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March 2008
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 * Just to clarify the matter, for anyone reading my discussion page – this edit was in fact a reversion of an edit which removed the entire content of the relevant article. I did not bother to lodge a false positive report, as the page (as have the other Chinese imperial family trees) has since altered significantly (the formatting on the current set of pages is just about entirely my doing). Just thought I'd clear that one up. BartBassist (talk) 00:31, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Stephen Hendry
And re: William Wallace: the Wallace monument was built in honour of Mel Gibson in Braveheart, right?  - Dudesleeper / Talk  00:11, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Scottish monarchs' family tree
There are more inaccuracies in it than that! I don't that you should have restored it ... inaccurate information is inaccurate information, in an image or not ... but there you go, I'm not gonna revert you. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk ) 11:43, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

$100 bill
I recently read your comment on the $100 bill reverse side image page. I just want to tell you that that's how the image is on the bill. The painter who painted the picture made a mistake and painted "4" as "IV" instead of how it appears on Independence Hall ("IIII"). So the picture is real. Armyrifle (talk) 20:36, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

RfD nomination of a template redirect
I have nominated a redirect to a template for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you.  MBisanz  talk 15:28, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Worcestershire squad
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Prof Dame Hazel Genn
This article is about UCL's Professor of Socio-Legal Studies (UCL profile here), and it needs a (free license) photograph and a short bibliography that summarises her most important publications. As you're currently studying in the Law Faculty, would you like to help with either of these? Thanks in advance - Pointillist (talk) 10:08, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

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 * You said you were busy with your mid-term assignments so I have fixed up the copyright for you! Thanks for agreeing to help on the Hazel Genn article when you are less busy.  - Pointillist (talk) 10:56, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

RGS Worcester and The Alice Ottley School
RE to do list: Talk:RGS Worcester and The Alice Ottley School- an article you  have been involved with. As a local person, I have just read the entire articlewith  great interest. It has obviously  been prepared with  great  care, and I hesitate to tag it;  however, I feel it  still reads partly like an essay and that some passages contain subjective wording that  may  conflict  with  Wikipedia's MOS.--Kudpung (talk) 02:20, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for this. Actually, I am astonished that my contributions to the RGS page have been noted: I was a King's man myself, and have contributed far more to that page than to the RGS one. But glad to see that someone is noting my small efforts! BartBassist (talk) 23:30, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

King's School
Hi Bart! I nearly became a King's pupil in 1960, but I  had to  be content  with  playing  rugger agaist  them  for one of the 'others' I was the one responsible for adding many of the recent tags on  King's School. I have no objection to them  being removed as long as they  have served their purpose in  drawing attention  to areas that might need some attention. I have a particular interest in  schools in  Worcestershire but  apart from  copyediting, I don't have the resources to  fill  in  any  gaps. I do read articles thoroughly before tagging, hence the inline passives that have no citations. I did leave a message about this on the article's talk  page. Jenuk and I collaborate closely on the Worcestershire Project (although we share our differences of opinion !)--Kudpung (talk) 13:04, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Kotromanić family tree
Hello, BartBassist! I am trying to create a family tree of a medieval royal family of Bosnia. However, I can't figure out how to use Template:Family tree! I've been trying for months and I've asked many users I "know", but they they don't have a clue about using it either. I found a large family tree made by you and I was amazed (if only because I can't make family tree for a nuclear family :)). Would you please create the Kotromanić family tree for me? It would be very useful as it would help users understand Sigismund of Luxembourg's claim to the throne of Bosnia, as well as Hermann II of Cilli's claim to the throne of Bosnia. The tree is not too long - only six generations - and it is not nearly as complicated as Kings of the Hellenes family tree. I would be very grateful!

