User talk:BarretB/Archive 2

Thanks!
Thanks for your message, I was just trying to have a bit of fun, but I understand it needed to be removed and wikipedia mostly isn't a good place to have little jokes with oneself! I was very impressed by the speed it was picked up with though! Hopefully one day I'll have something useful to contribute. 94.169.248.63 (talk) 22:47, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Thomas Cochrane
One note that the External Link and date of Thomas Cochrane's creation as Marquess of Maranham were first requested for someone to contribute to - The very reason this author contributed accordingly... Since said contribution you deleted in a subsequent action, please note that if there exists any interest to get the right External Link and date of creation as Marquess of Maranham one may adivise and same will be provided in a manner suitable not to be, again, deleted by you.

At your avail I remain

Ricardodefaria (talk) 23:27, 4 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello. I would have converted the external links to inline citations but I wasn't sure they were suitable references. I removed this link because it doesn't appear to provide any information regarding the preceding sentence. And this link  does not indicate why it should be considered a reliable source. I am not a Portuguese speaker so I apologise if I am mistaken. I was also confused why you re-arranged these sentences    and I guessed they were possibly test edits. I hope this explains my edit. Regards. Barret (talk) 09:29, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Helo! is there a manner for me to address you in private? I practice law since 1972 and I do know to respect peoples' time and attempt at all times not to intrude and to write instead of speaking. There is cause, IMHO for this asking here. Thank you. ricardodefaria@ricardodefaria.comRicardodefaria (talk) 17:28, 19 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I would prefer to leave any discussion on this talk page, but if you wish to email me you can use the option in the toolbox menu to the left of this page. Barret (talk) 16:09, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Recent Talk Page Edits
Benea and BarretBonden,

Sorry for the recent edits on my talk page which is on your watchlist. I have been retrieving all of my discussions since I joined Wikipedia. I am sure you will agree that some are very interesting!!!

With compliments.

DAFMM (talk), 10th August 2009.

P. S. I copied this here incase you haven't got it on your watchlist anymore.


 * Yes very interesting reading. Thanks for the note. Barret (talk) 14:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Good Barrister
You would make a good barrister - I liked your 'prosecution' (!) against me on my edit warring. It was actually very good.

With compliments.

DAFMM (talk), 15th August 2009.

Your recent edits to Corfe Mullen
I noticed your recent edits to the Corfe Mullen page, where you have updated the titles in most cases. I don't have a major problem with these changes, but can I ask why you:

a. Took out the word 'The'? Is this a Wikipedia rule that I've missed?

b. Changed Period to 'Era'? I realise that the term era adds notoriety, but in this context I would have said the meaning was the same.

c. Changed 'Famous (and Infamous) Ex-residents' to 'Notable residents'. When I put the original title, I did so because I wanted to inform the reader that not all (most) of the people mentioned, were less than savoury. That message is lost if you don't follow the links, and not everyone will. Terry C (talk) 20:22, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * At first it was only my intention to remove unnecessary capitalisation from the headings (as per the guidelines at WP:Headings), but I noticed the titles could also be made a bit simpler and clearer.
 * a) I don't think there is any rule against using "the" but I would say it's better to keep the headings as succinct as possible. You will generally find this is the case with GA and FA standard articles.
 * b) I changed Victorian period to era because in my mind that seemed the better wording, and it is also the title of the article Victorian era. Feel free to change it back if you wish.
 * c) "Famous (and Infamous) Ex-residents" seemed a bit wordy – "notable people" is the usual title for this sort of section (see the suggested guidelines at WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements). Readers shouldn't have to always click on a link to find out more about something, perhaps an extra bit of text explaining why the resident was famous or infamous would be an option. Famous and infamous are also peacock terms and should usually be avoided. Cheers. Barret (talk) 12:59, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for clarifying your motives. I'll think about them and may do a little more as you suggest in c). --Terry C (talk) 14:06, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Thomas Cochrane Bias
(Discussion copied from Talk:Thomas Cochrane, 10th Earl of Dundonald removed) Thanks for letting me know about the discussion, DAFMM. I have replied on the article's talk page. Barret (talk) 20:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Good rewrite of the Stock Exchange scandal section. Thanks Dabbler (talk) 18:38, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

