chocolate cake, and a story of collaboration - did you think about Vivaldi? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:13, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

I listen to Bach's St John Passion today, - 300 years after it was first performed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:43, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

April music
I understand that you are busy, and Vivaldi can wait a bit longer, but we have the same situation now at Aaron Copland, with his Appalachian Spring going to by TFA in three days. The question is easy: does a list of compositions belong in the composer's infobox? I think yes (Bach, Mozart, Beethoven), and was reverted twice. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * My answer to the question is "whatever a consensus of editors decide is appropriate". This, even more than whether or not to have an infobox, is a content issue. Barkeep49 (talk) 14:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)


 * You didn't look. They have an infobox, - that's not the question. The question is: does the list of compositions belong in the composer's infobox, and I rub my eyes how that can even be a question. What else could be more worthwhile to show? - As I write this I have two supporters against the lone reverts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:19, 3 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I understood the issue. where "this" means compositions in the infobox. Barkeep49 (talk) 20:28, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I really didn't know understand what "this" meant. Sorry, more sorry, but I don't agree even after understanding. See Vivaldi: it wasn't painted as "lets discuss if we have the works or not" but as "the link violates a guideline" (questioning at the same time all compromise versions, Bach etc.). A longish discussion resulted in "no, they don't". And now? My little brain has no room for any good reason not to point at a composer's works, sorry sorry, and a simple "ce" or "trim" for an edit summary doesn't enlighten me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:56, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I go to bed knowing that I have three supporters against the lone reverts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:52, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I woke up to see that she offered a new idea! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:27, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear that. Barkeep49 (talk) 14:26, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I like to see Appalachian Spring on the Main page today (not by me, just interested and reviewed), and I also made it my story. - How do you like the statue (look up places)? I was undecided so show three versions ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:12, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Today I see Marian Anderson as my top story (by NBC, 1939), and below three people with raised arms, - and the place is the cherry blossom in Frauenstein. - With the ballet, 10k+ readers saw the composer's and didn't complain ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Marian Anderson - finally a musician you're posting about who I'm very familiar with. She was an amazing women and an incredibly talented performer. Barkeep49 (talk) 15:19, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes! I saw the news item last year when it was posted on Easter Sunday - as had been in 1939 - but then was too busy to listen to the whole broadcast. I did today, and was quite impressed, especially by the last two spirituals which sound as if sung by different women. - I brought Jessye Norman to GA, a singer where an infobox was never a problem. The short question & answer for Anderson from 2020 is refreshing (still on the talk). Why a few other cases are so problematic I'll never understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:15, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * plum tree blossom for Kalevi Kiviniemi in the snow - see my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
 * My story today is about a piece composed for the Second Sunday after Easter 300 years ago, and I just returned from a (long) opera about the same age, with soprano Pretty Yende --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:00, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * relief: the last of six RD articles in one week is now on the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:11, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * followed by two birthdays in a row, and I prefer those (see my talk) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:00, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * today a sad task - memory of Andrew Davis - turned into entertainment (yt at the bottom of his article, actually both) -- the latest pictures capture extreme weather --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:14, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * today you can look at the last three stories or "music" on my talk: the same topics, Youth Symphony Orchestra of Ukraine, Samuel Kummer and (pictured) one row of 8 double basses and another of 5 bassists ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:14, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).

Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship review has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including creating a discussion-only period (3b) and administrator elections (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as creating a reminder of civility norms (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the full report.

Technical news
 * Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531

Arbitration
 * The arbitration case Conflict of interest management has been closed.

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Good luck!
Wishing you success. Deb (talk) 07:55, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I think the most likely outcome is I serve out the remaining time on arbcom but we'll see in a few weeks. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:10, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Barkeep49 is a candidate in the U4C election

