User talk:BarkingFish/Archives/Archive 16

Archive 16 - Messages from 4 January 2011 to 31 December 2011

Your submission at Articles for creation
Thank you for submitting an article to Wikipedia. Your submission has been reviewed and has been put on hold pending clarification or improvements from you or other editors. Please take a look and respond if possible. You can find it at Wikipedia&. If there is no response within twenty-four hours the request may be declined; if this happens feel free to continue to work on the article. You can resubmit it (by adding the text to the top of the article) when you believe the concerns have been addressed. Thank you. Alpha Quadrant   talk    03:19, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Bishopmichael.png
Message from myself removed. I do not have goldfish memory, thus when I delete something I uploaded, I don't need to be warned that I've done it. I know already.

Editcountitis
Hi BarkingFish, re your point about edit count on that RFA. Whoever told you that 8,000-12,000 article edits were needed for a successful RFA was unduly pessimistic, the last two admins who made it through RFA have barely 13,000 edits between them - so neither came close to 8,000 mainspace edits. I think one of them had slightly fewer edits than you have now, and she had over 100 supports and no opposes. That doesn't preclude an individual editor from having different RFA expectations to the bulk of the community, but if you've dismissed all thought of an RFA until you have several times as many mainspace edits as your current 1307, then I think that would be a shame. I haven't reviewed you, and my views on what makes a good candidate are not always fully in the mainstream, but you may be far closer to adminship than you think.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers 21:39, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Krologo.jpg
 Thanks for uploading File:Krologo.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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Re: Removal of image from KRO and tagging of Krologo.jpg
Can I ask what you feel that image is adding to the article? J Milburn (talk) 00:35, 7 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, it is giving an idea of the visual identity of the channel - essentially it shows the reader of the article the "brand image" if you like. The image is drawn in a childlike manner, displaying to the user an idea of the nature of the channel and its targeted audience. Barking Fish  01:11, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * If the article was on KRO Kindertijd, I would have no objection to the use of the logo, but it's on Katholieke Radio Omroep as a whole; as such, there's no kind of "automatic entitlement" for its use, as there is often perceived to be with, for instance, album covers in articles about the album. Unless the logo is particularly significant (and you have reliable sources to demonstrate the fact) I'm not seeing why it should be there. J Milburn (talk) 01:15, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * If I may be so bold as to ask, how did the image come to your attention? It's been sitting there quite happily for 13 months without a whisper. The article includes a section about their Youth Services, to which the image is attached. The image is relevant to that section.  There doesn't as far as I know need to be an "automatic entitlement", but if its in the policy, I'll take it down and write a separate article on KRO Kindertijd to ensure the image doesn't go orphan. Barking Fish  01:28, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not really relevant, but I was working through an automatically generated list of potentially problematic non-free images. I don't remember if it was this one on the list, or another in the article. You are right that there does not need to be an "automatic entitlement" to use non-free content, but there does need to be a strong justification, and in this case, one seems to be lacking. A single logo repsenting the subject of the article to lead the article is generally accepted to be fine, but this does not extend to non-free logos on related subjects, meaning anything else is going to need a stronger justification. In any case, yes, I would have no objection to this logo appearing in the infobox in an article on the subject that the logo represents. J Milburn (talk) 01:37, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Question
If i want to be a future candidate for adminship, what sort of edits should i make? Someone65 (talk) 21:18, 7 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, I haven't a clue. All I know is you need to have edits (and plenty of them) in all areas pretty much, Wikipedia Talk pages, Policy, AFD's, Article writing, and so on. Maybe go find an admin and ask them :) Barking Fish  22:17, 7 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Thread Baked

Your submission at Articles for creation
Nick Leventis, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. Thank you for helping Wikipedia! [CharlieEchoTango]  10:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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Uhm...
Next time you're on the IRC, can you /msg Jazzi, I'd like to speak to you. I've heard about you through a friend. --ϐαςς ᴶαϟϟι  03:29, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Replied at your talkpage. Barking Fish  11:02, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Aye, well, you had helped my friend. And basically, I just want to thank you, but some stuff I don't really want to say here. --ϐαςς ᴶαϟϟι Japas Artwork.png 16:19, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Gonzonoir RfA
Comment removed - Mushrooms, anyone? Barking Fish  16:44, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Your signature
Comment Removed - Dealt with. Wasn't a problem before, don't see why it is now. Barking <font color="blue" size="2" face="Tahoma">Fish  16:39, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

tpi.wp logo
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cbrown1023#File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-tpi.svg User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:52, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

User:NPrice
This particular SPA seems hell-bent on removing SPA tags from the GNAA DRV; is there anything we can or should do about it? The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 17:32, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Yep, Blade. File a report at AN/I, and have them dealt with that way round. Removal of maintenance tags is not permitted. <font color="red" size="2" face="Tahoma">Barking <font color="blue" size="2" face="Tahoma">Fish  17:36, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * If he does it again, I'll do just that; I hate to have to dial 911, but the last thing we need there is more drama, which is all this will bring. The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 17:37, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

IRC invitation
Because I have noticed you commenting at the current RfC regarding Pending Changes, I wanted to invite you to the IRC channel for pending changes. If you are not customarily logged into the IRC, use this link. This under used resource can allow real time discussion at this particularly timely venture of the trial known as Pending Changes. Even if nothing can come from debating points there, at least this invitation is delivered with the best of intentions and good faith expectations. Kind regards.  My 76 Strat  09:24, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

TUSC token 6cc2bfad1610a51b2bb1f04cea54652a
I am now proud owner of a TUSC account!