'El Diablo'
I found it on a website about the liberation of South America. However, after searching the internet I can't find it again! I will keep on trying. DAFMM (talk), 2nd September 2009.
 * I have just found it again here. DAFMM (talk), 3rd September 2009.
 * Thanks. I know you are trying to be helpful but I have the Thomas Cochrane page on my watchlist so there is no need for you to keep copying the discussion to my talk page. Barret (talk) 13:48, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Lance Armstrong page vandalism
Thanks, Barrett. good save on fixing the vandalism on L.A. today. However, that had to be an all-time classic line, definitely one for the ages:

"he is most known for his *** **** that sits in the middle of his *** ******** *** ****. if i could compare him to anyone in the world it would be cubby for certain reasons."

LOL! wow, funny, but thanks for catching it anyway! cheers,Jack B108 (talk) 22:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. I guess some vandals will always be fascinated by Armstrong's ball[s] :) Barret (talk) 18:10, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

European Union
A 141k revert?! That must be some kind of record! d a n n o 14:20, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I hadn't noticed, but yeah its quite impressive even if I say so myself. :P Barret (talk) 14:26, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Links
Can you tell me why the fansite Wedreamofjeannie.com isn't allowed yet the fansite BarbaraEdenonline is acceptable? I just don't see the difference. Both are fansites & neither are official.....and the funny thing is.........wedreamofjeannie.com is linked to barbaraedenonline.com. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr.mcnrd (talk • contribs) 22:59, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I've not looked at any of the I Dream of Jeannie related articles before so I'm unaware of any other inappropriate external links. I only noticed your edits while I was using Huggle. I have now also removed barbaraedenonline.com – thanks for pointing it out. Barret (talk) 12:53, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Happy 's Day!
For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it. — Rlevse • Talk  • 00:12, 19 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Wow I never expected that! Thank you very much :) Barret (talk) 17:21, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

New entries
New to Wiki. Will seek references.Gdcox (talk) 05:51, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Scouting barnstar
-For superior work in taking care of the BLP Bear Grylls. — Rlevse • Talk  • 10:26, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. It's a very nice surprise and much appreciated. :-) Barret (talk) 15:00, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

FYI: Sockpuppetry case Pptweddie
As you left a warning message on User talk:Monday009, you may be interested in Sockpuppet investigations/Pptweddie. Cheers, --4wajzkd02 (talk) 16:39, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Just wanted to drop by and say thanks for getting all the vandalism on my user page. --Darry2385 (talk) 23:21, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem :) Barret (talk) 23:25, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Your from Dorset?
Your from Dorset nice so am i Dorchester to be precise, great place to live as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GWRtom (talk • contribs) 21:18, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep it's not a bad part of the country. Welcome to Wikipedia btw -- I hope you intend to contribute in a more positive way unlike your previous edits to Dorset. Barret (talk) 22:58, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Vendetta
You clearly have a vendetta against me and my many brothers. Leave us Cronin boys alone.

Ray Cronin (talk) 22:47, 2 November 2009 (BST)
 * To BarretBonden; I've put in for page protection on the Leroy Cronin article. I know you did as well. Maybe it will stick this time. --Hammersoft (talk) 22:52, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome
Hi, you're welcome! Loves Macs  (talk) 15:04, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Continued vandalism
User talk:82.6.142.27 continues vandalizing page. This time it was the crash test dummy article. You should turn him in. -- T HE F OUNDERS I NTENT  PRAISE 15:34, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Reported and blocked for the next 24 hours. --Barret (talk) 16:39, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

annoyance
bacically i am trying to put across my point on this website and someone keeps on deleting it when acctually it is highly suitable like this !Csp2611 (talk) 18:15, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Please take a look at Neutral point of view and No original research and you will understand why your edit wasn't acceptable. Thanks. -- Barret (talk) 18:16, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

i have read read and re read that and no where does it state you can not put a true fact accross that barret binden does not like i know you have some vandals but i certainly am not one of them i think you should re judge that peice of writing and try and make it so it suits both of us thank you for your time tring to get rid of vandals but like many people on this talk page i do not agree with some of the things you do my comment was highly suitable so i think i should be able to re-write it thank you reply asap Csp2611 (talk) 17:05, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