 * In case there are other lurkers like me who previously had no clue and weren't going to bother voting, Barkeep49 is a candidate in the U4C election. Sincerely, <b style="color: #0000cc;">North8000</b> (talk) 20:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm sure there are lurkers on this page who if they vote will vote against me. I hope they do that. I think this first committee is going to have an outsize influence on whether the U4C follows its charter in whether it respects large wikis with established mechanisms or it doesn't. I'm guessing enwiki people have real feelings on that matter (mostly in one direction, I guess, but some in the other) so I hope people find the candidates that are right and vote for them. There are also likely to be some candidates who editors find unappealing for a variety of reasons and I hope that people oppose them - better ot have a too small committee than a full one with bad people. Barkeep49 (talk) 22:07, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Re: age of discussions at CR
I don't want to request a word limit extension for this, but I do want to say it: merge requests tend to remain listed at CR for a very long time because merges are complicated and discussions about them often result in very unclear consensi. I understand your general point, but I would not interpret the fact that there are three older outstanding merge requests as evidence that the RMs are not being unusually delayed; I consider them a separate animal. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 02:52, 13 May 2024 (UTC)


 * And there are 3 RfCs which had been unclosed longer than that. I didn't want to be accused of doing an apples to oranges comparison so I didn't mention them but my point is: we don't have enough editor time to support the processes we have and so hard calls (and there's no denying that close was a hard one) face a burden. Especially when they're not one off's as someone else takes one of those hard ones but may not be up for repeatedly taking them. Barkeep49 (talk) 02:56, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

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I am thinking about submitting an amendment request as outlined here, but I have a few questions. First, do you think I can try it, or given the AE issue, I would better wait another year? Secondly, do I understand correctly that such request only involves myself, and I should not notify other users? The interaction ban was one-sided. Or I should notify VM and Piotrus because they are mentioned in the FoF and decision about me? Finally, I would probably need a help from an arbitration clerk to correctly submit it. Thank you, and sorry for the trouble. My very best wishes (talk) 16:18, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @My very best wishes. I am of course speaking just for myself here. I think if you waited until a year from the AE enforcement, an amendment request would be fine or rather not too much more is gained by waiting an additional year. As for notifications, since you're already going to be asking for help from the clerks with posting (which I would suggest doing at WP:AC/CN) perhaps they could also help you with notifications, which in my opinion do need to happen for any kind of iban amendment request. Barkeep49 (talk) 17:03, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Then I will definitely wait until a year from the AE enforcement, unless someone else will submit an amendment for this case, so perhaps it will be easier to consider several participants during one request for amendment. I must admit that I did not expect to receive these bans, I felt terrible after receiving them, and I counted days to apply for the amendment. My very best wishes (talk) 16:02, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

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Gottagotospace has asked for a deletion review of Ed Winters. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —Cryptic 15:44, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I mixed up the closing admins from the two deletion reviews, so I notified one but forgot to notify the other. Thanks for correcting my mistake :) Gottagotospace (talk) 15:56, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

IP block exempt
WP:IPECPROXY told me to contact a CU. I'll be traveling next month and wish to use a VPN on any WiFi network that isn't under my control, which will likely be all of them. I've also requested global IP block exempt but understand that may not be enough.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1716938895551:User_talkFTTCLNBarkeep49" class="FTTCmt"> — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 23:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I've studiously avoided doing IPBE requests until now. I have made an exception to grant this for a month but also noting for any other talk page watchers I'll likely be bowing out from any future requests. Barkeep49 (talk) 21:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

May music
Today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear (DYK) and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old (OTD). -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

29 May 1913: The Rite of Spring - today's story, actually something I saw at that place in a revival. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:14, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is about Samuel Kummer, one of five items on the Main page - more musing on my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:44, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

You have many fans!
My dad is a teacher and he's pals with the school librarian, who recently mentioned to him that she's a huge fan of Wikipedia's coverage of children's book awards. That's you! I figured I'd pass along the message. Thanks for all your arbitrating and children's literature creating :-) Crunchydillpickle🥒 (talk) 18:52, 30 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the kind words and for taking the time to post them @Crunchydillpickle. One of the things that I love about editing Wikipedia is that it attracts real readers and it's always good to hear about a specific one rather than just ones in the abstract. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:23, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

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Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Pofka
Hello, I am writing to you to inform you that I have filled an appeal regarding a sanction which was imposed to me by you (see the appeal HERE). -- Po  fk  a  (talk) 12:16, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

