User talk:BaronLarf/Wisconsin archive

Categorization
Hello there! When you are adding categories to an article, please be sure that it is not already covered by a more specific category to avoid redundancy. I found a couple of articles to which you added Category:Wisconsin politicians that were already in Category:Governors of Wisconsin; one of those was additionally categorized as serving under both houses of the state legislature. Obviously all Wisconsin governors and Wisconsin legislators are also Wisconsin politicians. If we didn't exclude from articles all parent categories to which they necessarily belong as members of subcategories, Coles Bashford, for example, would also be placed in Category:U.S. politicians, Category:Government of Wisconsin, Category:State governors of the U.S., Category:Wisconsin, Category:People from Wisconsin, Category:American people, Category:People... This would obviously create a mess. Thanks! Postdlf 00:03, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks; I've completely redone the subcategories for Category:Wisconsin politicians, so this should be more in line with what you prefer.  --BaronLarf 20:04, Jan 7, 2005 (UTC)

Deletion of links on EC and LC pages
May I inquire why you removed the synagogue link from the Eau Claire page (and from the La Crosse page too I see)? I was surprised to see it show up there, but not particularly disturbed by it, but I'm curious why you saw fit to delete it without a word on the talk page as to why...in fact, you didn't even bother to comment on your deletion. What I find to be the strangest about your deletion is that the person who put it there, 4.158.171.24, apparently went around much of the midwest putting links to various synagogues in medium-sized cities...yet the only ones you saw fit to delete were the ones in Eau Claire and La Crosse. I admit, I'm not entirely impartial...as the webmaster, I'm wondering if you found something about the site particularly objectionable? TShilo12 09:01, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't find anything objectionable about it, just nothing notable. Why link to a single house of worship from a page devoted to a city?  With that logic, every church, synagogue, etc should have a link there.  If anything, there could be a link to a page which lists the places of worship in that city.  The way it was seemed to be doing nothing but promoting a non-notable place of worship over others.  I only deleted it from Eau Claire and La Crosse because I happened to see it there as I was going through cities from Wisconsin.--BaronLarf 15:04, Feb 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * In that case, I agree with your decision to do so. I would take the time to delete the rest of them myself, but I'll let someone else worry about that, since listing or delisting houses of worship really isn't very big on my list of interest.  Perhaps I'll open up the Yellow Pages someday when I have nothing to do (like 317 years after I die), and do just that.  Or maybe one of these days I'll discover what this "boredom" thing is that people talk about.  That hasn't happened to me yet...  :-)  TShilo12 20:19, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

University of Wisconsin
I think you need to ask your question about moving the UW page history on an Admin's talk page or they are unlikely to see it, judging from the 3 month span without a response. --Blainster 20:11, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the kudos
Thanks for your comment regarding Wisconsin articles. You're right, a Wisconsin/Milwaukee Wikiproject is in order someday. I created the Milwaukee article many moons ago, so I have tried to stay with it somewhat. (It was more of a shell or list, but prior to that all the page talked about was beer and partying...) I have seen your editing at the Milwaukee article; hope you can continue in between your other contributions. Keep up the good work! HollyAm 21:52, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject Wisconsin
I saw that the other day on your userspace and meant to ask you about it...lemme finish up sorting through all the Wisconsin articles I can find that need my pretty stub tag slapped on them first, and then I'll get back to you w/ my thoughts on the WP:WP_W. Tomer TALK 21:23, July 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * OK, I've lost interest in this for a while...I haven't done the Wisconsin Sports and Wisconsin People cats and subcats. The first thing I'd like to see with WP:WPWI is how you think the project should be divided up.  I haven't looked at my watchlist all day tho, nor checked my email, and it's almost 9:30 PM.  So, I'm done with Wisconsin for today.  Tomer TALK  02:23, July 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * I haven't fully-formed my ideas about the WikiProject yet, though I've been toying with the idea for two months. When I saw you creating a new stub type and implementing it on lots of articles, I thought that it might be time to set up a WikiProject so we could work together on destubbing them.  I'll add more to the project page tomorrow, and help you add the stub messages on those sports and people pages.  Cheers.  --BaronLarf 05:06, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Great to see the Wisconsin WikiProject! I've only signed in for now, but will add tasks, etc. as I think of them HollyAm 04:27, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Good idea with this wikiproject! I can help out part-time, as things come up. I'm still awfully fond of Milwaukee, even after all these years. Cheers! Antandrus (talk) 05:13, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Beloit College
Nice fix on my Mounds link, to Tumulus#U.S.A. - much better approach. Question, though - should the first "Mound" link also go to the same spot? Was just curious why you changed mine, but left the original that I modeled mine on....
 * I didn't see the first link, only yours. I've now changed the first one, and removed the second wikilink; consensus is to have only the first instance of a term wikilinked.  (see WP:MOS)  Cheers.  --BaronLarf 20:08, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation, and the heads up on etiquette!

Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod
For Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod you put the WikiProject Wisconsin link on the Talk page, not the general page. Shouldn't it be on the general page? (from Johnh; originally unsigned & on User:BaronLarf)
 * The Template:WikiProject Wisconsin template goes on to the talk page, not the article page, since the message is meant for people editing and discussing articles, not those reading the article. Also, please leave messages on user talk pages (User talk:BaronLarf) rather than user pages (User:BaronLarf).  Cheers. --BaronLarf 23:43, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

Ok, if that's what you want. Sorry for marking up the wrong page (your user page). Johnh 03:36, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Silas Warner
Hi. I posted a bio on Silas and you reverted it. I used to work with him. I'm new to Wikipedia so I don't really know how it works. What did I do wrong?

Thanks
 * Your additions to Silas Warner were simply copied from http://www.atarimagazines.com/creative/v10n11/124_Zaron_and_the_art_of_moto.php, as I stated in that articles talk page. Copy violations cannot be tolerated.  This is why I removed your edit. --BaronLarf 21:19, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

I was pretty sure that my quote - since it credited the original publication - was ok under "fair use" however, I contacted Kevin Savetz who has permission to post the articles on the web. His response seems to ok that. I would like to resubmit my entry but before I do - what other objections to you have that would prompt you to summarily revert my edits?

-Original Message- From: Kevin Savetz Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 12:43 PM To: Eric Ace Subject: Re: regarding http://www.atarimagazines.com/

I short quote from that page won't be a problem - it'll fall clearly into Fair Use. A link to the article would be appreciated.

On Aug 15, 2005, at 4:49 AM, Eric Ace wrote:

>> Hi Kevin, >> >> My name is Eric Ace. I wanted to create an entry in Wikipedia for >> Silas >> Warner, who I worked with at MUSE software many years ago. I'd like to >> include a quote from Ed Zaron that appeard in an article you've >> posted on >> the web: >> >> http://www.atarimagazines.com/creative/ >> v10n11/124_Zaron_and_the_art_of_moto. >> php >> >> How would I go about inquiring about getting permission to do that? >> >> Thanks! >> >> - Eric Ace
 * Your email did not mention the GDFL. It doesn't have to be this complicated.  Just write an article in your own words and list the website as a source.  --BaronLarf 00:08, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

WVTV
You reverted the additions I made to the entry on WVTV, saying that they were copied from: http://www.milwaukee-horror-hosts.com/MilwTV.html. I happen to own that website, and am the author of that page. Most of the other Milwaukee TV station histories are, for the most part, rewrites of information on my page.

As such, I rewrote my information on WVTV and added it as a way of making that information available to folks here. Am I to assume that you don't want me to?
 * Sorry, but there's no way of showing that you are the same person who wrote the website article. In order to protect his copyrighted material, it was removed.  A rewrite of the article, with different wording, listing the website as a source would easily solve the problem. --BaronLarf 00:09, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

Well, it was a rewrite. You reverted it 6 minutes after I posted it - hardly enough time to check.