 * All three of your edits to that article appeared to be your personal opinion  . Perhaps I should have also linked Verifiability -- if you can provide a reliable source which support these claims then you are welcome to reinsert that information. Barret (talk) 17:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Emmanuel Adebayor
Hi BarretBonden. I couldn't help but notice that you undid my editing on the Manchester City section of the Emmanuel Adebayor page. I felt that the incident had to be noted as it was Adebayor's first ever own goal while at Manchester City, and he also scored for Manchester City during the same match. So I thought I should mention it as he scored for and against both teams. I apologise if you felt it shouldn't have been there. Funnycricket (talk) 10:41, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello thanks for the note. There is no need for you to apologise at all -- it's just a difference of opinion. In my experience, football biographies on Wikipedia tend be a victim of recentism and become cluttered with excessive amounts of info about nearly every goal they score. Neither the own goal or the match seemed very notable or decisive at that stage of the PL season. IMO it's better to just to stick with a brief overview of each season which contains just the more noteworthy info. Barret (talk) 19:46, 1 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the advice. I'll take it into account for when I'm editing in future. Funnycricket (talk) 22:29, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Clavell Tower
Hello BarretBonden, please, I don't mean to be rude, but how about if I rewrite the Clavell Tower Section: Tower of the Winds without the italics;

The question remains: What is the Clavell Tower? A summerhouse, an observatory or a watchtower? Or solely a folly? This has the greatest credence. Because it is built relatively simple, it is not an easy building to live in, but was pleasant sight to look at after it was built. The tower sits high and exposed on the cliff top, so this could account for an alternative name it has Tower of the Winds. On the other side of the bay, also in lonely and isolated possition but more treasured (it seems) is a Nodding Donkey oil pump. Oil has been pumped from these cliffs since the late 1950’s and the largest European onshore site is nearby at Wytch Farm. A second question arises following this statement and one wonders why some of the revenue earned from the oil, could not have been invested in saving the tower. --Huligan0 (talk) 13:42, 24 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi firstly I would like to thank you for all the work you've carried out on Dorset articles lately and the translations you have created over on the German wikipedia. Unfortunately even with the italic portions removed most of that section still appears to be original thought. If it is unknown what purpose the tower was built for then I think this should just be simply stated instead of a section of unsourced speculation. The Landmark Trust (which seems to be a more reliable source than IsleofPurbeck.com) says it was built as a folly and observatory so I have made a few alterations to the article to include this. Barret (talk) 17:44, 24 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Hello, thanks for the compliment, it's made more fun than I thought it would (!!!) It's still amazing how things are handled and/or accepted and/or not in different Wiki languages. I will leave the above mentioned section off the Englisch version, which means I have accepted your comments. In German it has been corrected. Perhaps you would like to add Furzebrook, Dorset as a new page to: WikiProject Dorset/WatchAll? Best regards --Huligan0 (talk) 18:55, 24 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I added the WikiProject Dorset banner to the Furzebrook talk page a few days ago so it should be on the watchlist by now. :-) Barret (talk) 13:18, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Lyme Regis
Hello Barret, you could have helped to clear up that little mistake, but you didn't. Best regards anyway --Huligan0 (talk) 23:36, 24 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi sorry if you took offence that I undid two of your edits. It seemed you were unaware of what should be included in the see also section. I also didn't think there was anything to fix -- adding this additional info to every article associated with the Jurassic Coast seems unnecessary to me. Barret (talk) 13:13, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello Barret, thanks for the info and thanks for correcting a few things. I didn't really take offence. I had hoped that I would recieve some feedbacks, from the copy/paste action and it worked in a few cases. Actually, I am really hoping for a few new Artikels, so that I can translate Dorset/Isle of Purbeck into German. In english it's quite currious because sometimes the References are with a space, sometimes without, sometimes they get corrected in, sometimes corrected out. In German the space always gets corrected to go between punctuation and reference. In German they want the reference section after external links, in english before. Best wishes --Huligan0 (talk) 16:27, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Anvil Point
Hello Barret, Please take a look at Anvil Point and then I'm sure you would then like to add it as a new page to: WikiProject Dorset/WatchAll. I'm not sure how you do this and I don't want to mess things, so I'll just translate it. Best regards --Huligan0 (talk) 15:49, 31 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi for some reason I thought adding the banner to the talk page would add an article to the watchlist but I was wrong. I've now realised it just needs to be added to the list at WikiProject Dorset/WatchAll. Anvil Point now added. Cheers.--Barret (talk) 18:20, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

