User talk:Barrister568

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October 2011
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J-P E. Mattila case
Hello, and thanks for your contributions. Please present your views on the article deletion page, so that they can be taken into consideration by others as well.

On a personal note, although you have many valid points and probably very valuable insight regarding this case, I have to disagree with this: "Mattila has been under politically motivated attacks by his government for almost two decades, it seems that they have decided to start feeding libelous information about him via Wikipedia. "

As a Finn, I can guarantee that you don't need to recruit citizens or government officials to defame against the convicted early-1990s depression era white-collar criminals – they are very truly and deeply hated by many ordinary Finns, and the Finnish tabloids love to pour fuel on this fire. The realities of the banking crisis were extremely harsh for many ordinary middle-class families and the society as a whole, and the wounds run deep. I don't think User:Tutkinnanjohtaja is necessarily a government official as has been suggested, but probably just a disgruntled citizen.

The legal cases against the alleged culprits are very complicated. Suomen Kuvalehti (Finland Illustrated), a respected Finnish journalist publication, has written an article on Mr. Mattila's cases (as of February 2011 "a dozen cases" are still ongoing.) According to ECHR 77138/01, in the first case Mr. Mattila has been found guilty of two tax offences and two accounting irregularities, and the Appeals Court upheld the District Court's conviction, and also found him guilty of 17 of the earlier rejected charges, which is a bit extraordinary but nothing unique (the Appeals Court can and does change 'guilty' verdicts from the District Court sometimes. Recently, for example, the Appeals Court overturned a 'guilty' verdict from the District Court in a high-profile murder case without any new evidence.)

I am very interested in seeing independent research of political manipulation in these court cases and hearing more about the process in the Finnish system. Obviously, the political atmosphere surrounding these cases is more than optimal for all sorts of foul play. Sadly I couldn't find any original Finnish court documents from the online database. However, in you wrote "United Nations issued a Human rights report about the court cases in Finland during the 1990s, and stated that it was not possible to obtain a fair trial in these politically charged processes." I would be very interested in seeing this report. (Amnesty International 2010 annual report on Finland raises no such judicial issues.) --hydrox (talk) 07:54, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry case
Your name has been mentioned in connection with a sockpuppetry case. Please refer to Sockpuppet investigations/Barrister568 for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to cases before editing the evidence page. --hydrox (talk) 22:52, 1 November 2011 (UTC)