Here is a link to a picture of the family tree I made using Paint (even a picture made by me using Paint sucks): http://img269.imageshack.us/i/48286722.png/'>

Thanks in advance! Surtsicna (talk) 16:59, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * WoW! That's much better than I imagined! Sincere thanks! Could you just add Prince Sigismund and Princess Catherine, the two younger children of King Stephen Thomas? They are important because they were proclaimed heirs to the kingdom by their mother's will. You don't have to add their mother. Jadwiga should be removed, as she wasn't relevant to the succession to the throne of Bosnia and removing her would create space for Ostoja and Tvrtko II. That shouldn't be a problem, given how complex family tree you've already made. I am going to add the family tree to the House of Kotromanić article and Kotromanići. Surtsicna (talk) 15:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

An early draft of the family tree (kept for the records). BartBassist (talk) 10:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC):


 * Jadwiga surely is important, but not for the House of Kotromanić. Mary is more important for the Kotromanić dynasty because Tvrtko and Dabiša were her vassals and her husband claimed the Bosnian crown in her right. Charles IV is indeed irrelevant and unnecessary. Adding queens consort would be better than adding Charles IV and Margaret, though it isn't so easy - Tvrtko I had no children with his queen but did have two illegitimate children (though some sources assign Tvrtko II to his wife), Tvrtko I's son Ostoja had three wives and a son with the second wife as well as two illegitimate sons. Ostoja's son had two wives and children with both. Is it possible to create such family tree? Don't bother making it if it would be too complex. Anyway, I prefer Cilli because it is used more often in English. Surtsicna (talk) 21:10, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I forgot to ask: where do you get information about the dates of birth and death of the members of this family? Surtsicna (talk) 21:21, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * You amaze me every time! The tree is so wonderfully simple, yet descriptive and inclusive! I am going to put it into the House of Kotromanić article right away! Surtsicna (talk) 12:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


 * What old version? The article now uses the latest version. Surtsicna (talk) 13:41, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Unfortunatly, the sources you use seem to be self-published and as such they are not reliable. Neither Bosnian-language books nor English-language books give years of birth and death of people such as Elizabeth of Serbia, Elizabeth of Kuyavia, Catherine of Bosnia, etc. That's why I think it is better to remove the dates, unless reliable sources can back them up. Surtsicna (talk) 14:33, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The only reason for keeping the marriage to Louis I of Hungary is that I didn't see it :) I'll remove it because we shouldn't fill the boxes with too much information. After all, we would have to add three wives to Ostoja's box! Surtsicna (talk) 15:26, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Barty
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Alex —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.14.159 (talk) 12:37, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Jordanian Royal Family
If you are bored and looking for a family tree to build, you could build a family tree of the Jordanian Royal Family. It would be useful for the Line of succession to the Jordanian throne. If you decide to do it, don't include wives of kings and princes - as King Hussein alone had four wives, it would be very difficult. Also, you don't have to include any princess, as princesses are not relevant for the article and the royal family is too large to include each member. So, male members only would be the easiest and tidiest way. Bye! Surtsicna (talk) 16:37, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Can you speak Chinese?
What dose the "div." mean in Chinese emperors family tree (late)? 星光下的人 (talk) 07:52, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * OH,no,Division (military) is a military unit,it means “师”,but 郡 is a administrative machinery unit,they are not the same meaning. 星光下的人 (talk) 01:04, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * First,about Commandery,you can see Qing Dynasty nobility,this page use "prince of a commandery " to translate “郡王”，this is the reason which I use it.And Commandry (feudalism) corresponding Chinese page is also “郡”. I agree this word is so long, "Comm." maybe better.

Second,about Guangxu's adoption,it is truely.In China,adoption called "过继",it can happen after sb is death,and "过继“ only can happen in Firts generation and Second generation.Guangxu Emperor and Tongzhi Emperor is the same generation ,we call "堂兄弟”(first cousin),they can not adopted. In Draft History of Qing(清史稿），it says "he(Guangxu) is adopted to Wenzong(Xianfeng),to succeed the throne,become next emperor"(以上继文宗为子，入承大统，为嗣皇帝). 星光下的人 (talk) 00:51, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

About Chinese emperors family tree (early)
I think [This edition] is better than your change.The same generation in same line is more important than son-sequence,and Why not Western Han and Eastern Han in one tree?星光下的人 (talk) 01:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you draw the branch in sequence when you build the family tree?It's hard to me.  = =|||  星光下的人 (talk) 11:59, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * How to add Liu Penzi in Chinese emperors family tree (early),he is also a emperor,although a puppet.His line is Gaozu——Prince Daohui of Qi(齐悼惠王刘肥）——Prince Jing of Chengyang （城阳景王刘章）——Liu Xi（城阳恭王刘喜）——Liu Yan（城阳顷王刘延）——Liu Yi（城阳敬王刘义）——Prince Hui of Chengyang（城阳惠王刘武）——Liu Shun（城阳荒王刘顺）——Marquess of Shi式侯 Liu xian(刘宪）——Marquess of Shi式侯 Liu Ba(刘霸）（no son)