schools in Dorset & elsewhere
Hi, I saw your redirect. I'm currently working on Category:United Kingdom articles missing geocoordinate data, which I hope to finish in a few days. My next project is likely to be to tackle the proposed merger of schools to towns/areas. I will mention this at WP:SCHOOL first, but won't object if you want to tackle Dorset. Cheers. Rodhull andemu  00:25, 1 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi I'll have a look through the Dorset school articles but I'm not too familiar with the current consensus or notability criteria (apart from WP:ORG) for these articles so I'll probably only merge or redirect the more obvious cases like Merley First School. Regards.-- Barret (talk) 18:52, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the revert. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:22, 3 February 2010 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Barret (talk) 19:24, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Apologies
Missed that, sorry. Justin talk 22:39, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries. Barret (talk) 22:41, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Mukkulathor Wiki Page
Hi, both edits are false. The initial intro page has been vandalized by user T22878. The actual intros tell that these 3 castes (more than 10% of the Tamil population) are of Tamil Royal lineage!!... The ref given are false, just playonwords (thevar, dewar are (respectable) words before being a caste name). These castes used to be soldiers of the kings and Land lords (please check the initial refs) and after the collapse of then ancient order some of them managed to found their little kingdoms (this was the initial intro of this wiki page, much more accurate). Thanks.90.46.32.29 (talk) 19:00, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello I'm not sure which edits you are referring to or which editor you are. If you are Sharmalan then your edits were reverted because you failed to give an explanation in your edit summaries as to why you were removing content. If you believe some references are false or being misinterpreted then I suggest you first raise this on the article's talk page and give examples of the content you disagree with and indicate which previous version of the intro you wish to restore. --Barret (talk) 15:19, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm not this user, user Sharmalan also wrote that these 3 clans are of Tamil royal lineage which is pure POV. I'm talking about the original edit before vandalism from user T22878. The issue has already been raised on the article talk page. See the previous, initial links (before vandalim from user T22878):


 * People of India: Maharashtra By Kumar Suresh Singh,B. V. Bhanu,Anthropological Survey of India: "They have served in the armies of the earlier kings of Tamilnadu. The Kallar were the advanced guard, spies and guerilla troops, the Maravan were the infantry, while the Ayamudeiyar were the place retainers and occupational forces (Ramaswami 1972)"


 * The hollow crown: ethnohistory of an Indian kingdom By Nicholas B. Dirks pages 139 to 149: the scholar clearly tells that these clans served as soldiers of the Tamil Nobles, land Lords before setting up their own area of domination .90.46.32.29 (talk) 18:49, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Abbotsbury Subtropical Gardens
this article is about a subtropical garden - there is no need to wander off topic with a description of the Jurassic Coast
 * yes there is (!!!) where is it (???) --Huligan0 (talk) 23:59, 23 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't see why there needs to be a detailed description of the Jurassic Coast just because it is located near the gardens. There's nothing wrong with briefly mentioning it's nearby but the gardens aren't actually part of the coast are they? Barret (talk) 14:56, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

