User talk:Barpoint

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Sensational conduct
Hello.

My friend, there is something you should know: Overtly sensational behavior, like what you doing in Talk:Microsoft Office 2013, is not welcome in Wikipedia. Please cool off and look properly at what you are doing: First, I never said "lede" or "lead". I said it is already in the article and it indeed is there. Second, there is no call for disrupting the maintenance system by calling an RFC for something that is already discussed and approved. Third, we have a Manual of Style about lead section that says what should be in the lead and what should not be. Fourth, your own change was not in the lead.

What you have to do is to calm down, look properly at the article to see for yourself that I am telling the truth, and then read the discussion thread in the talk page. If you intend to make any change to that section in the article, please discuss it first; because Wikipedia works based on the consensus and there is already a consensus on how the contents in the article should look like. Just be patient and everything will work out faster than you'd expect.

Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 05:56, 20 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Dear Codename Lisa: I am hardly being "sensational." The consensus - based on earlier discussions on this page and a Third Opinion above - is that the "locked to one computer forever" issue deserves more prominence than it currently has in the article.  My RFC specifically stated that this critical point should be mentioned in the lede.  Your followup that this was "Already done" (an exact quote) is simply not true.  The fact that it's buried somewhere in the article skirts the whole issue that I (and others) have raised.  And you have reverted changes by other editors that gave this fact more prominence.


 * To quote from the Manual of Style about lead section that you referenced, "The lead serves as an introduction to the article and a summary of its most important aspects." To judge from news coverage, the fact that Office 2013 is locked to one computer forever is pretty clearly one of "its most important aspects."  In fact, typing "Office 2013" into Google News results in over 50 articles on the "one computer forever" issue, at the very top of the results.  Articles discussing any other aspect of the product are somewhere down the page. Barpoint (talk) 06:41, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

March 2017
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Minute Waltz, without citing a reliable source using an inline citation that clearly supports the material. The burden is on the person wishing to keep in the material to meet these requirements, as a necessary (but not always sufficient) condition. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Goalbox (talk) 03:47, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * My first change was simply a change of emphasis - the article as it stood already noted that the "Minute" nickname was "given by its publisher" (not by Chopin). My second change corrects a misrepresentation of sources that are already cited at the end of the sentence. Neither of those sources (the text is included in the references) claims that "the composer ... name[d] the piece 'Valse du petit chien'" but instead that he was *inspired* by a dog chasing its tail. Barpoint (talk) 04:14, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

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