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what are the requirements for declaring a Contentious Topic? Thanks for any thoughts. Elinruby (talk) 15:36, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * each arbitrator would have their own standard but generally a pattern of disruption where the normal processes are insufficient to counter. This is often some combination of amount of articles/forums being disrupted and the amount difficulty caused by the disruption. Barkeep49 (talk) 15:42, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank your for the answer. Last follow-up, I promise: Can this be done by motion or does there need to be a case? And is a request for a case the right thing to file either way? Also, difficulty for whom? Elinruby (talk) 21:07, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It can be done by motion but often arbs want a full case. A case request would be the right place to go. I would recommend reading the new Guide to ArbCom before filing any request (in this case probably part 2 is the crucial one for what you need to know to be successful). Barkeep49 (talk) 21:15, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you Elinruby (talk) 22:49, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Adil Raja's Draft Page
Hello,

You recently left a warning on my talk page for offering Saqib some money to accept the page. That was my mistake. I did that out of frustration because I worked on it for months and he rejected it twice. Would it be possible for you to review the draft? Draft:Adil Raja

Please check it out and tell me if you think it's ready to be submitted. I believe that it's ready and has enough references. Also, could you ensure that Saqib doesn't edit the draft anymore? He seems biased against Adil, as he immediately rejected the draft twice. When I asked him to help me improve the draft, he told me to wait. I waited a whole month, and even then he said he was busy. Things don't add up. Please assist.

Thank you so much! WarriorYt43 (talk) 15:51, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @WarriorYt43 I know how frustrating it can be to wait for a draft to be reviewed. Unfortunately I am not reviewing drafts at this time and cannot help you. My general advise would be to improve the article based on the suggestions left to you before trying again - often the drafts which are clearly notable (the standard Wikipedia uses about who gets an article) are accepted faster than drafts where notability is more borderline. Good luck with your writing, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * WarriorYt43, Normally, I don't edit drafts, but I made changes to this one, like cleanup to remove WP:GUNREL sources and WP:OR hoping to get it approved. If I were biased, I would've not even bothered improving the bio. or have simply stopped you from editing this draft because you declared your COI so accusing me of being bias without evidence is unfounded and unhelpful. Just because I declined the draft doesn't mean I'm biased. The draft is on my watchlist, so naturally, I reviewed it and declined because it was not ready. Fwiw, I declined it, not rejected it. Anyway, I won't review it next time you submit it, but I've the right to edit it as I see fit (and I hope @Barkeep49 is cool with that) because we don't allow POV or poorly sourced BLPs.<span id="Saqib:1718732807503:User_talkFTTCLNBarkeep49" class="FTTCmt"> — Saqib  ( talk  I  contribs ) 17:46, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I understand your point, and I guess that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying your position and the steps you took to improve the draft. @Saqib WarriorYt43 (talk) 18:29, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

I-Ban
If I recall correctly, you imposed a two-way IBan between me and ElinRuby (ER), and I am addressing the correct person:

Today, at RSN, I spotted a thread on the reliability of Dorchester Review, opened by ER. I vaguely remembered a familiarity with the the magazine's name and the topic (Kamploops School grave) and discovered that the previous RSN discussion on the issue was motivated by this article-t/p thread. Long story short, it was me who had questioned the reliability of the source and initiated the debate.

Now, ER ought to know of the previous RSN discussion on the magazine (the section header goes "Dorchester Review, ", emphasis mine) and my involvement on the narrow locus, but I do not seek any sanction whatsoever and deem this a trivial mistake. Further, Kamloops Indian Residential School has been significantly edited by me and ER before the IBan but now that ER has significantly edited it after the IBan, I perhaps cannot edit it anymore. Once again, I do not claim any wrongdoing of ER; it is unfeasible for them to check the article-history of all articles they plan to edit, articles might exist where I have been guilty of the same, and the text of IBAN allows editing the same pages.