External Links on Corfe Mullen Page
I appreciate your point of view, but I disagree that the external links that you deleted on the Corfe Mullen page are not within Wikipedia guidelines. If you are going to delete the links to the schools and churches; which you did, then you need to do it for the other pages that include these (take Wimborne for example). I did look at the Wikipedia guidelines links that you gave, but couldn't see that any of the links on the Corfe Mullen page were of a commercial nature. They are all links to non-profit, non-commercial groups and organisations.

Furthermore, most of the other links are extremely relevant to the village; the link to the Dorset County Museum for example, which is where some of the references originated from. There may be one or two that are iffy, but I think that the vast majority are highly relevant.

For the moment, I have reverted your edits and look forward to your response. --Terry C (talk) 17:33, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Apologies -- I reverted back before I saw this message. Perhaps a dmoz link would be a compromise? Barret (talk) 17:36, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You're a bit quick for me :-) I've had to look carefully at what this dmoz template is for and I'm still not sure of the point of it.  Are you saying that it's OK to put external links in that format, but not in the more usual html format, where the visible text hides the link?  If so, I can do that, but probably not until this weekend as I'm quite busy this week. --Terry C (talk) 17:46, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Although the external links were likely added in good faith and probably not intended to promote a website or a product, it should be taken into consideration that links in the "External links" section should be kept to a minimum and Wikipedia is not repository of links. Ideally only "official websites" or links that provide unique information essential to the topic should be included -- afterall this is an encyclopaedia, not a place provide readers with a handy list of external links to various local organisations, churches and schools. Let me know if you still think any of the links should be restored but for now I'll add the dmoz template which is basically just a link to Corfe Mullen-related websites at the Open Directory Project and a useful way to reduce spam. Barret (talk) 22:34, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

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West Moors SC
Apologies I thought that adding a link to the social club web site would be interesting for new arrivals to the village. Especially as its part of the memorial hall and run as a charity for the benefits of its members (people of the village, with elected committe and trustees.. But obviously its spam. That's the problem with these wiki sites. Full of one sided rubbish. Maybe you should get your jack boots down and take a look if you ever visit west moors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.202.89 (talk) 18:27, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately it didn't comply with Wikipedia's guidelines for external links (see External links). Although a link to the local social club might be interesting for new arrivals to the village it is of little encyclopaedic value. --Barret (talk) 15:01, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for your message of welcome and the useful links. I hope I have put this message in the right place! --Ykraps (talk) 17:39, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome :) Barret (talk) 17:11, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks once again for the links but I am unable to find anything about inserting a photograph into an article. I have made a minor contribution to the article on Christchurch (Dorset) which, I notice, you have also contributed to. I now wish to insert photographs of the Constable's House and another of the castle keep which I think gives a better idea of the motte on which it sits. I would be grateful for any help or links you can give me but please bear in mind that not only am I new to Wiki, I am also new(ish) to computers. --Ykraps (talk) 10:25, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you wish to use an image which is already available on Wikipedia or is it your own work or an image from the web? To insert an image which has already been uploaded use the following text: Example.jpg The "thumb" parameter automatically places the image on the right, but if you would like to place the image on the left just add "left", for example: ChristchurchPriory.jpg . Once you have added the image to the article use the preview button before you save to check you are happy with its position. Further help can be found at Images and Picture tutorial. If you have any more questions or need help with uploading an image let me know. Barret (talk) 12:52, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I have managed to upload 2 photographs (my own work) to the English Wikipedia using 'Special Upload' (after some faffing about). I have even managed to insert them onto my user page but they are massive and I have not worked out how to resize them yet. I will do a bit more experimenting but may get back to you, if that is okay? Thanks once again.--Ykraps (talk) 22:28, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Discussion moved to User talk:Ykraps. --Barret (talk) 16:49, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Manufacturing and Industry in Christchurch, Dorset.
Hello Barret, I am currently working on something that I hoped to add to the Christchurch page. I know you have an interest in this and thought you might like to visit my user page and give me some feedback. You'll find the article at the bottom of my page.--Ykraps (talk) 15:59, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Nice work so far and an interesting read. Apart from the lack of references which can be added in the future, my only major concern is where to fit it into the article. I've found that most Wikipedia articles about UK settlements roughly follow this suggested guideline for the layout. Take a look at some of the featured and good settlement articles at WikiProject UK for some examples. Although it could be added to the article just as it is, I would work what you've written into the history section and perhaps split off some of the content about the more recent industry into a separate economy section. Alternatively, if you plan to continue adding more content and references it might be long enough for an article of its own. Other suggestions: I would remove "Residents of that time will recall with mixed emotions" which seems too informal, and although the images are connected to the items mentioned in the text I think it would be better to have images taken in Christchurch -- are there any images available of the buildings you have mentioned? Geograph.co.uk might be a good place to look. Barret (talk) 17:47, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your constructive reply. I have checked out the article 'UK Settlements' and there appears to be an option of a 'Industry and Commerce' sub-heading (see 2.1). However as my work is a history of industry, I think it might be better if I split it up as you suggest. There is quite a bit more to add but rather than have it as an article in its own right, I thought it might be better to add it to the existing article. Eventually I would like to see the article upgraded.