Marquess of Shi式侯 Liu xian(刘宪）——Marquess of Shi式侯 Liu Meng(刘萌）——Liu Penzi 刘盆子 星光下的人 (talk) 01:46, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * son-sequence of yuan is wrong,please see Family tree of Genghis Khan 星光下的人 (talk) 02:07, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
 * How do you recognize the Emperor and Dynasty? Why Dose other kingdoms 's monarchs are not emperors?Dose Chinese emperors family tree (ancient) all are emperors? 星光下的人 (talk) 03:05, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

List of Australian PMs - new format
Hi BartBassit, most of this table looks good so far (reading discussion at Talk:List of Prime Ministers of Australia), would you like me to finnish it as you seemed to have stopped or how long until you will have it finished? Regards Wikistar (Place order here) 13:20, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Shadow Cabinet
†died in office ‡served as interim leader
 * Piece of trivia which becomes apparent from this list:
 * Q: There is said to be "something of the night" about Michael Howard, but in what respect could he be considered Jim Callaghan's shadow?
 * A: Callaghan was the only man to have served in all four Great Offices of State. Howard is the only man to have served in all four shadow offices.

Aside from this, people have an interesting tendency to shift from right to left on this table (most notably Howard) as their careers progress.

Comments
I'm not sure it's possible to allocate full Shadow positions before 1955. As I understand it the concept of a fully defined "shadow government" with individuals holding defined portfolios was pretty much introduced in 1955 and before then there was a grouping of leading MPs from the party (sometimes with a clearly defined membership, sometimes less so) who spoke for the Opposition in debates but didn't have strict portfolios and could potentially speak on any subject (although some specialisation might develop if they'd held particular portfolios in government). My memory of the various Butler biographies is that his appointment as Chancellor in 1951 surprised many who had expected Oliver Lyttleton - this wouldn't have been the case if he'd been the recognised "Shadow Chancellor".

The table is also assigning some start dates to the day of the election, which creates some anomalies, especially when a member lost their seat. Usually it takes a bit of time for the post election front bench to be finalised, especially if the party leader announces their resignation immediately after the election. In 2005 it's my recollection that Howard didn't appoint his new Shadow Cabinet until about a week after polling day. Timrollpickering (talk) 18:33, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I've moved the table from Official Opposition Shadow Cabinet to its own article, List of Shadow holders of Great Offices of State. Since many of those listed as deputies never held the title "Deputy Leader of the Opposition", including William Hague and Harriet Harman, I've removed that column, which has the added benefit of making the rest of the table easier to read. -Rrius (talk) 03:39, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Ainsworth pic
Thanks Bart, for the, that pic has been a long time coming, good work. Off2riorob (talk) 20:35, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Family tree of Roman/Greek gods
Hello! Remember when you made some family trees for me? Well, you've done a great job and, since you clearly enjoy creating family trees, I wanted to propose making a family tree of Roman/Greek gods. I believe you'll really have fun doing it, as the family relationships are very complex (gods marrying their sisters, goddesses marrying their great-nephews, goddesses born of brother-sister marriages marrying their uncles, etc). I don't need it; it's just for your entertaintment, though it would be very useful for Wikipedia as well. If you do create one, please let me know! Surtsicna (talk) 22:44, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
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List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom
I think in general that colour pictures are better than soemthing black and white. I cropped some of the clunkier images into headshots. Hopefully this helps resolve some of your objection. Adam sk (talk) 05:13, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

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Names of Greek Prime Ministers
Please stop adding your personal observations about the names of the Greek Prime Ministers. Personal observations are by definition original research. The Greek Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Please check the policies of WP:OR, WP:RS and WP:V. Also WP:3RR. Thank you. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 01:22, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. I have replied on my talk. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 15:38, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Please go right ahead. Take care. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 16:15, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

List of heads of state of Mexico
I believe that there's no any inefficiency to edit a considerable improvement on the current formatting of the section. --Helfmann (talk) 06:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