Re: meta
Hello Fish, thought that I would drop you a line. While posting a pointer on meta was, in my opinion, appropriate, what the editors at the RfC are objecting to is that you made an argument along with your post. Per guidelines on such notices, they should be neutrally worded. If discussion had started at meta, then you would have been well within rights to argue all you like there, but your initial post should have been a simple notice that the discussion was taking place, so as not to bias those entering the discussion from your post. Does that seem reasonable? Just something to keep in mind in the future, as what's done is done. If you agree with my analysis here, it may be helpful to apologize somewhere on the discussion for the RFC, but that's just a suggestion.

On an unrelated note, your username makes me happy. In an expression of thanks, I will not give you a picture of kittens. Danger (talk) 13:32, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

GoogleTrans gadget on nlwiki needs to be upgraded
Hi Mr Fish,

Thanks for contacting me, and thanks for putting GoogleTrans on the nlwiki.

Unfortunately, the gadget needs to be upgraded to support IE9.

I've put the upgrade on

nl:User:Endo999/GoogleTrans.js

and you can just copy it over or refer to it in your gadget file by

ImportScript("User:Endo999/GoogleTrans.js");

It's up to you how you want to do it.

I do have a more recent upgrade of the gadget on

User:Endo999/GoogleTrans.js

which now has a 'Translate Next Sentence?' command in the popup when more than 1 word is selected.

This will automatically select the next sentence and also translate it. Manually selecting the text is a long operation so I thought I'd do something to automate it. So if you don't know the language that well you can select one sentence manually and then use the 'translate next sentence?' link to flip through an article.

If you do use the latest version (see above) you'll have to set 'nl' as from language and 'en' as to language see User:Endo999/GoogleTrans on instructions on how to do this.

Thanks again for installing GoogleTrans. I appreciate it.

Actually, I've put in some Text To Speech with Karaoke on my private version of GoogleTrans, available at:

http://www.securecottage.com/cgi-bin/reference.cgi

You can link to the nlwiki from there and have some Dutch electronically spoken to you. The voices come from ESPEAK so they are not great but I've listened to the French and it is quite understandable.

As well, there is a Word Tracker effect (karaoke) when you play a sound file in this system. The word, or a word close, is selected as the word is spoken. I found, with Spanish, that I lose track of what word is being spoken, so I put it in there.

If you are interested in listening to some spoken Dutch then please try it out for a few minutes and let me know what you think.

Warm Regards,

Endo999 (talk) 22:03, 2 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Aha! I figured that musta been what you wanted, I've not been on nlwp much recently due to wiki commitments and IRL stuff elsewhere. The upgrade has been done, I did it about an hour ago, the IE9 version is out on nl wikipedia. Thanks for the contact! <font color="red" size="2" face="Tahoma">Fish <font color="blue" size="2" face="Tahoma">Barking?  22:16, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Waybuloo-piplings.jpg
 Thanks for uploading File:Waybuloo-piplings.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 19:31, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Carmen Kurtz
Baseball  Watcher  23:35, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Articles_for_deletion/Muj_(band)
Comment removed: I don't need people telling me how I should vote on an AFD - I have my own mind, I make my own decisions, thanks, FlyByNight.

De blaffende vis
Say, I just noticed you claim some Dutch on your user page. Did you know there's a restaurant (well, there used to be) in Amsterdam with your name? I think it was on the Westermarkt. I never ate there, but I used to live around the corner and was amused by the name. Groeten, Drmies (talk) 01:18, 26 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Drmies - I was aware of it, and it's still there :) A listing for De blaffende vis! - Dank je, <font color="red" size="2" face="Tahoma">Fish <font color="blue" size="2" face="Tahoma">Barking?  01:31, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Ha! (And for over twenty years I've been confusing the Westerstraat and the Westermarkt...) Well, I'll pass on the stamppot andijvie met een top bal gehakt, but sign me up for a couple of kroketten. Now, for your next restaurant/username (maybe you can start socking), try De geparkeerde mossel or De dronken kreeft. Happy days! Drmies (talk) 01:44, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Essay
This has no incoming links, you haven't touched it since 2009, and it's incomplete and redlinky. Do you still want it? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 18:41, 22 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, I do. I still want to finish that essay, but to be honest I've been so busy for so long, I'd forgotten about it. Thank you for the reminder, but please leave it where it is :) <font style="background:white;" color="blue"> BarkingFish  19:00, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Friendly FYI
Just a quick note - User talk:ScotlandyardRussiandesk has a message left by you, only it was at User:ScotlandyardRussiandesk until I moved it recently. No worries, as I've done the same myself - just a little FYI, is all. <sup style="color:red;">Avic <sub style="color:blue;">ennasis @ 04:53, 1 Elul 5771 / 04:53, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Hide fundraising banner gadget
Hi BarkingFish, sorry for not getting back to you sooner, it's been quite a busy day. I did some digging and it looks like TheDJ removed the gadget here after the last fundraiser was finished, just to avoid cluttering up the list. I'll make a note to re-add it once we get closer to this year's, the plan is to start around November as usual. Pcoombe (WMF) (talk) 00:21, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