However, I would like to know if there is any way to partake in the current RSN discussion and the article since my involvement — on what is arguably a very narrow locus — predates ER's. I am not pinging ER to avoid breaching the IBan. TrangaBellam (talk) 07:33, 20 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @TrangaBellam I didn't impose it (that was Bishonen) but am now the responsible administrator so the result is the same. I think the answer to whether you can participate in the RSN is no because it's clearly a discussion started by ER and so pretty much any reply is going to violate the IBAN rule of reply to in discussions. You have 1 edit to Dorchester review in the last 500 so it's not some great amount of editing. You both edited Kamploops School before the iBan and can after as long as you don't revert each other. Thanks for checking and let me know if you have any follow up questions. Barkeep49 (talk) 14:55, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * That being the case, I am appealing for the IBan to be vacated unless ER wishes for it to stay.
 * It is quite hilarious that an issue which was first raised by me at the article t/p (and subsequently discussed at RSN) gets raised by ER — of all people — and I do not get to opine. Fwiw, it appears (to me) that I and ER have rather-aligning views on the broader locus though I am unsure about their opinion on the particular RSN question and won't speculate. TrangaBellam (talk) 19:03, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * FYI, @Bishonen. In case, you have anything to say. With apologies for the ping, TrangaBellam (talk) 19:05, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Happy for you to appeal. You need to demonstrate that You can do that with me or you can go directly to one of the community forums to make your appeal. Barkeep49 (talk) 00:55, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I and ER do not edit a common set of articles and, hence, I do not really see the conflicts resuming. In any case, I plan to not engage with ER and ask for a waiver of the IBan primarily (only-?) to participate in the rare content-dispute threads started by him where I had already partaken earlier. That said, I do not know if ER wishes for the IBan to stay. TrangaBellam (talk) 10:22, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @TrangaBellam after thinking this over, I think this should get wider feedback, including from ER and I do not want to be singly responsible for policing that interaction, and so I suggest you formally appeal this to a notice board. Barkeep49 (talk) 23:55, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * This was a CT IBan? Where is this to be appealed — AE? TrangaBellam (talk) 04:58, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I just noticed this thread. Without getting into the merits of the original sanction, which I have previously disputed, there is now and RfC and an ANI thread titled "Riposte97: time sink". I think TB is mistaken about who edited the Kamloops article first but more to the point for the record I have zero, zilch, negative infinity objections to helping with the denialist disruption that is going on in the residential school articles, and am intelligent enough to accept help that is clearly needed since Riposte97 last I checked was still actively disrupting Canadian Indian residential school gravesites Kamloops Indian Residential School even as this has been grinding through RSN and ANI. I am confident that collaboration can take place without unseemly and counterproductive squabbling. Right TB?
 * that said I would really appreciate it if you would get my name and gender right. And I dislike ER and would prefer El if you don't want to type All That.
 * Barkeep, is there such a thing as dropping the i-ban by mutual agreement? TB is right, it did not occur to me to check the history of Dorchester Review at RSN, and I appreciate the graciousness about it. Meanwhile, pending the paperwork (NOTBURO?) if TB wants to chime in on these denialist threads I am starting I absolutely welcome the help. Elinruby (talk) 10:45, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Elinruby; I agree that there will be no counterproductive discourse. So, given our mutual agreement, Barkeep49, are you willing to vacate the I-Ban? TrangaBellam (talk) 07:03, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok. Let's try it. I'll strike the log in a moment @Elinruby @TrangaBellam. Barkeep49 (talk) 15:31, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Wrongful speedy deletion
I am requesting the reversal of the wrongful speedy deletion of 2024 Kissena Park sexual assault case. As per WP:G10:

"Examples of 'attack pages' may include: libel, legal threats, material intended purely to harass or intimidate a person, or biographical material about a living person that is entirely negative in tone and unsourced."

The stub created was sourced by ABC, NBC, CNN & the New York Post. It did not contain libel as it was sourced directly from these reliable and prestigious sources. It hadn’t even named the perpetrator in the content of the article yet so you cannot claim that it was targeted - or even claim it was unjustly written given the fact that the case as since swept the media coverage of the Northeastern United States.