List of Chancellors of Germany
Well, I think that political leanings of early Chancellors should be marked with partisan colors, although they weren't members of any party. They had very strong political leanings (especially Bismarck), and they should me marked with appropriate colors. Next, I removed partisan color from the last part of the table because there is already meta/colors (like Christian Democratic Union (Germany)/meta/color, for example) to mark that part of the table. --Sundostund (talk) 10:50, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with you to reintroduce the coloring of the Diet column. It's really useful to to show who controlled the Bundestag at a particular period. Also, you are free to modify colors for "Liberal Conservative" political faction and the Nazi Party in order to reduce similarity between them. --Sundostund (talk) 16:11, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

FL at risk (List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom)
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 * I see you added a cc-by-sa-2.5 licence to the image but I don't see any evidence from the source provided that this licence is proper to the image. Where do you see that this is the correct copyright licence for the image? ww2censor (talk) 06:55, 7 March 2011 (UTC)


 * The image refers to hu:Fájl:FOTO DE BROQUEVILLE.JPG, where the proprietor of ars-moriendi.be licenses all the content of that webpage with a cc-by-2.5. BartBassist (talk) 07:00, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Baron Latimer
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Watchlist
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Chief ministers
Hi - Looking at your page, a few questions. First, should the Cabal be listed? The most important thing about that period is that there really wasn't a single chief minister. Arlington was probably the closest, as he was basically running foreign affairs, but none of them was dominant in domestic affairs. Second, I think that a lot of the men you list were not really the chief minister - specifically Godolphin 1684-1685, Belasyse, Montagu 1694-1699, Pembroke 1699-1702, Halifax 1714-1715, Carlisle, and Walpole 1715-1717. I don't think you'll find any reliable source that considers any of those men to have been the chief minister at those times. I think the indisputable cases of single chief ministers before 1730 (I don't think Walpole really qualifies even in the 1720s, given that Townshend was essentially his equal, and had full control of foreign policy) are Clarendon 1660-1667, Danby 1674-1679, Godolphin 1702-1710, and Harley 1710-1714. The rest are all arguable. I think that some consideration should be given to the people I listed in my original post. In the period after 1714, I think the situation is actually pretty clear, but doesn't fit a table all that well. From George I's arrival until 1716, Townshend was effectively the chief minister, even though he was being undermined for most of 1716 by Stanhope. Then, after a period of some confusion and uncertainty when there wasn't really a single leader, between early 1717 to early 1721, Stanhope and Sunderland were effectively joint leaders. Your 1718 switching point seems wrong to me. Yes, they exchanged offices that year, but the idea that Sunderland was serving under Stanhope from 1717 to 1718, and then Stanhope was serving under Sunderland from 1718 to 1721 can't really be defended.

On the whole, I think it would be good to both extend this list to earlier periods - people like Strafford, Buckingham, the Cecils, Northumberland, and Wolsey seem at least as deserving of listing as the later ones, and certainly more worthy of listing than someone like Belasyse or Carlisle, who weren't chief ministers any more than the Earl of Iddesleigh and William Henry Smith were prime ministers. I think there should also be much less of an effort to fill every gap. This was an unofficial post, and there were gaps. There's a useful list in a 1923 book by Viscount Mersey, who was an early 20th century politician and judge. He gives us, in the period in question, only Clarendon, Danby/Carmarthen twice (in 1673-1678 and again 1692-1695), Godolphin from 1702-1710, and Harley. For anyone beyond that, we should find sources. john k (talk) 00:31, 5 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the comments. Personally, I like the entry for the Cabal, as it clarifies your point that no single individual was in charge. I agree that some of my entries, such as Belasyse, are dodgy: I followed the pre-existing templated list of ministries at the bottom of my page, which includes all of the ministries which I have listed. The situation is clear, but difficult to tabulate, from 1714 onwards. The problem with listing Townshend as chief minister is that he seems to have been an eminence grise, acknowledged as leader without formally holding office as leader, like Lord Carteret in Wilmington's ministry. I have listed Halifax, Carlisle and Walpole in this period in the Wilmington role (or, for a clearer example, in the Portland role in the Fox-North administration). I agree that Stanhope and Sunderland led jointly 1717–1721; I hope that the names of their ministries, and my explanation of this period in the introduction, makes this clear.


 * One of my arguments is that the post of "Prime Minister" gradually evolved from the Lord High Treasurer / First Lord of the Treasury post. Most of the people listed (though not all) were Lord High Treasurer or First Lord; with some exceptions, it seems to have been accepted that the Lord High Treasurer or First Lord had a significant claim to be in charge since Danby in 1674. Temple in 1679 is an odd entry, and doesn't really fit the run, but I found this early attempt at political reform extremely interesting, so I included it.