I have not yet referenced the work as a considerable ammount comes from my own local knowledge. I am confident however that I can supply citations after a few hours in the local library. Can I list a museum as a source?

With regards to the images: The Sea Vixen (XP924) was photographed at Hurn Airport where it resides and I will make that clear in the text. Ideally I would of preferred XJ580 which stood for years at the entrance to the Airfield Ind. Est. but could not find a photo that wasn't copyright, see http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/airshows99/jetheritage/jetheritage.htm. There are pictures of it at its new home, RAF Tangmere, but I didn't think that was suitable either. Photos of existing buildings will be simple enough as I can take them myself (thanks for helping me to understand how this is done) but things that no longer exist are obviously a bit more problematic. Thanks for the link to Geograph UK by the way, I found some great pictures of the old trolley bus at the Christchurch terminal, I think they should go in somewhere.

Of course that sentence should go! What was I thinking? Sometimes things just come out as I'm typing.

I will do a bit more work on it and hopefully you will take another look. I will keep you informed of how I'm getting on.--Ykraps (talk) 15:31, 19 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry about the late reply... I'm not too sure about using a museum as a source because there might be some verifiabilty and reliabilty issues. You might be better off asking at Reliable sources/Noticeboard. And if you need help uploading any Geograph images just let me know. Barret (talk) 14:35, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Image Problem
Hello again. I have a slight problem with an image I uploaded and hope you might be able to help. I took the photograph with the camera on its side and uploaded the image to wikicommons as it was. I now find that I am unable to rotate the image 90 degrees. Is there a way of doing this? I have read the section on using images but it sounds like I need to edit it using my own software (microsoft photo editor) and then upload it again. Is that right? Regards --Ykraps (talk) 10:48, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes you'll need to rotate the image yourself before uploading. You'll can do this with most image viewers and editors. I don't have Microsoft Photo Editor but I guess the when you open the image the option to rotate is in the 'image' tab at the top. After you've saved it, go to the file's page (?) in the Commons and click on "Upload a new version of this file" which is in the file history section. Browse for the rotated image you just saved on your computer, leave the destination filename as it is, add a brief summary of the change you have made in the file changes box, check the ignore any warnings box and upload the new file. Barret (talk) 17:26, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks to your clear instructions, I have managed to overwrite the image.--Ykraps (talk) 06:49, 25 May 2010 (UTC)