You rock!
I'm terribly sorry to hear about your injury. I hope you are doing well and will recover soon. Anyhoo, I had to stop by and tell you how happy I am that you are here contributing this project. It seems that everywhere I go, you have already been there and said the things I wanted to say (policy-wise that is). The latest was the it:wp thread at Meta. I absolutely loved the '''Woohoo! I support this action entirely'''. I wish I had your flair. I just thought it was really nice to have somebody so dedicated working on this project. So I figured I'd stop by and tell what a pleasure it is having you here contributing. barnstar removed It's you, and people like you, that make me happy to volunteer my time here. So I had to let you know that your being here is much more than the contributions you make to the articles. Much, much more. The improvemnts you give to the project help make this place better and that helps a great many people in so many differnt ways. It really is a treat having you here and so I thank you kindly. Best regards and get well soon. - Hydroxonium (T•C• [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&limit=1&amp;username=Hydroxonium V] ) 06:51, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Nelly & César - Cache cache
It's not perfect, but here is the French transcription. Okki (talk) 19:28, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

GoogleTrans gadget on nlwiki needs to be updated
Hi there,

The Google language API v1 goes out of commission on 1 Dec 2011, so I need to update the GoogleTrans gadget on nlwiki with the changes to run on Google language API v2. Right now everyone seems to be getting a "Quota Exceeded" message when they use the gadget. This code fixes that up.

The code for this is at:

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Endo999/GoogleTrans.js

Hope your concussion clears up. You must have been playing American football or something like that.

Endo999 (talk) 23:17, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

RE: Acc (from IRC)
I've unsuspended your account. If you'd like to discuss/change the inactivity suspension policy, I'd suggest raising the topic on the mailing list. -- Chris 16:19, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Your injury
I'm sorry to hear about your injury. Get well soon! ~ Matthewrbowker   <sup style="color:#0000aa;">Say hi!  07:29, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Cheers. :) No need for further correspondence. <span style="font: Tahoma, Arial, San-Serif; font-size: 8pt;">&tilde;danjel [ talk | contribs ] 14:26, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Yrtneg
For what it's worth, I agree emphatically with your caution to. He was previously warned about his signature and about his approach to editing Wikipedia (or, perhaps more accurately, to not editing Wikipedia) while he was editing under the username a couple of months ago. It doesn't appear that things have changed much since then, though he certainly has gone through a lot of usernames. After abandoning the Mnidaydwisww account, he created Η-θ on 27 October, which he had renamed to ᐅ on 27 November, which in turn was renamed to Yrtneg on 10 December. Other accounts under which he has made fewer edits include He's been pretty MySpacey the whole time, Mnidaydwisww racked up about two hundred edits fiddling with his userspace and signature, and only managed about 20 minor mainspace edits. It looks as though his ratio has gotten worse since. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:17, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * - 'bot' account that never actually got permission to do anything
 * - a alternate public account, that only got as far as creating its user page


 * To be honest, I would be very surprised if he didn't return, under this name or another one. GoodBye is a worthwhile essay, if you haven't seen it before. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 00:08, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Your post at his talk
Well done on getting him editing. That's a start. He's annoyed at me for pointing out a few things about his editing. But, I felt I had no choice, and I tried to be polite. I had to weigh out offending him vs. his erroneous speedy tagging or vandalism reverting a newcomer, and chasing that person away. I think his leaving over my guidance would be a bit rash. Anyway, thanks so much for your post at his talk. I think it was the right thing to do because the old situation wasn't constructive, and was just "myspacing it" Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:58, 15 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you Anna - I think mine was a bit more than "guidance" though - it was more a case of "be constructive and help us, or take a hike" - and I guess he chose to leave rather than be constructive.


 * I can be a little cold sometimes, Anna - but my belief is simple, and pure - when I have something to say, I say it. Regardless of how harsh, hard or how rude I might sound.  I don't believe in pussyfooting around people.  If they need telling,  they get told.


 * Best wishes, and Seasonal Felicitations (Happy Christmas, in other words!) :)

<font style="background:white;" color="blue"> BarkingFish 12:49, 15 December 2011 (UTC)


 * It was fine. Happy holidays to you too. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:47, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

The second case
Your notice at User talk:MegaLady was ignored, as were mine. I think I will MfD if you don't first. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:47, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi :o(
I note from your signing of the Barnstar of Decapitation that you are apparently not au fait with the evidence, as opposed to the complaint. Please read here. There was no "hounding". He had never told me to stay away from his talk page. Do please read all the real truth, and note that Wgfinley, once he understood what had actually happened, as opposed to what I was accused of, struck the "admonishment" from the record. Pesky  ( talk  …stalk!) 07:00, 19 December 2011 (UTC)