 * Finally, I lack the expertise to extend my own list further back than 1660, though I agree that this is desirable. BartBassist (talk) 07:54, 5 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Looking at your list, the only individuals I have missed (apart from Townshend, discussed above) are Sunderland 1684 and Shrewsbury 1695. I couldn't really find any rationale behind either of them. BartBassist (talk) 08:29, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm...do you have any sources that back up the idea that Carlisle, say, was viewed as the nominal head of the administration? I've just never seen anything that says anything like that, although I admit I'm not expert in the period.  As far as Sunderland and Shrewsbury go, I believe I was basing that on their Oxford Dictionary of National Biography articles, but I no longer have access to the ODNB, so I can't say for sure.  My sense, though, is that when Rochester was "kicked upstairs" in 1684, it was Sunderland, rather than Godolphin, who took effective charge of the ministry, and also that Sunderland was the effective chief minister for most of the reign of James II - certainly so after Rochester's resignation.  Although he was arguably an eminence grise type, I'm not sure it's reasonable to distinguish a "formal" ministry head from an informal one at that point.  The whole position was informal.  As for Shrewsbury, that's a bit more questionable, but my sense was that Shrewsbury was more of a figurehead for the ministry than Montagu, in that he was the one who dealt with the king personally, and essentially served as the intermediary between the king and the Junto proper.  That may not be quite right, but I think it's at least as right as the idea that Montagu was head of the ministry.  But I guess finding sources is what we should really be doing at this point. john k (talk) 20:30, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Let me add that I don't really think that First Lords of the Treasury (as opposed to Lord High Treasurers) were considered presumptive chief ministers until Walpole. Godolphin and Harley certainly were considered to be chief minister during their times as Lord Treasurer.  But Poulett, who served as First Lord of the Treasury from 1710 to 1711, certainly was not.  Neither was Godolphin during any of his stints as head of a treasury commission.  john k (talk) 20:56, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Japanese prime minister list
About http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:WhisperToMe&diff=cur

While I understand what was going on before, it feels strange to have a single page go against the MOS which is supposed to globally apply to all articles on EN. The usage of having "old" names be FN-GN and "new" ones be GN-FN happens in many places. The only reason why the prime minister list is so different is because, as you said, some of those figures are only a few years apart

Perhaps the solution is to say "People born after Meiji 1 have their family name last, people born before then have the family name first" - All of the figures have their dates of birth included, so people can tell via the birth year. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:13, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * While if I had to choose having them all in the same order, I would prefer them all to be GN-FN (after all the practice of name switching started in Meiji) - It may be a good idea to mention this on the MOS-JA talk page to see what others think too WhisperToMe (talk) 18:31, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much :) WhisperToMe (talk) 01:53, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

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Talk:Chinese emperors family tree (middle)
See my proposal at Talk:Chinese emperors family tree (middle) to include distant (and prominent) ancestors of Tang emperors.Sonny Fin (talk) 02:11, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion about List of German president
Try to remodel it somehow to completely remove from the article List of acting heads of state section. I think its quite unnecessary now, when all officeholders (regular and acting) are part of their main lists. Also, put the pictures of acting officeholders to their place at main lists. Cheers! --Sundostund (talk) 15:24, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I just remodeled it myself, I hope you'll like it. It took quite a time to make it as it is now, I must say. --Sundostund (talk) 22:01, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

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I have completed the full family tree for the tang dynasty emperors, including all their ancestors dating back to Laozi (actually there are a few cadet branches I'd like to add like Li Bai's branch, but he is not a direct ancestor so that can wait). The problem is that the lines on the tree are skewed slightly to the left and therefore straight lines like the one from gaozu to taizong do not align properly, can you fix it? Talk:Chinese_emperors_family_tree_(middle) Mr reems 45kg (talk) 07:28, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Blimey, good effort. As far as I can see, the only way to fix this one is to cut the family tree in half (immediately above Gaozu). I'll have a go. BartBassist (talk) 02:18, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

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List of Presidents of the United States
Bart, in looking through the talk archives I see you made a list which included an overview of each president (and was promptly reverted a day later - without much explanation). I strongly prefer your layout, and wondered if you ever thought of trying it again? Hoof Hearted (talk) 17:17, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

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