You could have nominated it for deletion. The misuse of speedy deletion was inappropriate, uncalled for and in violation of Wikipedia policy. 9t5 (talk) 22:33, 20 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @9t5 The article when deleted had been nominated by another editor and on my review I found it to meet the criteria for speedy deletion. I see you have re-created the article. In the re-created article you avoided the serious issues that justified the previous deletion, but continued to have violations of the Biographies of Living People policy, specifically WP:BLPCRIME and so I have had to revision delete much of your creation. I suggest you review the policy to avoid other issues. In addition I will be alerting you to our contentious topic procedures. Please let me know if you have any questions about any of this. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:02, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Barkeep49 Your revision was absolutely justified. Other editors keep including the name of the suspect. I am going to revert those edits, and I will keep a close eye on it. I apologize. I thought you were the one who tagged it for speedy deletion. 9t5 (talk) 17:37, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Christophervincent01
Hi, I just blocked and tagged as a sock of Christophervincent01. I didn't tag the master, mainly because I have no idea why he was ArbCom-blocked. Nonetheless, I thought you might like to know.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:18, 25 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the alert @Bbb23. By tag the master what do you mean? I see that Threeseven29 links back to Christophervincent01. Barkeep49 (talk) 15:28, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I didn't tag Christophervincent01.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:29, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Another heads up. The new account admitted being a sock and left a diatribe on their Talk page. I've revoked TPA.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:00, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Barkeep49 (talk) 02:23, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

June music
Franz Kafka died 100 years ago OTD, hence the story. I uploaded a few pics from the visit of Graham87. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is about a tune used by Bach and Mozart. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Today I wanted to write a happy song story, on a friend's birthday, but instead we have the word of thunder on top of it, which would have been better on 2 June, this year's first Sunday after Trinity. The new lilypond - thanks to DanCherek - is quite impressive. As my 2 Jun story said: Bach was fired up. - Today's Main page is rich in music, also Franz Liszt and a conductor. I try to avoid the topic infoboxes, really, but compare Liszt and Schumann: which difference do you see? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Today is "the day" for James Joyce, also for Bach's fourth chorale cantata (and why does it come before the third?) - the new pics have a mammal I had to look up. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:31, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

New pics of food and flowers come with the story of Noye's Fludde (premiered on 18 June), written by Brian Boulton. I nominated Éric Tappy because he died, and it needs support today! I nominated another women for GA in the Women in Green June run, - review welcome, and more noms planned. - The attempt by Wugapodes to get MoS/infoboxes more in line with current usage was closed as no consensus, as you will have seen. It looks like before it could gain consensus, infoboxes would have to stop being regarded as contentious. Until then, we'll live with a MoS that is not in line with current usage, as we have done for the last 10+ years ;) - (I'm writing a bit more to get the image next to the text:) I would prefer if infobox discussions were kept factual. "ignore ignore ignore", helpful advice by a friend who was desysopped for protecting Laurence Olivier because of edit-warring over the hidden text about no infobox although he was of course not neutral - is not so easy when you face comments such as in Talk:Gustav Mahler where I think I made a neutral statement. I mind two things in the responses: being described (which has nothing to do with the question at hand), and (more) the proud statement to have retained the infobox for Robert Schumann while expanding for FA, when it wasn't retained but made almost worthless by removing the link to the list of his compositions. When Brian Boulton came up with a for FA Percy Grainger, it had this list, as suggested in infobox classical composer in 2010, well before I even knew what an infobox is ;) - Laurence Olivier received an infobox per RfC, as you may remember. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Today is a feast day for which Bach composed a chorale cantata in 1724 (and we had a DYK about it in 2012). Can't believe that Jodie Devos had to die, - don't miss her video from the Opéra-Comique at the end, - story to come. The weekend brought plenty of music sung and listened to, and some of it is reflected in the last two stories! + pics of good food with good company --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

the sad story today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:44, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 July newsletter
The third round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 June. As with Round 2, this round was competitive: each of the 16 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 256 points.

The following editors all scored more than 400 points in Round 3:


 * with 1,059 points, mostly from 1 featured article on DeLancey W. Gill, 11 good articles, 18 did you know nominations, and dozens of reviews;
 * with 673 points, mostly from 2 featured articles on Worlds (Porter Robinson album) and I'm God, 5 good articles, and 2 did you know nominations;
 * with 557 points, mostly from 1 featured article on KNXV-TV, 5 good articles, and 8 did you know nominations; and
 * with 415 points, mostly from 1 featured article on Great cuckoo-dove, with a high number of bonus points from that article.

The full scores for round 3 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 28 featured articles, 38 featured lists, 240 good articles, 92 in the news credits, and at least 285 did you know credits. They have conducted 279 featured article reviews, as well as 492 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 22 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed during Round 4, which starts on 1 July at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

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