User talk:Barrierstobenefit

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Edit under your real user ID or else buzz off. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:53, 5 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Are you serious? If I did simply buzz off every time someone like you told me to 'use my main account', you'd have never found out about the sock Werieth at all, because I sure as hell would NEVER expose any account I had with a good reputation to the likes of Future in the context of accusing one of his mates of being a sock. That's just not someone with any sense does. If you persist in removing my posts, you'll also never see any action taken against the other admins who enabled his illegitimate return to be much longer than it needed to be, and you'll never see anyone ask those "lazy" checkusers just why they helped, when their primary role is supposedly to be detecting socks just like Werieth. The only reason the Wikipediocracy link you found exists is precisely because of those admins/checkusers, and people like you, who thought they were helping Wikipedia by telling me to "buzz off". So thank you kindly for your advice, but with all due respect, I'll continue help Wikipedia the way I see fit, and I'll not be stopped in that endeavour by anyone. Barrierstobenefit (talk) 21:00, 5 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'm serious. By socking, you're every bit as bad as Betacommand/Werieth. Be a stand-up guy or else keep your trap shut. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:08, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not. It's sad you can't see that. I will repeat, as you don't seem to get it. The only reason Wereith was found, was because of my socking. As such, my infraction is minor, compared to his massive violation - despite the multiple bans, both arbcom and community, and all the other disruption, he returned as a sock, and has managed to perform several thousand (hundreds of thousands maybe?) of edits as such. If it wasn't for people like you, and the admins and functionaries (whose names you are trying to hide from the community with these reverts), who seem to have absolutely no capacity for common sense or the common good, that could have been kept to a couple of thousand. No wonder Werieth thought he would chance his arm at a return - he obviously knew what you can achieve if you simply defeat CU and have a few admin mates. With this bizarre attitude that all socks are ebil, the rest of the community pretty much ensures such an attempt has a good chance of success. I don't mind admitting I considered dropping this a couple if times, not because of scumbags like Future, but because of people like you, but I thought better of it. In the spirit of IAR, I'll always try to help Wikipedia in the task of exposing serious violators of the SOCK policy. You can help me or hinder me, but the fact is, as this case shows, you'll never stop me. Barrierstobenefit (talk) 21:21, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll say to you what I say to any other sock: There are many of us, and only one of you. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:25, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I know. The Matrix would have been a shit film indeed if there were billions of Neos and only one gullible meatsack being used as a human battery. /pwnd Barrierstobenefit (talk) 21:39, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I saw The Matrix. I was not impressed. It had some cute special effects, but otherwise it was totally derivative - no new ideas. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:08, 5 July 2014 (UTC)


 * You reported me to AIV? Hilarious. That's one of the dick moves Werieth pulled too. Although he only did it as he knew reporting me to SPI would have probably brought him to much attention - at that stage he was still trying to keep the whole thing quiet, as it obviously benefited him. Not that he need have worried - every admin that ever responded to him, either at SPI or AIV, took the exact same view of my socking as as you espouse here (although obviously some were motivated by more than just incompetence). As such, it's likely your report to AIV is only going to ensure their names don't get picked up and the systems/attitudes/culture that cause this obviously counter-productive reaction don't get fixed - meaning that Werieth might as well try his arm at another return later. It speaks volumes that you'd think reverting me was remotely a good thing, even though in that very same ANI there's an arb explaining how he could have probably picked up on this whole thing much earlier if it wasn't for just that sort of mindless cycle of reversion and blocking of obvious socks, on the basis all socking is ebil. It's beyond idiotic. Barrierstobenefit (talk) 21:57, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes. You were in violation of the rules and you needed to be blocked. Be a stand-up guy and you might win back some respect. As of now, you have none. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:06, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh noes. How will I ever recover from you not giving me any respect. Perhaps I'll reflect on the fact that a) you're a total moron who wouldn't know a true benefit to Wikipedia if it hit you in the face, and b) most, if not all, of what you know about me has been filtered through the grubby hands of Future Perfect, et al. They control what version of the truth you see here. The sad fact is, you don't have a fucking clue about what I've been doing. According to Future, I've been accusing Werieth of being a sock, without evidence. Which in his book is trolling/harassment. That's his version. Back in the real world - see all that evidence on Wikipediocracy - I've been trying to post that here from day one, because I came up with it. The reason why you can't see it anywhere here, is because corrupt bastards like Future know that for every Wikipedian who has a clue, there's plenty who are as retarded as you, and will believe him when he says it never existed, and that I'm a troll. I can't spell it out any more clearer than this - he never wanted Betacommand banned, he never wanted Werieth exposed. Just do the fucking math, or forever be his loyal subject, whose only true freedom is to lick his (jack) boots for the iron in the dirt. Seriously, if you're goal is to persuade me to not lift a finger when I figure out what Beta's next account name is, you're the one doing a 'stand up' job. Barrierstobenefit (talk) 22:35, 5 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Barrierstobenefit, I guess you know it already but in case you revert anyone again on WP:ANI in the next 20 or so hours, you'll be blocked for edit warring and disruptive editing. De728631 (talk) 21:14, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Tut tut Future Perfect at Sunrise. By my count, this is something like the 5th time you have personally removed from Wikipedia direct evidence of your own conflict of interest when it comes to Wereith/Betacommand, the person who you never wanted blocked, and the person who you did your upmost to prevent being unmasked as a sock, until it was inevitable. You're clearly still butthurt over this failure to prevent his (re-)blocking, otherwise you wouldn't still be trying to propagate the lie in edit summaries like these  and your block log message, that I was somehow harassing Werieth. As the record now shows, all I ever did, was accuse Werieth of being a sock, and link to the evidence that showed it. Making accusations of sock-puppetry backed up with evidence is neither harassment or trolling, especially now that it has been shown to be true. Your past removals of that evidence, to try and make it look like I was a 'harassment troll', is now a matter of record. Blocking this account won't help you hide it any more than Werieth's calls for your assistance helped him. Barrierstobenefit (talk) 22:21, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

@ - do not listen to the lies of Future Perfect. Does this look like someone who had "no particular involvement" in defending Betacommand? Does someone with hundreds of admin actions in WP:NFCC areas sound like someone who had no idea how Betacommand/Werieth edited? Post your concerns about these obvious lies of omission at that ANI thread, and if you don't get any answers, complain to arbcom - they have final authority over admins who so clearly abuse their positions to protect their friends, or indeed themselves. His high and mighty attitude to so called troll socks has only one real goal - it helps him justify his naked attempts to control what people find out about him. Some people call that a conflict of interest, some people would describe such admin actions as a violation of WP:INVOLVED. He doesn't, of course. Barrierstobenefit (talk) 23:14, 5 July 2014 (UTC)