The easy way to clear things up would have been for you to have gone to the website, write an email to the contact, and I would have responded that I wrote that section and that it was ok.

If we work this out, I'll write the histories of WJJA and WPXE, but I'm not going to take all of the time to do so and then have those pages reverted.
 * I was on vandalism patrol. I selected a random portion of text, googled it, and found an exact match to another portion of text.  I looked over the article and it was a match.  Wikipedians can't sit down and write letters for every copyviolation that they find.  Cheers.  --BaronLarf 11:18, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

Well, you've turned me off. I was offering my material - which I've spent 100's of hours digging up - so that others might find it here organized by channel.
 * I'm sorry you feel that way. --BaronLarf 12:02, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

Re: Chicago meetup
''I live up in the Milwaukee area, but might be interested in a Chicago meetup. :^) --BaronLarf 00:41, August 19, 2005 (UTC)''
 * Well, you're welcome to locomotate down here to join us, but I rather doubt that we'd select a venue north of about Gurnee (assuming we ever get one together at all). Kelly Martin 00:45, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * That's fine; when you Chicago people decide upon a time and location, I might join you down there.  --BaronLarf 00:58, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

User categorization
Greetings, BaronLarf! Please accept this message as an invitation to categorize your user page in the category Category:Wikipedians in Wisconsin and removing your name from the Wikipedians/Wisconsin page. The page will be removed when all users have been removed. Even if you do not wish to be placed in a category, could you take a moment to remove your name from the Wikipedians/Wisconsin page? Thanks!!

To add your name to the category, please use the tag   to ensure proper sorting.

For more information, please see User categorisation and Category:Wikipedians by location. -- Roby Wayne  Talk &bull;  Hist 04:14, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Hello, congrats, Bjorklunden
BaronLarf, Wow. Congratulations on getting the admin tap. I hope that when you settle at your new location, you still have time for the old WP, which needs good editors. Speaking of that, I wrote an article for Björklunden based on a newspaper clipping my mother sent me (I even referenced it). It could use some treatment from a student who actually had a chance to attend something there (NPOV of course). Mention of Bjorklunden (this is a redirect) should also be added to the Lawrence page. I made some attempts, but all involved major changes to the order of the page and it's after midnight. I'll see if I have more time for both articles tomorrow. Will you do what you can? Thanks. -Acjelen 05:27, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks; I'll definitely take a look at it and try to help you out.  I don't get internet installed at my new place until tomorrow, but I'm hoping to become active again soon after that.  --BaronLarf 19:26, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Wisconsin/Wisconsin recent changes
Just out of curiosity, how did you go about populating the list at WikiProject Wisconsin/Wisconsin recent changes? older&ne;wiser 21:53, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I manually add them by pasting the results into a spreadsheet of the output from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Recentchangeslinked/Template:WikiProject_Wisconsin . I remove the "talk:" prefixes, and paste wikilinks of the articles, categories, images and templates into WikiProject Wisconsin/Wisconsin recent changes.  --BaronLarf 01:46, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Chicago area meetup
I've finally decided on a place for the first Wikipedia meetup in Chicago: 2 p.m. at Saturday, October 15th at Cafe Iberico, a tapas bar in the River North neighborhood of Chicago at 739 N. La Salle Drive. They have parking available and are 0.3 mile from the Chicago stop of the CTA Red Line. See their website for parking information; for transit planning use the RTA trip planner with a destination address of "739 N. La Salle Dr." Cafe Iberico has vegetarian selections for those who are so inclined (sorry, they're not very vegan-friendly, I'm afraid). The food is excellent and the environment very suitable for an informal gathering. Do check their webpage for any additional questions, or ask me. They typically cost typically costs between $10 and $15 per person; I'm willing to cover for anyone for whom this is too much (as long as we don't get too many people).

Please let me know before Saturday, October 8th (by email or on my talk page) if you're planning on coming so I can make the appropriate reservations. See you there! Oh, and please share this invitation with anyone you know of in the Chicago area who I've missed. Kelly Martin 19:53, 2 October 2005 (UTC)